With the early exhibition games, we may not have a Red/White game.
Unfortunately a lousy OOC schedule. We'd better do well in conference.
Attached is the full ECAC schedule.
Sat 10/14 Guelph
Sun 10/15 Ottawa
Fri 10/27 UAH
Sat 10/28 UAH
Fri 11/03 @ Quinnipiac
Sat 11/04 @ Princeton
Fri 11/10 Dartmouth
Sat 11/11 Harvard
Fri 11/17 St. Lawrence
Sat 11/18 Clarkson
Tue 11/21 Niagara ESPN 3
Sat 11/25 BU @ MSG
Fri 12/01 @ Miami
Sat 12/02 @ Miami
Sat 12/30 Canisius
Fri 1/05 Princeton
Sat 1/06 Quinnipiac ESPN3
Fri 1/12 @ Yale
Sat 1/13 @ Brown ESPN3
Fri 1/19 Colgate
Sat 1/20 @Colgate
Fri 1/26 @ Harvard ESPN 3
Sat 1/27 @ Dartmouth
Fri 2/02 Union
Sat 2/03 Rensselaer
Fri 2/09 @ Clarkson
Sat 2/10 @ St. Lawrence
Fri 2/16 Brown
Sat 2/17 Yale
Fri 2/23 @ Rensselaer
Sat 2/24 @ Union
Fri 3/02-Sun 3/04 ECAC Prelims
Fri 3/09-Sun 3/11 ECAC Quarterfinals
Fri 3/16 ECAC Semi-Finals @ Lake Placid
Sat 3/17 ECAC Finals @ Lake Placid
Fri 3/23-Sun 3/25 NCAA Regionals @ Bridgeport, Sioux Falls, Worcester, Allentown
Thu 4/05 NCAA Semi-Finals @ Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, MN
Sat 4/07 NCAA Finals @ Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul, MN
Brutal final few weeks. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may.
Quote from: TrotskyBrutal final few weeks. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may.
Yeah, those ECAC and NCAA playoffs are brutal.
Is Harvard refusing to go to Troy next year? ::rolleyes::
Quote from: ursusminorIs Harvard refusing to go to Troy next year? ::rolleyes::
They'll go on a different date, since obviously they have that weekend reserved to lose the first round of the Bean Pot.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorIs Harvard refusing to go to Troy next year? ::rolleyes::
They'll go on a different date, since obviously they have that weekend reserved to lose the first round of the Bean Pot.
I realize that, and it says that at the top of the file. I wonder why we seem to be the ones to have to do that so often. It was also RPI this year. I guess if they moved Union instead of RPI, they would have even less of an alibi for losing in the Bean Pot.
Jim,
I assume that this schedule is now public knowledge and you have no problem with it being linked elsewhere. I posted it on the RPI thread on USCHO.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorIs Harvard refusing to go to Troy next year? ::rolleyes::
They'll go on a different date, since obviously they have that weekend reserved to lose the first round of the Bean Pot.
I realize that, and it says that at the top of the file. I wonder why we seem to be the ones to have to do that so often. It was also RPI this year. I guess if they moved Union instead of RPI, they would have even less of an alibi for losing in the Bean Pot.
Jim,
I assume that this schedule is now public knowledge and you have no problem with it being linked elsewhere. I posted it on the RPI thread on USCHO.
You're correct.
Why are there league games at Lynah during the Winter Break?
Quote from: IcebergWhy are there league games at Lynah during the Winter Break?
My guess is we've just lucked out recently.
Quote from: IcebergWhy are there league games at Lynah during the Winter Break?
That's happened before and the ticket office has asked for donation of tickets that aren't going to be used. I know at least some have been given to area kids teams.
Is going back to the Florida tournament confirmed for December 2017?
Quote from: CU2007Is going back to the Florida tournament confirmed for December 2017?
They usually announce the next field at the close of the tourney. Did they not do that?
The Florida Tourney is very much in doubt. Heard the rumors upon arrival and talked with Trent Ferguson, Director of Sales. His answer to the question concerning the tourney next year was "To be determined".
Attendance was way down, much less than the announced since I suspect that they were counting the season ticket sales. For Cornell game I would guess under 2000 the first night and the second game "crowd" could be counted in the hundreds. Arena GM Craig Brush (Cornell '70), prime mover of this tourney is nearing retirement and no one seems to have the fire to carry on.
SIGH!
Quote from: cufanThe Florida Tourney is very much in doubt. Heard the rumors upon arrival and talked with Trent Ferguson, Director of Sales. His answer to the question concerning the tourney next year was "To be determined".
Attendance was way down, much less than the announced since I suspect that they were counting the season ticket sales. For Cornell game I would guess under 2000 the first night and the second game "crowd" could be counted in the hundreds. Arena GM Craig Brush (Cornell '70), prime mover of this tourney is nearing retirement and no one seems to have the fire to carry on.
SIGH!
It's had a very good run, I wouldn't sigh too hard, particularly if it has hurt us more than helped over all.
