Welp (http://whcuradio.com/news/025520-michael-beard-found-guilty-of-murder-for-hire-killing/), this is interesting.
QuoteWENY-TV is reporting that a jury found Michael Beard guilty on 1 count of first degree murder and two counts of 2nd degree murder. The jury resumed deliberations late Friday morning, and asked to hear the testimony regarding D-N-A evidence again, along with the definition of the charges Michael Beard faced.
The prosecution alleged that Kelley's husband, Thomas Clayton, a former professional hockey player, hired Beard to kill Kelley and burn the house down.
According to Elite Prospects, Clayton played for Niagara in the 1999-2002 seasons, during which we played them 4 times. And, in fact, he got an assist against us in this (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2001/box20001126.pdf) game.
So, we have played at least one guy who put out a contract.
Clayton himself goes to trial in January (http://www.stargazette.com/story/news/local/2016/07/25/trial-date-set-thomas-clayton-wifes-murder/87533382/).
Our Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Quote from: martyOur Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Hopefully no one watched that.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyOur Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Hopefully no one watched that.
So, how hot is Appert's seat?
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyOur Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Hopefully no one watched that.
More intriguing than the 5-0 score in favor of UNH, the box score claims 3,020 attended (Whittemore Center capacity is 6,501). That is a faithful following of townspeople. It was also New Hampshire's 13th game.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyOur Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Hopefully no one watched that.
So, how hot is Appert's seat?
IIRC, his contract goes until 2021. I doubt that the school wants to eat that.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyOur Saturday foe is playing RPI tonight with free video on Youtube.
Check UNH Athletics Live.
Hopefully no one watched that.
So, how hot is Appert's seat?
IIRC, his contract goes until 2021. I doubt that the school wants to eat that.
That's quite a commitment for a coach who hasn't been able to move the program into the top echelon of the ECAC after a number of years
Q and SLU play to a scoreless tie (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2016/11/25/st-lawrence-vs-quinnipiac/) in Ireland.
Quote from: TrotskyQ and SLU play to a scoreless tie (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2016/11/25/st-lawrence-vs-quinnipiac/) in Ireland.
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbYykDB3_w460q4pbQ03lleU7P9Kx6MgZ31zZOZEIcOP92yI-Z)
Kyle Hayton is a very good goaltender. It's really something that SLU hasn't been able to make it to the NCAA's within the last two years.
What the hell (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2016-17/Game_Stories/20162511_Princeton_Bemidji)?
Princeton finally decided to play 60 minutes, and look what happened. Their beating high-ranked opponents is actually a good thing down the stretch in terms of strength-of-schedule.
Quote from: IcebergPrinceton finally decided to play 60 minutes, and look what happened. Their beating high-ranked opponents is actually a good thing down the stretch in terms of strength-of-schedule.
Not that I would suggest Princeton's win over Bemidji is solely responsible, but Cornell is up from 37th to 30th in the Pairwise after going 1-1 last weekend, which does suggest external factors.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: IcebergPrinceton finally decided to play 60 minutes, and look what happened. Their beating high-ranked opponents is actually a good thing down the stretch in terms of strength-of-schedule.
Not that I would suggest Princeton's win over Bemidji is solely responsible, but Cornell is up from 37th to 30th in the Pairwise after going 1-1 last weekend, which does suggest external factors.
I checked Friday morning and they were still 37. I think it might really
have been responsible. Yale tying Clarkson probably didn't hurt either.
Clarkson won and Princeton is leading Bemidji going into the third. This could be a very favorable weekend as far as Cornell is concerned.
Was scrolling thru the standings and came upon something strange: do the NCHC/WCHA award 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie?
Standings: http://www.uscho.com/standings/division-i-men/2016-2017/
Quote from: BearLoverWas scrolling thru the standings and came upon something strange: do the NCHC/WCHA award 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie?
Standings: http://www.uscho.com/standings/division-i-men/2016-2017/
I believe they awarded extra points for the shootout winner (yes, they use shootouts in those leagues ::cuss::)
Quote from: BearLoverWas scrolling thru the standings and came upon something strange: do the NCHC/WCHA award 3 points for a win and 1 for a tie?
Standings: http://www.uscho.com/standings/division-i-men/2016-2017/
They have a shootout if tied in OT. In such a case the points are 2 for the shootout winner and 1 for the loser. The shootout only counts for the league not the NCAA>
Anyone else notice that Q had 51 shots on goal Friday night?
Shame the Beanpot is scheduled for so late this year. This would be a hell of an interesting backdrop for it, bringing a ton of real meaning to the tourney, but the situation won't last until mid-February.
5t Harvard 54 7-2-1
5t Boston College 54 12-4-1
5t Boston University 54 8-4-1
...
30 Northeastern 30 5-6-4
Quote from: BeeeejShame the Beanpot is scheduled for so late this year. This would be a hell of an interesting backdrop for it, bringing a ton of real meaning to the tourney, but the situation won't last until mid-February.
5t Harvard 54 7-2-1
5t Boston College 54 12-4-1
5t Boston University 54 8-4-1
...
30 Northeastern 30 5-6-4
Harvard's consolation game could be very important for them.
Guy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
Quote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
I agree they will likely regress, but having watched some of their games, they do look like the real thing. That doesn't mean they'll win it all, but I suspect they'll be playing well into the playoffs.
Quote from: dbilmesAnyone else notice that Q had 51 shots on goal Friday night?
Credit to Cam Hackett for allowing four goals, three on the power play and detention time for the RPI D.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
I agree they will likely regress, but having watched some of their games, they do look like the real thing. That doesn't mean they'll win it all, but I suspect they'll be playing well into the playoffs.
They've outscored opponents 73-28.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
I agree they will likely regress, but having watched some of their games, they do look like the real thing. That doesn't mean they'll win it all, but I suspect they'll be playing well into the playoffs.
They've outscored opponents 73-28.
And that contradicts in what way the assertion that the opponents they've outscored are, by and large, exceptionally weak?
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
I wouldn't bet on it. They're one of, if not the best, play driving teams in the country. And they've basically been impervious to score effects. Good teams beat up on bad teams, and PSU certainly has done that. Now I'm not saying they'll remain 13-1-1 pace, but they're going to compete for the Big 10 title.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: TrotskyGuy Gadowsky does not suck (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Penn-State/60) as a coach.
That's an impressive record, until you look at the opponents. Notre Dame's the only surprise, as far as I'm concerned. Even Michigan isn't blue-chip this year. Most of Penn State's schedule so far is comprised of sub-#50 teams in the Pairwise.
Not that we've beaten any great teams either, but I also don't see anybody especially praising Mike.
Anyway, I suspect Penn State will have a serious regression to the mean in January and February.
I agree they will likely regress, but having watched some of their games, they do look like the real thing. That doesn't mean they'll win it all, but I suspect they'll be playing well into the playoffs.
They've outscored opponents 73-28.
And that contradicts in what way the assertion that the opponents they've outscored are, by and large, exceptionally weak?
Wasn't trying to contradict what you said, just adding to the convo. But on that point, blowing out everybody is the sign of a great team, even if the opposition is weak. The scores in those games are frankly absurd.
Quote from: BearLoverblowing out everybody is the sign of a great team, even if the opposition is weak.
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/rptCornell_Games_by_Year/rptCornell_Games_1970.pdf
Quote from: dbilmesAnyone else notice that Q had 51 shots on goal Friday night?
Q had 54 shots tonight in their loss to Union. ::yark::
RPI's nightmare season continues as they're getting steamrolled in New Haven. At this rate we might see 10 goals by the end of the night.
Quote from: IcebergRPI's nightmare season continues as they're getting steamrolled in New Haven. At this rate we might see 10 goals by the end of the night.
And we did, 7-3 final.
Quinnipiac gets handed their 3rd league loss by...Princeton, those Giant Killers. Rematch in Hamden tomorrow at 4pm.
Princeton winning is the best thing that can happen this weekend. New Hampshire winning tomorrow would also be good for pairwise.
Princeton has 4 wins and 3 of them over top 10 teams..
Quote from: upprdeckPrinceton has 4 wins and 3 of them over top 10 teams..
The 4th certainly wasn't against a Top 10 team.
Quote from: IcebergPrinceton winning is the best thing that can happen this weekend. New Hampshire winning tomorrow would also be good for pairwise.
Out of curiosity, why does it help us in the Pairwise when one of our opponents beats another one of our opponents? Happy P won regardless because F Q.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: IcebergPrinceton winning is the best thing that can happen this weekend. New Hampshire winning tomorrow would also be good for pairwise.
Out of curiosity, why does it help us in the Pairwise when one of our opponents beats another one of our opponents? Happy P won regardless because F Q.
In this case, we're in direct competition for an at-large bid with Q. This was an especially convenient example since we just moved up to #15 (tied with UNO) and QU fell past us to #17. So, you're right, in the end this won't change a comparison in our favor, but it hurts a competitor.
It's a long horse race, etc.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverQuote from: IcebergPrinceton winning is the best thing that can happen this weekend. New Hampshire winning tomorrow would also be good for pairwise.
Out of curiosity, why does it help us in the Pairwise when one of our opponents beats another one of our opponents? Happy P won regardless because F Q.
In this case, we're in direct competition for an at-large bid with Q. This was an especially convenient example since we just moved up to #15 (tied with UNO) and QU fell past us to #17. So, you're right, in the end this won't change a comparison in our favor, but it hurts a competitor.
It's a long horse race, etc.
And it narrows the gap in ECAC points in the all important race for home ice/bye. Q has now lost seven points over ten games to Cornell's five over seven.
Yale winning both of their next two games would also be nice, but I'm not so sure they're beating BU in that road game on Tuesday.
Now they have another one- USCHO lists this afternoons game at QPac as 4-1 Princeton.::banana::
Penn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder. Of course, most of the other top-ranked teams are loaded with picks. 4 1st-rounders on BU.
Quote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
Quote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it. It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback. So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
Also the Union team -- Ghostisphere was the only NHL draft pick on their roster
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
IIRC, the CU teams that won ECAC titles in '96-97 had 1-2 drafted players while Harvard had around 9-10.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
IIRC, the CU teams that won ECAC titles in '96-97 had 1-2 drafted players while Harvard had around 9-10.
I don't have the numbers to back this up, but draft picks tend to be younger. A good 20 year old has more NHL promise than a great 24 year old.
Makes sense that draft picks aren't always the best players.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it. It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback. So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it. It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback. So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
Man, recruiting sounds really easy!
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it. It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback. So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
You've already seen it. The Dream-Crushing Soul-Devouring Juggernaut was predicated on opponents whose offensive output would be driven into the ground faster than the opportunity cost of our style of play would cost us goals. For each goal we would "intentionally" forgo, we could reduce the opponent's score by some x > 1.0 goals.
Our defense-first players were successful against college competition, but they made no sense in the pros where guys who were equally great defensive players were
also blue chip stick handlers and playmakers.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseSounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
That Yale team reminded me of a college football team running the option: success predicated on the talent level of the college game and the inability of the defense to deal with it. It can't be run in the pros because there even the linemen and the linebackers run as fast as a good college halfback. So it makes sense that the team can dominate at the college level but the pros don't see potential in the roster.
I like this idea of recruiting and coaching to defeat one's opponents. Perhaps we should try it.
Man, recruiting sounds really easy!
Yeah it's real easy. Why, look at how well Yale is doing this year. Once you get that recruiting going, it just never stops.::uptosomething::
Speaking of Yale, they're not doing anybody in the conference any favors tonight. 5 goals in 2 periods against BU.
Princeton is rolling (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Princeton/45).
At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense. They look dangerous.
Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Princeton/45).
At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense. They look dangerous.
