Not that it means anything this time of year, but here's what we have.
[b]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 10, 2016[/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (45) 2- 0-0 995 1
2 Boston University( 5) 1- 0-0 912 4
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac 1- 0-1 893 2[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth 2- 0-2 828 6
5 Notre Dame 2- 0-0 699 9
6 Boston College 1- 1-0 657 5
7 St. Cloud State 0- 0-0 654 7
8 Massachusetts-Lowell 0- 0-2 652 8
9 Minnesota 2- 0-0 571 13
10 Denver 0- 2-0 511 3
11 Providence 1- 1-0 443 10
[b][u]12 Harvard 0- 0-0 442 12[/u][/b]
13 Michigan 1- 1-0 412 11
14 Minnesota State 2- 0-0 354 19
[b][u]15 St. Lawrence 1- 1-0 255 16[/u][/b]
16 Northeastern 0- 1-1 248 15
[b][u]17 Yale 0- 0-0 208 18[/u][/b]
18 Air Force 1- 0-1 160 NR
19 Ohio State 1- 0-1 151 NR
20 Bowling Green 0- 2-0 63 14
Others receiving votes: Miami 59, Nebraska-Omaha 57, Bemidji State 48,
Penn State 47, [b][u]Cornell 38[/u][/b], [b][u]Clarkson 32[/u][/b], Maine 30, Western Michigan 21,
Connecticut 16, Michigan Tech 11, Rochester Institute of Technology 7,
Bentley 5, [b][u]Union 5[/u][/b], Wisconsin 5, Vermont 4, [b][u]Dartmouth 3[/u][/b], Ferris State 2, Holy Cross 2.
[b]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 10, 2016[/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of North Dakota 504 (28) 1 2-0-0
2 Boston University 457 (6) 3 1-0-0
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac University 441 2 1-0-1[/u][/b]
4 University of Minnesota Duluth 399 5 2-0-2
5 St Cloud State University 316 6 0-0-0
6 University of Notre Dame 308 8 2-0-0
7 UMass Lowell 303 7 0-0-2
8 University of Minnesota 242 11 2-0-0
9 Boston College 235 9 1-1-0
10 University of Denver 193 4 0-2-0
11 Providence College 178 10 1-1-0
[b][u]12 Harvard University 132 13 0-0-0[/u][/b]
13 University of Michigan 111 12 1-1-0
14 Northeastern University 82 14 0-1-1
15 Ohio State University 45 NR 1-0-1
Others receiving votes: Minnesota State University 42, [b][u]St. Lawrence University 41[/u][/b],
Air Force 21, [b][u]Yale University 19[/u][/b], Bowling Green State University 4,
University of Nebraska Omaha 4, Miami University 3.
[b]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 10, 2016[/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (14) 3- 0-1 149 1
[b][u]2 Quinnipiac ( 1) 4- 0-0 130 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 3- 1-0 123 2
4 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 0-1 91 6
5 Boston College 2- 1-1 75 5
[b][u]6 Colgate 4- 0-0 63 8
7 Clarkson 2- 1-1 51 4[/u][/b]
8 Bemidji State 3- 1-0 47 NR
[b][u]9 St. Lawrence 3- 0-1 45 NR[/u][/b]
10 North Dakota 2- 1-1 25 7
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Princeton 15[/u][/b], Boston University 11.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/#ixzz4Mj02D4kx
USA Women's Poll never comes out till Tuesday.
USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 17, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (50) 3- 0-0 1000 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 1-2 862 4
3 Notre Dame 3- 1-0 816 5
[b][u]4 Quinnipiac 2- 1-1 814 3[/u][/b]
5 Massachusetts-Lowell 2- 0-2 766 8
6 Denver 2- 2-0 710 10
7 Minnesota 2- 0-0 702 9
8 Boston University 1- 2-0 624 2
9 Minnesota State 4- 0-0 611 14
10 Boston College 2- 2-0 573 6
11 Michigan 2- 1-0 441 13
[b][u]12 St. Lawrence 3- 1-0 434 15
13 Harvard 0- 0-0 428 12[/u][/b]
14 St. Cloud State 0- 2-0 296 7
15 Providence 1- 2-0 255 11
[b][u]16 Yale 0- 0-0 207 17[/u][/b]
17 Northeastern 1- 1-2 185 16
18 Bemidji State 4- 0-0 170 NR
19 Ohio State 1- 0-2 157 19
20 Omaha 2- 0-0 105 NR
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan 82, Maine 75, Miami 38,
Air Force 31, Penn State 28, Holy Cross 25, [b][u]Cornell 17[/u][/b], Wisconsin 16,
Connecticut 10, Lake Superior 6, Army 5, [b][u]Clarkson 5, Dartmouth 3[/u][/b],
Bowling Green 2, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
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USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 17, 2016
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of North Dakota 510 (34) 1 3-0-0
2 University of Minnesota Duluth 435 4 3-1-2
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac University 396 3 2-1-1[/u][/b]
4 University of Notre Dame 392 6 3-1-0
5 UMass Lowell 361 7 2-0-2
6 University of Denver 316 10 2-2-0
7 University of Minnesota 298 8 2-0-0
8 Boston University 279 2 1-2-0
9 Minnesota State University 198 NR 4-0-0
10 Boston College 190 9 2-2-0
[b][u]11 Harvard University 145 12 0-0-0[/u][/b]
12 University of Michigan 133 13 2-1-0
[b][u]13 St Lawrence University 128 NR 3-1-0[/u][/b]
14 St Cloud State University 71 5 0-2-0
15 Providence College 54 11 1-2-0
Others receiving votes: Northeastern University 44, Ohio State University 39,
Bemidji State University 34, [b][u]Yale University 17[/u][/b], Penn State University 12,
University of Nebraska Omaha 11, Western Michigan University 11, University of Maine 3,
Lake Superior State University 1.
USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 17, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 5- 0-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 5- 1-0 133 3
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac 5- 1-0 115 2[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 2-1 93 4
[b][u]5 Colgate 4- 0-0 80 6[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 3- 2-1 62 5
[b][u]7 St. Lawrence 3- 0-1 56 9
8 Clarkson 2- 3-1 46 7[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 4- 1-1 31 10
10 Bemidji State 4- 2-0 30 8
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Princeton 14[/u][/b], Boston University 8,
Robert Morris 4, Ohio State 2, Mercyhurst 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4NQrctnTy
USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 24, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (50) 5- 0-0 1000 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 3- 1-2 905 2
3 Denver 4- 2-0 845 6
4 Boston University 3- 2-0 785 8
5 Massachusetts-Lowell 3- 1-2 746 5
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac 3- 2-1 725 4[/u][/b]
7 Notre Dame 3- 2-1 686 3
8 Boston College 4- 2-0 641 10
9 Minnesota State 5- 1-0 605 9
10 St. Cloud State 2- 2-0 499 14
11 Michigan 3- 1-1 484 11
12 Minnesota 2- 2-0 412 7
[b][u]13 Harvard 0- 0-0 374 13[/u][/b]
14 Providence 2- 2-1 320 15
15 Ohio State 3- 0-2 302 19
16 Northeastern 3- 1-2 254 17
[b][u]17 Yale 0- 0-0 207 16
18 St. Lawrence 3- 3-0 173 12[/u][/b]
19 Penn State 3- 1-1 129 NR
20 Bemidji State 4- 2-0 122 18
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan 73, Miami 69, Lake Superior 44,
[b][u]Clarkson 33, Cornell 15[/u][/b], Air Force 12, Maine 9, Omaha 9, [b][u]Union 8,[/u][/b]
Wisconsin 6, Connecticut 3, Vermont 3, [b][u]Dartmouth 1[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 1.
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 24, 2016
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of North Dakota 510 (34) 1 5-0-0
2 University of Minnesota Duluth 462 2 3-1-2
3 University of Denver 417 6 4-2-0
4 Boston University 377 8 3-2-0
5 UMass Lowell 355 5 3-1-2
6 University of Notre Dame 325 4 3-2-1
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac University 299 3 3-2-1[/u][/b]
8 Boston College 239 10 4-2-0
9 Minnesota State University 198 9 5-1-0
10 St Cloud State University 186 14 2-2-0
11 University of Michigan 178 12 3-1-1
12 University of Minnesota 124 7 2-2-0
[b][u]13 Harvard University 100 11 0-0-0[/u][/b]
14 Ohio State University 84 NR 3-0-2
15 Providence College 69 15 2-2-1
Others receiving votes: Northeastern University 50, Penn State University 37,
Lake Superior State University 16, [b][u]Yale University 14, St. Lawrence University 13[/u][/b],
[b][u]Union College 7[/u][/b], Bemidji State University 5, University of Connecticut 5,
Western Michigan University 5, Michigan Tech University 4, [b][u]Clarkson University 1[/u][/b].
USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 24, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 7- 0-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 7- 1-0 135 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth 4- 2-2 109 4
4 Boston College 4- 2-2 91 6
[b][u]5 Quinnipiac 5- 2-1 78 3
6 Colgate 5- 0-1 73 5
7 St. Lawrence 5- 0-1 72 7
8 Clarkson 4- 3-1 42 8
9 Princeton 2- 0-0 31 NR[/u][/b]
10 Bemidji State 4- 3-1 23 10
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 15, Northeastern 4, [b][u]Cornell 1[/u][/b], Ohio State 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4O3AIJ58T
The men are no longer even a mention.
USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
October 31, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (50) 5- 1-2 1000 2
2 Denver 6- 2-0 915 3
3 North Dakota 5- 2-0 909 1
4 Boston University 3- 2-0 829 4
5 Boston College 6- 2-1 765 8
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac 4- 2-1 726 6[/u][/b]
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 4- 2-2 685 5
8 St. Cloud State 4- 2-0 557 10
9 Notre Dame 4- 3-1 544 7
10 Minnesota State 6- 2-0 537 9
11 Ohio State 5- 0-2 509 15
[b][u]12 Harvard 2- 0-0 452 13[/u][/b]
13 Minnesota 3- 2-1 446 12
14 Penn State 5- 1-1 253 19
15 Providence 3- 3-1 247 14
[b][u]16 Yale 1- 0-0 223 17[/u][/b]
17 Michigan 3- 3-1 209 11
18 Bemidji State 6- 2-0 188 20
19 Vermont 4- 1-1 145 NR
[b][u]20 Union 6- 1-1 110 NR[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 88, Lake Superior 44,
Wisconsin 42, Omaha 25, [u][b]St. Lawrence 19[/b][/u], Miami 15,
[b][u]Dartmouth 6[/u][/b], Western Michigan 5, Air Force 4, Holy Cross 3.
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
October 31, 2016
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Minnesota Duluth 509 (33) 2 5-1-2
2 University of Denver 461 (1) 3 6-2-0
3 University of North Dakota 449 1 5-2-0
4 Boston University 398 4 3-2-0
5 Boston College 329 8 6-2-1
6 UMass Lowell 328 5 4-2-2
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac University 321 7 4-2-1[/u][/b]
8 St Cloud State University 256 10 4-2-0
9 University of Notre Dame 221 6 4-3-1
10 Minnesota State University 189 9 6-2-0
11 Ohio State University 184 14 5-0-2
[b][u]12 Harvard University 130 13 2-0-0[/u][/b]
13 University of Minnesota 125 12 3-2-1
14 Providence College 60 15 3-3-1
15 Penn State University 32 NR 5-1-1
Others receiving votes: [u][b]Union College 25[/b][/u], University of Michigan 14,
[b][u]Yale University 13[/u][/b], University of Vermont 11, Bemidji State University 9,
University of Wisconsin 7, Northeastern University 5,
University of Nebraska Omaha 3, Lake Superior State University 1.
USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
October 31, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 9- 0-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 9- 1-0 135 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth 6- 2-2 117 3
4 Boston College 6- 2-2 97 4
[b][u]5 Quinnipiac 7- 2-1 85 5
6 Colgate 7- 0-1 75 6
7 St. Lawrence 7- 0-1 70 7
8 Clarkson 6- 3-1 35 8[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 6- 3-1 30 NR
[b][u]10 Princeton 3- 0-1 28 9[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State 3.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4OhVYYlwA
USCHO does have a PWR. It's here, if anybody cares. (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/) We're last at 60/60. I guess they do it because they can, but really now.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll[/u][/b]
November 07, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (50) 7- 1-2 1000 1
2 Denver 6- 2-0 934 2
3 Boston College 8- 2-1 870 5
4 Boston University 4- 2-1 857 4
5 Massachusetts-Lowell 6- 2-2 763 7
6 North Dakota 5- 3-1 743 3
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac 5- 3-1 665 6[/u][/b]
8 Minnesota 4- 2-2 578 13
9 Notre Dame 4- 3-1 535 9
[b][u]10 Harvard 3- 0-1 512 12[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota State 7- 3-0 477 10
12 Penn State 7- 1-1 454 14
13 St. Cloud State 4- 4-0 445 8
14 Ohio State 5- 1-3 345 11
15 Bemidji State 8- 2-0 284 18
[b][u]16 Union 8- 2-1 208 20[/u][/b]
17 Providence 3- 3-2 193 15
18 Michigan 4- 3-1 180 17
[b][u]19 Yale 2- 1-0 167 16[/u][/b]
20 Lake Superior 6- 2-0 72 NR
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan 52, [b][u]St. Lawrence 51,[/u][/b]
Vermont 35, Northeastern 31, [b][u]Dartmouth 25[/u][/b], Holy Cross 8,
Omaha 8, Wisconsin 6, Air Force 1, Robert Morris 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll[/u][/b]
November 7, 2016
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Minnesota Duluth 510 (34) 1 7-1-2
2 University of Denver 466 2 6-2-0
3 Boston College 416 5 8-2-1
4 Boston University 410 4 4-2-1
5 UMass Lowell 358 6 6-2-2
6 University of North Dakota 338 3 5-3-1
7 University of Minnesota 256 13 4-2-2
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac University 250 7 6-3-1[/u][/b]
9 University of Notre Dame 203 9 4-3-1
[b][u]10 Harvard University 200 12 3-0-1[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota State University 152 10 7-3-0
12 Penn State University 141 15 7-1-1
13 St Cloud State University 122 8 4-4-0
14 Ohio State University 78 11 5-1-3
[b][u]15 Union College 69 NR 8-2-1[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State University 47, Providence College 16,
[b][u]Yale University 13, Dartmouth College 10[/u][/b], Lake Superior State University 9,
University of Michigan 9, Western Michigan University 5, University of Nebraska Omaha 2.
[url=http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/]It's meaningless, but here's the PWR page.[/url] We're #53.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll[/u][/b]
November 07, 2016
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 11- 0-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 11- 1-0 135 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth 6- 2-2 118 3
[b][u]4 St. Lawrence 9- 0-1 92 7
5 Colgate 10- 0-1 83 6[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 7- 3-2 73 4
[b][u]7 Clarkson 8- 3-1 70 8
8 Quinnipiac 7- 4-1 47 5[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 6- 3-1 35 9
[b][u]10 Princeton 3- 2-1 9 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Northeastern 5, Robert Morris 4,
Bemidji State 2, Boston University 1, [b][u]Cornell 1.[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4PMa3isNR
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 14, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (26) 7- 2-1 970 2
2 Minnesota-Duluth (18) 8- 2-2 949 1
3 Boston College ( 6) 10- 2-1 938 3
[b][u]4 Quinnipiac 7- 3-1 774 7[/u][/b]
5 Boston University 5- 3-1 769 4
6 Massachusetts-Lowell 7- 3-2 740 5
7 Minnesota 4- 2-2 657 8
8 North Dakota 5- 4-2 636 6
9 Notre Dame 5- 3-1 572 9
10 Penn State 9- 1-1 515 12
[b][u]11 Harvard 4- 1-1 491 10[/u][/b]
12 St. Cloud State 6- 4-0 436 13
13 Bemidji State 9- 2-1 431 15
14 Ohio State 6- 1-4 409 14
15 Minnesota State 7- 4-1 322 11
16 Michigan 5- 4-1 215 18
[b][u]17 Union 8- 3-2 182 16[/u][/b]
18 Western Michigan 6- 3-1 153 NR
19 Providence 3- 3-2 140 17
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 6- 4-2 70 NR[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Omaha 43, Vermont 36, Lake Superior 14,
Air Force 11, Wisconsin 8, [b][u]Clarkson 6[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 4, [b][u]Yale 4,[/u][/b]
Northeastern 3, Army 1, Robert Morris 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 14, 2016[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 492 (19) 2 7-2-1
2 Univer Minnesota Duluth 485 (13) 1 8-2-2
3 Boston College 449 (2) 3 10-2-1
4 Boston University 390 4 5-3-1
5 UMass Lowell 354 5 7-3-2
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac University 326 8 7-3-1[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota 292 7 4-2-2
8 University North Dakota 267 6 5-4-2
9 University Notre Dame 214 9 5-3-1
[b][u]10 Harvard University 192 10 4-1-1[/u][/b]
11 Penn State University 174 12 9-1-1
12 St Cloud State Univer 121 13 6-4-0
13 Ohio State University 103 14 6-1-4
14 Bemidji State Univer 102 NR 9-2-1
15 Minnesota State Univer 43 11 7-4-1
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan University 35, [b][u]Union College 15,[/u][/b]
Providence College 11, University of Michigan 10,
[b][u]St. Lawrence University 3[/u][/b], University of Nebraska Omaha 2.
