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Title: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: Johnny 5 on February 11, 2017, 08:30:45 AM
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Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: upprdeck on February 11, 2017, 09:24:16 AM
great results for not playing last night..

in we sweep and union doesnt do more than tie we jump to first
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: andyw2100 on February 11, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: upprdeckgreat results for not playing last night..

in we sweep and union doesnt do more than tie we jump to first

What about Harvard and St. Lawrence? If Harvard wins tonight, even if we sweep we'd be two points behind them with a game in hand. But even if we win the game in hand, we'd be tied with Harvard in points, and they take the tie-break.

If St. Lawrence wins tonight and we sweep, we'd be a point behind them, with a game in hand.

As I see it, the only way we take first this weekend is if we sweep and:

--Harvard loses tonight and St. Lawrence ties or loses tonight and Union ties or loses tonight.

If all of the above happen we'd still be tied with one or more teams in points, but we'd have a game in hand over Harvard and St. Lawrence, and no game in hand, but the current tie-breaker against Union.

Edit: I just looked at the schedule, and realized that Harvard and St. Lawrence are not playing tonight. So almost everything I wrote above is wrong. What is correct is that the best we can do is catch Harvard in points. We'd be tied at 26 points, but since they beat us twice, they'd have the tiebreak.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: RichH on February 11, 2017, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: upprdeckgreat results for not playing last night..

in we sweep and union doesnt do more than tie we jump to first

What about Harvard and St. Lawrence? If Harvard wins tonight, even if we sweep we'd be two points behind them with a game in hand. But even if we win the game in hand, we'd be tied with Harvard in points, and they take the tie-break.

If St. Lawrence wins tonight and we sweep, we'd be a point behind them, with a game in hand.

As I see it, the only way we take first this weekend is if we sweep and:

--Harvard loses tonight and St. Lawrence ties or loses tonight and Union ties or loses tonight

If all of the above happen we'd still be tied with one or more teams in points, but we'd have a game in hand over Harvard and St. Lawrence, and no game in hand, but the current tie-breaker against Union.

Edit: I just looked at the schedule, and realized that Harvard and St. Lawrence are not playing tonight. So almost everything I wrote above is wrong. What is correct is that the best we can do is catch Harvard in points. We'd be tied at 26 points, but since they beat us twice, they'd have the tiebreak.

Sadly, Harvard can't lose tonight.

Harvard, SLU, QU, and RPI don't play tonight.

RPI-Harvard played their game in Dec. so the league can't be blamed for Harvard's Beanpot futility, despite the fact that bending the schedule to their whim hasn't had any impact over the past decade.

SLU-QU played their game in Northern Ireland over Thanksgiving as part of the "Friendship Four"

Edit: didn't see your edit.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: billhoward on February 11, 2017, 12:37:00 PM
TEAM           PTS   ECAC GAMES PLAYED AFTER FRIDAY 2/10
Harvard        26    18
Union          25    17
St Lawrence    25    18
Cornell        22    16
Quinnipiac     21    18
Clarkson       18    17


Cornell has 6 games to play and 12 possible points to win. Everyone else in the top 6 (next is Yale at 15 pts) has 5 or 4 games left. Be nice to finish better than 4th.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2017, 08:46:00 PM
Watched the CU goals on @Cornell_ILDN and holy shit do I hate the camera work. They always switch from the wide-angle to behind-the-net while the player is in the act of shooting so by the time your eyes have adjusted to the switch the puck is in the back of the net.

On the other hand, we're winning.

On the Tevye hand, Yale has 1;44 of PP to start the third down only one.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: marty on February 11, 2017, 09:02:04 PM
Quote from: ugarteWatched the CU goals on @Cornell_ILDN and holy shit do I hate the camera work. They always switch from the wide-angle to behind-the-net while the player is in the act of shooting so by the time your eyes have adjusted to the switch the puck is in the back of the net.

On the other hand, we're winning.

On the Tevye hand, Yale has 1;44 of PP to start the third down only one.

Also they show no replays of the goals.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2017, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ugarteWatched the CU goals on @Cornell_ILDN and holy shit do I hate the camera work. They always switch from the wide-angle to behind-the-net while the player is in the act of shooting so by the time your eyes have adjusted to the switch the puck is in the back of the net.

On the other hand, we're winning.

On the Tevye hand, Yale has 1;44 of PP to start the third down only one.

Also they show no replays of the goals.
They have multiple cameras! Put the highlight up as seriatim continuous feeds from each camera!