But if they hold one more I guess I gotta go. I've never been to it. Maybe that's the problem, I'm still 11-1 in Hanover. :)
In the getting way ahead of myself department, wondering if there is any update for the 2017-2018 schedule. The ECAC schedule which generally flips from the previous year I
imagine is pretty much all set. Just speculation, I suspect the Florida tournament will not continue. This increases the out of conference schedule to seven games hopefully
within travel distance. I would think we are obligated to travel to Miami(Ohio) for two and if staying with tradition, MSG with BU is likely. Thus, this leaves four games to be determined. Any inside info from anyone would be appreciated.
I suspect the alternative to FL will be playing musical chairs every year trying to get into other tournaments, and scheduling more AH opponents for the years we fail.
I'd much rather keep FL and try to jazz it up. Find a perennial top tier (NoDak, BC, Minny) co-host for stability. Have a standing invite for the US major junior team as a warm up for their tourney. Full frontal nudity and chimps. Something.
Quote from: TrotskyI suspect the alternative to FL will be playing musical chairs every year trying to get into other tournaments, and scheduling more AH opponents for the years we fail.
I'd much rather keep FL and try to jazz it up. Find a perennial top tier (NoDak, BC, Minny) co-host for stability. Have a standing invite for the US major junior team as a warm up for their tourney. Full frontal nudity and chimps. Something.
Bread and circuses?
I would strongly suggest if the Florida tourney is eliminated that CU attempt to host a tourney of their own at Lynah. An argument against might be a potential lack of attendance while students are away for the holidays. A reduced price for these games would potentially offset it buy appealing to more locals especially kids who might get the chance to attend. Season ticket holders could be charged a lower rate. Season ticket packages for students could be bought either with or without these games. Seems like a no brainer. Pretty sure the allure of playing at Lynah would help draw in top tier hockey schools who otherwise you wouldn't see during either semester. Would be nice to see other programs in Ithaca for a change. Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued. Best bet is it had something to do with the almighty $. Not sure what the financial arrangement was for Florida trips but I would think this would be better. Lastly, only having 13 home games this year is just too few. Any thoughts?
Quote from: wakester2468I would strongly suggest if the Florida tourney is eliminated that CU attempt to host a tourney of their own at Lynah. An argument against might be a potential lack of attendance while students are away for the holidays. A reduced price for these games would potentially offset it buy appealing to more locals especially kids who might get the chance to attend. Season ticket holders could be charged a lower rate. Season ticket packages for students could be bought either with or without these games. Seems like a no brainer. Pretty sure the allure of playing at Lynah would help draw in top tier hockey schools who otherwise you wouldn't see during either semester. Would be nice to see other programs in Ithaca for a change. Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued. Best bet is it had something to do with the almighty $. Not sure what the financial arrangement was for Florida trips but I would think this would be better. Lastly, only having 13 home games this year is just too few. Any thoughts?
Let's see, the allure of playing at Lynah in December right after Christmas with no students, so no atmosphere.
That, by itself ought to have teams just willing to pay CU for the opportunity.
Sorry for being so mean, but I just don't see it.
Also, in regards to your other post, if you go back to my first post, I had attached the full ECAC schedule. So yes, it's set, all but travel partners.
Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.
When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.
When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?
It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.
When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?
It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.
Right.
I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.
When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?
It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.
Right.
I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.
Two two-year runs: 59-60 and 77-78 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Holiday_Tournaments.html).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: wakester2468Several years ago Cornell hosted such an event but not sure why it was discontinued.
When did Cornell host a tournament at Lynah?
It certainly wasn't during the winter holidays - we've been playing/hosting the tourney in Estero since 2000.
Right.
I actually don't remember Cornell hosting a tournament like that since I've been following Cornell hockey (1982), but I've also been shown that my memory is not perfect, so I am open to hearing about something I may have forgotten.
Two two-year runs: 59-60 and 77-78 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Holiday_Tournaments.html).
So not exactly "several years ago." :)
So according to Merriam Webster, much to my dismay, you are correct. Several is more than a few but less than many. However, showing my age, I was at the Christmas tournament
in the late 70's. I would be curious to see the breakdown of the student to non student at games the past few years. I'm not implying that the place would be sold out by any means.
However, with reduced pricing for seniors, youth and for that matter giving season ticket holders a break for once, it would certainly be better than what we have seen in Fla.
So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose? Two more home games for those season ticket holders who would like to see some hockey at Christmas time. I went to Estero this year for the first time and was so disappointed.
Quote from: wakester2468So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose?
The players like the warm beaches stocked without regard to Ivy admissions and the coaching staff likes the team bonding opportunities?
from what i have gathered the players are not all the psyched about the florida trip even now. they would probably just fly home for a week.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: wakester2468So give it a try for one year. What the hell do you have to lose?
The players like the warm beaches stocked without regard to Ivy admissions and the coaching staff likes the team bonding opportunities?