[url=http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/]Still meaningless, but here's the PWR.[/url] We're up to 38t.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 14, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 11- 0-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 11- 1-0 134 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth 7- 2-3 113 3
[b][u]4 St. Lawrence 11- 0-1 107 4
5 Colgate 12- 0-1 85 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 9- 3-2 74 6
[b][u]7 Clarkson 10- 3-1 71 7
8 Quinnipiac 9- 4-1 39 8[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 6- 4-2 32 9
10 Northeastern 10- 3-1 12 NR
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 5, [b][u]Princeton 2[/u][/b], Bemidji State 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4Q1D5ETk9
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 21, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (48) 10- 2-2 996 2
2 Denver ( 2) 7- 2-3 950 1
[b][u]3 Quinnipiac 9- 3-1 859 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston College 10- 3-1 818 3
5 North Dakota 7- 4-2 731 8
6 Massachusetts-Lowell 8- 4-2 692 6
7 Boston University 6- 4-1 655 5
8 Penn State 11- 1-1 615 10
[b][u]9 Harvard 5- 1-1 610 11[/u][/b]
10 Bemidji State 11- 2-1 543 13
11 Minnesota 5- 3-2 537 7
12 Notre Dame 6- 4-2 507 9
13 Ohio State 8- 1-4 466 14
14 Minnesota State 8- 5-1 336 15
15 St. Cloud State 6- 6-0 234 12
16 Michigan 5- 4-1 218 16
[b][u]17 Union 8- 3-2 207 17[/u][/b]
18 Western Michigan 7- 3-2 201 18
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence 8- 4-2 176 20[/u][/b]
20 Vermont 7- 3-2 88 NR
Others receiving votes: Providence 25, Omaha 15,
Air Force 5, [b][u]Clarkson 5[/u][/b], Wisconsin 4, Connecticut 2,
Michigan Tech 2, Robert Morris 2, Lake Superior 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 14, 2016[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 492 (19) 2 7-2-1
2 Uni of Minnesota Duluth 485 (13) 1 8-2-2
3 Boston College 449 (2) 3 10-2-1
4 Boston University 390 4 5-3-1
5 UMass Lowell 354 5 7-3-2
[b][u]6 Quinnipiac University 326 8 7-3-1[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota 292 7 4-2-2
8 Univer of North Dakota 267 6 5-4-2
9 Univer of Notre Dame 214 9 5-3-1
[b][u]10 Harvard University 192 10 4-1-1[/u][/b]
11 Penn State University 174 12 9-1-1
12 St Cloud State Univer 121 13 6-4-0
13 Ohio State University 103 14 6-1-4
14 Bemidji State Univer 102 NR 9-2-1
15 Minnesota State Univer 43 11 7-4-1
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan University 35,
[b][u]Union College 15[/u][/b], Providence College 11, University of Michigan 10,
[b][u]St. Lawrence University 3,[/u][/b] University of Nebraska Omaha 2.
[url=http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/]PWR here, we're 37[/url]
After tying Q and beating Princeton, I thought the women might get a vote, but no.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 21, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (13) 12- 1-1 148 1
2 Minnesota 11- 1-2 130 2
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence ( 2) 13- 0-1 115 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth 8- 3-3 114 3
[b][u]5 Clarkson 12- 3-1 80 7[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 9- 3-3 72 6
7 North Dakota 6- 4-4 55 9
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 10- 4-2 45 8
9 Colgate 12- 2-1 43 5[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 10- 3-3 16 10
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Princeton 4[/u][/b], Robert Morris 3.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4QfOPPWuP
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
November 28, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (47) 10- 2-2 995 1
2 Denver ( 3) 9- 2-3 952 2
3 Boston College 11- 4-1 838 4
4 Massachusetts-Lowell 8- 4-2 790 6
[b][u]5 Quinnipiac 9- 4-2 755 3[/u][/b]
6 Boston University 7- 4-1 752 7
7 Penn State 11- 1-1 689 8
[b][u]8 Harvard 6- 2-1 604 9[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 7- 5-3 590 5
10 Ohio State 8- 1-4 539 13
11 Minnesota 6- 4-2 508 11
12 Notre Dame 7- 5-2 406 12
13 Bemidji State 11- 4-1 345 10
14 Vermont 9- 3-2 322 20
15 Minnesota State 8- 5-1 319 14
16 Western Michigan 7- 3-2 253 18
17 St. Cloud State 6- 6-0 224 15
[b][u]18 Union 8- 3-2 199 17
19 St. Lawrence 8- 4-4 160 19[/u][/b]
20 Michigan 6- 5-1 131 16
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Clarkson 59[/u][/b], Omaha 35, Michigan Tech 10, Air Force 8,
Providence 6, Northeastern 4, Lake Superior 3, [b][u]Dartmouth 2[/u][/b], Wisconsin 2.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
November 28, 2016[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 510 (34) 1 10-2-2
2 University of Denver 474 2 9-2-3
3 UMass Lowell 401 6 8-4-2
4 Boston College 387 3 11-4-1
5 Boston University 341 7 7-4-1
6 Penn State University 323 10 11-1-1
[b][u]7 Quinnipiac University 321 4 9-4-2
8 Harvard University 262 9 6-2-1[/u][/b]
9 University of Minnesota 220 8 6-4-2
10 Univer of North Dakota 214 5 7-5-3
11 Ohio State University 181 13 8-1-4
12 Univer of Notre Dame 116 11 7-5-2
13 Western Michigan Univer 79 NR 7-3-2
14 University of Vermont 74 NR 9-3-2
15 Minnesota State Univer 46 14 8-5-1
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State University 40, [b][u]St. Lawrence University 36[/u][/b],
[u][b]Union College 27,[/b][/u] St. Cloud State University 19, [b][u]Clarkson University 4[/u][/b],
University of Nebraska Omaha 4, University of Michigan 1.
[url=http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/]PWR here, we're moving up and at 26.[/url] Thank you Princeton.
I'll probably start posting the results sometime after 1/1.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
November 28, 2016[/u][/b]
Team First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (13) 14- 1-1 148 1
2 Minnesota 13- 1-2 130 2
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence ( 2) 15- 0-1 123 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth 10- 3-3 107 4
[b][u]5 Clarkson 13- 3-2 82 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 10- 3-3 80 6
[b][u]7 Colgate 14- 2-1 51 9
8 Quinnipiac 11- 4-3 42 8[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 7- 5-4 26 7
10 Northeastern 10- 4-3 16 10
Others receiving votes: Robert Morris 15, Boston University 5.
[url=http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/]Women's PWR is here and we're 13.[/url]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4RLKDLsly
Thought we at least deserved a vote this week, not that it matters...
17th in PWR with the Miami sweep.
Quote from: Trotsky17th in PWR with the Miami sweep.
16th as of 9:55 PM eastern or so, a per the CHN Go! app.
Quote from: CU2007Thought we at least deserved a vote this week, not that it matters...
We should get some votes this week. And the PWR may now be significant.:-D
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: CU2007Thought we at least deserved a vote this week, not that it matters...
We should get some votes this week. And the PWR may now be significant.:-D
Harvard is the only ECAC team comfortably in; there are a lot of teams hanging around the cut-line. U, Q and CU currently sitting at 14 15 16 with SLU tied for 17.
which is why OC games really matter..
harvard doing well the beanpot matters..
cornell not screwing up the florida tourney this year matters.
cornell might 2 more shots a merrimack now to to flip that PWR. strange we could play them in florida and then the following week too.
16 in PWR means we miss by one again..
Cornell works its way further up into the Also Getting Votes segment. Cornell women are 3 votes out of 10th place. http://www.uscho.com/rankings/
Look who's #3 in men's ranking. One more team Harkness, Bertrand et al didn't have to contend with.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 05, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (44) 10- 2-2 993 1
2 Denver ( 6) 11- 2-3 955 2
3 Penn State 13- 1-1 830 7
4 Boston College 12- 5-1 801 3
5 Boston University 8- 4-2 764 6
[b][u]6 Harvard 8- 2-1 737 8
7 Quinnipiac 10- 5-2 707 5[/u][/b]
8 North Dakota 8- 5-3 648 9
9 Massachusetts-Lowell 8- 5-3 632 4
10 Ohio State 9- 2-4 573 10
11 Minnesota 7- 5-2 476 11
12 Vermont 9- 3-2 406 14
13 Bemidji State 12- 5-1 348 13
14 Notre Dame 8- 6-2 339 12
[b][u]15 Union 10- 3-2 317 18[/u][/b]
16 Minnesota State 9- 5-2 283 15
17 St. Cloud State 7- 6-1 226 17
18 Western Michigan 7- 4-3 180 16
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence 9- 5-4 149 19[/u][/b]
20 Omaha 8- 5-3 60 NR
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Clarkson 28, Cornell 15[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 14,
Robert Morris 6, Michigan 5, Army 2, Providence 2,
Rochester Institute of Technology 2, New Hampshire 1, Wisconsin 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 5, 2016[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 508 (31) 1 10-2-2
2 University of Denver 476 (2) 2 11-2-3
3 Boston College 400 4 12-5-1
4 Penn State University 399 6 13-1-1
5 Boston University 351 5 8-4-2
[b][u]6 Harvard University 336 8 8-2-1[/u][/b]
7 UMass Lowell 284 3 6-4-1
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac University 280 7 10-5-2[/u][/b]
9 Univer of North Dakota 255 10 8-5-3
10 Ohio State University 236 11 9-2-4
11 University of Minnesota 160 9 7-5-2
12 University of Vermont 121 14 9-3-2
13 University of Notre Dame 83 12 8-6-2
[b][u]14 Union College 45 NR 10-3-2[/u][/b]
15 Bemidji State University 40 NR 12-5-1
Others receiving votes: Minnesota State University 37, Western Michigan 33,
St. Cloud State University 21, [b][u]St. Lawrence University 11,[/u][/b]
Univrsity of Nebraska Omaha 3, Robert Morris University 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 10-2-2 .7857 2 .6271 1
2 Penn State 58 13-1-1 .9000 1 .6220* 2
3 Denver 57 11-2-3 .7812 3 .6049 3
[b][u]4t Harvard 55 8-2-1 .7727 4 .5852 4[/u][/b]
4t Vermont 55 9-3-2 .7143 7 .5757 5
6 Ohio State 54 9-2-4 .7333 5t .5729* 6
7 North Dakota 53 8-5-3 .5938 17t .5678* 7
8t Boston College 52 12-5-1 .6944 8t .5655 8
8t Boston Univer 52 8-4-2 .6429 12t .5637 9
10 Mass-Lowell 50 8-5-3 .5938 17t .5627 10
11 Western Michigan49 7-4-3 .6071 16 .5565 11
12 Minnesota 48 7-5-2 .5714 22 .5556 12
13 St. Cloud State 47 7-6-1 .5357 25t .5533* 13
[b][u]14 Union 46 10-3-2 .7333 5t .5529* 14
15 Quinnipiac 45 10-5-2 .6471 11 .5511* 15
16 Cornell 44 7-3-1 .6818 10 .5483 16[/u][/b]
17t Notre Dame 42 8-6-2 .5625 23t .5446 17
[b][u]17t St. Lawrence 42 9-5-4 .6111 15 .5421 18[/u][/b]
19 Robert Morris 41 8-4-2 .6429 12t .5394 19
20t Bemidji State 39 12-5-1 .6944 8t .5378 20
20t Omaha 39 8-5-3 .5938 17t .5375 21
[b][u]20t Clarkson 39 9-6-3 .5833 20 .5340 22[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 05, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (14) 15- 2-1 149 1
2 Minnesota 14- 2-2 132 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth 12- 3-3 108 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 14- 3-3 104 5
4 St. Lawrence ( 1) 15- 1-2 104 3[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 11- 3-3 76 6
[b][u]7 Colgate 15- 2-2 53 7
8 Quinnipiac 13- 4-3 51 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 12- 1-5 26 NR
10 North Dakota 7- 6-5 10 9
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell 7[/u][/b], Northeastern 2,
Boston University 1, [b][u]Princeton 1[/u][/b], Vermont 1.
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 St. Lawrence 35 15-1-2 .8889 2 .6725* 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 34 15-2-1 .8611 3 .6668* 3
3 Minnesota 33 14-2-2 .8333 5 .6358* 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 32 14-3-3 .7750 8 .6291* 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota-Duluth31 12-3-3 .7500 9 .6152* 6
6 Boston College 30 11-3-3 .7353 10 .5903 7
[b][u]7 Colgate 29 15-2-2 .8421 4 .5833* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 12-1-5 .8056 6 .5772* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 13-4-3 .7250 11 .5717* 11
10 Cornell 26 8-4-1 .6538 12 .5495 12[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 25 11-6-3 .6250 14 .5442 14
12 Boston Univer 24 11-6-1 .6389 13 .5447 13
13 North Dakota 23 7-6-5 .5278 18 .5331 15
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4S0QMYSNX
I'll post them all later, but we got enough votes to "place 21" and the women got 1 vote.
21st in both USCHO and USA Hockey polls.
Paul Patton had to put up with a Pennsylvania team. I think the first team Cornell played in Lynah Rink was against a team from Pennsylvania - Scranton, maybe. Roger Eastman was the Captain of the Cornell Hockey Team.
Quote from: Trotsky21st in both USCHO and USA Hockey polls.
If you consider 1 vote being "in the polls".:-D
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 12, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (42) 11- 3-2 991 1
2 Denver ( 4) 12- 3-3 948 2
3 Penn State ( 4) 13- 1-1 886 3
[b][u]4 Harvard 8- 2-1 790 6[/u][/b]
5 Boston College 13- 6-1 767 4
6 Boston University 9- 5-2 745 5
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 10- 5-3 712 9
8 North Dakota 9- 6-3 600 8
9 Ohio State 9- 2-4 582 10
10 Minnesota 9- 5-2 532 11
11 Vermont 10- 4-2 494 12
12 Notre Dame 9- 6-2 403 14
[b][u]13 Union 12- 3-2 393 15
14 Quinnipiac 10- 7-2 384 7[/u][/b]
15 Bemidji State 13- 5-2 326 13
16 Western Michigan 8- 5-3 225 18
[b][u]17 St. Lawrence 10- 5-4 202 19[/u][/b]
18 St. Cloud State 8- 7-1 168 17
19 Minnesota State 10- 6-2 162 16
20 Omaha 9- 6-3 75 20
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell 49[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 29, Army 10,
[b][u]Clarkson 6[/u][/b], Providence 4, Michigan 1, Wisconsin 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 12, 2016[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 508 (32) 1 11-3-2
2 University of Denver 474 (1) 2 12-3-3
3 Penn State University 424 (1) 4 13-1-1
4 Boston College 361 3 13-6-1
[b][u]5 Harvard University 356 6 8-2-1[/u][/b]
6 Boston University 349 5 9-5-2
7 UMass Lowell 306 7 10-5-3
8 Ohio State University 252 10 9-2-4
9 Univer of North Dakota 228 9 9-6-3
10 University of Vermont 190 12 10-4-2
11 University of Minnesota 180 11 9-5-2
[b][u]12 Union College 113 14 12-3-2
13 Quinnipiac University 102 8 10-7-2[/u][/b]
14 University of Notre Dame 95 13 9-6-2
15 Bemidji State University 66 15 13-5-2
Others receiving votes: Western Michigan University 33, [b][u]St. Lawrence University 24[/u][/b],
St. Cloud State University 9, University of Nebraska Omaha 5,
Minnesota State University 4, [b][u]Cornell University 1[/u][/b].