Also, there's someone listening to the audio close enough to the booth that you can hear a faint echo of the audio on a 1-2 second delay.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2017, 09:35:40 PM
Hoo boy. After taking a 2-0 lead I feel relieved to have escaped with a tie even though it sounded like the Yale goalie made a bunch of great saves.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: BearLover on February 11, 2017, 09:37:41 PM
2nd and 3rd period looked like '07-'13 Cornell vs. '07-'13 Yale.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: Iceberg on February 11, 2017, 09:42:06 PM
This game could've been similar to the one in New Haven had Cornell gotten a third goal in the 1st period. The current edition of Yale is a team that lives and dies by its forwards and forechecking.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: ugarte on February 11, 2017, 09:44:19 PM
Quote from: IcebergThis game could've been similar to the one in New Haven had Cornell gotten a third goal in the 1st period. The current edition of Yale is a team that lives and dies by its forwards and forechecking.
Missed penalty shot and it sounded like a pair of breakaways early in the third that we didn't cash in. Still, from the sound of it, could have been worse.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: Trotsky on February 11, 2017, 09:46:29 PM
We could have led 4-0 after 1, but we could have been outscored 0-5 in the second and third.

It's not sexy but I'll take it.

The positive, other than not losing, is we actually picked up a point on Clarkson who shat the bed against Princeton.

I don't particularly want to play Yale in the QF.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17 - L2-2
Post by: billhoward on February 11, 2017, 09:54:57 PM
Very nice opening period for Cornell. Yale presented Cornell with an insolvable forecheck in the second half of the game, got two goals in the final two periods, and we missed a penalty shot although based on past history we were not due to score another one until circa 2047.

The missed point - 1 instead of 2 - may hurt us. Just not as bad as taking only 1 of 4 points vs. Dartmouth.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: billhoward on February 11, 2017, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: IcebergThis game could've been similar to the one in New Haven had Cornell gotten a third goal in the 1st period. The current edition of Yale is a team that lives and dies by its forwards and forechecking.
They survived and we died by Yale's forechecking.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: upprdeck on February 11, 2017, 10:21:09 PM
the yale goalie played great though. we should have been up 4-0. then probably yale earned about 3 in the end it should have been about 5-3.. the 3rd was pretty even.  yale had good pressure but still we had multiple point blank plays that didnt go in.

it kills this team that we dont clear the puck when given the chance,   but when we do get it into the offensive end the cycle is as good as it has been in years with creating chances not just puck control.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: TimV on February 11, 2017, 10:28:21 PM
Quote from: TrotskyI don't particularly want to play Yale in the QF.

This year there's NOBODY in the ECAC that's  a QF creampuff.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: upprdeck on February 11, 2017, 10:29:08 PM
I wonder what kind of crowd shows up tomorrow with the nasty forecast..  hopefully campus doesnt lose power again
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: BearLover on February 11, 2017, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: upprdeckI wonder what kind of crowd shows up tomorrow with the nasty forecast..  hopefully campus doesnt lose power again
I've been largely impressed with the crowds lately...it's too bad we've blown so many leads in front of them.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: Dafatone on February 11, 2017, 11:31:48 PM
I wonder if we're playing at a bit too high a pace early on.  Out 1st periods are amazing, but clearly we're tiring down the stretch.

That being said, we are 15-6-3.  No complaints.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: Johnny 5 on February 12, 2017, 07:30:21 AM
Maybe we should play all of our games on the road!?

::bang::
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: upprdeck on February 12, 2017, 08:52:23 AM
Its strange that on the road we have come back several times and at home blown leads..  The crowd has been good.  Its the D that I worry about, maybe the pressure we generate early is masking the issues, but dang the clearing was just awful the 2nd half of that game last night
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: scoop85 on February 12, 2017, 09:08:54 AM
After Yates missed the penalty shot I had a sense of dread that we were going to be in for a dogfight. You could see by the end of the 1at period that Yale's forecheck and quick counter-strikes were already causing us problems. Being unable to get that 3rd goal made the final result almost inevitable.

Nothwitstanding the regular season results, is there anyone here who would rather see Yale than say, Dartmouth in a playoff matchup?
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: upprdeck on February 12, 2017, 10:02:39 AM
it was a strange game though.. it wasnt like yale forechecked  us physically.. they just got in so deep we struggled to make solid passes.. yet when we did get the puck even out to our own blue line, we got guys thru time after time for scoring plays.  and Still the number of times the puck was sitting in the crease and we could connect with up was mind boggling.

It is something  that i hope on film they can correct, because our offensive zone pressure was really good once we got it in there.

it was frustrating to have the puck on a stick on our own end and just whiff on the clear though..  and they seem content to chip along the boards and it yale seemed to stuff it time after time.
Title: Re: Yale @ Cornell 02/11/17
Post by: marty on February 12, 2017, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: upprdeckIt is something  that i hope on film they can correct, because our offensive zone pressure was really good once we got it in there.

This is the potential silver lining.  To be continued.