And you have money to lose. You don't think the teams, 3 others if you'll have a tournament, are paying their own way, do you? You have to pay their transportation, room and board, as well as any perks you give them. Then there's the question of whether they expect some extra money for attending.
Finally, I still don't think it would be easy to attract the kind of schools that I think people are talking about. Again, do teams look at coming to Ithaca in late December as a wonderful opportunity? Doubtful.
So rather than just speculate that it wouldn't work, why not put out feelers to a handful of teams to determine the viability of such an idea.
Not knowing the financial arrangement Cornell has had yearly for the Florida trip, it's difficult to compare the monetary ramifications.
Regarding weather, Dartmouth for many years has hosted their holiday tournament with top level participants from major conferences such as BC and Michigan to
mention a couple. This is hockey. Not spring training baseball.
Quote from: wakester2468So rather than just speculate that it wouldn't work, why not put out feelers to a handful of teams to determine the viability of such an idea.
Not knowing the financial arrangement Cornell has had yearly for the Florida trip, it's difficult to compare the monetary ramifications.
Regarding weather, Dartmouth for many years has hosted their holiday tournament with top level participants from major conferences such as BC and Michigan to
mention a couple. This is hockey. Not spring training baseball.
Do you know that this hasn't happened? I don't, but in Florida you have a CU hockey alum who wanted to make it work.
Maybe you could offer to do some leg work and see what's the interest. It's easy to complain, but it takes work to make something happen.
I'm sure that if someone like Craig Brush would make an offer, CU would be willing to listen.
Not sure how you interpret my post as complaining. This is just a thought for an alternative to the Florida games should they not continue. My suggestion is only
in response to other posts that discuss the fact that the event might not continue. If I were a Florida CU alum like yourself, I would be echoing the same thoughts as you. I am a loyal alum myself of over 40 years from New Hampshire. If there was a way to do some leg work I would be more than happy but that's not realistic. On another note, like you in Florida, I live one mile from the SNHU Arena(formerly the Verizon Wireless Arena) in Manchester where the Northeast Regional is this year. For a few weeks now, Jason Moy in his bracketology has predicted CU to be placed here. After so many years, personally it would be nice to see the Big Red play in my home town for the first time. It's a very nice facility worth attending and supporting the team should it happen.
Quote from: Jim Hylain Florida you have a CU hockey alum who wanted to make it work.
QuoteCan you explain this for those of us who don't know the ins and outs?
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: Jim Hylain Florida you have a CU hockey alum who wanted to make it work.
Can you explain this for those of us who don't know the ins and outs?
I'll refer you to his bio page from the Florida Everblades website. (http://floridaeverblades.com/team/florida-everblades-staff/craig-brush/)
Scroll down and you'll see:
"Brush played hockey for four seasons at Cornell University where he was a member of the 1970 undefeated NCAA Championship team, which was the only team in collegiate history to accomplish this feat."
He's the President of the Everblades.
Quote from: wakester2468Not sure how you interpret my post as complaining. This is just a thought for an alternative to the Florida games should they not continue. My suggestion is only
in response to other posts that discuss the fact that the event might not continue. If I were a Florida CU alum like yourself, I would be echoing the same thoughts as you. I am a loyal alum myself of over 40 years from New Hampshire. If there was a way to do some leg work I would be more than happy but that's not realistic. On another note, like you in Florida, I live one mile from the SNHU Arena(formerly the Verizon Wireless Arena) in Manchester where the Northeast Regional is this year. For a few weeks now, Jason Moy in his bracketology has predicted CU to be placed here. After so many years, personally it would be nice to see the Big Red play in my home town for the first time. It's a very nice facility worth attending and supporting the team should it happen.
I assume you're referring to me, but Syracuse is a long way from Florida and I've never been to one of the tournaments.
So why don't you look into a tournament in Manchester? There are a lot of teams nearby, so transportation costs wouldn't be that much.
Actually that's not the worst idea you have had. In conjunction with UNH which is 40 minutes away and with the fact that there seems to be a good relationship between Dick Umile and Cornell already, there is some validity to that concept. There is a Cornell Club of NH in town and we already know how Cornell takes over Lynah East annually. The two could host jointly like Maine for awhile did in Fla.
The top notch New England schools might like such an event. It's a pipe dream but why not fantasize.
Dec. 1 and 2 at Miami.
I found it on Miami's website:
http://www.miamiredhawks.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/mioh-m-hockey-sched.html
Quote from: jkahnDec. 1 and 2 at Miami.
I found it on Miami's website:
http://www.miamiredhawks.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/mioh-m-hockey-sched.html
Thanks, added.
Any rumblings on Estero? Won't be long until you can probably safely stick a fork in it.
I heard some CHA members at LP saying it wasn't happening.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I heard some CHA members at LP saying it wasn't happening.
bummer, thanks for the update.