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 11-3-2 .7500 4t .6298 1
2 Penn State 58 13-1-1 .9000 1 .6258* 2
3 Denver 57 12-3-3 .7500 4t .6023* 3
[b][u]4t Harvard 55 8-2-1 .7727 2 .5914* 4[/u][/b]
4t Mass-Lowell 55 10-5-3 .6389 11 .5726 5
6t Vermont 54 10-4-2 .6875 8 .5724 6
6t Boston Univer 54 9-5-2 .6250 13t .5713 7
8 Ohio State 52 9-2-4 .7333 6 .5687* 8
9 Minnesota 51 9-5-2 .6250 13t .5643 9
10 North Dakota 50 9-6-3 .5833 21t .5639* 10
11 Western Michigan49 8-5-3 .5938 18t .5636 11
[b][u]12 Union 48 12-3-2 .7647 3 .5619* 12[/u][/b]
13 Boston College 47 13-6-1 .6750 10 .5601 13
14 Notre Dame 45 9-6-2 .5882 20 .5531 14
[b][u]15t Cornell 44 7-3-1 .6818 9 .5477 15
15t St. Lawrence 44 10-5-4 .6316 12 .5461* 16[/u][/b]
17 St. Cloud State 43 8-7-1 .5312 26t .5440 17
18t Bemidji State 41 13-5-2 .7000 7 .5373 18
18t Omaha 41 9-6-3 .5833 21t .5367 19
[b][u]18t Quinnipiac 41 10-7-2 .5789 24 .5350* 20[/u][/b]
21t Robert Morris 38 9-5-2 .6250 13t .5327 21
[b][u]21t Clarkson 38 9-7-3 .5526 25 .5306 22[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
December 12, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 17- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 15- 3-2 127 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 15- 3-4 109 4
4 St. Lawrence 15- 1-2 104 4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota-Duluth 13- 4-3 103 3
6 Boston College 12- 3-3 80 6
[b][u]7 Colgate 15- 2-2 54 7
8 Quinnipiac 13- 4-3 47 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 12- 1-5 29 9
10 North Dakota 9- 6-5 12 10
Others receiving votes: Boston University 6, [b][u]Princeton 2, Cornell 1[/u][/b], Vermont 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 St. Lawrence 35 15-1-2 .8889 2 .6706* 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 34 17-2-1 .8750 3 .6647* 3
[b][u]3 Clarkson 33 15-3-4 .7727 8 .6228* 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 32 15-3-2 .8000 6t .6207* 5
5 Minnesota-Duluth31 13-4-3 .7250 10t .5977 6
6 Boston College 30 12-3-3 .7500 9 .5960 7
[b][u]7 Colgate 29 15-2-2 .8421 4 .5835* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 12-1-5 .8056 5 .5775* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 13-4-3 .7250 10t .5706* 11[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 26 11-6-3 .6250 13t .5489 13
11 Boston Univer 25 12-7-1 .6250 13t .5535 12
[b][u]12 Cornell 24 8-4-1 .6538 12 .5473* 14[/u][/b]
13 North Dakota 23 9-6-5 .5750 17 .5421 15
14 Vermont 22 7-6-4 .5294 19 .5281 16
[b][u]15 Princeton 21 9-6-1 .5938 15 .5255 17[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4SfEk87t6
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Trotsky21st in both USCHO and USA Hockey polls.
If you consider 1 vote being "in the polls".:-D
At some point I wondered if there were any voters who just put in rankings according to straight RPI/PWR. The answer is one, at most, for USA/USA.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Trotsky21st in both USCHO and USA Hockey polls.
If you consider 1 vote being "in the polls".:-D
I do.
We move closer to #20
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
December 19, 2016[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth(35) 12- 3-3 982 1
2 Denver (11) 12- 3-3 958 2
3 Penn State ( 4) 13- 1-1 886 3
[b][u]4 Harvard 8- 2-1 818 4[/u][/b]
5 Boston University 10- 5-2 765 6
6 Boston College 13- 6-1 760 5
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 10- 5-3 689 7
8 North Dakota 9- 6-3 626 8
9 Ohio State 9- 2-4 591 9
[b][u]10 Union 14- 3-2 560 13[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota 9- 5-2 531 10
12 Notre Dame 9- 6-2 415 12
13 Vermont 10- 6-2 348 11
[b][u]14 Quinnipiac 10- 7-2 340 14[/u][/b]
15 Bemidji State 13- 6-3 296 15
16 Western Michigan 8- 5-3 257 16
[b][u]17 St. Lawrence 10- 5-4 237 17[/u][/b]
18 St. Cloud State 8- 7-1 164 18
19 Minnesota State 11- 7-2 84 19
20 Omaha 9- 6-3 77 20
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell 65[/u][/b], Michigan Tech 27,
Army 10, Michigan 5, [b][u]Clarkson 4[/u][/b], Providence 3, [b][u]Princeton 2.[/u][/b]
[b][u]USA Today/Hockey is not out.[/u][/b]
I don't expect further polls till the new year. So USA may have already quit.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Penn State 59 13-1-1 .9000 1 .6281* 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth58 12-3-3 .7500 4t .6241 2
3 Denver 57 12-3-3 .7500 4t .6020* 3
[b][u]4t Harvard 55 8-2-1 .7727 3 .5948 4
4t Union 55 14-3-2 .7895 2 .5849* 5[/u][/b]
4t Boston Univer 55 10-5-2 .6471 10 .5740 6
7 Mass-Lowell 53 10-5-3 .6389 11 .5679 7
8 Ohio State 52 9-2-4 .7333 6 .5648* 8
9 North Dakota 51 9-6-3 .5833 20t .5637* 9
10 Western Michigan50 8-5-3 .5938 17t .5633 10
11 Minnesota 49 9-5-2 .6250 13 .5624 11
12 Boston College 48 13-6-1 .6750 8 .5594 12
13 Notre Dame 46 9-6-2 .5882 19 .5518 13
[b][u]14t Cornell 45 7-3-1 .6818 7 .5499 14
14t St. Lawrence 45 10-5-4 .6316 12 .5476* 15[/u][/b]
16 Vermont 44 10-6-2 .6111 15 .5436 16
17 St. Cloud State 43 8-7-1 .5312 26t .5423 17
18t Bemidji State 42 13-6-3 .6591 9 .5407 18
[b][u]18t Quinnipiac 42 10-7-2 .5789 24 .5361 19[/u][/b]
20 Omaha 40 9-6-3 .5833 20t .5342 20
[b][u]21 Clarkson 39 9-7-3 .5526 25 .5313 21[/u][/b]
[b][u]No new women's polls out.
Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 St. Lawrence 35 15-1-2 .8889 2 .6716* 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 34 17-2-1 .8750 3 .6641* 3
[b][u]3 Clarkson 33 15-3-4 .7727 8 .6238* 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 32 15-3-2 .8000 6t .6194* 5
5 Boston College 31 12-3-3 .7500 9 .5969 6
6 Minnesota-Duluth30 13-4-3 .7250 10t .5954 7
[b][u]7 Colgate 29 15-2-2 .8421 4 .5842* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 12-1-5 .8056 5 .5786* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 13-4-3 .7250 10t .5717* 11[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 26 11-6-3 .6250 13t .5513 13
11 Boston Univer 25 12-7-1 .6250 13t .5551 12
[b][u]12 Cornell 24 8-4-1 .6538 12 .5480* 14[/u][/b]
13 North Dakota 23 10-7-5 .5682 17 .5290 15
14 Vermont 22 7-6-4 .5294 19 .5290 16
[b][u]15 Princeton 21 9-6-1 .5938 15 .5264 17[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4TKfKrkFS
19th
USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
December 19, 2016
Team Points (First Place Votes) Last Poll Record
1 University of Minnesota Duluth 503 (30) 1 12-3-3
2 University of Denver 478 (3) 2 12-3-3
3 Penn State University 412 (1) 3 13-1-1
4 Harvard University 386 5 8-2-1
5 Boston College 370 4 13-6-1
6 Boston University 350 6 10-5-2
7 UMass Lowell 287 7 10-5-3
8 University of North Dakota 241 9 9-6-3
9 Union College 239 12 14-3-2
10 Ohio State University 234 8 9-2-4
11 University of Minnesota 164 11 9-5-2
12 University of Notre Dame 101 14 9-6-2
13 Quinnipiac University 78 13 10-7-2
14 University of Vermont 77 10 10-6-2
15 Bemidji State University 55 15 13-6-3
Others receiving votes: St. Lawrence University 43, Western Michigan University 30, St. Cloud State University 13, Cornell University 10, Minnesota State University 6, University of Nebraska Omaha 2, Michigan Tech University 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/#ixzz4TRqdkIwK
What with one thing and another we're back to 19 in PWR to kiss 2016's godawful ass goodbye.
To the past year, I say this: ::deadhorse::
Quote from: TrotskyWhat with one thing and another we're back to 19 in PWR to kiss 2016's godawful ass goodbye.
To the past year, I say this: ::deadhorse::
Be careful, 2016 only brings on 2017, and it could be worse.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 02, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth(47) 12- 3-3 997 1
2 Penn State ( 3) 13- 1-1 918 3
3 Denver 12- 4-4 881 2
[b][u]4 Harvard 9- 2-1 868 4[/u][/b]
5 Boston University 10- 5-2 779 5
6 Massachusetts-Lowell 12- 5-3 752 7
7 North Dakota 10- 6-3 676 8
8 Boston College 13- 7-2 623 6
9 Minnesota 11- 5-2 572 11
[b][u]10 Union 14- 4-2 516 10[/u][/b]
11 Ohio State 9- 3-4 493 9
12 Notre Dame 11- 6-2 479 12
13 Vermont 12- 6-2 429 13
14 Western Michigan 10- 5-3 342 16
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 11- 8-2 320 14
16 St. Lawrence 10- 5-4 230 17[/u][/b]
17 Bemidji State 14- 7-3 195 15
18 Omaha 11- 6-3 157 20
19 Minnesota State 11- 7-2 88 19
20 St. Cloud State 9- 8-1 76 18
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 30, [b][u]Cornell 25[/u][/b], Providence 21, Army 15,
Robert Morris 8, Northeastern 4, Air Force 3, [b][u]Clarkson 2[/u][/b], Wisconsin 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 2, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 509 (33) 1 12-3-3
2 Penn State University 443 (1) 3 13-1-1
[b][u]3 Harvard University 416 4 9-2-1[/u][/b]
4 University of Denver 402 2 12-4-4
5 Boston University 372 6 10-5-2
6 UMass Lowell 349 7 12-5-3
7 Univer of North Dakota 294 8 10-6-3
8 Boston College 257 5 13-7-2
9 University of Minnesota 221 11 11-5-2
[b][u]10 Union College 178 9 14-4-2[/u][/b]
11 Ohio State University 160 10 9-3-4
12 University of Notre Dame155 12 11-6-2
13 University of Vermont 118 14 12-6-2
14 Western Michigan Univer 93 NR 10-5-3
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac University 44 13 11-8-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 27[/u][/b], University of Nebraska Omaha 19,
Bemidji State University 17, St. Cloud State University 4, Robert Morris University 2.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 12-3-3 .7500 3t .6292 1
2 Penn State 58 13-1-1 .9000 1 .6258* 2
3 Denver 57 12-4-4 .7000 5 .5956 3
[b][u]4t Harvard 55 9-2-1 .7917 2 .5903* 4[/u][/b]
4t Mass-Lowell 55 12-5-3 .6750 7 .5808 5
4t Boston Univer 55 10-5-2 .6471 11 .5743 6
7 Western Michigan53 10-5-3 .6389 13 .5739 7
[b][u]8 Union 52 14-4-2 .7500 3t .5698* 8[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 51 10-6-3 .6053 21 .5690* 9
10 Minnesota 50 11-5-2 .6667 8 .5624 10
11 Notre Dame 49 11-6-2 .6316 15t .5606 11
12 Vermont 48 12-6-2 .6500 10 .5538 12
13 Ohio State 47 9-3-4 .6875 6 .5491* 13
14t Boston College 45 13-7-2 .6364 14 .5488 14
14t Omaha 45 11-6-3 .6250 17t .5480 15
[b][u]16 St. Lawrence 44 10-5-4 .6316 15t .5462* 16[/u][/b]
17t St. Cloud State 43 9-8-1 .5278 29 .5448 17
[b][u]17t Quinnipiac 43 11-8-2 .5714 24 .5333 19
19t Cornell 40 8-4-1 .6538 9 .5334 18[/u][/b]
19t Air Force 40 11-6-3 .6250 17t .5326 20
21 Bemidji State 39 14-7-3 .6458 12 .5325 21
22 Providence 38 8-6-4 .5556 25t .5325 22
23 Connecticut 37 8-6-6 .5500 27 .5310 23
[b][u]24t Clarkson 35 9-8-3 .5250 30 .5243 24[/u][/b]
24t Michigan Tech 35 13-8-3 .6042 22 .5242 25
26 Robert Morris 34 11-6-3 .6250 17t .5231 26
[b][u]No Women's Polls out.[/u][/b]
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
[b][u]1 St. Lawrence 35 15-1-2 .8889 2 .6706* 2[/u][/b]
2 Wisconsin 34 17-2-1 .8750 3 .6636* 3
[b][u]3 Clarkson 33 15-3-4 .7727 8 .6233* 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 32 15-3-2 .8000 6t .6196* 5
5 Boston College 31 12-3-3 .7500 9 .5961 6
6 Minnesota-Duluth30 13-4-3 .7250 10 .5954 7
[b][u]7 Colgate 29 15-2-2 .8421 4 .5846* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 14-1-5 .8250 5 .5825* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 14-5-3 .7045 11 .5635* 11[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 26 11-6-3 .6250 13t .5512 13
11 Boston Univer 25 12-7-1 .6250 13t .5558 12
[b][u]12 Cornell 24 8-4-1 .6538 12 .5485* 14
13 Princeton 23 10-6-2 .6111 15 .5341 15[/u][/b]
14 Vermont 22 8-6-5 .5526 19 .5312 16
15 North Dakota 21 10-7-5 .5682 17 .5294 17
16 Connecticut 20 9-6-3 .5833 16 .5171 18
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-women/#ixzz4UeKC2Xs4
Men and women have the same record. Weird.
I'll post it all later, but we're 19 in USCHO poll. That gives 5 ECAC teams. (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/) But we need to move up before we'll be back in the bracketology talk this week.
Harvard at 2 with 11 first place votes. They could be #1 by Fish 'n Fowl.
If they sweep in the Capital District, they will almost certainly be #1 next week.
