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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 07:36:45 PM

Title: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 07:36:45 PM
1 regional final down, 3 to go.



Post Edited (03-29-03 19:56)
Title: Re: BU vs. Minnesota
Post by: Chris 02 on March 29, 2003, 07:41:35 PM
I think you ought to retitle the subject of this thread.....
Title: Re: BU vs. Minnesota
Post by: the abbott fan on March 29, 2003, 07:46:50 PM
this game is also on tv, right? the one against new hampshire? :-D



Post Edited (03-29-03 19:48)
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 07:58:41 PM
Waddya want from me, it's the sixth game of the day... ;-)

5th meeting of these teams this season.  No idea whom to root for.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: the abbott fan on March 29, 2003, 08:02:16 PM
I'm rooting for BU...they're a little bit weaker...
the abbott fan

Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 08:06:24 PM
i am still debating whose broadcast should i tune in, bu's or unh's?:-}
Title: Re: BU vs. UHN
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 29, 2003, 08:10:07 PM
I'm rooting for BU because I'd like to set up a potential Cornell-BU matchup in Buffalo.

Also, it's sort of become a habit this season; I feel like they're an honorary ECAC team.

[edited to correct the spelling of UHN]



Post Edited (03-29-03 22:17)
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 08:25:24 PM
Well, you know BC turned down membership in the Ivy League, right...? ;-)
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 08:30:40 PM
A little too much time to root for an overtime game, but DQs still work. :-D
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 08:32:53 PM
UNH scores on pp, 1-0.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: the abbott fan on March 29, 2003, 08:48:11 PM
there's an abbott on unh!!!!!!! ::wow::
-the abbott fan:-D

Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 09:33:24 PM
still 1-0 unh.
bu just killed a 5-3 pp.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: the abbott fan on March 29, 2003, 09:37:51 PM
....and abbott's real name is the same as chris's real name!! ooh thats hot!!!!!!!!!!! ::crazy::
-the abbott fan

Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Keith K \'93 on March 29, 2003, 09:58:37 PM
"Good Chris Abbott!  Bad Chris Abbott!  Good Chris Abbott!  Bad Chris Abbott!..."
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: the abbott fan on March 29, 2003, 10:01:44 PM
yeah...i like it...only it would be "James Abbott" cuz....well chris's real first name is james (aahh secrets out...)
-the abbott fan

Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 10:11:41 PM
UNH up 2-0.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 10:28:26 PM
2:38 left... BU empty net
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 10:29:48 PM
1.26 to go...
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 10:32:16 PM
ENG unh. 3-0 now.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: min \'97 on March 29, 2003, 10:35:52 PM
its 3-0 unh final.
a different wildcat (not arizona or kentucky) advances...
Title: Chris?
Post by: Keith K \'93 on March 29, 2003, 10:36:26 PM
Fine. Be that way.  "Good Abbott!  Good Abbott!  Bad Abbott! Good Abbott!  Good Abbott!  Bad Abbott!"
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: ZooeyDog on March 29, 2003, 10:38:48 PM
Anyone definitively know if the Frozen Four re-seeds? In other words (I'm not jinxing anyone! shut up!) were we to win tomorrow, do we definitely play UHN? Or if Michigan beats CC, do we play the Wolverines?

It seems fairest to re-seed, and let the top remaining seed play the bottom remaining seed, which means, of course, that that's not the way the NC$$ does it.

"Let's see...hmmm...how can we screw Cornell the *most*...?"


ZD
Title: Reseeding
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 29, 2003, 10:42:58 PM
There is definitely no re-seeding.  The winner of the Cornell-BC game will play UHN in one semifinal and the winner of the CC-Michigan game will play Minnesota in the other.



Post Edited (03-29-03 22:43)
Title: Re: Reseeding
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 29, 2003, 10:46:15 PM
BTW, AFAIK there has never been any reseeding in the NCAA hockey tournament.  Certainly not since they went to the regional format.

I'm amazed they're talking about re-seeding in the squeakball tourney; everyone filling out those damn brackets is a huge part of their hype.