Although disappointed with Saturdays outcome, I prefer to think of this season as a success with my preseason hopes of making it to Lake Placid met and
exceeded. While 2017 - 2018 season is 7 months away, I hope posts continue through the spring and summer months. Sometimes the anticipation of what's to
come is as enjoyable as it is during the season I especially am looking forward to the official schedule with such things as who replaces Merrimack, MSG and the Florida situation. A lot of variables this year. Keep the faith. GO RED!
Does anyone have any information regarding the official 2017-2018 schedule? If it hasn't been released yet, curious when to expect the announcement. Will be interesting to see who we add for out of conference opponents to go along with traveling to Miami. Also still wondering if the Florida trip will continue.
Quote from: wakester2468Also still wondering if the Florida trip will continue.
If it doesn't we need to take the Ned Harkness Cup and stow it for another future attempt. Like in Switzerland. Or Kepler-186f after FTL.
It has been reported on the USCHO schedule thread that UAH is visiting Cornell on 10/27 and 10/28.
It's confirmed on UAH's schedule announcement (http://www.uahchargers.com/news/2017/5/26/mens-ice-hockey-corbett-announces-schedule-changes-to-2017-18-season.aspx).
Quote from: ursusminorIt has been reported on the USCHO schedule thread that UAH is visiting Cornell on 10/27 and 10/28.
This is awesome. Are we returning the favor? I would be down for that. Never been to AL and can't imagine literally
any other reason ever to.
Edit: Jesus Chist. Not only is the rink UAH plays in named after Wernher von Braun (https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=Wernher+von+Braun+tom+lehrer#id=2&vid=61bafe143e15c8a480fd576de89d8b68&action=click), but it looks like right next to it there's a
fucking ICBM (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/I-565_at_Space_and_Rocket_Center.jpg)!Oh, I'm in.
Quote from: wakester2468Does anyone have any information regarding the official 2017-2018 schedule? If it hasn't been released yet, curious when to expect the announcement. Will be interesting to see who we add for out of conference opponents to go along with traveling to Miami. Also still wondering if the Florida trip will continue.
Cornell plays 22 ECAC games and 7 OOC games. If we can count 7 out of conference games without Florida Hockey Classic, then it's a goner. IF OOC is this:
2 vs. OOC 10/27-28 or 1/19-20 (one pair OOC (UAH), one pair Colgate)
1 at MSG Thanksgiving weekend (assuming)
2 at Miami 12/1 12/2
... Cornell has 2 games open still
FWIW, last year's Florida attendance was 3812 & 3772 total 7584. Capacity for hockey is 7186.
Hopefully, remaining two games in Florida or elsewhere will be an upgrade. Strength of schedule takes a hit with UAB and hoping here Miami has a good season.
Florida attendance also included the local EHL season ticket holders as paid attendance. The actual number in the building was considerably less. I counted the first nights 2nd game attendance in the hundreds. Never more than 2500 for the second night - if that many.
The arena heavily subsidizes the teams for their travel and gets some good discounts for lodging. With ex Cornellian Arena GM Craig Bush soon to retire, there is no one there ready to push to continue.
Carolina Hurricanes and Florida Everblades owner Peter Karmanos Jr. (who also owns the Germain Arena) apparently did not want to spend money that did not live up to its potential.
Yes Ohio State and Notre Dame brought in the local winter "Snowbirds" but Lake Superior State and Colorado College could not fill seats.
Too bad, spent the last 6 tournaments there as it is only 150 miles from home.
Haven't been in Lyanh since '74.
Sigh!
Do you have the definitive word on the elimination of the Florida College Hockey Classic? It sounds in your post that it's done.
Quote from: wakester2468Hopefully, remaining two games in Florida or elsewhere will be an upgrade. Strength of schedule takes a hit with UAB and hoping here Miami has a good season, after 12/2.
Fixed your post.
Quote from: cufanFlorida attendance also included the local EHL season ticket holders as paid attendance. The actual number in the building was considerably less. I counted the first nights 2nd game attendance in the hundreds. Never more than 2500 for the second night - if that many.
The arena heavily subsidizes the teams for their travel and gets some good discounts for lodging. With ex Cornellian Arena GM Craig Bush soon to retire, there is no one there ready to push to continue.
Carolina Hurricanes and Florida Everblades owner Peter Karmanos Jr. (who also owns the Germain Arena) apparently did not want to spend money that did not live up to its potential.
Yes Ohio State and Notre Dame brought in the local winter "Snowbirds" but Lake Superior State and Colorado College could not fill seats.
Too bad, spent the last 6 tournaments there as it is only 150 miles from home.
Haven't been in Lyanh since '74.
Sigh!
I haven't been there, either.;-)
Quote from: ursusminorIt has been reported on the USCHO schedule thread that UAH is visiting Cornell on 10/27 and 10/28.
Thanks, posted.
So if all the possibles are correct, we have the questions of when is Colgate, who are exhibitions, and is Florida still on.
Fla. tourney normally scheduled for Dec 28 and 29 in past years. Germain Arena does not list the tourney in their events schedule for those dates but they have booked a comedian for the 28th.
http://germainarena.com/events-tickets-2/events-tickets/?at=7&month=12
Usually it is included in the Everblades schedule and this year their is no mention of it.