So here's all of it.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 09, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (27) 14- 4-4 952 3
[b][u]2 Harvard (11) 11- 2-1 918 4[/u][/b]
3 Minn-Duluth( 6) 12- 4-4 888 1
4 Penn State ( 6) 14- 2-1 883 2
5 Boston Univer 12- 5-2 812 5
6 Mass-Lowell 14- 5-3 754 6
7 North Dakota 12- 6-3 723 7
8 Boston College 14- 7-2 633 8
9 Minnesota 11- 5-2 592 9
10 Ohio State 10- 4-4 517 11
[b][u]11 Union 14- 5-2 479 10[/u][/b]
12 Vermont 14- 6-2 464 13
13 Notre Dame 12- 7-2 388 12
14 Western Michigan10- 5-3 379 14
[b][u]15 Quinnipiac 12- 9-2 270 15
16 St. Lawrence 11- 6-5 240 16[/u][/b]
17 Bemidji State 15- 8-3 171 17
18 Minnesota State 13- 7-2 148 19
[b][u]19 Cornell 9- 4-1 86 NR[/u][/b]
20 Michigan Tech 14- 9-3 75 NR
Others receiving votes: Air Force 48, Omaha 26,
Robert Morris 22, St. Cloud State 12, Wisconsin 11, Providence 9.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 9, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 476 (18) 4 14-4-4
2 Univer Minnesota Duluth 445 (3) 1 12-4-4
[b][u]3 Harvard University 444 (5) 3 11-2-1[/u][/b]
4 Penn State University 442 (8) 2 14-2-1
5 Boston University 383 5 12-5-2
6 UMass Lowell 342 6 14-5-3
7 Univer of North Dakota 310 7 12-6-3
8 Boston College 269 8 14-7-2
9 University of Minnesota 233 9 11-5-2
10 Ohio State University 185 11 10-4-4
[b][u]11 Union College 178 10 14-5-2[/u][/b]
12 University of Vermont 161 13 14-6-2
13 University of Notre Dame 85 12 12-7-2
14 Western Michigan Univer 82 14 10-5-3
[b][u]T15 Quinnipiac University 18 15 12-9-2
T15 St Lawrence University 18 NR 11-6-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: United States Air Force Academy 3,
Bemidji State University 2, [b][u]Cornell University 2[/u][/b], Minnesota State University 2.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Penn State 59 14-2-1 .8529 1 .6126* 1
[b][u]2t Harvard 57 11-2-1 .8214 2 .6009* 2[/u][/b]
2t Minnesota-Duluth57 12-4-4 .7000 6 .5984 3
4t Denver 56 14-4-4 .7273 3 .5980 4
4t Boston Univer 56 12-5-2 .6842 7 .5802 5
6 Mass-Lowell 54 14-5-3 .7045 5 .5786* 6
7 North Dakota 53 12-6-3 .6429 15 .5732* 7
8 Western Michigan52 10-5-3 .6389 16 .5693 8
[b][u]9 Union 51 14-5-2 .7143 4 .5660* 9[/u][/b]
10 Vermont 50 14-6-2 .6818 8 .5624 10
11 Minnesota 49 11-5-2 .6667 10t .5610 11
12 Boston College 48 14-7-2 .6522 14 .5534 12
13 Ohio State 47 10-4-4 .6667 10t .5511* 13
[b][u]14 St. Lawrence 46 11-6-5 .6136 20 .5458* 14
15 Cornell 45 9-4-1 .6786 9 .5453 15[/u][/b]
16 Notre Dame 44 12-7-2 .6190 19 .5444 16
17 Air Force 43 13-6-3 .6591 12t .5409 17
[b][u]18 Quinnipiac 42 12-9-2 .5652 25 .5374 18[/u][/b]
19 Omaha 41 11-8-3 .5682 24 .5336 19
20 St. Cloud State 40 9-10-1 .4750 33t .5291 20
21 Robert Morris 39 13-6-3 .6591 12t .5290 21
22 Bemidji State 38 15-8-3 .6346 18 .5276 22
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Penn State 505.4 .8227 1 14-2-1 0.8529 5.800 30 101.1
[b][u]2 Harvard 466.3 .8111 2 11-2-1 0.8214 4.600 22 116.6[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth423.3 .7963 6 12-4-4 0.7000 2.333 1 189.7
4 Denver 421.5 .7957 3 14-4-4 0.7273 2.667 2 166.0
5 Boston Univer 318.6 .7487 7 12-5-2 0.6842 2.167 4 153.4
6 Mass-Lowell 308.9 .7431 5 14-5-3 0.7045 2.385 12 135.1
7 Vermont 288.7 .7307 8 14-6-2 0.6818 2.143 8 139.7
8 North Dakota 285.2 .7284 15 12-6-3 0.6429 1.800 3 163.0
9 Western Michigan256.5 .7080 16 10-5-3 0.6389 1.769 6 149.6
10 Ohio State 231.6 .6876 10 10-4-4 0.6667 2.000 21 120.4
[b][u]11 Union 231.3 .6873 4 14-5-2 0.7143 2.500 31 96.98[/u][/b]
12 Boston College 224.3 .6811 14 14-7-2 0.6522 1.875 20 123.0
13 Minnesota 222.2 .6792 10 11-5-2 0.6667 2.000 23 115.6
[b][u]14 St. Lawrence 213.1 .6705 20 11-6-5 0.6136 1.588 11 137.0[/u][/b]
15 Notre Dame 212.1 .6696 19 12-7-2 0.6190 1.625 13 133.6
[b][u]16 Cornell 189.1 .6452 9 9-4-1 0.6786 2.111 34 94.57
17 Quinnipiac 169.3 .6210 25 12-9-2 0.5652 1.300 14 131.7[/u][/b]
18 Omaha 165.9 .6165 24 11-8-3 0.5682 1.316 18 127.6
[b][u]19 Clarkson 152.2 .5972 27 10-8-3 0.5476 1.211 19 126.8[/u][/b]
20 Air Force 150.3 .5943 12t 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 40 80.14
21 Providence 141.9 .5813 28 8-7-4 0.5263 1.111 17 128.4
22 Miami 131.3 .5634 33t 7-8-5 0.4750 0.905 7 144.4
23 Robert Morris 129.4 .5600 12t 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 51 69.01
24 Wisconsin 128.6 .5586 22 10-7-1 0.5833 1.400 35 93.53
25 St. Cloud State 126.4 .5547 33t 9-10-1 0.4750 0.905 9 139.1
26 Bemidji State 123.8 .5498 18 15-8-3 0.6346 1.737 46 72.81
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 09, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 18- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota 16- 3-2 134 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 15- 3-4 112 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth 13- 4-3 98 5
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 16- 2-2 96 4[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 13- 3-4 84 6
7 Robert Morris 14- 1-5 51 9
[b][u]8 Colgate 15- 3-3 41 7
9 Quinnipiac 15- 5-4 36 8[/u][/b]
10 Boston University 12- 7-2 10 NR
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Princeton 9[/u][/b], Northeastern 2,
Mercyhurst 1, North Dakota 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 18-2-1 .8810 2 .6656* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 16-2-2 .8500 3 .6344* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 33 16-3-2 .8095 5 .6272* 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 32 15-3-4 .7727 8 .6144* 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota-Duluth31 13-4-3 .7250 10 .6003 6
6 Boston College 30 13-3-4 .7500 9 .5956* 7
7 Robert Morris 29 14-1-5 .8250 4 .5859* 8
[b][u]8 Colgate 28 15-3-3 .7857 7 .5671* 10
9 Quinnipiac 27 15-5-4 .7083 11 .5586* 11[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 26 13-7-3 .6304 14 .5518 13
11 Boston Univer 25 12-7-2 .6190 15 .5571 12
[b][u]12 Princeton 24 12-6-2 .6500 12 .5418* 14
13 Cornell 23 9-5-1 .6333 13 .5402* 15[/u][/b]
14 North Dakota 22 10-7-5 .5682 16t .5395 16
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1360. .9169 1 18-2-1 0.8810 7.400 1 214.8
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 740.1 .8601 2 16-2-2 0.8500 5.667 8 148.0[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota 680.6 .8503 4 16-3-2 0.8095 4.250 4 175.0
[b][u]4 Clarkson 615.5 .8380 6 15-3-4 0.7727 3.400 2 193.4[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota-Duluth451.6 .7956 8 13-4-3 0.7250 2.636 3 180.6
6 Boston College 370.9 .7648 7 13-3-4 0.7500 3.000 11 131.6
7 Robert Morris 286.3 .7200 3 14-1-5 0.8250 4.714 29 67.35
[b][u]8 Colgate 211.0 .6614 5 15-3-3 0.7857 3.667 32 62.06[/u][/b]
9 Boston Univr 205.8 .6564 13 12-7-2 0.6190 1.625 13 129.6
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 204.5 .6551 9 15-5-4 0.7083 2.429 23 87.64[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 194.2 .6445 12 13-7-3 0.6304 1.706 15 116.5
12 North Dakota 169.3 .6159 14t 10-7-5 0.5682 1.316 12 130.3
[b][u]13 Princeton 150.2 .5902 10 12-6-2 0.6500 1.857 24 83.45
14 Cornell 149.6 .5893 11 9-5-1 0.6333 1.727 22 89.76[/u][/b]
15 Vermont 144.3 .5814 14t 10-7-5 0.5682 1.316 16 111.0
16 Ohio State 142.1 .5780 17 10-10-2 0.5000 1.000 9 142.1
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4VJYXIl92
Quote from: IcebergIf they sweep in the Capital District, they will almost certainly be #1 next week.
So that's not gonna happen.
With the win we're at 12
Quote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Briefly 12. Back to 14 after OSU, Penn State, and Harvard games went final I think.
Huh. Still volatile in January.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Briefly 12. Back to 14 after OSU, Penn State, and Harvard games went final I think.
And up to 13 at 11:25pm.
That awful loss by Harvard drops them from 2 to 6
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Briefly 12. Back to 14 after OSU, Penn State, and Harvard games went final I think.
And up to 13 at 11:25pm.
I think that's because this happened. (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/4199026-miami-snaps-unds-82-game-unbeaten-streak-when-leading-after-two-periods)
Quote from: BearLoverI think that's because this happened. (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/4199026-miami-snaps-unds-82-game-unbeaten-streak-when-leading-after-two-periods)
Yikes.
QuoteOn Friday night, that 82-game unbeaten streak when leading after two—a stretch that lasted three-and-a-half years—came to a stunning end in Ralph Engelstad Arena.
Miami scored five consecutive goals in the third period to rally from a two-goal deficit and beat UND 6-3 in front of 11,728 shocked fans.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: abmarksQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Briefly 12. Back to 14 after OSU, Penn State, and Harvard games went final I think.
And up to 13 at 11:25pm.
I think that's because this happened. (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/4199026-miami-snaps-unds-82-game-unbeaten-streak-when-leading-after-two-periods)
I don't think it was. I looked at the PWR before the Miami game ended and we were already 13. At least I think I did.
What I don't get though is why SLU dropped so much when they got a win, too. I suppose that was the Miami effect.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: abmarksQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWith the win we're at 12
? PWR CHN has us at 14.
Briefly 12. Back to 14 after OSU, Penn State, and Harvard games went final I think.
And up to 13 at 11:25pm.
I think that's because this happened. (http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/4199026-miami-snaps-unds-82-game-unbeaten-streak-when-leading-after-two-periods)
I don't think it was. I looked at the PWR before the Miami game ended and we were already 13. At least I think I did.
What I don't get though is why SLU dropped so much when they got a win, too. I suppose that was the Miami effect.
Agreed. I didn't see any Cornell movement after Miami win.
TBH I had no idea, I just wanted to post the link.
Quote from: BearLoverTBH I had no idea, I just wanted to post the link.
And I appreciated you doing it. :-)
A look at our NC opponents' recent form (last 5 games not against Cornell) and PWR:WWWWL 21 Miami (x2)
WLWWT 31 UNH
WTWLL 34 CC
LLWLW 38 Merrimack (x2)
LLWTT 59 NMU
11 right now, a whisker ahead of Vermont. I think we flip the SLU comp with a win. So let's win.
Still interesting: with Quinnipiac falling to #24 after their loss to us, Cornell has still yet to register any Quality Win Bonus. The only other team in the top 40 without a Quality Win is UNH (31).
Up four spots to #15 in the 1/16/17 USCHO poll. ECAC teams sit at 6, 9, 15, 16, 17.
Gotta admire Guy Gadowsky's work -- in four years he's taken a relatively new program to the top spot as of this week.
Here they are.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Penn State (30) 16- 2-1 964 4
2 Denver (16) 15- 5-4 941 1
3 Boston Univer ( 1) 13- 5-2 880 5
4 Minnesota-Duluth( 1) 13- 5-4 866 3
5 Mass-Lowell ( 2) 15- 5-3 811 6
[b][u]6 Harvard 11- 4-1 704 2[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 13- 5-2 672 9
8 North Dakota 13- 7-3 654 7
[b][u]9 Union 16- 5-2 619 11[/u][/b]
10 Boston College 14- 8-2 535 8
11 Ohio State 11- 4-5 489 10
12 Vermont 15- 7-2 441 12
13 Western Michigan 11- 6-3 406 14
14 Notre Dame 13- 8-2 325 13
[b][u]15 Cornell 11- 4-1 280 19
16 St. Lawrence 12- 6-6 264 16
17 Quinnipiac 13-10-2 199 15[/u][/b]
18 Bemidji State 15- 8-3 157 17
19 Omaha 13- 8-3 93 NR
20 Minnesota State 14- 8-2 77 18
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 36, St. Cloud State 31,
Providence 22, Robert Morris 20, Air Force 8, Miami 5, Wisconsin 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 480 (18) 1 15-5-4
2 Penn State University 470 (16) 4 16-2-1
3 Univer Minnesota Duluth 436 2 13-5-4
4 Boston University 425 5 13-5-2
5 UMass Lowell 381 6 15-5-3
[b][u]6 Harvard University 296 3 11-4-1[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota 281 9 13-5-2
8 Univer of North Dakota 277 7 13-7-3
[b][u]9 Union College 246 11 16-5-2[/u][/b]
10 Boston College 218 8 14-8-2
11 Ohio State University 150 10 11-4-5
12 Western Michigan Univer 141 14 11-6-3
13 University of Vermont 132 12 15-7-2
[b][u]14 Cornell University 61 NR 11-4-1[/u][/b]
15 University of Notre Dame40 13 13-8-2
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 28, Quinnipiac University 9[/u][/b],
St. Cloud State University 5, Minnesota State University 3, Robert Morris University 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Penn State 59 16-2-1 .8684 1 .6090* 1
2 Denver 58 15-5-4 .7083 6 .5976 2
3 Minnesota-Duluth57 13-5-4 .6818 9 .5895 3
4 Boston Univer 56 13-5-2 .7000 7t .5832 4
5 Mass-Lowell 55 15-5-3 .7174 5 .5756* 5
[b][u]6 Union 54 16-5-2 .7391 2 .5727* 6[/u][/b]
7 North Dakota 53 13-7-3 .6304 14 .5711* 7
8 Minnesota 52 13-5-2 .7000 7t .5702 8
9 Western Michigan51 11-6-3 .6250 15t .5674* 9
[b][u]10 Harvard 50 11-4-1 .7188 3t .5659* 10
11 Cornell 49 11-4-1 .7188 3t .5600* 11[/u][/b]
12 Vermont 48 15-7-2 .6667 11 .5598 12
13 Ohio State 47 11-4-5 .6750 10 .5500 13
14 Boston College 46 14-8-2 .6250 15t .5481 14
[b][u]15 St. Lawrence 45 12-6-6 .6250 15t .5465 15[/u][/b]
16 Omaha 44 13-8-3 .6042 21 .5417 16
17 St. Cloud State 43 10-11-1 .4773 33t .5387 17
18t Notre Dame 41 13-8-2 .6087 20 .5375 18
18t Providence 41 10-8-4 .5455 27 .5342 19
20 Robert Morris 40 13-6-3 .6591 12 .5301 20
21 Miami 39 8-9-5 .4773 33t .5298 21
22 Air Force 38 13-7-4 .6250 15t .5295 22
23 Bemidji State 37 15-8-3 .6346 13 .5285 23
[b][u]24 Quinnipiac 36 13-10-2 .5600 26 .5282 24
25 Clarkson 35 11-9-3 .5435 28 .5235 25[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Penn State 528.1 .8296 1 16-2-1 0.8684 6.600 35 93.19
2 Denver 397.9 .7873 6 15-5-4 0.7083 2.429 2 170.5
3 Minnesota-Duluth375.4 .7778 9 13-5-4 0.6818 2.143 1 181.6
4 Boston Univer 333.1 .7574 7t 13-5-2 0.7000 2.333 8 149.3
5 Mass-Lowell 311.8 .7456 5 15-5-3 0.7174 2.538 14 128.4
[b][u]6 Union 277.3 .7238 2 16-5-2 0.7391 2.833 29 103.0[/u][/b]
7 North Dakota 276.4 .7231 14 13-7-3 0.6304 1.706 3 165.8
8 Vermont 274.4 .7218 11 15-7-2 0.6667 2.000 9 141.4
9 Western Michigan262.9 .7135 15t 11-6-3 0.6250 1.667 4 161.8
[b][u]10 Harvard 260.2 .7115 3t 11-4-1 0.7188 2.556 26 108.4[/u][/b]
11 Minnesota 253.9 .7067 7t 13-5-2 0.7000 2.333 24 113.8
12 Ohio State 230.9 .6876 10 11-4-5 0.6750 2.077 23 115.5
[b][u]13 Cornell 230.4 .6872 3t 11-4-1 0.7188 2.556 33 96.01
14 St. Lawrence 212.5 .6705 15t 12-6-6 0.6250 1.667 13 130.3[/u][/b]
15 Boston College 200.7 .6584 15t 14-8-2 0.6250 1.667 16 123.0
16 Omaha 187.0 .6432 21 13-8-3 0.6042 1.526 15 124.7
17 Notre Dame 186.2 .6423 20 13-8-2 0.6087 1.556 18 122.0
18 Providence 163.4 .6135 27 10-8-4 0.5455 1.200 10 137.2
[b][u]19 Quinnipiac 154.6 .6010 26 13-10-2 0.5600 1.273 17 122.6[/u][/b]
20 Miami 148.0 .5911 33t 8-9-5 0.4773 0.913 5 161.4
21 St. Cloud State 140.8 .5798 33t 10-11-1 0.4773 0.913 7 153.6
[b][u]22 Clarkson 140.2 .5787 28 11-9-3 0.5435 1.190 20 118.6[/u][/b]
23 Robert Morris 133.3 .5672 12 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 49 71.11
24 Air Force 127.7 .5573 15t 13-7-4 0.6250 1.667 41 78.28
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 16, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 20- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 15- 4-3 127 4
[b][u]3 Clarkson 17- 3-4 116 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 16- 5-2 104 2
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 18- 2-2 99 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 16- 3-4 79 6
7 Robert Morris 15- 2-5 47 7
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 16- 6-4 36 9
9 Princeton 13- 6-3 29 NR
10 Cornell 11- 5-2 17 NR[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 10[/u][/b], Boston University 7, North Dakota 4.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 20-2-1 .8913 2 .6693* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 18-2-2 .8636 3 .6310* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 15-4-3 .7500 8 .6137* 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 32 17-3-4 .7917 6 .6134* 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 31 16-5-2 .7391 9 .6050* 6
6 Boston College 30 16-3-4 .7826 7 .5991 7
7 Robert Morris 29 15-2-5 .7955 5 .5693* 9
[b][u]8 Cornell 28 11-5-2 .6667 12 .5590* 10
9 Quinnipiac 27 16-6-4 .6923 11 .5582* 11
10t Princeton 25 13-6-3 .6591 13 .5492* 12
10t Colgate 25 15-5-3 .7174 10 .5485* 13[/u][/b]
12t North Dakota 24 12-7-5 .6042 14 .5452 14
12t Boston University 24 12-8-4 .5833 15 .5429 15
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1469. .9227 1 20-2-1 0.8913 8.200 1 209.8
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 741.2 .8607 2 18-2-2 0.8636 6.333 8 133.0
3 Clarkson 625.9 .8407 4 17-3-4 0.7917 3.800 5 176.5[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota-Duluth591.3 .8335 6 15-4-3 0.7500 3.000 2 208.7
5 Minnesota 524.3 .8176 7 16-5-2 0.7391 2.833 3 194.7
6 Boston College 399.0 .7773 5 16-3-4 0.7826 3.600 11 118.6
7 Robert Morris 223.1 .6732 3 15-2-5 0.7955 3.889 33 61.97
[b][u]8 Quinnipiac 205.9 .6571 9 16-6-4 0.6923 2.250 21 94.61
9 Cornell 202.0 .6532 10 11-5-2 0.6667 2.000 17 105.0[/u][/b]
10 North Dakota 184.4 .6344 12 12-7-5 0.6042 1.526 9 123.0
[b][u]11 Princeton 172.1 .6198 11 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 24 91.77[/u][/b]
12 Boston Univer 167.0 .6134 13 12-8-4 0.5833 1.400 10 120.9
[b][u]13 Colgate 163.4 .6087 8 15-5-3 0.7174 2.538 31 67.27[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4VxrljQE8
BU beats BC and we drop in the pairwise. Not quite "The law of unintended consequences", but close.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU beats BC and we drop in the pairwise. Not quite "The law of unintended consequences", but close.