Title: Re: Reseeding
Post by: ZooeyDog on March 29, 2003, 10:48:39 PM
Thanks John.

That is just so *&%$ing stupid, that I simply must believe it's true. My God, why doesn't the NC$$ just put a line in their by-laws that says: "Whenever a stronger impediment can be placed in the path of Cornell, the Rules Committee reserveth the right to do so."

Giving us the #10 team in the first round. Letting a #3 seed be a host team against Maine. Letting BC stay east and sending Maine west. Refusing to reward the highest seed at the Frozen Four. I'm not complaining about UHN; I'd relish the chance (should that chance come) to avenge last year's QF loss to the Wildcats. But really, why don't they just let monkeys run this tournament?

ZD
Title: Re: Reseeding
Post by: ZooeyDog on March 29, 2003, 10:50:17 PM
Agreed, in hoops it would be a disaster. But until filling out an office-pool Frozen Four bracket becomes en vogue, I'd strongly argue it's unfair for, say, Ferris St. and Michigan to play on one side, while we duke it out with UHN on the other. Won't come to pass, but still retarded.

ZD
Title: Re: Reseeding
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 29, 2003, 10:55:58 PM
Actually, by pairing us with BC they were trying to do us a favor.  The Eagles were #8 in the PWR, so that part they did bracket correctly: #1 vs #8 in the quarterfinals.

Also don't see how Michigan hosting Maine screws us.

And the bracketing rather than re-seeding has been done for years; it's not the committee's fault you didn't know about it. ;-)

Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: Greg Berge on March 29, 2003, 10:58:03 PM
If anything, the Michigan hosting could help us.  If a weaker Michigan team knocks a strong CC team off because they have the bogus home game, so be it.

Of course the host concept is a fraud and ridiculous, but in that specific case it can only help us.

If they were ever going to reseed the Frozen Four, they are *not* going to do so with an ECAC team as the #1.  But truth be told if they are ever going to do it they need to announce it before the season starts.  This midstream stuff is mickey mouse.
Title: Re: BU vs. UNH
Post by: dsr11 on March 30, 2003, 07:33:34 AM
http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/089/sports/Stopping_at_nothing+.shtml

BU has gone 194 miuntes 24 seconds without scoring a goal.
Title: Re: BU vs. UHN
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 30, 2003, 07:45:23 AM
QuoteDan '01 wrote:
BU has gone 194 miuntes 24 seconds without scoring a goal.
...against UHN.  They would have had a hard time beating Hahvahd without scoring a goal.



Post Edited (03-30-03 07:45)
Title: Re: Reseeding
Post by: ZooeyDog on March 30, 2003, 09:22:24 AM
Yes, I understand they were *trying* to do us a favor. Think it worked?

And you're right, of course, sending Maine west didn't hurt us...I mixed my metaphors. My larger point was the number of overall mistakes the committee made, in which we shared Whipping Boy status with the Bears. We all know there were *far* fairer brackets out there, waiting to be had, if the committee hadn't exhibited slavish devotion to the segments of their selection rules that are most likely to skew equity (e.g., Thou Shalt Not Schedule First Round Intraconference Matchups, Thou Shalt Not Allow "Host" Schools To Leave Their Own Arenas, Thou Shalt Not Corrupt The Holiest Of Holy "Seeding Bands" Which Are Based, Incidentally, On A Fundamentally Flawed RPI System).

As for whether the NC$$ is criticizable for not re-seeding teams at the Frozen Four: Is the criteria for allowable criticism the question of whether "It's Always Been Done That Way?" If so, why don't we go back to 12 teams in the NC$$ tournament (it's always been done that way), why don't we go back to helmetless players (it had always been done that way), and why don't we bring Army back into the ECAC (...)? Sorry to be snarky, but my ignorance of NC$$ Frozen Four policy (which, granted, is prodigious) doesn't change the fact that it's stupid and unfair not to re-seed.

"It's evolution, baby!"


ZD