Sigh!
Tom in Vero
Quote from: cufanFla. tourney normally scheduled for Dec 28 and 29 in past years. Germain Arena does not list the tourney in their events schedule for those dates but they have booked a comedian for the 28th.
http://germainarena.com/events-tickets-2/events-tickets/?at=7&month=12
Usually it is included in the Everblades schedule and this year their is no mention of it.
Sigh!
Tom in Vero
Bet Gaffigan outdraws us.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: cufanFla. tourney normally scheduled for Dec 28 and 29 in past years. Germain Arena does not list the tourney in their events schedule for those dates but they have booked a comedian for the 28th.
http://germainarena.com/events-tickets-2/events-tickets/?at=7&month=12
Usually it is included in the Everblades schedule and this year their is no mention of it.
Sigh!
Tom in Vero
Bet Gaffigan outdraws us.
Bet he puts on a better show too.
Quote from: cufanFla. tourney normally scheduled for Dec 28 and 29 in past years. Germain Arena does not list the tourney in their events schedule for those dates but they have booked a comedian for the 28th.
http://germainarena.com/events-tickets-2/events-tickets/?at=7&month=12
Dec. 29-30 is available at the arenda. As is the rest of the month other than 12/28. I thought the tournament played between 12/27 and 12/29 or 12/30. So that leaves a sliver of hope.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: cufanFla. tourney normally scheduled for Dec 28 and 29 in past years. Germain Arena does not list the tourney in their events schedule for those dates but they have booked a comedian for the 28th.
http://germainarena.com/events-tickets-2/events-tickets/?at=7&month=12
Dec. 29-30 is available at the arenda. As is the rest of the month other than 12/28. I thought the tournament played between 12/27 and 12/29 or 12/30. So that leaves a sliver of hope.
Thursday I received email from Germain Arena advertising season tickets. No indication of a tournament in the packages.
i heard no tourney this year..
If upprdeck's information is correct about the Florida tournament, it's interesting to speculate how the last two games now open will be filled. Now that UAH is confirmed at Lynah, we are on the road at Miami and the annual Thanksgiving weekend game most likely against BU occurs, who will be scheduled as the first two games after the break. I have heard that Mike has a good relationship with Bob Gaudet at Dartmouth.
They host an annual holiday event on dec 29th and 30th each year. It's a predetermined two games, not the two winner and losers playing on the 30th. Last year Colgate participated so a second team along with Dartmouth from ECAC isn't an issue since they wouldn't play against each other. On the Dartmouth schedule, three teams have been announced. UNH, Minnesota Duluth and Dartmouth. While a fourth team might have already been added, I can't find on anyone's schedule as of yet who it is. If it happened to be Cornell. that would mean Cornell would play Duluth and UNH which would help their out of conference schedule greatly. Of course being from NH this appeals to me greatly at best is probably just wishful thinking. I do still like the idea of Cornell hosting a holiday event but unless it's already planned but not publicized, its late in the scheduling process to tie up three other team.
If anyone has any additional info, I'd be curious to hear about it.
Quote from: wakester2468If upprdeck's information is correct about the Florida tournament, it's interesting to speculate how the last two games now open will be filled. Now that UAH is confirmed at Lynah, we are on the road at Miami and the annual Thanksgiving weekend game most likely against BU occurs,
...and yet there's been no announcement of Red Hot Hockey (or Frozen Apple), it's not on Cornell's schedule or BU's schedule, and it's not on MSG's schedule. Tickets have been available as early as February some years, but here we are without even any news.
Quote from: Beeeej...and yet there's been no announcement of Red Hot Hockey (or Frozen Apple), it's not on Cornell's schedule or BU's schedule, and it's not on MSG's schedule. Tickets have been available as early as February some years, but here we are without even any news.
anyone have any more information on whether the MSG game will continue this year and, if so, if BU remains the opponent?
Quote from: wakester2468If upprdeck's information is correct about the Florida tournament, it's interesting to speculate how the last two games now open will be filled. Now that UAH is confirmed at Lynah, we are on the road at Miami and the annual Thanksgiving weekend game most likely against BU occurs, who will be scheduled as the first two games after the break. I have heard that Mike has a good relationship with Bob Gaudet at Dartmouth.
They host an annual holiday event on dec 29th and 30th each year. It's a predetermined two games, not the two winner and losers playing on the 30th. Last year Colgate participated so a second team along with Dartmouth from ECAC isn't an issue since they wouldn't play against each other. On the Dartmouth schedule, three teams have been announced. UNH, Minnesota Duluth and Dartmouth. While a fourth team might have already been added, I can't find on anyone's schedule as of yet who it is. If it happened to be Cornell. that would mean Cornell would play Duluth and UNH which would help their out of conference schedule greatly. Of course being from NH this appeals to me greatly at best is probably just wishful thinking. I do still like the idea of Cornell hosting a holiday event but unless it's already planned but not publicized, its late in the scheduling process to tie up three other team.