Quite a turn-around for the Tigers. I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Princeton/45).
At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense. They look dangerous.
Quite a turn-around for the Tigers. I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.
We often have a tough time there.
Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...
Quote from: Scersk '97Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...
That's why God made January (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/2017_Schedule.html).
This (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_All_Games.html) gives me pause.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton is rolling (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team/Princeton/45).
At the time of our game there were quotes from coaches saying they were a lot better than their record, and it wasn't in the Lou Holtz sense. They look dangerous.
Quite a turn-around for the Tigers. I was at the Princeton game at Lynah, which was right before Princeton started to win, and although we fell behind we had the clear edge in play. We'll certainly need to play well when we travel to Hobey Baker.
We often have a tough time there.
Yet there is another possibility in the above: that Princeton was already playing "better than their record" at Lynah, but that we've also got a pretty good team...
Yeah, I think we have a pretty good team. The biggest difference over the past few years is we have far better balanced scoring throughout the lineup. But our margin for error is still pretty slim, and the ECAC will present some tough challenges in the 2nd half. It's pretty important that we win the Fl. tournament given the opposition, and then beat Merrimack back at their place (which may well be the third game against them if we both take care of business in the first game in Estero).
Record through the first 11 games and the rest of the year:
2013 6-3-2 .636 9-13-1 .413
2014 7-3-1 .682 10- 7-4 .571
2015 5-5-1 .500 6- 9-5 .425
2016 8-1-2 .818 8-10-5 .457
2017 7-3-1 .682
In reply to both of you, the return from break swoon has been a recent bug in the system. I dearly hope this year's team can avoid it.
And the Florida games are often part of that, even in good years. If we can win there and beat Merrimack afterward, we'll have a very strong out-of-conference resumé. (The current RPI and thus PWR are very "win happy," so really it's the pure wins that count, I think, rather than the quality of opposition. There's that quality win fudge, but we won't be partaking in that OOC this year.)
But really I don't care about OOC or Florida (or Merrimack). It's about that second Princeton game this year, starting off the stretch run the right way. As far as I'm concerned, this year is all about the bye.
Quote from: TrotskyRecord through the first 11 games and the rest of the year:
2013 6-3-2 .636 9-13-1 .413
2014 7-3-1 .682 10- 7-4 .571
2015 5-5-1 .500 6- 9-5 .425
2016 8-1-2 .818 8-10-5 .457
2017 7-3-1 .682
How much of the above, though, might be due to starting out with a 100% (or close to 100%) healthy team, and then seeing key injuries in the second half of the season? With some luck, this year may see the team healthier in the second half of the season.
Quote from: Scersk '97In reply to both of you, the return from break swoon has been a recent bug in the system. I dearly hope this year's team can avoid it.
Schafer's post-game comments after the last game (https://youtu.be/XqlwMLOWpU8) mentioned something interesting:
QuoteWe're going to push really really hard here, and actually keep them after exams for the first time in a long time...and get ready for that second half.
"For the first time in a long time" is the interesting part. We've all sensed the rust coming from past teams after the break. It will be interesting to see if this helps correct the 2nd half swoon. Trotsky is right, though...that January schedule is about as tough a stretch as we've seen.
Additionally, from http://cornellsun.com/2016/12/03/cornell-mens-hockey-extends-win-streak-completes-sweep-of-miami-oh/
QuotePart of this plan includes Schafer keeping his team back in Ithaca after players take their final exams in order to to keep the team in shape with additional practices.
"We're going to practice hard and make sure we don't lose a beat," Weidner said. "It's something that needs to be done especially jumping right back into it right after Christmas."
"We're looking to not take our foot off the gas," Wedman added, "and hopefully come out of this break just as good as we are now."
Is it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
Quote from: BearLoverIs it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
I thought we had a ton of injuries tho...?
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: BearLoverIs it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
I thought we had a ton of injuries tho...?
Think he's referring to the fact that a lot of those guys are expected to be back in the New Year (or maybe by the Florida Tourney)
Quote from: BearLoverIs it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
No, at least according to my thoughts. But since a number of our injuries were preseason, you could argue that playing fewer games early on means it's not as crucial having everyone available. However that's stretching it.
Quote from: CU2007Quote from: abmarksQuote from: BearLoverIs it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
I thought we had a ton of injuries tho...?
Think he's referring to the fact that a lot of those guys are expected to be back in the New Year (or maybe by the Florida Tourney)
I think he's referring to all seasons, not just this one with the injuries. The idea would be we may lose the sharpening of having a few games under our belt but we also avoid having guys dinged up in October. It's a valid hypothesis, and would explain why we regress in the second two thirds when the schedule evens out. The first thing to check would be whether the other Ivies show the same pattern and/or whether we show it outside the chosen interval.
I doubt it, but it is testable.
My completely subjective and untestable hypothesis is (1) random variation over a SSS, (2) the team doesn't gel as well as its opponents over the course of the season, and (3) in prior years we've had the Prague Spring before Florida followed by Operation Danube afterwards, and the jarring from the crackdown on style has done Bad Things.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: CU2007Quote from: abmarksQuote from: BearLoverIs it possible starting the season later actually gives Cornell a leg up on the competition out of the gate? Fewer injuries/better rested?
I thought we had a ton of injuries tho...?
Think he's referring to the fact that a lot of those guys are expected to be back in the New Year (or maybe by the Florida Tourney)
I think he's referring to all seasons, not just this one with the injuries. The idea would be we may lose the sharpening of having a few games under our belt but we also avoid having guys dinged up in October. It's a valid hypothesis, and would explain why we regress in the second two thirds when the schedule evens out. The first thing to check would be whether the other Ivies show the same pattern and/or whether we show it outside the chosen interval.
I doubt it, but it is testable.
My completely subjective and untestable hypothesis is (1) random variation over a SSS, (2) the team doesn't gel as well as its opponents over the course of the season, and (3) in prior years we've had the Prague Spring before Florida followed by Operation Danube afterwards, and the jarring from the crackdown on style has done Bad Things.
Yes, I meant over all seasons, not just this one. I also doubt it.
The thing with Princeton is that they are a team that can skate well; and they still have two more games coming up this weekend against an OK Mankato team.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
Also the Union team -- Ghostisphere was the only NHL draft pick on their roster
Yeah but having a future should-have-been Calder winner on you team (also should have won the Hobey) is more than enough to make up for a lack of draft picks.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: BearLoverPenn State has one draft pick on team, a 7th rounder.
Sounds like Yale from a few years back: only 1 draft pick, but good coaching and an effective system.
Yale was also very lucky to win it all, getting in as the last at-large. There are enough more 15-draft pick North Dakotas than 1-draft pick Yales to conclude that draft picks are highly correlated with team success.
Quote from: BearLoverYale was also very lucky to win it all, getting in as the last at-large.
Not only that, but they were
out and then Michigan saved them.
Princeton 5-0 up on Mankato and the 2nd period isn't even over. The WCHA is kind of weak this year, but this is some scary stuff and I wonder if they'll be the same team after the break.
Quote from: IcebergPrinceton 5-0 up on Mankato and the 2nd period isn't even over. The WCHA is kind of weak this year, but this is some scary stuff and I wonder if they'll be the same team after the break.
Maybe they got some players back from injury. Anybody know?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: IcebergPrinceton 5-0 up on Mankato and the 2nd period isn't even over. The WCHA is kind of weak this year, but this is some scary stuff and I wonder if they'll be the same team after the break.
Maybe they got some players back from injury. Anybody know?
Don't think so, but before our game with them the general consensus was coaches around the conference were saying they were a much more dangerous team than their record.
They were right.
Current Unbeaten Streak: W- L- T Games
Penn State 12- 0- 1 13
Cornell 5- 0- 0 5
Princeton 5- 0- 0 5
Union 4- 0- 0 4
Quote from: IcebergPrinceton 5-0 up on Mankato and the 2nd period isn't even over. The WCHA is kind of weak this year, but this is some scary stuff and I wonder if they'll be the same team after the break.
Good article from CHN this week: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2016/12/14_team_of_the_week_princeton.php
Union really taking it to Vermont. 6-2 now with less than 10 minutes to go. That first line is the best in the country.
Quote from: IcebergUnion really taking it to Vermont. 6-2 now with less than 10 minutes to go. That first line is the best in the country.
The second game of the set is streaming for free this afternoon.
http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/university-of-vermont/
Quote from: martyQuote from: IcebergUnion really taking it to Vermont. 6-2 now with less than 10 minutes to go. That first line is the best in the country.
The second game of the set is streaming for free this afternoon.
http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/university-of-vermont/
Thanks, Union wins 2-1 on a late goal.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: martyQuote from: IcebergUnion really taking it to Vermont. 6-2 now with less than 10 minutes to go. That first line is the best in the country.
The second game of the set is streaming for free this afternoon.
http://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/university-of-vermont/
Thanks, Union wins 2-1 on a late goal.
Which moved Union to 5 on the pairwise, Vermont to 16 and Cornell to 14. Vermont couldn't get the puck past Sakellaropoulos. They outplayed Union for most of the game to no avail.
OK. That's (http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/post/womens-hockey/2016-2017/) a power outage.
Quote from: TrotskyOK. That's (http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/post/womens-hockey/2016-2017/) a power outage.
They would've scored more if they hadn't had so many Posts. ::bolt::
Quote from: TrotskyOK. That's (http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/post/womens-hockey/2016-2017/) a power outage.
Just how did you find this.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyOK. That's (http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/post/womens-hockey/2016-2017/) a power outage.
Just how did you find this.
Drunkard's walk through the internet, as usual.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyOK. That's (http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/post/womens-hockey/2016-2017/) a power outage.
They would've scored more if they hadn't had so many Posts. ::bolt::
You can't hit the Posts...no checking in women's hockey ::dribble::.
Brown and Arizona State played a vintage 1979 game (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20161230/brn/asu/) last night.
The team formerly known as Sioux are at Union and live on TW Cable at this moment. Currently the visitors are ahead 1-0 late in the first.
I think this is the first Capital District hockey game that TW-Spectrum has broadcast this season.
ND wins after a fun end of game flurry with an extra attacker goal making it 2-1, followed by a truly lucky bounce off the boards from the ND zone that trickled into the Union net just ahead of a frantic J. C. Brassard.
ND can now celebrate the new year in Schenectady!?$@#?!
::drunk::
Quote from: martyND wins after a fun end of game flurry with an extra attacker goal making it 2-1, followed by a truly lucky bounce off the boards from the ND zone that trickled into the Union net just ahead of a frantic J. C. Brassard.
ND can now celebrate the new year in Schenectady!?$@#?!
::drunk::
P.S. A truly sold out Messa Rink with a deep SRO crowd surprised me. But classes start on the 3rd which surely helped with the attendance.
Quote from: TrotskyBrown and Arizona State played a vintage 1979 game (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/box/final/20161230/brn/asu/) last night.
I didn't know they played 3x3 overtime in 1979 ::yark::
Quote from: martyQuote from: martyND wins after a fun end of game flurry with an extra attacker goal making it 2-1, followed by a truly lucky bounce off the boards from the ND zone that trickled into the Union net just ahead of a frantic J. C. Brassard.
ND can now celebrate the new year in Schenectady!?$@#?!
::drunk::
P.S. A truly sold out Messa Rink with a deep SRO crowd surprised me. But classes start on the 3rd which surely helped with the attendance.
I was at that game- full house it was, but I didn't see much of a student presence, seemed to be almost entirely locals. There was an impressive UND contingent, they travel well.