Butterfly Effect
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82BU beats BC and we drop in the pairwise. Not quite "The law of unintended consequences", but close.
Butterfly Effect
That works.
This (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_All_Games.html) is a graphical representation of all of Cornell's results.
Longest non-overlapping, in-season, single-loss/tie streaks in the Schafer era:19 2005, 18-0-1, games 16-34
15 2003, 14-0-1, games 21-35
11 2003, 10-1-0, games 1-11
10 2009, 9-0-1, games 8-17
[color=#d61616]10 2017, 9-1-0, games 7-16[/color] <-- active
10 2002, 9-1-0, games 16-25
10 1996, 9-1-0, games 25-34
(Fixed.)
Quote from: TrotskyThis (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_All_Games.html) is a graphical representation of all of Cornell's results.
Longest non-overlapping, in-season, single-loss/tie streaks in the Schafer era:19 2005, 18-0-1, games 16-34
15 2003, 14-0-1, games 21-35
11 2003, 10-1-0, games 1-11
10 2009, 9-0-1, games 8-17
[color=#d61616]10 2016, 9-1-0, games 7-16[/color] <-- active
10 2002, 9-1-0, games 16-25
10 1996, 9-1-0, games 25-43
Are you sure you're using a consistent numbering system for the seasons? Shouldn't this be "2017"?
Bringing it up because 2002-03 was a much better year than 03-04!
Quote from: BearLoverShouldn't this be "2017"?
Yes.
Quote from: TrotskyThis (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_All_Games.html) is a graphical representation of all of Cornell's results.
Longest non-overlapping, in-season, single-loss/tie streaks in the Schafer era:19 2005, 18-0-1, games 16-34
15 2003, 14-0-1, games 21-35
11 2003, 10-1-0, games 1-11
10 2009, 9-0-1, games 8-17
[color=#d61616]10 2016, 9-1-0, games 7-16[/color] <-- active
10 2002, 9-1-0, games 16-25
10 1996, 9-1-0, games 25-43
Also, according to this (http://www.tbrw.info/), since 2010, 27 points in-conference was enough to guarantee a first-round bye, and >7 games above .500 overall was enough to guarantee an at-large bid. A 7-6 finish in the ECAC would get us to 27 points and a .500 finish (incl. ECAC tournament) would keep us at 7 games over .500. However, the ECAC is very top-heavy this year and the latter statistic doesn't really reflect the effect of ties on the PWR.
Quote from: BearLoverAlso, according to this (http://www.tbrw.info/), since 2010, 26 points in-conference was enough to guarantee a first-round bye, and >7 games above .500 overall was enough to guarantee an at-large bid. The latter statistic doesn't account for the effect of ties on the PWR, however.
Here (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html)'s the link to pts by seed. We'd need 27 points post-2010 (the 5th place team in 2015 had 26).
As you point out, the NC$$ is a different breed of cat.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BearLoverAlso, according to this (http://www.tbrw.info/), since 2010, 26 points in-conference was enough to guarantee a first-round bye, and >7 games above .500 overall was enough to guarantee an at-large bid. The latter statistic doesn't account for the effect of ties on the PWR, however.
Here (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_Points_by_Seed.html)'s the link to pts by seed. We'd need 27 points post-2010 (the 5th place team in 2015 had 26).
As you point out, the NC$$ is a different breed of cat.
Whoops, yeah--edited original post.
Quote from: BearLoverWhoops, yeah--edited original post.
Not as bad as getting the
current year wrong. :)
Here it is. I'll add the USA Poll once it comes out. It's out.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Boston University (22) 16- 5-2 962 3
2 Minnesota-Duluth (25) 15- 5-4 959 4
3 Denver ( 2) 16- 6-4 893 2
4 Penn State ( 1) 16- 3-2 851 1
[b][u]5 Union 17- 5-2 722 9[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 14- 6-2 657 7
7 Massachusetts-Lowell 15- 7-3 655 5
8 Ohio State 12- 4-6 646 11
[b][u]9 Harvard 12- 5-2 622 6[/u][/b]
10 Western Michigan 13- 6-3 534 13
11 Vermont 16- 7-2 502 12
12 North Dakota 13- 9-3 500 8
13 Boston College 15- 9-2 490 10
[b][u]14 Cornell 12- 4-2 363 15[/u][/b]
15 Notre Dame 14- 8-3 307 14
[b][u]16 St. Lawrence 13- 7-6 234 16
17 Quinnipiac 13-10-2 152 17[/u][/b]
18 Omaha 14- 8-4 142 19
19 Providence 12- 8-4 117 NR
20 Bemidji State 16- 9-3 78 18
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 54, St. Cloud State 34, Air Force 11,
Minnesota State 9, Army 2, Wisconsin 2, Miami 1, Robert Morris 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 485 (18) 3 15-5-4
2 Boston University 474 (13) 4 16-5-2
3 University of Denver 449 (3) 1 16-6-4
4 Penn State University 420 2 16-3-2
[b][u]5 Union College 311 9 17-5-2[/u][/b]
6 University of Minnesota 303 7 14-6-2
7 UMass Lowell 267 5 15-7-3
8 Ohio State University 261 11 12-4-6
[b][u]9 Harvard University 238 6 12-5-2[/u][/b]
10 Western Michigan Univer 213 12 13-6-3
11 Boston College 179 10 15-9-2
12 Univer of North Dakota 167 8 13-9-3
13 University of Vermont 160 13 16-7-2
[b][u]14 Cornell University 99 14 12-4-2[/u][/b]
15 University of Notre Dame28 15 14-8-3
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 19,[/u][/b]
Providence College 6, St. Cloud State University 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 15-5-4 .7083 5 .6002 1
2 Denver 58 16-6-4 .6923 6 .5960 2
3 Boston Univer 57 16-5-2 .7391 3 .5919* 3
4 Penn State 56 16-3-2 .8095 1 .5893* 4
5 Western Michigan55 13-6-3 .6591 12 .5720 5
[b][u]6 Union 54 17-5-2 .7500 2 .5702* 6[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 53 14-6-2 .6818 8t .5639 7
8 Ohio State 52 12-4-6 .6818 8t .5636* 8
9 Vermont 51 16-7-2 .6800 10 .5618 9
10 Mass-Lowell 50 15-7-3 .6600 11 .5598* 10
11 North Dakota 49 13-9-3 .5800 24 .5596* 11
[b][u]12 Cornell 48 12-4-2 .7222 4 .5585 12
13 Harvard 47 12-5-2 .6842 7 .5513* 13[/u][/b]
14 Boston College 46 15-9-2 .6154 16t .5466 15
15 Providence 45 12-8-4 .5833 23 .5480 14
16 Omaha 44 14-8-4 .6154 16t .5441 16
[b][u]17 St. Lawrence 43 13-7-6 .6154 16t .5435 17[/u][/b]
18 St. Cloud State 42 11-12-1 .4792 35t .5408 18
19 Notre Dame 41 14-8-3 .6200 15 .5351 19
20 Air Force 40 14-8-4 .6154 16t .5303 20
21 Robert Morris 39 14-7-3 .6458 13 .5278 21
22 Miami 38 8-10-6 .4583 37 .5268 22
[b][u]23 Quinnipiac 37 13-10-2 .5600 26 .5263 23[/u][/b]
24 Bemidji State 36 16-9-3 .6250 14 .5204 24
[b][u]25t Clarkson 34 11-10-4 .5200 29 .5197 25[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Minnesota-Duluth433.6 .8011 5 15-5-4 0.7083 2.429 1 185.8
2 Penn State 403.1 .7896 1 16-3-2 0.8095 4.250 27 103.7
3 Boston Univer 397.9 .7875 3 16-5-2 0.7391 2.833 9 147.8
4 Denver 392.3 .7852 6 16-6-4 0.6923 2.250 3 180.2
5 Western Michigan293.3 .7345 12 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 7 156.4
6 Vermont 290.6 .7328 10 16-7-2 0.6800 2.125 10 141.2
[b][u]7 Union 276.8 .7236 2 17-5-2 0.7500 3.000 36 97.26[/u][/b]
8 Ohio State 261.8 .7128 8t 12-4-6 0.6818 2.143 14 126.7
9 North Dakota 249.2 .7031 24 13-9-3 0.5800 1.381 2 182.8
10 Mass-Lowell 243.8 .6987 11 15-7-3 0.6600 1.941 12 129.1
[b][u]11 Cornell 243.0 .6981 4 12-4-2 0.7222 2.600 34 98.99[/u][/b]
12 Minnesota 238.1 .6940 8t 14-6-2 0.6818 2.143 23 115.2
[b][u]13 Harvard 209.5 .6676 7 12-5-2 0.6842 2.167 32 100.9[/u][/b]
14 Providence 206.2 .6642 23 12-8-4 0.5833 1.400 8 149.3
15 Omaha 199.3 .6570 16t 14-8-4 0.6154 1.600 13 126.8
[b][u]16 St. Lawrence 197.7 .6553 16t 13-7-6 0.6154 1.600 15 125.8[/u][/b]
17 Boston College 197.0 .6546 16t 15-9-2 0.6154 1.600 16 125.4
18 Notre Dame 186.8 .6431 15 14-8-3 0.6200 1.632 22 116.8
19 St. Cloud State 153.5 .5995 35t 11-12-1 0.4792 0.920 5 166.3
[b][u]20 Quinnipiac 151.9 .5971 26 13-10-2 0.5600 1.273 20 120.4[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 23, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 22- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 16- 4-4 132 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 18- 4-4 112 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 17- 5-3 102 4
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 19- 3-2 91 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 18- 3-4 88 6
7 Robert Morris 16- 2-6 49 7
[b][u]8 Cornell 13- 6-2 37 10
9 Princeton 13- 6-3 29 9
10 Quinnipiac 16- 6-5 27 8[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 5, Boston University 3.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 22-2-1 .9000 2 .6736* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 19-3-2 .8333 3 .6222* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 16-4-4 .7500 7 .6114* 4
[b][u]4 Clarkson 32 18-4-4 .7692 6 .6059* 5[/u][/b]
5 Boston College 31 18-3-4 .8000 4 .6055* 6
6 Minnesota 30 17-5-3 .7400 8 .6046* 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 29 13-6-2 .6667 12 .5699* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 16-2-6 .7917 5 .5675* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 16-6-5 .6852 10 .5549* 10
10t Princeton 25 13-6-3 .6591 13 .5488* 11
10t Colgate 25 16-7-3 .6731 11 .5480* 12[/u][/b]
10t Boston Univer 25 13-8-5 .5962 15 .5478 13
13 Northeastern 23 15-9-3 .6111 14 .5392 14
14 North Dakota 22 12-9-5 .5577 16 .5362 15
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1589. .9285 1 22-2-1 0.9000 9.000 1 207.3
2 Minnesota-Duluth583.1 .8320 6 16-4-4 0.7500 3.000 2 204.9
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence 576.2 .8305 2 19-3-2 0.8333 5.000 10 126.5[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 520.7 .8169 7 17-5-3 0.7400 2.846 3 191.8
[b][u]5 Clarkson 517.1 .8159 5 18-4-4 0.7692 3.333 5 164.0[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 450.1 .7959 3 18-3-4 0.8000 4.000 11 120.8
[b][u]7 Cornell 259.7 .7026 10 13-6-2 0.6667 2.000 9 134.3[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 214.2 .6651 4 16-2-6 0.7917 3.800 32 60.41
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 195.5 .6464 8 16-6-5 0.6852 2.176 21 92.60[/u][/b]
10 North Dakota 179.3 .6284 14 12-9-5 0.5577 1.261 8 143.4
[b][u]11 Colgate 175.1 .6234 9 16-7-3 0.6731 2.059 23 87.55[/u][/b]
12 Boston Univer 173.5 .6215 13 13-8-5 0.5962 1.476 13 119.3
[u]13 Princeton 173.2 .6211 11 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 22 92.35[/u]
14 Northeastern 158.4 .6020 12 15-9-3 0.6111 1.571 16 102.5
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4WaYL3Ui4
USA poll is out, posted and we're 14.
Merrimack beat BU tonight 3-1. No change for us in Pairwise (I believe we were 11th, right?)
Quote from: scoop85Merrimack beat BU tonight 3-1. No change for us in Pairwise (I believe we were 11th, right?)
We were not; we were 12th. So that's a change.
That is why even scheduling weak teams in strong conferences can be a good thing.
Quote from: IcebergThat is why even scheduling weak teams in strong conferences can be a good thing.
As long as you win! (screams into a desk drawer)
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: scoop85Merrimack beat BU tonight 3-1. No change for us in Pairwise (I believe we were 11th, right?)
We were not; we were 12th. So that's a change.
Last night's OSU-UW result edges us up to 10th entering Fish-n-Fowl. Our opponent is at 13. We're 0.0011 away from 8th.
Let's win.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BeeeejQuote from: scoop85Merrimack beat BU tonight 3-1. No change for us in Pairwise (I believe we were 11th, right?)
We were not; we were 12th. So that's a change.
Last night's OSU-UW result edges us up to 10th entering Fish-n-Fowl. Our opponent is at 13. We're 0.0011 away from 8th.
Let's win.
With the goddamn loss (goddammit), we're at 15, but .0001 behind Providence, and ahead of a 12-12-1 St. Cloud. The back-end of a rivalry weekend is more important now. Basically, everyone in the 2nd tier is very tight.
I'll post it all later, but we only dropped to 16 in USCHO poll.
Quote from: RichHWith the goddamn loss (goddammit), we're at 15, but .0001 behind Providence, and ahead of a 12-12-1 St. Cloud. The back-end of a rivalry weekend is more important now. Basically, everyone in the 2nd tier is very tight.
Since we're tracking: 17 (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/).