If anyone has any additional info, I'd be curious to hear about it.
Duluth's schedule has Yale and Dartmouth.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: wakester2468If upprdeck's information is correct about the Florida tournament, it's interesting to speculate how the last two games now open will be filled. Now that UAH is confirmed at Lynah, we are on the road at Miami and the annual Thanksgiving weekend game most likely against BU occurs,
...and yet there's been no announcement of Red Hot Hockey (or Frozen Apple), it's not on Cornell's schedule or BU's schedule, and it's not on MSG's schedule. Tickets have been available as early as February some years, but here we are without even any news.
In 2010 the Colgate game at Prudential Center wasn't announced until October 7.
4/7/2011 BU
6/19/2012 Michigan
2/28/2013 BU
2/19/2014 Penn State
4/2/2015 BU
5/20/2016 UNH
These are based on when I received email from Athletics announcing the impending ticket sales.
Red Hot Hockey--the next installment of the Big Red vs. the Terriers--is up on the MSG site (11/25/17 at 8 p.m.) On-sale has been changed to 6/23:
http://www.thegarden.com/events/2017/november/red-hot-hockey.html
Glad that is confirmed and certainly raises the strength of schedule considerably. I'm researching every other teams schedule that has been announced and still can't figure out what the games will be over the holidays if Florida is history. Ledyard classic in Hanover is full. Catamount tourney seems unlikely so it's looking more and more like it could be teams like Niagara or RIT. That does not thrill me Hope I'm wrong.
Its not RIT
Quote from: moskcraigRed Hot Hockey--the next installment of the Big Red vs. the Terriers--is up on the MSG site (11/25/17 at 8 p.m.) On-sale has been changed to 6/23:
http://www.thegarden.com/events/2017/november/red-hot-hockey.html
If you follow the "subscribe now" link, it says that the internet presale starts at noon on 6/21.
I can't remember whether tickets were also available through Cornell in past years, ensuring that we would end up in a Cornell section, or whether the MSG site showed the division clearly.
On a hot Sunday afternoon with the AC running full guns, while watching golf for nine hours I decided to do a little cross referencing while waiting for the official Big Red schedule to be announced. Through process of elimination I've narrowed down
potential opponents after Christmas assuming they actually play that week whether it's in Florida or elsewhere.
I was fearful that we would end up with games against either RIT or Niagara but both are now committed otherwise.
So correct me if I'm wrong plus teams are finalizing schedule daily but here are the teams left uncommitted or at least unannounced to date.
Notre Dame, BC Connecticut, North Dakota, Alaska Fairbanks, Canisius(sp) Mercyhurst, Sacred Heart and Bentley.
Notre Dame, BC or No Dakota would be great but I'm not holding my breath. If someone can eliminate any of these schools please correct me.
I didn't realize Sacred Heart was also nicknamed the Big Red so I can see a Big Red vs Big Red showdown to go along with Red Hot Hockey.
Quote from: wakester2468I didn't realize Sacred Heart was also nicknamed the Big Red so I can see a Big Red vs Big Red showdown to go along with Red Hot Hockey.
The Sacred Heart athletic teams are named the Pioneers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart_Pioneers)
Their weird human mascot character (http://www.sacredheart.edu/aboutshu/news/newsstories/2007/february/new-mascot-big-red-makes-debut.html) is named Big Red.
You are correct but to the other more important portion of my post, do you have any additional info regarding scheduling. I still can't see Florida happening, They have a
performance scheduled for the 28th which would make the arena unavailable for practice that day if games are the 29th and 30th. Pretty sure they wouldn't play the 30th and
New Years Eve. Patiently waiting for official release of schedule. Actually, not so much.
German / TECO Arena has 2 or 3 rinks so conceivably the teams could practice at the facility. But I don't recall the second game being played after the 29th. Looks dimmer and dimmer.
Maybe there's an upside for the players of being able to take off for more than a few days, to see family.
Alaska Fairbanks out.
I was told it was a school beginning with an M..
Quote from: upprdeckI was told it was a school beginning with an M..
I hear Mordor is good this year.
Quote from: upprdeckI was told it was a school beginning with an M..
Wisconsin?
Wisconsin, even though they have the dates open, according to their hockey website, they have already scheduled the maximum number of games permissible.
Would be a great opponent though. Still hoping for Notre Dame, North Dakota or BC.
Notre Dame out. Their schedule released yesterday. Down to Atlantic Hockey North Dakota or BC. Another deduction could be that there aren't enough teams to fill
a tournament (Florida) at this point. Don't recall Atlantic hockey teams involved in the past.
North Dakota out. Schedule just released. Almost makes certain that Florida is toast.
Quote from: wakester2468North Dakota out. Schedule just released. Almost makes certain that Florida is toast.
I've heard from reliable sources that no Florida tourney this year
Starting to think that Colgate games will be played on Tuesdays which will open up the weekend of Jan 19 and 20th where it might be easier to schedule games outside of conference.