I don't think they spent New Years Eve in Sctdy. Game was over about 6:30. If they got right on the bus they would be in NYC by 10 and fly home from there Sunday about noon. I'd do
that. ::banana::
Quote from: TimVQuote from: martyQuote from: martyND wins after a fun end of game flurry with an extra attacker goal making it 2-1, followed by a truly lucky bounce off the boards from the ND zone that trickled into the Union net just ahead of a frantic J. C. Brassard.
ND can now celebrate the new year in Schenectady!?$@#?!
::drunk::
P.S. A truly sold out Messa Rink with a deep SRO crowd surprised me. But classes start on the 3rd which surely helped with the attendance.
I was at that game- full house it was, but I didn't see much of a student presence, seemed to be almost entirely locals. There was an impressive UND contingent, they travel well.
I don't think they spent New Years Eve in Sctdy. Game was over about 6:30. If they got right on the bus they would be in NYC by 10 and fly home from there Sunday about noon. I'd do that. ::banana::
I wonder how the Union box office sold the student season tickets to the townies. I'm impressed. Kathy Natole, the ticket sales manager is a very hard working woman who once bailed me out when I realized I lost my mailed tickets before one of the games. It seems like it would be a lot of work to transfer student tickets to townies.
were the students tickets even part of the their season ticket package? perhaps they gave them a choice to buy it or not in the beginning?
Quote from: martyI wonder how the Union box office sold the student season tickets to the townies. I'm impressed. Kathy Natole, the ticket sales manager is a very hard working woman who once bailed me out when I realized I lost my mailed tickets before one of the games. It seems like it would be a lot of work to transfer student tickets to townies.
No idea how it was done in this case but I know how UVM handled it back in the 80s- I Might be off on a detail or two per ba memory but the gist of it is correct. Student season tickets did *not really* include games over thanksgiving or Christmas break.
-Students did not buy those games with the season package. Instead, they had first dibs on those tickets. If a student wanted their seats for a break game, they just had to get to the ticket office and buy their specific seats anytime up until about 2 weeks prior to those games.
-At that ~2week prior mark, those seats were put up for sale to the general public.
Certainly as of the early 80s this resulted in sellouts een over break as locals scooped up all the extra tickets.
Union up 4-3 in the 3rd at BU, albeit a BU without seven of its best players thanks to the junior tournament.
Edit: BU wins 5-4 in OT.
Tigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
Quote from: martyTigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
Duluth ties the game with the goalie pulled, OT ends in a tie but the the second OT starts with 4 on 3 play (not 3 on 3) due to a tripping penalty at 3:32 of the first OT. Duluth gets the extra point scoring 18 seconds in.
The announcers explained that if the kill was successful the play would have been 4 on 4 at "full strength" moving to 3 on 3 at the first whistle.
Big controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Anyone at the game, watched it on ILDN, or heard anything from the CT press?
I can't remember an instance when I saw a coach kicked out for that, but it's probably just my bad memory.
I've decided not to go tonight, so someone please bring papers and feel free to bring Snickers. :) :-)
Quote from: martyTigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
By Tigers, you mean CC, not Princeton. Had to go check, based on the thread topics.
Quote from: Jim HylaBig controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Those highlights don't show his pyrotechnics. Did he say the magic words, or did he actually have physical contact with the officials? If the latter that sounds like Suspension City.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: martyTigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
By Tigers, you mean CC, not Princeton. Had to go check, based on the thread topics.
Yes, CC with back to back results that could be a turning point in their season. A tie vs #1 is impressive in spite of Duluth outplaying them in the third and the two OTs.
Quote from: Jim HylaHe was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
I'm not sure. I could see this going either way.
Watching it the first time, at full-speed, I thought the puck just went in off the H player's stationary skate.
Watching it a few times in slow motion, it is clear that the H player's skate moves in the direction of the goal and does, in fact, direct the puck in, but I don't think it was "a kicking motion." I think the player was trying to get leverage to turn and attempt to shoot the puck in. In his attempt to get leverage, his skate did contact the puck, the result being the goal. I just don't think there was "a kicking motion", and I think the player genuinely did not intend to kick the puck in.
It's definitely a close call.
Quote from: Jim HylaBig controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Anyone at the game, watched it on ILDN, or heard anything from the CT press?
I can't remember an instance when I saw a coach kicked out for that, but it's probably just my bad memory.
I don't know what the officials saw. To my eye, it is clear that the puck started toward the goal as a result of being propelled by #13's moving skate. However, it doesn't look to me as though he was trying to kick the puck in (the "distinct kicking motion" referred to in the rule book as being needed to invalidate a goal), but rather was trying to turn to face the goal and accidentally pushed the puck. I also can't tell whether or not his stick subsequently touched the puck in the crease just before it entered the net, the view being obscured by the goal post. He was trying to ensure that the puck went in by giving it a tap, and if he did touch it the goal was certainly good. My eye doesn't detect a change in direction of the puck as a result of possible stick contact, but I can't rule it out.
Quote from: Jim HylaBig controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Anyone at the game, watched it on ILDN, or heard anything from the CT press?
I can't remember an instance when I saw a coach kicked out for that, but it's probably just my bad memory.
Here (https://youtu.be/Y97v5g-yEqw) it is. Interesting is that Rand gets tossed before the play is reviewed. It is borderline but there was no way that with a close call like this and Pecknold already gone that it would be overturned.
I apologize for the video going in an out if HD. I think it is a combination of Windows, ILDN and the capture program causing agita in my i5 processor.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaBig controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Anyone at the game, watched it on ILDN, or heard anything from the CT press?
I can't remember an instance when I saw a coach kicked out for that, but it's probably just my bad memory.
Here (https://youtu.be/Y97v5g-yEqw) it is. Interesting is that Rand gets tossed before the play is reviewed. It is borderline but there was no way that with a close call like this and Pecknold already gone that it would be overturned.
I apologize for the video going in an out if HD. I think it is a combination of Windows, ILDN and the capture program causing agita in my i5 processor.
If I'm reviewing that, I call it a no goal. His foot is stationary, then juts towards the puck. That's enough of a kick for me.
But it's close enough to go either way, certainly.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaBig controversy at the Q @ H game last night. Pecknold was ejected and got a 2 min "Abuse of Officials" and 10 min Game Misconduct". That was the decisive play, as H scored 3 goals in 44 sec. He was protesting that H's first 5 on 3 goal was kicked in.
Here's the link to the ILDN highlights. (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/harvard/video/harvard-recap-mens-ice-hockey-vs-quinnipiac) The event starts around 26 sec. As much as I don't like Pecknold, when I watch it in slo-mo, I have to say I agree with him.
Anyone at the game, watched it on ILDN, or heard anything from the CT press?
I can't remember an instance when I saw a coach kicked out for that, but it's probably just my bad memory.
Here (https://youtu.be/Y97v5g-yEqw) it is. Interesting is that Rand gets tossed before the play is reviewed. It is borderline but there was no way that with a close call like this and Pecknold already gone that it would be overturned.
I apologize for the video going in an out if HD. I think it is a combination of Windows, ILDN and the capture program causing agita in my i5 processor.
Thanks for the full video clip. I think the officials were concentrating on whether he got his stick on the puck just before it went in. The overhead view was inconclusive, so the ruling on the ice was sustained.
Quote from: DafatoneIf I'm reviewing that, I call it a no goal. His foot is stationary, then juts towards the puck. That's enough of a kick for me.
But it's close enough to go either way, certainly.
You aren't viewing enough of the play if you think that. His foot was NOT stationary. His right foot/leg slide forward (away from the goal) and he gets up on the rearmost point of his blade with the foot in front of him. The skate then reverses and slides backwards (towards the goal) and deflects the puck in at the start of that motion.
The thing is, that motion is the most likely thing to do to retain his balance and turn towards the goal; skate went forward first, now it needs to go back. Exactly what the commentators say at ~4:30 in Marty's clip.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: martyTigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
By Tigers, you mean CC, not Princeton. Had to go check, based on the thread topics.
Princeton actually lost last night pretty bad to Dartmouth, although their struggles in Hanover are much worse than Cornell's. It probably has something to do with the tennis balls. Things won't be easier for them tonight.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneIf I'm reviewing that, I call it a no goal. His foot is stationary, then juts towards the puck. That's enough of a kick for me.
But it's close enough to go either way, certainly.
You aren't viewing enough of the play if you think that. His foot was NOT stationary. His right foot/leg slide forward (away from the goal) and he gets up on the rearmost point of his blade with the foot in front of him. The skate then reverses and slides backwards (towards the goal) and deflects the puck in at the start of that motion.
The thing is, that motion is the most likely thing to do to retain his balance and turn towards the goal; skate went forward first, now it needs to go back. Exactly what the commentators say at ~4:30 in Marty's clip.
If there's a kicking motion but it's unintentional, does that still count as a kick? You're right, he was trying to regain balance rather than put the puck in, but to me, he still pushes his skate into the puck. To me, getting away with no kicking motion means either not moving or gliding into the puck without any leg movement.
Quote from: DafatoneIf there's a kicking motion but it's unintentional, does that still count as a kick? You're right, he was trying to regain balance rather than put the puck in, but to me, he still pushes his skate into the puck. To me, getting away with no kicking motion means either not moving or gliding into the puck without any leg movement.
It's only no goal if there was intent to kick in. Incidental skate contact (as this was) or angling a skate (without a kick) to deflect a puck in, is fine.
This was one of the easier reviews for officials to handle that you will see. They know the rules.
EDIT: Besides, that wasn't a kicking motion in this scenario.
Quote from: NCAA RULES83.4 Goals Scored Off of Skates - A puck that is directed into the net by an
attacking player's skate shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct
kicking motion is evident. A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player
who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or
official. A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player's skate who
does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal.
The following should clarify deflections following a puck kicked by an
attacking player that enters the goal:
• A kicked puck that deflects off the body of any player of either team
(including the goalkeeper) shall be ruled no goal. The body refers to
anything other than a player's stick.
• A kicked puck that deflects off the stick of any player (excluding the
goalkeeper's stick) shall be ruled a good goal.
• A goal will be allowed when an attacking player kicks the puck and the
puck deflects off his own stick and then into the net.
A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks any equipment
(stick, glove, helmet, etc.) at the puck, including kicking the blade of his own
stick, causing the puck to cross the goal line. A puck that is batted into the net
by a hand or foot or deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player's
body is not a legal goal.
A goal shall be allowed if a puck deflects off an attacking player who is in
the act of stopping.
Quote from: martyQuote from: RichHQuote from: martyTigers puck luck continuing. Leading Duluth 2-1.
On CBS sports as I post.
By Tigers, you mean CC, not Princeton. Had to go check, based on the thread topics.
Yes, CC with back to back results that could be a turning point in their season. A tie vs #1 is impressive in spite of Duluth outplaying them in the third and the two OTs.
CC leading Duluth again after 2.
I was looking for articles concerning my recently departed cousin and found some vintage opponent news. (http://fultonhistory.com/highlighter/viewer/?file=http%3A%2F%2Ffultonhistory.com%2FNewspaper%252019%2FAlbany%2520NY%2520Knickerbocker%2520News%2FAlbany%2520NY%2520Knickerbocker%2520News%25201961%2FAlbany%2520NY%2520Knickerbocker%2520News%25201961%2520A%2520-%25202578.pdf&highlightsFile=http%3A%2F%2Ffultonhistory.com%2Fhighlighter%2Fhits%2F2856d579a22418aac1cafd3f6a691937#page=1)
Interesting article underneath about Dale Hall, Army football coach on the hotseat for losing 3 times to Navy. This year Army beat Navy for the first time in what? 14 years? Some things don't change.
A Harvard skate appeared to help direct the puck in and there was an attempted shot with the stick that got nothing but air, so it's possible the ref thought he saw the puck being directed in by the stick.