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
January 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (46) 17- 5-4 996 2
2 Denver ( 3) 18- 6-4 947 3
3 Boston University 17- 7-2 888 1
[b][u]4 Union ( 1) 18- 6-2 777 5
5 Harvard 14- 5-2 749 9[/u][/b]
6 Penn State 16- 4-2 739 4
7 Minnesota 15- 7-2 716 6
8 Boston College 17- 9-2 605 13
9 Western Michigan 14- 7-3 596 10
10 Massachusetts-Lowell 15- 9-3 564 7
11 Ohio State 12- 6-6 497 8
12 Vermont 16- 8-2 421 11
13 North Dakota 14-10-3 419 12
[b][u]14 St. Lawrence 15- 7-6 416 16[/u][/b]
15 Providence 14- 8-4 280 19
[b][u]16 Cornell 12- 6-2 244 14[/u][/b]
17 Notre Dame 14- 9-3 221 15
18 Wisconsin 13- 8-1 93 NR
[b][u]19 Quinnipiac 14-11-2 81 17[/u][/b]
20 Michigan Tech 16- 9-7 73 NR
Others receiving votes: Air Force 51, Omaha 41, St. Cloud State 36,
Bemidji State 30, Minnesota State 13, [b][u]Yale 4[/u][/b], Miami 3.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
January 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 506 (30) 1 17-5-4
2 University of Denver 472 (4) 3 18-6-4
3 Boston University 437 2 17-7-2
4 Penn State University 363 4 16-4-2
[b][u]5 Union College 349 5 18-6-2
6 Harvard University 329 9 14-5-2[/u][/b]
7 University of Minnesota 321 6 15-7-2
8 Boston College 249 11 17-9-2
9 Western Michigan Univer 244 10 14-7-3
10 UMass Lowell 198 7 15-9-3
11 Ohio State University 176 8 12-6-6
12 Univer of North Dakota 135 12 14-10-3
13 University of Vermont 111 13 16-8-2
[b][u]14 St Lawrence University 97 NR 15-7-6[/u][/b]
15 Providence College 51 NR 14-8-4
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Cornell University 19[/u][/b], University of Notre Dame 16,
St. Cloud State University 3, University of Wisconsin 2, [b][u]Quinnipiac University 1.[/u][/b]
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 17-5-4 .7308 2t .6048 1
2 Denver 58 18-6-4 .7143 4t .6015 2
3 Boston Univer 57 17-7-2 .6923 6 .5788* 3
4 Western Michigan56 14-7-3 .6458 10 .5719 4
5 Penn State 55 16-4-2 .7727 1 .5699* 5
[b][u]6 Union 54 18-6-2 .7308 2t .5644* 6[/u][/b]
7 Minnesota 53 15-7-2 .6667 7 .5635 7
[b][u]8 Harvard 52 14-5-2 .7143 4t .5632* 8[/u][/b]
9 North Dakota 51 14-10-3 .5741 23 .5569 9
10 Boston College 50 17-9-2 .6429 11t .5559 10
11 Providence 49 14-8-4 .6154 16 .5540 11
12 Vermont 48 16-8-2 .6538 8 .5532 12
13 Mass-Lowell 47 15-9-3 .6111 18 .5481 13
[b][u]14 St. Lawrence 46 15-7-6 .6429 11t .5479 14[/u][/b]
15 Ohio State 45 12-6-6 .6250 15 .5443* 15
16 St. Cloud State 44 12-13-1 .4808 35 .5418 16
[b][u]17 Cornell 43 12-6-2 .6500 9 .5397 17[/u][/b]
18 Wisconsin 42 13-8-1 .6136 17 .5381 18
19 Omaha 41 14-10-4 .5714 24t .5378 19
20 Air Force 40 16-8-4 .6429 11t .5375* 20
21 Notre Dame 39 14-9-3 .5962 21 .5312 21
22 Miami 38 9-11-6 .4615 38 .5245 22
23t Robert Morris 36 15-8-3 .6346 14 .5239 23
[b][u]23t Quinnipiac 36 14-11-2 .5556 26 .5203 25[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Minnesota-Duluth475.6 .8156 2t 17-5-4 0.7308 2.714 2 182.9
2 Denver 445.3 .8058 4t 18-6-4 0.7143 2.500 1 184.6
3 Boston Univer 326.5 .7546 6 17-7-2 0.6923 2.250 8 150.0
4 Penn State 299.9 .7392 1 16-4-2 0.7727 3.400 36 94.27
5 Western Michigan287.4 .7312 10 14-7-3 0.6458 1.824 7 161.6
[b][u]6 Union 256.7 .7094 2t 18-6-2 0.7308 2.714 34 98.73
7 Harvard 249.7 .7040 4t 14-5-2 0.7143 2.500 31 104.7[/u][/b]
8 Vermont 248.1 .7027 8 16-8-2 0.6538 1.889 13 134.7
9 Minnesota 237.8 .6942 7 15-7-2 0.6667 2.000 18 122.5
10 Boston College 236.9 .6934 11t 17-9-2 0.6429 1.800 14 134.5
11 North Dakota 234.0 .6909 23 14-10-3 0.5741 1.348 3 175.5
12 Providence 232.1 .6892 16 14-8-4 0.6154 1.600 9 147.7
[b][u]13 St. Lawrence 218.7 .6770 11t 15-7-6 0.6429 1.800 16 124.1[/u][/b]
14 Mass-Lowell 208.4 .6669 18 15-9-3 0.6111 1.571 12 134.8
15 Ohio State 196.1 .6540 15 12-6-6 0.6250 1.667 19 120.2
[b][u]16 Cornell 193.0 .6505 9 12-6-2 0.6500 1.857 28 107.2[/u][/b]
17 Omaha 183.1 .6390 24t 14-10-4 0.5714 1.333 10 138.7
18 Wisconsin 180.3 .6357 17 13-8-1 0.6136 1.588 23 115.9
19 Notre Dame 172.6 .6260 21 14-9-3 0.5962 1.476 21 118.6
20 St. Cloud State 161.0 .6105 35 12-13-1 0.4808 0.926 4 173.4
21 Miami 147.2 .5901 38 9-11-6 0.4615 0.857 5 170.7
22 Air Force 146.3 .5888 11t 16-8-4 0.6429 1.800 40 83.04
[b][u]23 Quinnipiac 143.3 .5841 26 14-11-2 0.5556 1.250 24 115.6
24 Yale 142.8 .5832 24t 10-7-4 0.5714 1.333 26 108.5[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
January 30, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 24- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 18- 4-4 131 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 20- 4-4 110 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 19- 5-3 102 4
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 21- 3-2 101 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 19- 3-4 81 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 14- 6-3 47 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 17- 3-6 42 7
[b][u]9 Princeton 13- 6-3 32 9
10 Quinnipiac 16- 6-5 22 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: North Dakota 5, Boston University 1, [b][u]Colgate 1.[/u][/b]
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 24-2-1 .9074 2 .6687* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 21-3-2 .8462 3 .6212* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 18-4-4 .7692 6t .6150* 4
4 Boston College 32 19-3-4 .8077 4 .6076* 5
5 Minnesota 31 19-5-3 .7593 8 .6063* 6
[b][u]6 Clarkson 30 20-4-4 .7857 5 .6058* 7
7 Cornell 29 14-6-3 .6739 12 .5667* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 17-3-6 .7692 6t .5633* 9
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 27 16-6-5 .6852 11 .5552* 10
10 Colgate 26 18-7-3 .6964 10 .5547* 11
11t Princeton 24 13-6-3 .6591 13 .5491* 12[/u][/b]
11t Northeastern 24 16-9-3 .6250 14 .5423 13
13t North Dakota 23 13-9-6 .5714 16 .5394 14
13t Boston Univer 23 13-9-5 .5741 15 .5386 15
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1642. .9300 1 24-2-1 0.9074 9.800 2 197.0
2 Minnesota-Duluth645.3 .8440 5t 18-4-4 0.7692 3.333 1 204.6
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence 603.1 .8355 2 21-3-2 0.8462 5.500 10 120.6[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 548.9 .8232 7 19-5-3 0.7593 3.154 3 183.0
[b][u]5 Clarkson 536.0 .8200 4 20-4-4 0.7857 3.667 7 154.9[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 466.2 .8004 3 19-3-4 0.8077 4.200 12 119.3
[b][u]7 Cornell 249.7 .6947 10 14-6-3 0.6739 2.067 9 124.8
8 Quinnipiac 199.5 .6502 9 16-6-5 0.6852 2.176 19 94.50[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 198.3 .6489 5t 17-3-6 0.7692 3.333 31 62.86
[b][u]10 Colgate 188.6 .6386 8 18-7-3 0.6964 2.294 25 84.85[/u][/b]
11 North Dakota 187.7 .6376 14 13-9-6 0.5714 1.333 8 142.2
[b][u]12 Princeton 175.9 .6240 11 13-6-3 0.6591 1.933 21 93.80[/u][/b]
13 Northeastern 166.7 .6127 12 16-9-3 0.6250 1.667 17 101.9
14 Boston Univer 156.0 .5984 13 13-9-5 0.5741 1.348 13 117.0
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4XI2gn8eA
I'll post USA polls later as they're not out yet.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (46) 18- 5-5 996 1
2 Denver ( 4) 18- 6-4 950 2
3 Boston University 18- 7-2 879 3
[b][u]4 Harvard 15- 5-2 814 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 17- 7-2 796 7
[b][u]6 Union 19- 7-2 723 4[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 18- 9-2 721 8
8 Western Michigan 15- 7-4 618 9
9 Massachusetts-Lowell 17- 9-3 610 10
10 Penn State 16- 6-2 533 6
11 Providence 16- 8-4 435 15
[b][u]12 Cornell 14- 6-2 380 16[/u][/b]
12 Ohio State 13- 7-6 380 11
14 North Dakota 15-11-3 368 13
15 Vermont 16- 9-3 316 12
16 Notre Dame 15- 9-4 259 17
17 Wisconsin 15- 8-1 232 18
[b][u]18 St. Lawrence 15- 8-6 221 14
19 Quinnipiac 16-11-2 84 19[/u][/b]
20 Air Force 18- 8-4 60 NR
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State 46, St. Cloud State 45,
Omaha 18, Michigan Tech 12, [b][u]Yale 3,[/u][/b] Robert Morris 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 6, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 507 (31) 1 18-5-5
2 University of Denver 470 (3) 2 18-6-4
3 Boston University 444 3 18-7-2
4 University of Minnesota 383 7 17-7-2
[b][u]5 Harvard University 371 6 15-5-2
6 Union College 326 5 19-7-2[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 325 8 18-9-2
8 Western Michigan Univer 264 9 15-7-4
9 Penn State University 227 4 16-6-2
10 UMass Lowell 208 10 17-9-3
11 Univer of North Dakota 116 12 15-11-3
12 Providence College 113 15 16-8-4
13 Ohio State University 108 11 13-7-6
14 University of Vermont 78 13 16-9-3
[b][u]15 Cornell University 72 NR 14-6-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 32[/u][/b], University of Wisconsin 21,
University of Notre Dame 12, United States Air Force Academy 2, St. Cloud State University 1.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth59 18-5-5 .7321 1 .6056 1
2 Denver 58 18-6-4 .7143 3t .5995 2
3 Boston Univer 57 18-7-2 .7037 6 .5778* 3
4 Minnesota 56 17-7-2 .6923 7 .5714* 4
5 Western Michigan55 15-7-4 .6538 11 .5667 5
[b][u]6 Harvard 54 15-5-2 .7273 2 .5655* 6[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 53 18-9-2 .6552 10 .5594 7
[b][u]8 Union 52 19-7-2 .7143 3t .5561* 8[/u][/b]
9 Providence 51 16-8-4 .6429 13 .5557 9
10 North Dakota 50 15-11-3 .5690 25 .5554 10
11 Penn State 49 16-6-2 .7083 5 .5542* 11
12 Mass-Lowell 48 17-9-3 .6379 14 .5529 12
[b][u]13 Cornell 47 14-6-2 .6818 8 .5485 13[/u][/b]
14 Vermont 46 16-9-3 .6250 15t .5483 14
15 Wisconsin 45 15-8-1 .6458 12 .5478 15
16 St. Cloud State 44 13-14-1 .4821 33 .5457 16
17 Air Force 43 18-8-4 .6667 9 .5424* 17
18 Ohio State 42 13-7-6 .6154 18 .5419* 18
19 Omaha 41 14-11-5 .5500 26 .5418 19
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 40 15-8-6 .6207 17 .5415 20[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Minnesota-Duluth503.5 .8234 1 18-5-5 0.7321 2.733 1 191.8
2 Denver 455.8 .8089 3t 18-6-4 0.7143 2.500 2 189.0
3 Boston Univer 331.1 .7567 6 18-7-2 0.7037 2.375 9 144.3
4 Minnesota 289.1 .7320 7 17-7-2 0.6923 2.250 15 132.8
5 West Michigan 280.7 .7264 11 15-7-4 0.6538 1.889 8 152.4
[b][u]6 Harvard 266.6 .7165 2 15-5-2 0.7273 2.667 29 105.0[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 255.3 .7080 10 18-9-2 0.6552 1.900 11 137.5
8 Providence 248.8 .7029 13 16-8-4 0.6429 1.800 10 141.2
9 North Dakota 238.6 .6945 25 15-11-3 0.5690 1.320 4 182.4
[b][u]10 Union 235.9 .6922 3t 19-7-2 0.7143 2.500 35 97.81[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 235.5 .6919 5 16-6-2 0.7083 2.429 34 100.9
12 Mass-Lowell 231.6 .6885 14 17-9-3 0.6379 1.762 14 134.1
13 Vermont 224.1 .6818 15t 16-9-3 0.6250 1.667 12 137.0
[b][u]14 Cornell 223.7 .6814 8 14-6-2 0.6818 2.143 26 108.2[/u][/b]
15 Wisconsin 204.6 .6627 12 15-8-1 0.6458 1.824 22 115.1
[b][u]16 St. Lawrence 195.7 .6533 17 15-8-6 0.6207 1.636 19 121.7[/u][/b]
17 Omaha 189.6 .6464 26 14-11-5 0.5500 1.222 7 156.1
18 Notre Dame 188.8 .6455 20 15-9-4 0.6071 1.545 18 124.0
19 Ohio State 178.8 .6336 18 13-7-6 0.6154 1.600 23 113.8
20 St. Cloud State 171.7 .6247 33 13-14-1 0.4821 0.931 3 183.9
[b][u]21 Quinnipiac 155.6 .6026 22 16-11-2 0.5862 1.417 25 111.1[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 26- 2-1 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 4-4 133 2
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence 23- 3-2 105 5
4 Clarkson 21- 4-5 101 3[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 21- 5-3 100 4
6 Boston College 20- 3-5 86 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 16- 6-3 58 7[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 17- 3-6 45 8
[b][u]9 Quinnipiac 18- 7-5 22 10
10 Princeton 15- 7-3 16 9[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 9.[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4XvatQZfK
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 26-2-1 .9138 2 .6639* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 23-3-2 .8571 3 .6196* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 20-4-4 .7857 5 .6187* 4
4 Boston College 32 20-3-5 .8036 4 .6075* 5
5 Minnesota 31 21-5-3 .7759 7 .6056* 6
[b][u]6 Clarkson 30 21-4-5 .7833 6 .5987* 7
7 Cornell 29 16-6-3 .7000 11 .5674* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 17-3-6 .7692 8 .5619* 9
[b][u]9 Colgate 27 20-7-3 .7167 9 .5568* 10
10 Quinnipiac 26 18-7-5 .6833 12 .5540* 11[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 25 18-9-3 .6500 14 .5489 12
12 Boston Univer 24 13-10-5 .5536 15 .5341 14
[b][u]13 Princeton 23 15-7-3 .6600 13 .5486* 13[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1703. .9321 1 26-2-1 0.9138 10.600 2 189.2
2 Minnesota-Duluth705.1 .8544 4 20-4-4 0.7857 3.667 1 203.7
[b][u]3 St. Lawrence 613.7 .8376 2 23-3-2 0.8571 6.000 15 112.7[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 565.1 .8270 6 21-5-3 0.7759 3.462 4 172.0
[b][u]5 Clarkson 487.7 .8068 5 21-4-5 0.7833 3.615 8 142.2[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 465.6 .8001 3 20-3-5 0.8036 4.091 10 121.5
[b][u]7 Cornell 255.8 .6993 9 16-6-3 0.7000 2.333 14 113.7
8 Colgate 195.8 .6464 8 20-7-3 0.7167 2.529 27 80.09[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 195.1 .6457 7 17-3-6 0.7692 3.333 32 61.87
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 193.5 .6440 10 18-7-5 0.6833 2.158 21 92.16[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 182.9 .6322 12 18-9-3 0.6500 1.857 18 100.6
12 North Dakota 173.6 .6213 14t 13-11-6 0.5333 1.143 6 152.6
[b][u]13 Princeton 169.0 .6156 11 15-7-3 0.6600 1.941 23 89.45[/u][/b]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4XuQRiZEi
Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Quote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
We've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 6, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 507 (31) 1 18-5-5
2 University of Denver 470 (3) 2 18-6-4
3 Boston University 444 3 18-7-2
4 University of Minnesota 383 7 17-7-2
[b][u]5 Harvard University 371 6 15-5-2
6 Union College 326 5 19-7-2[/u][/b]
7 Boston College 325 8 18-9-2
8 Western Michigan Univer 264 9 15-7-4
9 Penn State University 227 4 16-6-2
10 UMass Lowell 208 10 17-9-3
11 Univer of North Dakota 116 12 15-11-3
12 Providence College 113 15 16-8-4
13 Ohio State University 108 11 13-7-6
14 University of Vermont 78 13 16-9-3
[b][u]15 Cornell University 72 NR 14-6-2[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]St. Lawrence University 32[/u][/b], University of Wisconsin 21,
University of Notre Dame 12, United States Air Force Academy 2, St. Cloud State University 1.
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
Yeah, sorry. Can't do it. Still rooting for BU next week.
Quote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked." Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked." Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.
Yes, but then they wouldn't be publishing a 'Top 15' - some weeks it would be a Top 16, Top 22 etc. depending on how many got votes
Quote from: nshapiroQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaWe've officially gotten ranked in the USA poll.
I don't understand why the Also aren't "ranked." Seems clear to me that SLU is 16th.
Yes, but then they wouldn't be publishing a 'Top 15' - some weeks it would be a Top 16, Top 22 etc. depending on how many got votes
They're publishing "The Top At Least 15." :)
Still 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.
But .0017 closer to 12th...
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.
But .0017 closer to 12th...
And that much further away from 14...
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
Yeah, sorry. Can't do it. Still rooting for BU next week.
So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...
Quote from: abmarksQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
Yeah, sorry. Can't do it. Still rooting for BU next week.
So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...