Creates an extremely long break from 12/2 to 1 /5 though.
Quote from: wakester2468Starting to think that Colgate games will be played on Tuesdays which will open up the weekend of Jan 19 and 20th where it might be easier to schedule games outside of conference.
Creates an extremely long break from 12/2 to 1 /5 though.
With an improving Princeton and perennial PITA Q first up when we come back rusty.
No sir, I don't like it.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: wakester2468Also still wondering if the Florida trip will continue.
If it doesn't we need to take the Ned Harkness Cup and stow it for another future attempt. Like in Switzerland. Or Kepler-186f after FTL.
Apparently Minnesota played in the Spengler Cup (https://www.spenglercup.ch/en/hall-of-fame/history) in 1981. Anyone up for a road trip to Davos?
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: wakester2468Also still wondering if the Florida trip will continue.
If it doesn't we need to take the Ned Harkness Cup and stow it for another future attempt. Like in Switzerland. Or Kepler-186f after FTL.
Apparently Minnesota played in the Spengler Cup (https://www.spenglercup.ch/en/hall-of-fame/history) in 1981. Anyone up for a road trip to Davos?
Oops, no luck. Their schedule is full:
https://www.spenglercup.ch/en/news/tournament-schedule-announced
At least now we know according to official post announcing Red Hot Hockey that the final schedule will be announced next week.
Latest prediction for the final two game is Mercyhurst.
Mercyhurst out! Canisius looking more likely
I found the person at Germain Arena who runs the tournament on, of all places, LinkedIn. Here is her response:
QuoteUnfortunately we are not hosting the Florida College Hockey Tournament this December.
It's dead, Jim.
Quote from: TrotskyI found the person at Germain Arena who runs the tournament on, of all places, LinkedIn. Here is her response:
QuoteUnfortunately we are not hosting the Florida College Hockey Tournament this December.
It's dead, Jim.
So it looks like the unknown is becoming more difficult. We don't seem to have a lot of good choices. Even Arizona has settled on their tournament schedule.
Not sure if anyone has posted this composite yet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tOhCK4qXRHp0CRY8P3AswlwtPHWGdpk08c3pHev5-Fw/htmlview#
Four potential opponent left in order of my personal preference.
1. BC. Home and home series would be great for many reasons.
2. Sacred Heart. They play a Webster Arena in Bridgeport which is used to host NCAA regional sometimes.
3 Canisius Buffalo area potentially good for recruiting in Ontario.
4. Bentley. No good reason to play them. Home rink capacity 1200.
These are the remaining teams as I see it available Dec 28-30
This all being said, it's more and more likely no games will be played at all until Princeton and Q meaning as stated earlier Colgate games
will be played on Tuesdays and the 28th and 29th game both out of conference will be on Jan 19 and 20. I agree with Trotsky, this option sucks.
So I am impatiently waiting for the official announcement this week promised by previous release from CU Athletic Dept.
Quote from: wakester24684. Bentley. No good reason to play them. Home rink capacity 1200.
Bentley is opening a new rink next year (https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/regionals/west/2016/07/21/finally-rink-bentley-for-falcons-call-home/O2OVmlZqExPE6e2kpMF7MJ/story.html), so we could host the front half of a home-and-home and then help open up the new building next season. Selfishly, that's the closest D1 program to me, and my brother-in-law went to Bentley, so I'm all for it.
That sounds like a potentially good idea. Bentley is actually close for me too residing in southern NH. Cornell always draws well in Boston area making it that much more logical. So now BC and Bentley are my top two choices.
Niagara and Canisius (http://cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1159&path=mhockey)
Disappointing but predictable. Canisius was only team available over Christmas break. Niagara on tuesday before Thanksgiving. On the plus side, 15 home games albeit 5 with no students on campus and a game after break before returning to ECAC schedule. I wonder if there is a reciprocal arrangement for next year with these two schools along with Alabama Huntsville.
Quote from: wakester2468Disappointing but predictable.
Think of it as tryouts for when Q bolts.
(My preference still being RIT.)
lots of seats will be free i suspect for the 3 games over xmas break. good for kids coming home from school
I posted it all, but note that the exhibition games are a week earlier than usual. So I'd guess that corresponds to the first weekend of coaches' practice. Meaning we probably won't have a Red/White game.
Unfortunately a lousy OOC schedule. We'd better do well in conference.
Quote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately a lousy OOC schedule.
I was gonna say "not
that lousy" but
2017
PWR:
Fri 10/27 [b]56[/b] UAH
Sat 10/28 [b]56[/b] UAH
Tue 11/21 [b]60[/b] Niagara
Sat 11/25 [b] 7[/b] BU @ MSG
Fri 12/01 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/02 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/30 [b]25[/b] Canisius
"Hey, who's
your second-best NC opponent?"
"Canisius!"
"Um..."
There's always the ECACs.
QuoteHOOVER: Well, sir, we're hoping that our midterm grades will really help our average.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately a lousy OOC schedule.