Who cares about the goal? The only thing I got out of this incident is reinforcement that Pecknold is the Hothead Asshat of the league's coaches and that Harvard can't find any broadcasters who don't sound like complete unknowledgable tools.
Quote from: RichHWho cares about the goal? The only thing I got out of this incident is reinforcement that Pecknold is the Hothead Asshat of the league's coaches and that Harvard can't find any broadcasters who don't sound like complete unknowledgable tools.
Is this news? :-P
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHWho cares about the goal? The only thing I got out of this incident is reinforcement that Pecknold is the Hothead Asshat of the league's coaches and that Harvard can't find any broadcasters who don't sound like complete unknowledgable tools.
Is this news? :-P
Not news at all. Just trying to recenter the thread so the important stuff doesn't get buried.
Princeton had 1,304 attendance for their last game. Capacity is 2,092. I suspect there will be seats available.
Quote from: TrotskyPrinceton had 1,304 attendance for their last game. Capacity is 2,092. I suspect there will be seats available.
I'm counting on it.
RPI G Chase Perry with 41 saves in the shutout of Harvard tonight. Also, their other G (and Cornell decommit) Cam Hackett has been indefinitely suspended by RPI for Unspecified Naughtiness (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/01/13_rpi_suspends_goalie_hackett.php).
Quote from: TrotskyRPI G Chase Perry with 41 saves in the shutout of Harvard tonight. Also, their other G (and Cornell decommit) Cam Hackett has been indefinitely suspended by RPI for Unspecified Naughtiness (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/01/13_rpi_suspends_goalie_hackett.php).
Seth Appert did say that whatever Hackett did, it was not illegal.
Quote from: TrotskyRPI G Chase Perry with 41 saves in the shutout of Harvard tonight. Also, their other G (and Cornell decommit) Cam Hackett has been indefinitely suspended by RPI for Unspecified Naughtiness.
It was a fun game to watch. A shorty goal with 0.6 sec left in the first and a ppg with 1.2 seconds left in the second were notable. Perry looked like he was stopping beach balls all night. Sucks switched sieves after two. Madsen certainly had a rough go.
You can watch Harvard skate circles around RPI in the second (for free) at RPITV.ORG. it may be a few days before the game is available for replay.
Quote from: abmarksIt's only no goal if there was intent to kick in.
There is no provision for this whatsoever. Intentional or not, if it's a kicking motion, it's not a good goal. The only provision is if the player is stopping and that's not what happened here.
Quote from: CowbellGuyQuote from: abmarksIt's only no goal if there was intent to kick in.
There is no provision for this whatsoever. Intentional or not, if it's a kicking motion, it's not a good goal. The only provision is if the player is stopping and that's not what happened here.
Is there a clip?
I couldn't tell from the replay what part of Jeff it went in off. I thought it might have hit him around the waist, but the announcers speculated first the skate and then later a glove. In the event it looked like he was braking as he moved toward the goal and the puck surprised him and just went in off his body. Not only did it not look like intent, it didn't even look as if he realized what had happened.
I wouldn't have been surprised either way so I naturally assumed the call would go against us. **]
Edit: Christ, never mind. I'm talking about Kubiak's no goal, not the Harvard goal. Wrong thread, wrong event, I really am getting old.
Quote from: CowbellGuyQuote from: abmarksIt's only no goal if there was intent to kick in.
There is no provision for this whatsoever. Intentional or not, if it's a kicking motion, it's not a good goal. The only provision is if the player is stopping and that's not what happened here.
You are part right and part wrong. I should not have used the word intent, you are correct there. The requirement is "a distinct kicking motion". However, you are wrong about the only provision being a player stopping; it is simply one clarifying example cited in the rules (IMO because it is not an uncommon occurrence for a player to be stopping in the crease after charging the net)
Per the rulebook (which I posted earlier in this thread)
NCAA RULES
83.4 Goals Scored Off of Skates - A puck that is directed into the net by an
attacking player's skate
shall be a legitimate goal as long as no distinct
kicking motion is evident. It says only that it cannot be a distinct kicking motion. The player can be spinning in circles like a figure skater and it would be a good goal. Or, as in the gola discussed in the thread, the player was clearly getting his balance and moved his foot to a natural balance point. It wasn't a kicking motion at all.
A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player
who kicks a puck that deflects into the net off any player, goalkeeper or
official.
A puck that deflects into the net off an attacking player's skate who
does not use a distinct kicking motion is a legitimate goal. The following should clarify deflections following a puck kicked by an
attacking player that enters the goal:
• A kicked puck that deflects off the body of any player of either team
(including the goalkeeper) shall be ruled no goal. The body refers to
anything other than a player's stick.
• A kicked puck that deflects off the stick of any player (excluding the
goalkeeper's stick) shall be ruled a good goal.
• A goal will be allowed when an attacking player kicks the puck and the
puck deflects off his own stick and then into the net.
A goal cannot be scored by an attacking player who kicks any equipment
(stick, glove, helmet, etc.) at the puck, including kicking the blade of his own
stick, causing the puck to cross the goal line. A puck that is batted into the net
by a hand or foot or deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player's
body is not a legal goal.
A goal shall be allowed if a puck deflects off an attacking player who is in
the act of stopping.OK, there is the stopping example. But it's a clarification, not an entire listing. An example not cited is this: PLayer A is stopped motionless just above the crease. PLayer B shoots the puck at PLayer A and it banks in off his skate. That's a good goal.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: CowbellGuyQuote from: abmarksIt's only no goal if there was intent to kick in.
There is no provision for this whatsoever. Intentional or not, if it's a kicking motion, it's not a good goal. The only provision is if the player is stopping and that's not what happened here.
Is there a clip?
Even though I realize that Trotsky was talking about a different goal, here is the Harvard score (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y97v5g-yEqw&feature=youtu.be) for those that missed it. There is some comedy value as Pecknold is tossed for complaining to the refs who then review the goal after his ejection.
Harvard blows leads of 2-0 and 4-3 to lose at Dartmouth 4-7.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard blows leads of 2-0 and 4-3 to lose at Dartmouth 4-7.
Wait till it's over 8-4
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyHarvard blows leads of 2-0 and 4-3 to lose at Dartmouth 4-7.
Wait till it's over 8-4
I'm confused. It's not a Monday in February yet.
And Harvard's loss drops them to 12 and moves us to 11th in PWR. Would've been unfathomable just a few days ago that we would now be ahead of them in Pairwise
Quote from: scoop85And Harvard's loss drops them to 12 and moves us to 11th in PWR. Would've been unfathomable just a few days ago that we would now be ahead of them in Pairwise
Wasn't it UNO who was sitting at #2 in PWR at the break last year and failed to make the tournament?
Dartmouth has got to be the most inconsistent team ever. It seems to be the same thing with them every year--middle through the regular season and get an unexpected victory here or there.
Quote from: scoop85And Harvard's loss drops them to 12 and moves us to 11th in PWR. Would've been unfathomable just a few days ago that we would now be ahead of them in Pairwise
I guess there is still a lot of volatility, particularly for Ivies with only 16 games or so.
2 to 12 in two weeks is bad, but I wonder what happened to us over the end of January, early February last year?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85And Harvard's loss drops them to 12 and moves us to 11th in PWR. Would've been unfathomable just a few days ago that we would now be ahead of them in Pairwise
I guess there is still a lot of volatility, particularly for Ivies with only 16 games or so.
2 to 12 in two weeks is bad, but I wonder what happened to us over the end of January, early February last year?
I would expect Harvard's loss to RPI to be pretty damaging.
RPI scored on a PP to lead 1-0 after one in the exhibition game at the TU center. And they just won the robo-hockey game in the intermission.
As of late Thursday evening we are now up to #10 in PWR
Quote from: martyAnd they (RPI) just won the robo-hockey game in the intermission.
Quote from: abmarksAs of late Thursday evening we are now up to #10 in PWR
I had no idea a robo-hockey game would have that much of an effect on pairwise... :)
I am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
Quote from: BearLoverI am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
I assume you mean in a one-goal game, but Doug Derraugh is pretty aggressive about pulling the goalie when down by two. (And I feel like this is becoming more common in general.)
Quote from: BearLoverI am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
Credit Patrick Roy and the 2013-14 Colorado Avalanche
Quote from: LGR14Quote from: BearLoverI am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
Credit Patrick Roy and the 2013-14 Colorado Avalanche
You're right! I certainly remember now. Here's a good article (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nhl-coaches-are-pulling-goalies-earlier-than-ever/) on how more teams are following suit.
Quote from: BearLoverI am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
Seth Appert does it also, although it never seems to work.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: BearLoverI am no fan of Rand Pecknold, but have to hand it to him: he's the only coach I've seen at any level ballsy enough to make the mathematically superior decision of pulling his goalie with 3 minutes left instead of the usual 1 or 1:30 remaining.
Seth Appert does it also, although it never seems to work.
But does anything seem to work for him?::burnout::
IIRC a few years ago one of the directional Michigan U's, or perhaps UNO, tried to play most or all of the third period with the G pulled in a game they were far behind. It didn't work, although the damage wasn't too bad -- like 2 goals per side or something of that nature.
IMO you pull the goalie with as many mins left as you are behind.
part of me thinks, that the better you are at controlling power plays the more aggressive you can be at pulling the goalie, if you can win faceoffs and not lose the puck pasing it in the zone you can take more chances.
given chances if avg Ds will get chances for a score to ice the game.
I do wonder why teams dont get more aggressive when they get late PP and dont always pull the goalie.
Quote from: upprdeckI do wonder why teams dont get more aggressive when they get late PP and dont always pull the goalie.
Because the defender can ice with impunity.
Quote from: TrotskyIIRC a few years ago one of the directional Michigan U's, or perhaps UNO, tried to play most or all of the third period with the G pulled in a game they were far behind. It didn't work, although the damage wasn't too bad -- like 2 goals per side or something of that nature.
IMO you pull the goalie with as many mins left as you are behind.
2015 NCAA Tournament - Miami was down 6-2 to Providence and pulled the goalie with almost 13 minutes left. Miami scored 3 times to make it 6-5 before Providence finally scored an empty-netter.
Dartmouth getting blown out by Union in Hanover. At least they have the Winter Carnival.
Northern Michigan's Tolvanen Earns 5th Straight Shutout; Closes In On Coveted Record (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/02/12_tolvanen_records_5th_straight.php).
Pretty amazing.
Quote from: Jim HylaNorthern Michigan's Tolvanen Earns 5th Straight Shutout; Closes In On Coveted Record (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/02/12_tolvanen_records_5th_straight.php).
Pretty amazing.
Too bad they haven't kept records for consecutive saves made. Sounds like he could already have that.
The dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
RPI captures the NYC market? Um...
Quote from: ursusminorThe dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
RPI captures the coveted
NYC Capital District market home to the
Albany River Rats...
Albany Devils...Albany ?'s. But more importantly the league rounds out its nerd factor as the Freshman Engineers fulfill the coveted "Calculus Distribution (http://homepages.rpi.edu/~symans/advising/Fall%202013%20Academic%20Advising%20Meeting%20%233.pdf)" requirement.::stupid::
Quote from: martyQuote from: ursusminorThe dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
RPI captures the coveted NYC Capital District market home to the Albany River Rats...Albany Devils...Albany ?'s. But more importantly the league rounds out its nerd factor as the Freshman Engineers fulfill the coveted "Calculus Distribution (http://homepages.rpi.edu/~symans/advising/Fall%202013%20Academic%20Advising%20Meeting%20%233.pdf)" requirement.::stupid::
You live there, so you probably know more than I do, but RPI doesn't even own the CD market currently, having lost it to Union. We are probably capable of getting it back, but NYC is ridiculous. There is a vacancy in the HEA that would fit better, but I don't think that there is serious interest there either.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyQuote from: ursusminorThe dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
RPI captures the coveted NYC Capital District market home to the Albany River Rats...Albany Devils...Albany ?'s. But more importantly the league rounds out its nerd factor as the Freshman Engineers fulfill the coveted "Calculus Distribution (http://homepages.rpi.edu/~symans/advising/Fall%202013%20Academic%20Advising%20Meeting%20%233.pdf)" requirement.::stupid::
You live there, so you probably know more than I do, but RPI doesn't even own the CD market currently, having lost it to Union. We are probably capable of getting it back, but NYC is ridiculous. There is a vacancy in the HEA that would fit better, but I don't think that there is serious interest there either.