No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard. One of the reasons anyway.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
Yeah, sorry. Can't do it. Still rooting for BU next week.
So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...
No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard. One of the reasons anyway.
I would, sometimes, choose major pain for Harvard in exchange for a wee bit of pain for Cornell. It's like buying a Rolex for a dollar. I like money but can't resist a great deal.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: abmarksQuote from: DafatoneQuote from: GBR1234Perhaps it would have been better posting this here rather than in Bracketology thread:
>For those far more familiar with pairwise than me... would it be better for Harvard or Northeastern to win tonight for improving or maintaining CU's #13 pairwise ranking?
Presumably Harvard. It's possible Northeastern factors in somehow, but roughly speaking the pairwise is just RPI these days, and RPI is a factor of your record, your opponents' record, and your opponents' opponents' record, give or take some slight factors.
And harvard is not just an opponent, but they are a very frequent opponents opponent. So Harvard win bumps up the RPI of every ECAC team
Yeah, sorry. Can't do it. Still rooting for BU next week.
So basically you hate Harvard more than you love Cornell...
No...I love Cornell, which is why I hate Harvard. One of the reasons anyway.
I would, sometimes, choose major pain for Harvard in exchange for a wee bit of pain for Cornell. It's like buying a Rolex for a dollar. I like money but can't resist a great deal.
Scheez, my Rolex was $10.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: Al DeFlorioStill 13 in pairwise after Colgate win.
But .0017 closer to 12th...
And that much further away from 14...
HA! Engineers and Engineering perspectives.::laugh::
Look who (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2017/02/08_team_of_the_week_northern.php) is helping our pairwise.
We have now completed the middle part of the schedule that was last year's Death March. In 2016 in games 9-15 we went 0-5-2. This year over the same span we went 4-2-1. A gain of 7 points in 7 games (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_ECAC.html) over the prior year's performance is very rare.
Also, we are now officially "warmer (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Warmth_ECAC.html)" in ECAC play than at any time since the end of 2012.
Quote from: TrotskyWe have now completed the middle part of the schedule that was last year's Death March. In 2016 in games 9-15 we went 0-5-2. This year over the same span we went 4-2-1. A gain of 7 points in 7 games (http://www.tbrw.info/index.html?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Color_ECAC.html) over the prior year's performance is very rare.
Also, we are now officially "warmer (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Warmth_ECAC.html)" in ECAC play than at any time since the end of 2012.
It is great that the team was able to bounce back from the Harvard / Dartmouth weekend. But I can't help looking at the 4-2-1 record, and thinking how easily it could have been 7-0. (And yes, I watched last weekend's games, and know that it also could easily have been 2-4-1.)
Merrimack with a rare win at BC has bumped Cornell up to 12 in the Pairwise.
Great results for Cornell tonight in ECAC play.
Princeton over St. Lawrence 3-1.
Harvard over Union 6-2.
Clarkson over Quinnipiac 4-2.
Dartmouth over RPI 2-1, but I don't think that one matters much.
Quote from: andyw2100Great results for Cornell tonight in ECAC play.
Princeton over St. Lawrence 3-1.
Harvard over Union 6-2.
Clarkson over Quinnipiac 4-2.
Dartmouth over RPI 2-1, but I don't think that one matters much.
I'm not so sure H winning is good for us, but Q and StL losing is definitely good news.
Quote from: BearLoverI'm not so sure H winning is good for us, but Q and StL losing is definitely good news.
We were talking about this in another thread. A tie may have been better.
Quote from: JasonN95Merrimack with a rare win at BC has bumped Cornell up to 12 in the Pairwise.
Rare is right. Apparently that's their first win in Chestnut Hill in approximately 20 years.
Now up to 11.
And now Cornell has moved to 11th passing Union with its loss to Harvard.
Quote from: IcebergQuote from: JasonN95Merrimack with a rare win at BC has bumped Cornell up to 12 in the Pairwise.
Rare is right. Apparently that's their first win in Chestnut Hill in approximately 20 years.
And Lowell beat BU, and tOSU beat the Goofers. Not a bad night!
Quote from: JasonN95And now Cornell has moved to 11th passing Union with its loss to Harvard.
... aaaaaaaaaand back into a tie for 13th.
huge games the next 2 weeks with Union and St Law. I dont think we can get swept either of the next 2 weeks and stay above the cut line. Oh if hockey was only a 20 min game..
With five games remaining. each game seems to increase with importance. Hanging around the 13th spot (pairwise) is precarious to say the least.
It would be nice to enter the post season firmly secured to an NCAA birth but that's not likely. The old saying, one game at a time is the only approach to
take beginning with Brown this afternoon. On paper, this should clearly be a CU win but if there is one thing I am certain of, there is no such thing.
Quote from: upprdeckhuge games the next 2 weeks with Union and St Law. I dont think we can get swept either of the next 2 weeks and stay above the cut line. Oh if hockey was only a 20 min game..
As is so often the response to this sort of statement, if we get swept either of the next two weeks we probably don't really deserve an at-large berth anyway.
In any event, the Pairwise continues shifting all the way through the conference tournaments, too. I haven't remotely lost hope.
what does it say about the PWR that st cloud may be under .500 and still get into the tourney?
they are already under .500 in their league
they played a tough schedule though.
Blame RPI, Brown, and (to a slightly lesser degree) Colgate.
The rest of the ECAC seems to be about its usual strength, but the bottom three teams are dragging everything down.
Being at .500 is a requirement for getting into the tournament as an at-large bid. St. Cloud would be out.
so lets root for denver this week and CC next week.
Lets hope it doesn't come to this, but with two weekends left does anyone know what the tie breakers are for final standings for the season? CU quite possibly could tie for any spots from first thru fourth. I'm most curious about the 4th spot with Quin although that would require doing poorly these last four games.
I thought it was h2h and then maybe its record against team ahead of you.
1. Head-to-head record
2. League wins
3. Record against top four
4. Record against top eight
5. Goal differential head-to-head
6. Goal differential against top four
7. Goal differential against top eight
I'll post it all after the Beanpot results are in, but we're 12 in USCHO poll.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Minnesota-Duluth (44) 18- 5-5 993 1
2 Denver ( 6) 20- 6-4 955 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 17- 5-2 885 4[/u][/b]
4 Boston University 19- 8-2 850 3
5 Minnesota 18- 8-2 773 5
6 Massachusetts-Lowell 19- 9-3 698 9
[b][u]7 Union 20- 8-2 665 6[/u][/b]
8 Western Michigan 16- 8-4 615 8
9 Penn State 18- 6-2 614 10
10 Providence 18- 8-4 566 11
11 Boston College 18-11-2 496 7
[b][u]12 Cornell 16- 6-3 472 12[/u][/b]
13 North Dakota 15-11-3 395 14
14 Ohio State 14- 8-6 369 12
15 Notre Dame 17- 9-4 310 16
16 Vermont 17-10-3 252 15
[b][u]17 St. Lawrence 15- 9-6 127 18[/u][/b]
18 St. Cloud State 15-14-1 125 NR
19 Air Force 19- 8-5 111 20
20 Wisconsin 15-10-1 88 17
Others receiving votes: Omaha 51, [b][u]Quinnipiac 40[/u][/b],
Bemidji State 36, Michigan Tech 7, [b][u]Clarkson 4[/u][/b], Canisius 3.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 Univer Minnesota Duluth 506 (30) 1 18-5-5
2 University of Denver 478 (4) 2 20-6-4
[b][u]3 Harvard University 420 5 17-5-2[/u][/b]
4 Boston University 418 3 19-8-2
5 University of Minnesota 371 4 18-8-2
6 UMass Lowell 279 10 19-9-3
[b][u]7 Union College 275 6 20-8-2[/u][/b]
8 Penn State University 262 9 18-6-2
9 Western Michigan Univer 259 8 16-8-4
10 Providence College 210 12 18-8-4
11 Boston College 186 7 18-11-2
12 Univer of North Dakota 128 11 15-11-3
[b][u]13 Cornell University 116 15 16-6-3[/u][/b]
14 Ohio State University 87 13 14-8-6
15 St Cloud State Univer 34 NR 15-14-1
Others receiving votes: University of Vermont 23, University of Notre Dame 19,
[b][u]St. Lawrence University 6[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 3.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Minnesota-Duluth 59 18-5-5 .7321 3 .6078 1
2 Denver 58 20-6-4 .7333 2 .5995 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 57 18-5-2 .7600 1 .5816* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 56 18-8-2 .6786 7 .5691* 4
5 Boston University 55 19-9-2 .6667 9t .5673* 5
6 Penn State 54 18-6-2 .7308 4 .5654* 6
7 Western Michigan 53 16-8-4 .6429 12 .5653 7
8t Providence 51 18-8-4 .6667 9t .5581 8
8t Massachusetts-Lowell 51 19-9-3 .6613 11 .5575 9
10 North Dakota 50 15-11-3 .5690 24 .5550 10
[b][u]11 Union 49 20-8-2 .7000 5t .5533* 11[/u][/b]
12 St. Cloud State 48 15-14-1 .5167 29t .5507 12
[b][u]13t Cornell 47 16-6-3 .7000 5t .5496 13[/u][/b]
13t Boston College 47 18-12-2 .5938 21 .5422 14
15 Ohio State 45 14-8-6 .6071 15 .5421* 15
16 Vermont 44 17-10-3 .6167 14 .5408 16
17 Omaha 43 15-12-5 .5469 27 .5400 17
18 Notre Dame 42 17-9-4 .6333 13 .5397 18
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence 41 15-9-6 .6000 17t .5382 19[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Minnesota-Duluth 518.5 .8275 3 18-5-5 0.7321 2.733 1 197.5
2 Denver 468.1 .8128 2 20-6-4 0.7333 2.750 5 176.8
[b][u]3 Harvard 351.0 .7668 1 18-5-2 0.7600 3.167 23 117.0[/u][/b]
4 Boston University290.3 .7327 9t 19-9-2 0.6667 2.000 9 148.7
5 Penn State 281.9 .7272 4 18-6-2 0.7308 2.714 29 108.4
6 Minnesota 278.4 .7249 7 18-8-2 0.6786 2.111 10 135.7
7 Western Michigan 272.1 .7205 12 16-8-4 0.6429 1.800 8 154.5
8 Providence 261.7 .7129 9t 18-8-4 0.6667 2.000 13 134.0
9 Mass-Lowell 255.5 .7082 11 19-9-3 0.6613 1.952 14 133.8
10 North Dakota 238.6 .6946 24 15-11-3 0.5690 1.320 2 182.5
[b][u]11 Cornell 236.3 .6926 5t 16-6-3 0.7000 2.333 33 105.0
12 Union 224.9 .6825 5t 20-8-2 0.7000 2.333 36 99.38[/u][/b]
13 Vermont 207.9 .6661 14 17-10-3 0.6167 1.609 15 131.3
14 Notre Dame 202.3 .6604 13 17-9-4 0.6333 1.727 20 119.3
15 Boston College 195.2 .6527 21 18-12-2 0.5938 1.462 11 135.2
16 St. Cloud State 193.5 .6508 29t 15-14-1 0.5167 1.069 4 181.4
17 Omaha 191.9 .6491 27 15-12-5 0.5469 1.207 7 159.9
18 Ohio State 181.2 .6366 15 14-8-6 0.6071 1.545 21 119.1
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence 180.7 .6360 17t 15-9-6 0.6000 1.500 18 122.1[/u][/b]
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 27- 2-2 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 5-5 134 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 23- 4-5 110 4[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 23- 5-3 105 5
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 23- 4-3 97 3[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 22- 4-5 79 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 17- 6-4 57 7[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 19- 3-6 41 8
[b][u]9 Princeton 16- 8-3 25 10
10 Quinnipiac 18- 8-6 16 9[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Colgate 10[/u][/b], Northeastern 1.
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 26-2-1 .9138 2 .6629* 2
[b][u]2 St. Lawrence 34 23-3-2 .8571 3 .6213* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 20-4-4 .7857 4 .6178* 4
4 Minnesota 32 22-5-3 .7833 5t .6070* 5
5 Boston College 31 21-4-5 .7833 5t .6034* 6
[b][u]6 Clarkson 30 21-4-5 .7833 5t .5992* 7
7 Cornell 29 16-6-4 .6923 11 .5647* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 18-3-6 .7778 8 .5612* 9
[b][u]9 Colgate 27 21-7-3 .7258 9 .5587* 10
10 Quinnipiac 26 18-7-5 .6833 12 .5545* 11[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 25 19-10-3 .6406 14 .5520 12
[b][u]12 Princeton 24 15-7-3 .6600 13 .5494* 13[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1758. .9342 1 27-2-2 0.9032 9.333 2 215.9
2 Minnesota-Duluth695.5 .8529 7 20-5-5 0.7500 3.000 1 241.9
3 Minnesota 618.9 .8388 4t 23-5-3 0.7903 3.769 3 173.3
[b][u]4 Clarkson 530.3 .8186 3 23-4-5 0.7969 3.923 7 142.8
5 St. Lawrence 486.1 .8065 2 23-4-3 0.8167 4.455 13 116.7[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 445.3 .7936 4t 22-4-5 0.7903 3.769 9 124.7
[b][u]7 Cornell 246.7 .6925 9 17-6-4 0.7037 2.375 17 107.6
8 Colgate 205.6 .6565 8 22-7-3 0.7344 2.765 27 77.11[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 201.3 .6521 6 19-3-6 0.7857 3.667 32 58.15
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 192.6 .6431 10 18-8-6 0.6562 1.909 19 103.0
11 Princeton 189.9 .6401 11 16-8-3 0.6481 1.842 18 105.5[/u][/b]
12 Northeastern 189.2 .6394 12 19-10-3 0.6406 1.783 16 108.1
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4YfCvHPd7
Could someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?
Quote from: SwampyCould someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?
It didn't drop them behind any other teams in RPI, and it didn't flip their comparison with Providence, with whom they are behind in RPI but ahead in common opponents and head to head. Had the loss to NE been enough to make them lose to Providence in common opponents, that would have done it.
Out of curiosity, had Harvard won the Beanpot in 2016 and 2015 would that have put us in the NC$$?
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: SwampyCould someone please explain how BC lost to Northeastern but this seems to have had no effect on the pairwise ranking, in which we're tied with BC at 13th?
It didn't drop them behind any other teams in RPI, and it didn't flip their comparison with Providence, with whom they are behind in RPI but ahead in common opponents and head to head. Had the loss to NE been enough to make them lose to Providence in common opponents, that would have done it.
it does however add some dynamic if those teams plays a series in the HE tourney.. Northeastern would flip that PWR if they were to win that series now.
same thing for us with STL this weekend. a win means they cant flip the pwr with them if we played again since it would probably only be a 1 game thing.
and beating union again would give us a shot to flip that one in a playoff game too.
Speculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.
Quote from: HookingSpeculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.
I don't see a soul here "blaming the luck of the draw." Only you, it would seem, with your unrelenting negativity, would even think of that. Looking ahead at the schedule of your team and those it's competing with for first place, a playoff slot, or whatever, whether it's major league baseball, the NFL, or any other sport, is something fans do as a matter of course. It's simply part of being a fan.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: HookingSpeculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
I hope this is not the case. I trust winning their remaining games will insure them success and there is no reason to praise or blame the luck of the draw.
I don't see a soul here "blaming the luck of the draw." Only you, it would seem, with your unrelenting negativity, would even think of that. Looking ahead at the schedule of your team and those it's competing with for first place, a playoff slot, or whatever, whether it's major league baseball, the NFL, or any other sport, is something fans do as a matter of course. It's simply part of being a fan.
I gotta come down squarely with Al on this one. I truly believe that if Cornell takes care of business, they'll get into the NCAA tournament, and if they don't get in, they didn't take care of business. I don't believe that slipping from #15 to #16 and getting bumped for a lower-PWR-ranked ACA tournament winner means we got screwed, it means we finished too low to ensure ourselves a slot. Now, of course, truly crazy shit could happen - with six conferences now getting autobids, we could finish #11 and still get pushed down to #17 by a torrent of Cinderellas winning their conference tourneys. Then I would think we got screwed. But that's highly unlikely.
Yes, at this stage of the game, winning out should certainly mean we have a strong shot at an at-large bid.
As Al suggested, taking a closer look at how the math works doesn't mean we're looking for something to blame other than Cornell's performance if we don't get in. It just means we're geeks and nerds who enjoy looking at how the math works and speculating on how the math could shake out and affect us in different ways.
Quote from: BeeeejYes, at this stage of the game, winning out should certainly mean we have a strong shot at an at-large bid.
Winning out means the auto bid and the national championship. ::cheer::
Quote from: HookingSpeculation about the outcome of games in which other teams play other teams apparently assumes Cornell's playoff future is out of their hands.
No.
Getting lucky is a necessary condition for making the tournament for all but the very best teams. Most teams in the NCAAs have more things break their way than not over the course of a season. It's silly to dismiss luck as a major factor in determining who comes out on top from a small sample of hockey games. Nothing wrong with scoreboard-watching.