I was gonna say "not that lousy" but
2017 PWR:Fri 10/27 [b]56[/b] UAH
Sat 10/28 [b]56[/b] UAH
Tue 11/21 [b]60[/b] Niagara
Sat 11/25 [b] 7[/b] BU @ MSG
Fri 12/01 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/02 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/30 [b]25[/b] Canisius
"Hey, who's your second-best NC opponent?"
"Canisius!"
"Um..."
There's always the ECACs.
QuoteHOOVER: Well, sir, we're hoping that our midterm grades will really help our average.
Not a great schedule for sure, but Miami is the 2nd best NC opponent
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately a lousy OOC schedule.
I was gonna say "not that lousy" but
2017 PWR:Fri 10/27 [b]56[/b] UAH
Sat 10/28 [b]56[/b] UAH
Tue 11/21 [b]60[/b] Niagara
Sat 11/25 [b] 7[/b] BU @ MSG
Fri 12/01 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/02 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/30 [b]25[/b] Canisius
"Hey, who's your second-best NC opponent?"
"Canisius!"
"Um..."
There's always the ECACs.
QuoteHOOVER: Well, sir, we're hoping that our midterm grades will really help our average.
Miami will probably be pretty good this year. They have a lot of talent and good coaching and they played top-ranked opponents close last year.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately a lousy OOC schedule.
I was gonna say "not that lousy" but
2017 PWR:Fri 10/27 [b]56[/b] UAH
Sat 10/28 [b]56[/b] UAH
Tue 11/21 [b]60[/b] Niagara
Sat 11/25 [b] 7[/b] BU @ MSG
Fri 12/01 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/02 [b]31[/b] @ Miami
Sat 12/30 [b]25[/b] Canisius
"Hey, who's your second-best NC opponent?"
"Canisius!"
"Um..."
There's always the ECACs.
QuoteHOOVER: Well, sir, we're hoping that our midterm grades will really help our average.
Miami will probably be pretty good this year. They have a lot of talent and good coaching and they played top-ranked opponents close last year.
True, but I hate depending upon beating them at their rink. We could easily lose both of those and BU, with no one else, except ECAC, to offset them. Not the best.
The exhibition games are on Homecoming weekend, so campus will be hopping with activities.
Quote from: Cop at LynahThe exhibition games are on Homecoming weekend, so campus will be hopping with activities.
Too bad billhoward demands weather where he can wear tube-tops or something for Homecoming.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Cop at LynahThe exhibition games are on Homecoming weekend, so campus will be hopping with activities.
Too bad billhoward demands weather where he can wear tube-tops or something for Homecoming.
To be fair, going to a game at the Crescent on a warm fall day is one of my best memories from Ithaca.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: Cop at LynahThe exhibition games are on Homecoming weekend, so campus will be hopping with activities.
Too bad billhoward demands weather where he can wear tube-tops or something for Homecoming.
To be fair, going to a game at the Crescent on a warm fall day is one of my best memories from Ithaca.
And being in the Crescent during a warm driving rain on a steamy September day is one of my worst.
October brings football weather!
Quote from: Cop at LynahThe exhibition games are on Homecoming weekend, so campus will be hopping with activities.
Homecoming is the weekend --AFTER-- the exhibition games--October 20-21.
http://homecoming.cornell.edu/
The exhibition games are October 14 and 15.
http://www.cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhockey
I see the Quin game is on ESPN3 this week not the ivyleaguenetwork.
Quote from: upprdeckI see the Quin game is on ESPN3 this week not the ivyleaguenetwork.
Q also has a very professional video cast of their own. It's Q-riddled ("LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!" ) but great camera work and cromulent PBP.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckI see the Quin game is on ESPN3 this week not the ivyleaguenetwork.
Q also has a very professional video cast of their own. It's Q-riddled ("LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!" ) but great camera work and cromulent PBP.
I had to look up "cromulent."
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: upprdeckI see the Quin game is on ESPN3 this week not the ivyleaguenetwork.
Q also has a very professional video cast of their own. It's Q-riddled ("LET'S GET READY TO RUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBLE!" ) but great camera work and cromulent PBP.
I'm not sure it rises to the level of cromulence that you contend but I'm glad you made the claim (and so, I assume, is my 33 year old son who received a Merrium.com link).
Thanks!;-)
Not sure if there is a "TV thread" like there has been in the past, but according to the below, the game vs. Niagara will be available on ESPN3.
http://www.espn.com/watch/schedule?categoryId=25&startDate=20171121&type=upcoming
Quote from: CU2007Not sure if there is a "TV thread" like there has been in the past, but according to the below, the game vs. Niagara will be available on ESPN3.
http://www.espn.com/watch/schedule?categoryId=25&startDate=20171121&type=upcoming
Thanks, I started one.
Opening round of the Florida Hockey Classic would have been this evening. Instead, it's comedian Jim Gaffigan. Forecast in Estero is 82 degrees today and Thursday. Damn! We made almost half of the tournaments.