I don't think there is a significant (hockey) sports market in the tri-city region. I have no answer regarding the empty seats for the Cornell at Union game on the 3rd. The turn out at the Mayor's Cup TU Center game was ok considering the Thursday night slot but disappointing compared to prior years. Regional turnout here has been less than I expect as a college hockey fan. The ECAC left town because of dwindling attendance (and a payoff from the Atlantic City competitor).
I'd rather get off my butt, see some friends and drink some barely acceptible coffee during my regular trips to Houston Fieldhouse but many former season ticket holders disagree.
?I don't understand!?!?
Quote from: ursusminorThe dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
This is one of the dopiest things I've seen lately outside of the Trump White House :-P
When I first read this, I thought that the ECAC had to find a new team. Finishing behind RPI this season is a reason to fold. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/Akhockey01/status/836588186826485760
ECAC Hockey suspends Rensselaer's Tironese one game for spearing penalty versus Colgate. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/02/27/ecac-hockey-suspends-rensselaers-evan-tironese-one-game-for-spearing-penalty-versus-colgate/)
Too bad they couldn't have seen a tape of Union from our game.
Appert is out at RPI. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/03/06_rpi_fires_coach_seth_appert.php)
I wonder if Brendan Whittet will go soon too.
Gaudet is another one to watch. He's an alum and well-liked, and Dartmouth doesn't care whether they are competitive, so he can probably stay as long as he wants, but his son has graduated and he's closing in on his 30th year as a coach with a lifetime 50+ games under .500, and they cratered this year.
Fun fact: Gaudet has 181 fewer losses than Jerry York. And 648 fewer wins.
Don Vaughn, too. 25 years at 'Gate, now coming off back-to-back .324 seasons (the worst during his tenure).
Coach Kyle Dismissed at Northern Michigan. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/03/10_kyle_dismissed_at_northern.php)
In the comment section; "seth appert (FSU alum) will replace him...".
Kyle Charged With Felonies; Attorney: 'Entirely Innocent' (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/03/10_kyle_charged_with_felonies;.php).
Not being a lawyer and obviously not knowing all the facts, the defense attorney gives a good argument.
Quote from: Jim HylaCoach Kyle Dismissed at Northern Michigan. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/03/10_kyle_dismissed_at_northern.php)
In the comment section; "seth appert (FSU alum) will replace him...".
Kyle Charged With Felonies; Attorney: 'Entirely Innocent' (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/03/10_kyle_charged_with_felonies;.php).
Not being a lawyer and obviously not knowing all the facts, the defense attorney gives a good argument.
Finally a topic that doesn't require knowledge of advanced analytics :-).
Kyle's attorneys statement is interesting and paints a plausible picture. The one thing though that I find peculiar is that Kyle allegedly acted under the Power of Attorney to sign the mortgage documents. While it is certainly legal to do so, it is unusual to use a POA in this context. Typically a lender will want both borrower's to sign in their own capacity, precisely to avoid a later claim that the agent exceeded his authority. I wonder what circumstance could have occured that would have rendered Kyle's wife unable to sign the mortgage documents at a time convenient for her? But apparently supporting Kyle's claim is that the issue was raised during the matrimonial action and his wife's argument was rejected there. If so, it greatly weakens the prosecution's position in the criminal case.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: ursusminorThe dumbest idea yet. ::rolleyes::
https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/831895344833245184
This is one of the dopiest things I've seen lately outside of the Trump White House :-P
But this is an extremely high bar to use when measuring dopiness. Moreover, it's a moving target with a feedback loop, also known as the dopiness accelerator.
Clarkson junior Sam Vigneault (12-24-36) signs early (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/16/clarkson-forward-sam-vigneault-forgoes-senior-year-inks-nhl-deal-with-columbus/) with Columbus.
John Hayden, Yale senior, is already playing with the Blackhawks, but still trying to finish his coursework. http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20170320/sports/170329863/
UMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
Quote from: Jim HylaUMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
I had never heard of this award.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
I had never heard of this award.
I hadn't either until the college hockey press began lapping up anything Jimmy Vesey did on his way to an undeserved (IMO) career achievement version of the Hobey.
"In the final voting, Gambardella won by a slight margin over Northeastern senior forward Zach Aston-Reese, also of Staten Island..."
Who knew Staten Island was such a hockey hotbed?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
I had never heard of this award.
Why would you, unless you were an American born New Englander?
Reminds me of that old BC "we're better than you, because we're all Americans." None of those Canadians.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
I had never heard of this award.
"presented annually to the best American-born college hockey player in New England. The nation's oldest nationally-recognized college hockey honor..."
What does "nationally-recognized" even mean? And of course this doubly-exclusionary award is from New England. You have to be born here AND play in this one specific region. Ah, Boston provincialism. I'm sure you get bonus votes the closer your house is to Beacon Street.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaUMass Lowell's Gambardella selected 65th Walter Brown Award winner. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/03/22/umass-lowells-joe-gambardella-selected-65th-walter-brown-award-winner/)
I had never heard of this award.
"presented annually to the best American-born college hockey player in New England. The nation's oldest nationally-recognized college hockey honor..."
What does "nationally-recognized" even mean? And of course this doubly-exclusionary award is from New England. You have to be born here AND play in this one specific region. Ah, Boston provincialism. I'm sure you get bonus votes the closer your house is to Beacon Street.
There's a reason they call them Mass-Holes.
what's with the triggering and butt-hurt?
This group is pretty clear about there mission- it's not exclusionary, it's local. THe statement about nationally recognized etc may we ll be hyperbole, but who cares about that?
Quote from: official websiteWelcome to the Gridiron Club of Greater Boston
Welcome to the official "Gridiron Club of Greater Boston" website. We have been Keepers of the Flame of Boston sporting tradition for over 75 years. Founded in 1932, the Gridiron Club promotes the game of football at all levels and nurtures the ideals of citizenship, sportsmanship, leadership, and athletic and academic achievement. Through its annual dinners and golf tournament, the club carries on its tradition of honoring exemplary players, coaches and officials at all levels of sport.
And it's a charity FFS
QuoteOur Mission
The Gridiron Club supports worthy causes and charities as carries on its tradition of honoring exemplary players, coaches and officials at all levels of sport.
Proceeds from the first-ever Gridiron Club Dinner, held in the darkest days of the Great Depression, assisted those in financial need. That event spawned a series of annual events that have raised funds for many charities and causes, which customarily are suggested by our award nominees and approved by the Board of Directors.
Organizations supported by the Gridiron Club in recent years include the Italian Home for Children, United Cerebral Palsy of the North Shore, the Massachusetts State Hospital School for Children, the Miami Project to Cure Paralysis, the Ron Burton Training Center, the Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Tenacity Sports, Temple Sinai of Sharon, the Black Educators' Alliance of Massachusetts, the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, Seven Hills Foundation, Kennedy-Donovan Center, South Norfolk Association for Retarded Citizens, the Inner City Scholarship Fund, and the Joslin Diabetes Centers of Boston and Syracuse.
Quote from: abmarkswhat's with the triggering and butt-hurt?
Whoa, there. I think you could answer that as well.
Quoteit's not exclusionary, it's local.
Hey, that's a great new slogan for Boston tourism ads! ;-) ;-) ;-)
QuoteAnd it's a charity FFS
Yeah, so is the Friar's Club, but that doesn't mean it exists for a reason other than the exclusive club atmosphere and the dirty jokes.
Quote from: CU2007"In the final voting, Gambardella won by a slight margin over Northeastern senior forward Zach Aston-Reese, also of Staten Island..."
Who knew Staten Island was such a hockey hotbed?
Aston-Reese was Hockey East POTY.
Quote from: RichHYeah, so is the Friar's Club, but that doesn't mean it exists for a reason other than the exclusive club atmosphere and the dirty jokes.
and your point? The Friar's club is a great institution.
Quote from: abmarkswhat's with the triggering and butt-hurt?
This group is pretty clear about there mission- it's not exclusionary, it's local. THe statement about nationally recognized etc may we ll be hyperbole, but who cares about that?
Quote from: official websiteWelcome to the Gridiron Club of Greater Boston
Welcome to the official "Gridiron Club of Greater Boston" website. We have been Keepers of the Flame of Boston sporting tradition for over 75 years. Founded in 1932, the Gridiron Club promotes the game of football at all levels and nurtures the ideals of citizenship, sportsmanship, leadership, and athletic and academic achievement. Through its annual dinners and golf tournament, the club carries on its tradition of honoring exemplary players, coaches and officials at all levels of sport.
Keepers of the flame, honoring Americans who fit our sporting tradition.
I think I'm very sensitive to this as I had to live through all the crap that CU teams, predominately Canadians, received back in the day. That's why I mentioned the BC issue. For those who don't know, BC used to be only Americans, and proud of it. Proud to the effect of badmouthing our Canadians. It probably wont ever leave me.
In fact I even get annoyed, when at games like at LP, something comes up about the Olympics and the crowd goes wild with USA, USA... Doing it right in front of our Canadian players. As I said, I'll probably never get over it.
I think I speak for all* of us when I say fuck Massachusetts, fuck Massholes, fuck the T, fuck the Hatch Shell, fuck the Pike, fuck Storrow Drive, fuck the Red Sox, fuck their pink capped fans, fuck the Patriots, fuck their bandwagon fans, fuck the Afflecks, fuck the worst accent on the planet, fuck the ugliest population in the gene pool, fuck Mattapan, fuck Nahant, fuck West Rox, fuck DAW-chest-a, fuck Brockton, fuck Charleston (but not the Chews), fuck Southies with a rusty rake, and wicked fuck Bostonians.
* And if not, fuck you too.
Now then. Let's go Red.
Well, fuck you too!! As a history buff, Boston is my favorite place to visit.. The Dead Sox, Patriots, especially Tom "fuckface" Brady do suck!!! Nothing personal, Greg... I just LOVE Boston!!!
Quote from: TrotskyI think I speak for all* of us when I say fuck Massachusetts, fuck Massholes, fuck the T, fuck the Hatch Shell, fuck the Pike, fuck Storrow Drive, fuck the Red Sox, fuck their pink capped fans, fuck the Patriots, fuck their bandwagon fans, fuck the Afflecks, fuck the worst accent on the planet, fuck the ugliest population in the gene pool, fuck Mattapan, fuck Nahant, fuck West Rox, fuck DAW-chest-a, fuck Brockton, fuck Charleston (but not the Chews), fuck Southies with a rusty rake, and wicked fuck Bostonians.
* And if not, fuck you too.
Now then. Let's go Red.
Jealousy/envy doesn't look good on you.
Though you got one right: f the Afflecks
It is possible to take even the best of intentions too far, even awards for excellence and community pride. Expressions of the worst of intentions are becoming increasingly common and increasingly tedious.
Union suffers a blow as Spencer Foo (a junior) is leaving to pursue professional opportunities. Without Foo, Vechionne, Taylor or Skardopolous, hard to see Union as a top-4 team in the league next year.
Quote from: scoop85Union suffers a blow as Spencer Foo (a junior) is leaving to pursue professional opportunities. Without Foo, Vechionne, Taylor or Skardopolous, hard to see Union as a top-4 team in the league next year.
Good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Union suffers a blow as Spencer Foo (a junior) is leaving to pursue professional opportunities. Without Foo, Vechionne, Taylor or Skardopolous, hard to see Union as a top-4 team in the league next year.
Good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac).
+!
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: scoop85Union suffers a blow as Spencer Foo (a junior) is leaving to pursue professional opportunities. Without Foo, Vechionne, Taylor or Skardopolous, hard to see Union as a top-4 team in the league next year.
Good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac).
+!
Reported on Ch6 WRGB tonight - Nick Desimone is leaving Union for the San Jose Barracuda. The flying Dutchmen appear to be leaving a sinking ship.
::cheer::
Discontent among hockey alums (http://www.troyrecord.com/general-news/20170330/rpi-hockey-alumni-express-dismay-over-state-of-current-program)
RPI Search and Nanne gone (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170327/rpi-turns-to-firm-with-little-hockey-experience-for-coach-search)
Quote from: martyDiscontent among hockey alums (http://www.troyrecord.com/general-news/20170330/rpi-hockey-alumni-express-dismay-over-state-of-current-program)
RPI Search and Nanne gone (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170327/rpi-turns-to-firm-with-little-hockey-experience-for-coach-search)
Sounds like if the Troy Record was delivered to the RPI administration in a flaming bag of poop it would be more welcome these days. ::popcorn::
A shame that program has fallen so far off TPTB radar. Cornell doesn't give a huge commitment to hockey, but it beats that shitshow. Ralph has my sympathy. ::uhoh::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyDiscontent among hockey alums (http://www.troyrecord.com/general-news/20170330/rpi-hockey-alumni-express-dismay-over-state-of-current-program)
RPI Search and Nanne gone (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170327/rpi-turns-to-firm-with-little-hockey-experience-for-coach-search)
Sounds like if the Troy Record was delivered to the RPI administration in a flaming bag of poop it would be more welcome these days. ::popcorn::
A shame that program has fallen so far off TPTB radar. Cornell doesn't give a huge commitment to hockey, but it beats that shitshow. Ralph has my sympathy. ::uhoh::
Thanks.
Of course, it is conceivable that this is Fake News. :-P
Quote from: martyDiscontent among hockey alums (http://www.troyrecord.com/general-news/20170330/rpi-hockey-alumni-express-dismay-over-state-of-current-program)
RPI Search and Nanne gone (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170327/rpi-turns-to-firm-with-little-hockey-experience-for-coach-search)
The academic issue surfaces (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170401/on-the-record-rpi-hockeys-struggles-come-down-to-money-and-academics)
There is a Times Union story in today's edition, too. It is currently behind their pay wall. I will likely be able to post it later in the week. It is a kinder, gentler version of the first story posted above.
All over twitter that Dave Smith from Canisius is the new RPI coach
Quote from: scoop85All over twitter that Dave Smith from Canisius is the new RPI coach
Here's the CHN article (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/04/03_Smith-to-be-Named-Head-Coach.php) and the Schenectady Gazette (https://dailygazette.com/article/2017/04/03/rpi-to-name-canisius-smith-as-men-s-hockey-coach) articles. I couldn't find a Troy Record article.
With Harvard, Union, and Cornell, as well as Clarkson, Yale, and Q, losing a massive amount of talent to graduation/early departures, I would imagine the ECAC will be relatively weak next year. Harvard will still have Donato, Fox, and Madsen, so they look to be the favorite, but if the Red's D can stay healthy I don't think our opponents are going to score many goals. St. Lawrence will also likely be a popular top-four pick due to them returning the best goalie in the league.
Red Berenson has retired at 77 from Michigan; he was head coach since 1984. The replacement is Mel Pearson, who was a Michigan assistant for 23 years then head coach at Michigan Tech the last six.
http://www.uscho.com/2017/04/24/former-michigan-assistant-mel-pearson-returns-to-succeed-red-berenson-as-wolverines-head-coach/
Had Ned Harkness stuck with Cornell that long, he would have been head coach through 1996. And then could have turned things over to Mike Schafer.
Harvard has a clear and significant recruiting advantage over the rest of the ECAC: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/04/24_USA-Hockey-Announces-2017-18.php
Still waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
Quote from: BearLoverStill waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
You've told us this at least 500 times. I think that's 499 times too many.
Quote from: BearLoverHarvard has a clear and significant recruiting advantage over the rest of the ECAC: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/04/24_USA-Hockey-Announces-2017-18.php
Still waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
The simplest solutions involve throwing Harvard out of ECACHL or we could leave. I think it would be easier for Cornell to leave and a la NCHC a new league would be formed. Since the goal is to crown Cornell as the defacto leader of this movement/group we at eLynah are faced with the task of picking the other schools. My nominations for those schools are the AAAA teams of Alaska, Alaska, AIC and Alabama, along with the alphabetically challenged Sacred Heart.
I propose the league be called the GOHIC. The Gorge Out Hockey Ice Conference. It would segue perfectly with the progressive idea concerning beer sales (https://www.thestreet.com/story/12530195/1/ncaas-march-madness-beer-policy-fools-no-one.html) at NCAA events. I can hear the chant from the Lynah faithful as we cheer our team at the Albany Times Union Center league championship series.
Go, Go, Go Hic !! ::drunk::
How 'bout this: We leave, form a new conference with us, RPI, Miami, BU, Wisconsin, and Sacred Heart.
We could call it the Big, Red Hockey Conference (note the comma). ::whistle::
maybe we should be more people to donate money so that the Hockey team had a recruiting budget so they could go get the kids they need?
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: BearLoverStill waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
You've told us this at least 500 times. I think that's 499 times too many.
One time for every time someone on here has said the opposite. ::bang::
Quote from: BearLoverStill waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
When you're on the open water, you can't really tell that your boat is up.
I'll make a guess that Cornell would not have received its at-large bid without having strong teams in our conference. All of our OOC opponents finished with a record below .500, and we went 5-2 in those games. The highest-ranked team we played on our OOC schedule finished at #30. **They did not make the tournament because of OOC opponents.** They made the tournament because they were able to play 15 games vs. teams in the top 25, ALL IN-LEAGUE, and they came out of it with a winning record in those games. That's why the at-large bid was in play at all, and if they were in a AHA-level league, they're on the outside of the at-large bubble.
That has always been my argument, and I don't understand how this isn't apparent to you, even after a season like this.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverStill waiting for that rising tide to lift Cornell's boat...
When you're on the open water, you can't really tell that your boat is up.
I'll make a guess that Cornell would not have received its at-large bid without having strong teams in our conference. All of our OOC opponents finished with a record below .500, and we went 5-2 in those games. The highest-ranked team we played on our OOC schedule finished at #30. **They did not make the tournament because of OOC opponents.** They made the tournament because they were able to play 15 games vs. teams in the top 25, ALL IN-LEAGUE, and they came out of it with a winning record in those games. That's why the at-large bid was in play at all, and if they were in a AHA-level league, they're on the outside of the at-large bubble.
That has always been my argument, and I don't understand how this isn't apparent to you, even after a season like this.
Our league wasn't particularly great this year--we had three of the worst teams in the country. Going like 20-7-4 overall was what got us into the tournament, not going slightly over .500 vs. the top-25. But that's beside the point, because all of this is priced into the PWR--the same PWR that put us into the NCAAs in, for instance, 2002 and 2006, when our conference stunk (also see in 1996/1997, where we probably never could have won our tournament had we been forced to face the Harvards and Yales of today). My point remains that Cornell wins the ECAC less, makes the NCAA less, and gets the same or worse recruits than it did when the ECAC stunk. We got crushed in our NCAA game--a worse performance in the tournament than we ever had when the conference was bad. OTOH, we're coming off a good year and the future looks relatively bright. Anyway, it's my fault for bringing this up again. **]
A step up (http://deadspin.com/former-penn-state-hockey-player-cited-for-peeing-on-two-1794687263) from raping kids, anyway. Baby steps.
Quote from: TrotskyA step up (http://deadspin.com/former-penn-state-hockey-player-cited-for-peeing-on-two-1794687263) from raping kids, anyway. Baby steps.
Special kind of Penn State skills competition for distance and accuracy. I'm seeing a special Nittany Lion punchline - Ugarte, work with me here - that pulls a multiple pun on 'golden showers'
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyA step up (http://deadspin.com/former-penn-state-hockey-player-cited-for-peeing-on-two-1794687263) from raping kids, anyway. Baby steps.
Special kind of Penn State skills competition for distance and accuracy. I'm seeing a special Nittany Lion punchline - Ugarte, work with me here - that pulls a multiple pun on 'golden showers'
Sounds like the work of the left-handed Klodover Mohel (https://books.google.com/books?id=VN5kFuQQ7lsC&pg=PA222&lpg=PA222&dq=joke+two+jewish+men+at+urinals&source=bl&ots=1IpmJelZGj&sig=f9uIpXelBJH9LdFKNoMegWK7Swo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiavJaEo8rTAhXFJCYKHVbaCq4Q6AEIQDAH#v=onepage&q=joke%20two%20jewish%20men%20at%20urinals&f=false).
No one has posted this recent item (https://dailygazette.com/article/2017/04/26/union-college-investigating-lewd-scavenger-hunt) about what happened in Schenectady.::whistle::
I'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident (http://wibx950.com/student-with-glue-gun-causes-lockdown-at-colgate-university/) at Lynah.
Quote from: TrotskyI'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident (http://wibx950.com/student-with-glue-gun-causes-lockdown-at-colgate-university/) at Lynah.
Sounds like a sticky situation. :-D
....I'll be here all week folks. Please tip your waitperson.
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: TrotskyI'm sure there will be absolutely no reference to this incident (http://wibx950.com/student-with-glue-gun-causes-lockdown-at-colgate-university/) at Lynah.
Sounds like a sticky situation. :-D
....I'll be here all week folks. Please tip your waitperson.
This is a stick up!::wank::
Adam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/05/03_QA-With--RPI-Coach-Dave.php) Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".
Nice read.
Quote from: Jim HylaAdam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/05/03_QA-With--RPI-Coach-Dave.php) Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".
Nice read.
I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.
It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaAdam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/05/03_QA-With--RPI-Coach-Dave.php) Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".
Nice read.
I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.
It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.
Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'
But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaAdam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/05/03_QA-With--RPI-Coach-Dave.php) Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".
Nice read.
I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.
It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.
Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'
But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.
I agree. Maybe I should have said "If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it wasn't a completely asinine idea." :-)
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaAdam talks to Dave Smith about RPI and the process of the search. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/05/03_QA-With--RPI-Coach-Dave.php) Nice discussion and if it's all true, it looks like the RPI search process was fine. They talk about the hockey alumni "issue".
Nice read.
I would not expect him to give a negative opinion about the search process in his position. If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it was a good idea.
It is good to hear that he ahs contacted some alumni who were dissatisfied.
Of course I don't ever expect any kind of negative in this type of interview. However it seemed like he was being very descriptive about why he thought they were good. He could have just said, "I thought they were very thorough in the way they researched me.'
But I think you're sort of correct that if we see other schools doing the same, it might show that this is a good idea. Following along doesn't always mean it's a good idea.
I agree. Maybe I should have said "If other schools hire the same company in the next couple of years, it would mean it wasn't a completely asinine idea." :-)
5-12-17 Troy Record (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170511/an-update-on-rpi-hockey-1-month-into-dave-smiths-tenure)
CHN has a very nice feature: coaching changes (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/coach-changes.php) going back to the beginning of the NC$$ era, 1948.
You too can now win a bar bet: who was the coach who replaced God when he left RPI for Cornell?
Answer: Rube Bjorkman. The fuck is Rube Bjorkman?
WHO the fuck is he? Well, I just learned he's the only North Dakota coach to never win a title or make the tournament in the modern era. Minnesota grad. Hmmm.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/history/north-dakota/mens-hockey/2016-2017/
Quote from: RichHWHO the fuck is he? Well, I just learned he's the only North Dakota coach to never win a title or make the tournament in the modern era. Minnesota grad. Hmmm.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/history/north-dakota/mens-hockey/2016-2017/
He's no Cliff (Fido) Purpur, that's for sure.
Note the USCHO coaching history for North Dakota shows the team nickname at the time, not as it stands now. Including years when it officially had none. http://www.uscho.com/stats/history/north-dakota/mens-hockey/2016-2017/
Quote from: billhowardNote the USCHO coaching history for North Dakota shows the team nickname at the time, not as it stands now. Including years when it officially had none. http://www.uscho.com/stats/history/north-dakota/mens-hockey/2016-2017/
I also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.
Quote from: TrotskyCHN has a very nice feature: coaching changes (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/coach-changes.php) going back to the beginning of the NC$$ era, 1948.
You too can now win a bar bet: who was the coach who replaced God when he left RPI for Cornell?
Answer: Rube Bjorkman. The fuck is Rube Bjorkman?
Snarl! Mr. Carpetbagger himself.
Quote from: RichHI also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.
I'm shocked it's not the other way. Not only because it's a GREAT sweater, but for the general Middle Finger attitude of the Sioux fanbase.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHI also noted on the UND team page on CHN that the old Sioux jerseys are marked down from $160 to $30 on the Amazon ad.
I'm shocked it's not the other way. Not only because it's a GREAT sweater, but for the general Middle Finger attitude of the Sioux fanbase.
Plus the inevitable "collector's item" caché.
Andrew Tavener has transfered (http://www.uscho.com/2017/06/09/arizona-state-adds-quinnipiac-transfer-andrew-taverner-who-will-be-eligible-in-18-19/) from Q to ASU.
ARod, Hackett and 2 others dropped from RPI Roster (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170621/ncaa-ice-hockey-rpi-removes-hackett-rodriguez-rappaport-mcbain-from-roster)
Quote from: martyARod, Hackett and 2 others dropped from RPI Roster (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170621/ncaa-ice-hockey-rpi-removes-hackett-rodriguez-rappaport-mcbain-from-roster)
What a mess
Quote from: martyARod, Hackett and 2 others dropped from RPI Roster (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170621/ncaa-ice-hockey-rpi-removes-hackett-rodriguez-rappaport-mcbain-from-roster)
IMHO, Rodriguez is the only one of those four who will be a loss, and he hardly produced in two years. Incoming freshman Linden Marshall on paper is better than Hackett, and the other two (McBain and Rappaport) did not play at all.
As to Nanne, the injuries severely limited him, and he probably decided that he would be better off as a small-e engineer than being forever compared to his grandfather.
Melanson's departure after getting a degree in the three years was set in motion by disagreement as to how he was used by Seth Appert. When he got an offer from BU it must have seemed better than RPI even with a new coach at RPI. I suspect that he will fit in at BU.
Supposedly Bradley Bell has also left. He also had trouble finding a place in the lineup, either as a defenseman or a forward.
Without a Peer post on RPI's team next season. (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2017/06/whats-this-team-look-like.html) BTW, it looks like Tom won't be posting his Know Your Enemy articles this offseason.
Is Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.
Quote from: TrotskyIs Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.
It hasn't been revealed, but reading between the lines, it doesn't appear to have been academic issues.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyIs Hackett just academic issues? We seem to have dodged a bullet, there.
It hasn't been revealed, but reading between the lines, it doesn't appear to have been academic issues.
I agree with both of you. The articles published at the time of the suspension seemed to indicate a disagreement or conflict with Appert.
USCHO list (http://www.uscho.com/2017-nhl-draft-college-rankings-and-selections/) of all NC$$ draftees.
Quote from: TrotskyUSCHO list (http://www.uscho.com/2017-nhl-draft-college-rankings-and-selections/) of all NC$$ draftees.
Harvard, with two third- and one fourth-round pick, continues to recruit by far the best talent in the ECAC.
I guess news about opponents' women's teams also belongs here.
RPI fired John Burke who has coached the team since the D-3 days. http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20170624/rpi-fires-womens-hockey-coach-john-burke-why-now-what-does-it-mean The RPI AD stated that he fired Burke now as opposed to earlier since he was busy with the men's hockey coach replacement. As has been said elsewhere, the ability to multitask is apparently not a qualification to be the RPI AD. Also this doesn't explain why he still waited over two months after Dave Smith was named the new men's coach.
https://twitter.com/RPIAthletics/status/879751017876901889
RPI's third straight women's head coach who had been a men's AC.
This article on Ryan Donato brings up an issue that I really hadn't thought about. Scituate's Ryan Donato waits for his turn. (http://www.patriotledger.com/sports/20170707/bruins-scituates-ryan-donato-waits-for-his-turn)
With the NHL not allowing their players to play for the Olympics this winter, some very good college players may lose some of the season, playing in the Olympics. Since it's right at the end of the regular season, Feb. 9-25, it could have a significant impact on some teams.
We'll have to see who gets selected.
Olympic teams train for several months; college players who make the cut would likely take a leave of absence from school for the spring semester, if not the entire year. This obviously isn't true in sports that use pro athletes but it is for other sports. Rebecca Johnston is a good example; she took a leave the first time she made the Canadian team.
Quote from: dag14Olympic teams train for several months; college players who make the cut would likely take a leave of absence from school for the spring semester, if not the entire year. This obviously isn't true in sports that use pro athletes but it is for other sports. Rebecca Johnston is a good example; she took a leave the first time she made the Canadian team.
Members of the 88-89 NC$$ champion Harvard team took the 87-88 year off to train and play in the Olympics: Lane MacDonald and Allen Bourbeau.
https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2017/8/25/16158860/an-early-look-at-the-2017-18-ecac-hockey-season-harvard-quinnipiac-yale-union
Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.
Quote from: CU2007https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2017/8/25/16158860/an-early-look-at-the-2017-18-ecac-hockey-season-harvard-quinnipiac-yale-union
Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.
On the same SBN College Hockey / ECAC subsite, a whoopsie (https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2017/8/30/16227198/vegas-nhl-nick-campoli-headed-back-junior-hockey-clarkson-georgetown-raiders-ojhl-sioux-falls-ushl) for a Clarkson not-ready-for-primetime player.
SLU's Hayton Makes Official His Move to Wisconsin (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/09/01_Hayton-Makes-Official-His.php)
and the USCHO article. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/09/01/st-lawrence-goalie-kyle-hayton-officially-transfers-to-wisconsin-as-graduate-transfer/)
Here's SLU's news release. (http://www.saintsathletics.com/news/2017/9/1/mens-ice-hockey-hayton-graduates-will-enroll-in-wisconsin-mba-program.aspx?path=mhockey)
Obviously a major loss for SLU. They have a Junior, Brey. It looks like he started 2 games, losing to Wisc. and winning Canisius, with mop up in 2 others. A current Soph, Mannella, who mopped up 1 game and in-coming Frosh, Gray – Austin, Texas – 5-11, 175 lbs – Goaltender
"Gray joins the Saints goaltending corps after spending last season with the OJHL's Toronto Patriots. In 30 appearances he made 28 starts with 1743:36 minutes played, posted a 15-14-0 record, a 2.99 goals-against average and .914 save percentage. He also had a 2.84 goals against and .917 save percentage in four playoff appearances (1-3-0)."
The funny thing about that is the fact that St. Lawrence has two games in Wisconsin this upcoming season and Hayton would likely be starting against his old team twice.
In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if St. Lawrence were fighting for home ice near the end of the season. Even with Hayton, they haven't exactly been a top-tier team the past few years.
Quote from: Jim HylaSLU's Hayton Makes Official His Move to Wisconsin (https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/09/01_Hayton-Makes-Official-His.php)
and the USCHO article. (http://www.uscho.com/2017/09/01/st-lawrence-goalie-kyle-hayton-officially-transfers-to-wisconsin-as-graduate-transfer/)
Here's SLU's news release. (http://www.saintsathletics.com/news/2017/9/1/mens-ice-hockey-hayton-graduates-will-enroll-in-wisconsin-mba-program.aspx?path=mhockey)
Obviously a major loss for SLU. They have a Junior, Brey. It looks like he started 2 games, losing to Wisc. and winning Canisius, with mop up in 2 others. A current Soph, Mannella, who mopped up 1 game and in-coming Frosh, Gray – Austin, Texas – 5-11, 175 lbs – Goaltender
"Gray joins the Saints goaltending corps after spending last season with the OJHL's Toronto Patriots. In 30 appearances he made 28 starts with 1743:36 minutes played, posted a 15-14-0 record, a 2.99 goals-against average and .914 save percentage. He also had a 2.84 goals against and .917 save percentage in four playoff appearances (1-3-0)."
Looks at article.
Looks at predictions page.
Mutters expletive.
Pulls up Expression Web.
Quote from: CU2007https://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2017/8/25/16158860/an-early-look-at-the-2017-18-ecac-hockey-season-harvard-quinnipiac-yale-union
Brief preview of the ECAC. Not a great write-up by any means, but a decent read for the end of August.
You must be a traditionalist who wants verbs in most sentences -- "Starting with reigning ECAC Champs and Frozen Four participant, the Harvard Crimson." Note writer Nick Beaudoin's status per the story's author bio: broadcast/journalism major at Quinnipiac.
I suppose it would be time to revive this topic since other teams have meaningful games this weekend? It's too early to really tell anything yet but Clarkson did take out Penn State yesterday.
Last night
Merrimack 1 @ Colgate 2
Penn State 1 @ Clarkson 2
Quinnipiac 1 @ Boston College 1 OT
Union 3 @ Michigan Tech 6
Michigan 3 @ St. Lawrence 1
Does anyone know why Colgate plays so many Saturday afternoon games? It could be my imagination but they seem to have more than their share of these.
Peewees have the rink reserved for 7?
Quote from: martyDoes anyone know why Colgate plays so many Saturday afternoon games? It could be my imagination but they seem to have more than their share of these.
Peewees have the rink reserved for 7?
This year I see as Saturday afternoon games Niagara, Arizona State (Family Weekend), Dartmouth, and AT Army, all at 4:00 PM. We had Ottawa at 5:00 PM. Could it be that they are sufficiently isolated that ASU needed some extra time to get home?
Quote from: martyDoes anyone know why Colgate plays so many Saturday afternoon games? It could be my imagination but they seem to have more than their share of these.
Peewees have the rink reserved for 7?
That way the games overlap with dinner, so the students can eat their free pizza at the correct time.
There is no joy in Canton (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120454-St-Lawrence-Skating-Saints-17-18).
Best Comment:
QuoteI had a free ticket to last Saturday's game and I am mad at the guy who gave it to me.
Quote from: TrotskyThere is no joy in Canton (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120454-St-Lawrence-Skating-Saints-17-18).
And the daggers are already out for Morris after, what, one and a third seasons? Pretty impatient considering his past results, if you ask me.
It's taken Casey quite a while to right the ship at Clarkson. The SLUsers would do well to consider Morris the same kind of long-term hire. Whatever one might think of his reputed interpersonal skills or lack thereof, the guy wins. And, if I remember correctly, he knows how to run a clean program.
SLU is in a bad place right now. They lost some talent to graduation after last season but I don't think too many people expected them to be swimming in the toilet of the conference. They obviously have some offensive ability but have only won one game (a OOC in Wisconsin...go figure) since their season started in early October.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyThere is no joy in Canton (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120454-St-Lawrence-Skating-Saints-17-18).
And the daggers are already out for Morris after, what, one and a third seasons? Pretty impatient considering his past results, if you ask me.
People here commit suicide when we give up a goal and call for Schafer's head after every loss.
People are fucking stupid.
Quote from: IcebergSLU is in a bad place right now. They lost some talent to graduation after last season but I don't think too many people expected them to be swimming in the toilet of the conference. They obviously have some offensive ability but have only won one game (a OOC in Wisconsin...go figure) since their season started in early October.
Somewhere I also read that they have had quite a few injuries.
One thing we have in our favor is Colgate. Picked to finish 11th in the league, now Colgate is looking like it will be playing in March. Having a tough travel partner is an asset.
Quote from: IcebergSLU is in a bad place right now. They lost some talent to graduation after last season but I don't think too many people expected them to be swimming in the toilet of the conference. They obviously have some offensive ability but have only won one game (a OOC in Wisconsin...go figure) since their season started in early October.
Everyone is forgetting they lost the ECAC GOTY, Kyle Hayton. He was not expected to leave and didn't announce till the summer, when SLU couldn't easily replace him.
They currently have the
worst GAA and worst SV% in the league. Last year with Hayton they were third in GAA and
first in SV%.
Last year they scored 2.81 GPG and
GAA was 2.24.
This year they scored 2.00 GPG and
GAA is 3.96.
In a nutshell, that's it.
In contrast, Colgate's goalie Colton Point is playing out of his mind (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1718/national/d1m).
1.16 .962 Cgt So Colton Point
1.32 .942 Cor Fr Matt Galajda
1.58 .945 Clk So Jake Kielly
Fun fact: Google Translate thinks http://www.collegehockeystats.net is written in Maltese.
Quote from: TrotskyIn contrast, Colgate's goalie Colton Point is playing out of his mind (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1718/national/d1m).
1.16 .962 Cgt So Colton Point
1.32 .942 Cor Fr Matt Galajda
1.58 .945 Clk So Jake Kielly
Fun fact: Google Translate thinks http://www.collegehockeystats.net is written in Maltese.
wish i'd read this before posting basically the same thing in another thread
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyIn contrast, Colgate's goalie Colton Point is playing out of his mind (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1718/national/d1m).
1.16 .962 Cgt So Colton Point
1.32 .942 Cor Fr Matt Galajda
1.58 .945 Clk So Jake Kielly
Fun fact: Google Translate thinks http://www.collegehockeystats.net is written in Maltese.
wish i'd read this before posting basically the same thing in another thread
You were smart enough take a screen shot rather than retyping it all. :-)
How did you include that? I didn't realize you could upload your own image here -- or did you upload it someplace else and then just reference the URL of the image?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: IcebergSLU is in a bad place right now. They lost some talent to graduation after last season but I don't think too many people expected them to be swimming in the toilet of the conference. They obviously have some offensive ability but have only won one game (a OOC in Wisconsin...go figure) since their season started in early October.
Somewhere I also read that they have had quite a few injuries.
According to their USCHO thread (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?120454-St-Lawrence-Skating-Saints-17-18), they are so short-handed right now they are calling up a guy from their club team.
Quote from: TrotskyHow did you include that? I didn't realize you could upload your own image here -- or did you upload it someplace else and then just reference the URL of the image?
The vertical arrow is how you use an image URL (don't do this for sites that ordinarily don't have much traffic); the horizontal arrow is how you upload an image.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyHow did you include that? I didn't realize you could upload your own image here -- or did you upload it someplace else and then just reference the URL of the image?
The vertical arrow is how you use an image URL (don't do this for sites that ordinarily don't have much traffic); the horizontal arrow is how you upload an image.
Got it. Thanks.
Quote from: ugartedon't do this for sites that ordinarily don't have much traffic
Beg pardon?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartedon't do this for sites that ordinarily don't have much traffic
Beg pardon?
It is a resource drain to the other site if you link the image instead of uploading a new version; every time this page loads, it would ping the source.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugartedon't do this for sites that ordinarily don't have much traffic
Beg pardon?
It is a resource drain to the other site if you link the image instead of uploading a new version; every time this page loads, it would ping the source.
Oh. Thank you.
Some OOC games that could be of significance down the road--Harvard in Minnesota for 2 games and RPI hosting Notre Dame for 2 games. So far, the ECAC (for the most part) has done decently in OOC games and many more will happen within the next month.
Quote from: IcebergSome OOC games that could be of significance down the road--Harvard in Minnesota for 2 games and RPI hosting Notre Dame for 2 games. So far, the ECAC (for the most part) has done decently in OOC games and many more will happen within the next month.
I'm not expecting miracles in Troy. But RPI does look better with Smith at the helm. It would be fun to see them pull an upset - they don't have the talent to win a fight with the Irish.
I hope I'm wrong. It will be fun people watching those with ND jerseys in either case.
Notre Dame up 2-0 after 1 against RPI.
Quote from: TrotskyNotre Dame up 2-0 after 1 against RPI.
RPI is fighting like Irish but guns are empty and ND has a great D. PK is near perfect. Engineers did kill a major 15 sec into the 2nd and minor with 4 left in 2nd but that's it.
Still 2-0 after 2.
And Minnesota is up 3-0 in the 2nd, so there goes the "help" for today.
Quote from: IcebergAnd Minnesota is up 3-0 in the 2nd, so there goes the "help" for today.
ECAC page messing with us again. It initially had the score as 2-0 Harvard, then "updated" it to 4-0 Minny. Maybe Donato had another tantrum and they assessed his team -2 goals.
Tonight's second half of the Hahvahd @ Minnesota double will be on TV, on Fox Sports North "Plus" (as was last night's, apparently). No idea how to get that channel; it certainly isn't in our FiOS package.
Quote from: BeeeejTonight's second half of the Hahvahd @ Minnesota double will be on TV, on Fox Sports North "Plus" (as was last night's, apparently). No idea how to get that channel; it certainly isn't in our FiOS package.
Fox Sports Go app lists this game along with a replay today at 2 of what I assume was yesterday's game. Android Playstore rating for this app is poor.
You need a valid cable sign-in to access the video content.
While downloading this on Android do not update the CHNews app without a backup of the prior version. I had all sorts of forced close issues with the 320 version yesterday. Reverted to 315 late last night.
Quote from: martyQuote from: BeeeejTonight's second half of the Hahvahd @ Minnesota double will be on TV, on Fox Sports North "Plus" (as was last night's, apparently). No idea how to get that channel; it certainly isn't in our FiOS package.
Fox Sports Go app lists this game along with a replay today at 2 of what I assume was yesterday's game. Android Playstore rating for this app is poor.
You need a valid cable sign-in to access the video content.
...which presumably means that you need a valid sign-in for a cable package that already includes the channel anyway.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: martyQuote from: BeeeejTonight's second half of the Hahvahd @ Minnesota double will be on TV, on Fox Sports North "Plus" (as was last night's, apparently). No idea how to get that channel; it certainly isn't in our FiOS package.
Fox Sports Go app lists this game along with a replay today at 2 of what I assume was yesterday's game. Android Playstore rating for this app is poor.
You need a valid cable sign-in to access the video content.
...which presumably means that you need a valid sign-in for a cable package that already includes the channel anyway.
I'm sure you are right. I pay for extra sports channels including Fox college channels. Last night featured Maine over BU from Orono.
At 2pm FCSP with P for Pacific is showing last night's goofer-sucks replay on my cable package.
Sucks is out shot in the 3rd, let's a goal in with 5 minutes left after being up 1-0 for more than half the game and loses in OT on the penalty kill.
They were out shot 49-16 for the game.
Quote from: martySucks is out shot in the 3rd, let's a goal in with 5 minutes left after being up 1-0 for more than half the game and loses in OT on the penalty kill.
They were out shot 49-16 for the game.
Musta thought it was the NCAAs.
Harvard on its way to another pseudo-NC$$ loss to BC.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard on its way to another pseudo-NC$$ loss to BC.
4-4 final. Harvard ties it late and outshoots BC 32-21 at BC.
Colgate up 2-1 at Western Michigan but there's still two periods left. And Union/North Dakota starts in about 30 minutes.
Clarkson 2-0 RPI
Hvd 4-4 BC
Princeton 4-1 Bemidji
U Mass 2-1 Q
W Mich 5-3 'gate
Miami 6-3 BG
U 4-1 N Dak
Niagara 3-1 AIC
Canisius 4-3 Army
M Tech 5-4 UAH
Quote from: Jim HylaW Mich 5-3 'gate
Once again, Colton Point is not invulnerable. I think our home-and-home with Colgate in mid-January is going to be pivotal.
RPI loses to Maine by 1 on the consolation in Northern Ireland.
Quote from: martyRPI loses to Maine by 1 on the consolation in Northern Ireland.
It was 4-2. There was am ENG.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyRPI loses to Maine by 1 on the consolation in Northern Ireland.
It was 4-2. There was am ENG.
And Clarkson beats Providence by the same score. It wasn't that close. PU got the first goal. Clarkson the next 4 and PU got 1 in the third, but got outshot by Clarkson in the third.
With the win Clarkson ties for first in PWR.::banana::::dribble::
Quote from: Jim HylaWith the win Clarkson ties for first in PWR.::banana::::dribble::
Shhhh! Don't tell Bearlover!!!
Yale seemingly about to get shutout at home by UNH while QU is again losing to UMass. A few ECAC teams have played decently OOC but overall it's pretty bad so far.
Quote from: Jim HylaWith the win Clarkson ties for first in PWR.::banana::::dribble::
And Harvard is 47th!?!?
Also catching my eye: Dartmouth has only played six games so far.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win Clarkson ties for first in PWR.::banana::::dribble::
Shhhh! Don't tell Bearlover!!!
You'll be sad to know that Clarkson is the ECAC team whose success I can tolerate the most. Them and RPI.
Dartmouth just gave up 6 goals in Princeton...and that's only during the 1st period.
Quote from: IcebergDartmouth just gave up 6 goals in Princeton...and that's only during the 1st period.
a) Moment of silence for Bob Gaudet.
b) Dartmouth probably did better in periods 2 and 3 by going with six skaters.
This will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/12/06_St-Lawrence-Hires-Firm-to.php
According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.
Quote from: RichHThis will probably need its own thread soon, but the bottom just fell out of an opponent's season. Anyone who thought SLU's struggles couldn't get any worse was mistaken.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/12/06_St-Lawrence-Hires-Firm-to.php
According to Adam's story, it's more allegations about Mark Morris again.
If it is true I wonder if players could sue the university given Morris' prior firing from Clarkson for the same actions? Something something scorpion frog.
Yikes, going to be tough to recruit with that cloud hanging over the program. Could be lingering impacts for years.
Quote from: CU2007Yikes, going to be tough to recruit with that cloud hanging over the program. Could be lingering impacts for years.
Easy solution to that...
QuoteOne, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
Free hockey stream at 7. RPI vs INN.
www.rpitv.org
Clarkson beats SLU, goes to 7-0-0 in conference.
Quote from: TrotskyClarkson beats SLU, goes to 7-0-0 in conference.
And could be 8-0-0 by the end of tonight.
No other games of major significance. However, it must be noted how badly QU and Dartmouth have been playing so far.
And Niagara dropped two to Canisius this weekend.
Quote from: Icebergit must be noted how badly ... Dartmouth [has] been playing so far.
How badly? Lost 5-1 to Bentley at home tonight.
And yet they tapped in 5 straight goals to beat #2 Denver