I apologize for my apparently disturbing statement about "the luck of the draw". I wished to suggest that Cornell's playoff hopes truly ARE in the team's hands and it's best for the players and probably fans to concentrate on winning the remaining games, one at a time, rather than become distracted by teams Cornell won't even play again in the regular season - statistical analyses not withstanding. Focus upon Cornell winning rather than unscheduled opponent's winning or losing is not "negativity" in my book.
Quote from: Beeeej........taking a closer look at how the math works doesn't mean we're looking for something to blame other than Cornell's performance if we don't get in. It just means we're geeks and nerds who enjoy looking at how the math works and speculating on how the math could shake out and affect us in different ways.
And, a someone who is curious about such things, but not about to work it out for himself, I thank you "geeks and nerds" for offering up the results of your fun...
It is greatly appreciated... In my younger days, I used to do such things... Now, I read your musings & wait to see what happens. :-)
Quote from: rediceIn my younger days, I used to do such things... Now, I read your musings & wait to see what happens. :-)
This is true for pretty much all of us except John.
Sensitivity analysis allows us to better manage expectations. In some cases, it's "win or we are not as well off." In this case it's "win or we may be screwed."
Based on the Pair Wise Metrics on CHN, Cornell has a 76% chance of making the NCAA tournament. To quote that great scholar Al Davis, "Just won Baby" and all will work itself out.
Quote from: wakester2468Based on the Pair Wise Metrics on CHN, Cornell has a 76% chance of making the NCAA tournament. To quote that great scholar Al Davis, "Just won Baby" and all will work itself out.
74 on playoffstatus (http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournperformprob.html). Just win indeed.
BTW, beating SLU tonight moves us to 99% chance of a bye (http://playoffstatus.com/ecachockey/cornellwhatif.html) and
95 of top 3, while a loss drops us to 82 /
53.
CC-Denver and Miami-Minn-Duluth tonight in matchups of mediocre teams we've played versus the top two teams in the country.
By my calculations, which admittedly have not always been perfect, Cornell has already clinched a first round bye. In the worst case scenario, there could either be a three way tie for 3rd, a 3 way tie for 4th, a 2 way tie for 3rd or a 2 way tie for 4th. In all instances, Cornell has the tie breaker beating STL
twice and splitting with Q. If it gets to the next tie breaking criteria which the record against the top four teams, Cornell also wins that and even with a loss against Union that record would be better than all others. I would like to know if anyone sees it differently.
Quote from: wakester2468By my calculations, which admittedly have not always been perfect, Cornell has already clinched a first round bye. In the worst case scenario, there could either be a three way tie for 3rd, a 3 way tie for 4th, a 2 way tie for 3rd or a 2 way tie for 4th. In all instances, Cornell has the tie breaker beating STL
twice and splitting with Q. If it gets to the next tie breaking criteria which the record against the top four teams, Cornell also wins that and even with a loss against Union that record would be better than all others. I would like to know if anyone sees it differently.
What about if Cornell loses out and Q wins out, Cornell and Q wold be tied with 27 points. Assume SLU wins enough games to get to 28 points. The second tiebreaker is league wins, which Q would have one more of if they win out.
You are correct. There still exists the chance with three CU losses and three Q wins that they end up with 13 win to our 12. That does appear to be the only combination where we lose a first round bye. Good catch.
lets hope they win tonight and take care of business vs RPI so that the union game is at worst for 2nd place.
if we are looking at stopping a 2 game losing streak and falling out of a first round bye the NCAA pwr will be having huge issues as well.
2 out of the next 3 and a 2nd round sweep probably puts us on the edge again.
3 for 3 and a sweep probably locks us in.
anything less is out of our control.
Quote from: upprdecklets hope they win tonight and take care of business vs RPI so that the union game is at worst for 2nd place.
if we are looking at stopping a 2 game losing streak and falling out of a first round bye the NCAA pwr will be having huge issues as well.
2 out of the next 3 and a 2nd round sweep probably puts us on the edge again.
3 for 3 and a sweep probably locks us in.
anything less is out of our control.
You mean if we beat Union, it's at worst 2
nd, correct? If we lose to Union, I think our "at worst" could be third.
yes.. poorly worded.
I imagine this has been answered before, so forgive me for asking, but how do ties figure into PWR?
Currently 11th in PWR. Only 8 10-thousandths of a point behind Providence in RPICH.
USCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!
Anyone know why Providence wins their comparison with UMass-Lowell?
UML had the lead in RPI, Providence wins head-to-head. But the common opponents column is a tie, which should result in a tie in the comparison (with RPI being the tiebreaker).
Instead, USCHO has Providence winning 2-1, despite showing a 1-1-1.
Quote from: DafatoneAnyone know why Providence wins their comparison with UMass-Lowell?
UML had the lead in RPI, Providence wins head-to-head. But the common opponents column is a tie, which should result in a tie in the comparison (with RPI being the tiebreaker).
Instead, USCHO has Providence winning 2-1, despite showing a 1-1-1.
Huh. Apparently going 2-0 against another team doesn't just net you one "win" for the pairwise. It's a point per head to head victory.
Learn something new every day.
Quote from: SwampyUSCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!
CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: SwampyUSCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!
CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.
Hardly seems fair to drop far after losing to a team as good as Minnesota, but okay, I'll take it.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: SwampyUSCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!
CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.
I saw the last few minutes of that game. What a turnaround!!
A few observations after the Clarkson game tie. Unless significant upsets occur the last weekend, we are destined to finish 3rd. Harvard would have to lose twice at home, Union would have to lose twice while we sweep. Not sure I see Colgate beating Union. The other likely thing to happen is that Clarkson will finish 6th with St Lawrence and Quin finishing 4th and 5th with the possibility of that order reversed. Thus, now that we have secured a first round bye and most likely 3rd, the conclusion is that our quarterfinal match up is with Clarkson. Honestly, while we tied them last night, it was an away game and senior night for them. Of all possible match ups, in my opinion, this is preferable to Quinn or Yale who really bottled us up defensively recently.
In one week we will see if I know what the hell I am talking about
Clarkson has been a good matchup but really they have generated very little offense against us even while scoring goals.. 2 of the 3 last night were simple play mistakes by the D. hopefully the real Angello shows up. He as all over the ice last week and this weekend generated very little.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: RichHQuote from: SwampyUSCHO is currently showing us at #10 in PWR, with Providence and SCS tied for 11th. In RPI, it's the reverse. Providence is #10, and we're #11 -- separated by 0.0005 points!
CHN currently has us in a tie for 9th with Providence after PSU's devastating OT loss to Minnesota.
I saw the last few minutes of that game. What a turnaround!!
Look at the shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2017/02/18/minnesota-vs-penn-state/).
Quote from: wakester2468A few observations after the Clarkson game tie. Unless significant upsets occur the last weekend, we are destined to finish 3rd. Harvard would have to lose twice at home, Union would have to lose twice while we sweep. Not sure I see Colgate beating Union. The other likely thing to happen is that Clarkson will finish 6th with St Lawrence and Quin finishing 4th and 5th with the possibility of that order reversed. Thus, now that we have secured a first round bye and most likely 3rd, the conclusion is that our quarterfinal match up is with Clarkson. Honestly, while we tied them last night, it was an away game and senior night for them. Of all possible match ups, in my opinion, this is preferable to Quinn or Yale who really bottled us up defensively recently.
In one week we will see if I know what the hell I am talking about
I think that's pretty sound analysis, except for the part where it assumes Clarkson will get through its first-round match-up with putative #11, RPI. In this case that happens to be a reasonably safe assumption, but it does bear mentioning.
PlayoffStatus.com has our odds at:
1 1%
2 15%
3 83%
4 1%
We are big Colgate and North Country fans next weekend (to be honest, if Harvard is going to shit the bed for one weekend I'd rather it be LP).
The odds for 6th are:
Qpc 1%
Clk 92%
Yal 7%
Looking at the difference between the most and second-most likely to finish in a given position:
1 Uni/Hvd 15%
2 Hvd/Uni 24[hr] 3 [b]Cor[/b]/Uni 70[hr] 4 [b]SLU[/b]/Qpc 68[hr] 5 [b]Qpc[/b]/SLU 68[hr] 6 [b]Clk[/b]/Yal 85[hr] 7 Yal/Prn 46
8 Drt/Prn 15
9 Cgt/Drt 10
10 Cgt/Prn 5[hr]11 [b]RPI[/b]/Brn 96[hr]12 [b]Brn[/b]/RPI 96
I think Brown and RPI are probably going down in the QF. But Princeton is dangerous and they could be anywhere from 7 to 10, each with odds over 17%.
Current matchups:
12 Brn @ 5 Qpc
11 RPI @ 6 Clk
10 Prn @ 7 Yal
9 Drt @ 8 Cgt
If chalk in the first round, then:
8 Cgt @ 1 Uni
7 Yal @ 2 Hvd
6 Clk @ 3 Cor
5 Qpc @ 4 SLU
And if that held, then at LP:
4 SLU v 1 Uni
3 Cor v 2 Hvd
Going into the final weekend, we are in third, finishing the RS with Union/RPI. St. Lawrence 2 points behind Cornell, finishes at Dartmouth and Harvard. I believe St. Lawrence needs at least a win and tie (3 pts) and Cornell a 0-point weekend to pass us since we win the H2H tiebreaker vs. SLU.
1. Union 31 Pts.
2. Harvard 30
3. Cornell 28
4. SLU 26
5. Quinn 23 vs. Brown ECAC first round
6. Clark 21 vs. RPI
7. Yale 18 vs. Princeton
8. Dart 16 vs. Colgate
9. Colgate 15
9. Prince 15
11. RPI 10
12. Brown 7
In the quarterfinals in two weeks, the top four play the bottom four survivors, #1 say Union gets the lowest survivor, not the winner of the 8/9 games. We'd get the third-lowest survivor, right now #6 Clarkson. But if one 9-12 finisher wins, the third lowest could be Yale. Yale's forecheck seems as if it was created with Cornell in mind.
We are far more likely to draw Yale if we move above 3rd, but the odds of that are pretty low (16% combined).
Unless significant upsets occur the last weekend, we are destined to finish 3rd. Harvard would have to lose twice at home, Union would have to lose twice while we sweep. Not sure I see Colgate beating Union. The other likely thing to happen is that Clarkson will finish 6th with St Lawrence and Quin finishing 4th and 5th with the possibility of that order reversed. Thus, now that we have secured a first round bye and most likely 3rd, the conclusion is that our quarterfinal match up is with Clarkson. Honestly, while we tied them last night, it was an away game and senior night for them. Of all possible match ups, in my opinion, this is preferable to Quinn or Yale who really bottled us up defensively recently.
In one week we will see if I know what the hell I am talking about[/quote]
The above is not quite right.
We need to gain three points on Harvard and three points on Union to take first.
Harvard could lose and tie, Union could tie or lose on Friday night and if we win both games, we would take first.
If Harvard does lose twice, and Union loses Friday night, we could take first with a win over RPI and a tie with Union.
No games till next Thursday, so I'm posting the PWR and Krach now and I'll add the Polls tomorrow, even though they're meaningless.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Denver 59 22-6-4 .7500 2 .6033 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth58 19-5-6 .7333 3 .6032 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 57 20-5-2 .7778 1 .5838* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 56 20-8-2 .7000 6 .5797* 4
5 Western Michigan55 18-8-4 .6667 11 .5727 5
6 Boston Univer 54 20-9-3 .6719 9t .5634 6
[b][u]7 Union 53 22-8-2 .7188 4 .5567* 7[/u][/b]
8 Mass-Lowell 51 20-9-3 .6719 9t .5560 8
9t Providence 50 18-9-5 .6406 12t .5542 9
[b][u]9t Cornell 50 17-6-4 .7037 5 .5535 10[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 49 18-8-2 .6786 8 .5519* 11
12 St. Cloud State 48 15-14-1 .5167 29 .5497 12
13 Ohio State 47 16-8-6 .6333 14 .5471* 13
14 North Dakota 46 15-13-3 .5323 28 .5466 14
15t Air Force 45 21-8-5 .6912 7 .5445* 15
15t Notre Dame 45 18-9-5 .6406 12t .5418 16
17t Vermont 43 17-10-5 .6094 18 .5415 17
17t Boston College 43 18-12-4 .5882 21 .5410 18
19 Omaha 41 15-12-5 .5469 26t .5391 19
20 Wisconsin 40 17-10-1 .6250 15t .5380 20
21t Northeastern 38 15-12-5 .5469 26t .5298 21
[b][u]21t St. Lawrence 38 15-10-7 .5781 23 .5286 22
21t Quinnipiac 38 17-13-2 .5625 25 .5184 23[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Denver 513.6 .8254 2 22-6-4 0.7500 3.000 6 178.2
2 Minnesota-Duluth509.5 .8243 3 19-5-6 0.7333 2.750 2 192.5
[b][u]3 Harvard 377.3 .7783 1 20-5-2 0.7778 3.500 23 114.1[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 320.6 .7502 6 20-8-2 0.7000 2.333 11 141.7
5 Western Michigan318.0 .7488 11 18-8-4 0.6667 2.000 7 162.9
6 Boston Univer 293.4 .7340 9t 20-9-3 0.6719 2.048 9 146.7
7 Mass-Lowell 261.6 .7122 9t 20-9-3 0.6719 2.048 15 130.8
[b][u]8 Union 248.2 .7019 4 22-8-2 0.7188 2.556 36 100.3
9 Cornell 246.9 .7008 5 17-6-4 0.7037 2.375 32 107.6[/u][/b]
10 Providence 242.5 .6973 12t 18-9-5 0.6406 1.783 12 138.6
11 Penn State 239.8 .6950 8 18-8-2 0.6786 2.111 22 116.8
12 Notre Dame 220.2 .6776 12t 18-9-5 0.6406 1.783 16 125.8
13 North Dakota 217.2 .6747 28 15-13-3 0.5323 1.138 3 191.6
14 Vermont 209.0 .6668 18 17-10-5 0.6094 1.560 13 135.9
15 Boston College 200.8 .6583 21 18-12-4 0.5882 1.429 10 142.1
16 St. Cloud State 195.5 .6525 29 15-14-1 0.5167 1.069 5 183.3
17 Omaha 193.4 .6503 26t 15-12-5 0.5469 1.207 8 161.2
18 Ohio State 192.2 .6489 14 16-8-6 0.6333 1.727 25 113.4
19 Wisconsin 191.5 .6481 15t 17-10-1 0.6250 1.667 21 117.0
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 164.4 .6147 23 15-10-7 0.5781 1.370 18 121.2[/u][/b]
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 27-2-3 .8906 2 .6639* 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson 34 25-4-5 .8088 4 .6144* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 22-5-5 .7656 7t .6127* 4
[b][u]4 St. Lawrence 32 24-4-4 .8125 3 .6100* 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 31 23-5-4 .7812 5 .6076* 6
6 Boston College 30 22-5-5 .7656 7t .5953* 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 29 17-7-5 .6724 11t .5644* 8
8 Princeton 28 18-8-3 .6724 11t .5560* 9[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 27 20-4-6 .7667 6 .5542* 10
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 26 20-8-6 .6765 10 .5525* 11
11 Colgate 25 22-9-3 .6912 9 .5516* 12[/u][/b]
12 Northeastern 24 19-11-3 .6212 14 .5442 14
13 Boston Univer 23 16-10-6 .5938 15 .5457 13
14 North Dakota 22 14-14-6 .5000 20t .5181 16
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1663. .9307 1 27-2-3 0.8906 8.143 1 229.4
2 Minnesota-Duluth710.5 .8554 6t 22-5-5 0.7656 3.267 2 227.3
3 Minnesota 646.7 .8443 4 23-5-4 0.7812 3.571 3 190.2
[b][u]4 Clarkson 611.1 .8373 3 25-4-5 0.8088 4.231 6 152.8
5 St. Lawrence 513.5 .8142 2 24-4-4 0.8125 4.333 9 126.0[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 385.3 .7713 6t 22-5-5 0.7656 3.267 10 123.3
[b][u]7 Cornell 245.3 .6915 10 17-7-5 0.6724 2.053 11 122.7
8 Princeton 203.1 .6542 10 18-8-3 0.6724 2.053 18 101.6
9 Quinnipiac 199.4 .6504 9 20-8-6 0.6765 2.091 20 97.60
10 Colgate 191.7 .6422 8 22-9-3 0.6912 2.238 21 87.85[/u][/b]
11 Robert Morris 179.8 .6289 5 20-4-6 0.7667 3.286 33 57.37
12 Northeastern 175.1 .6233 12 19-11-3 0.6212 1.640 16 108.4
13 Boston Univer 174.6 .6227 13 16-10-6 0.5938 1.462 12 120.9
14 North Dakota 154.9 .5971 17 14-14-6 0.5000 1.000 5 154.9
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4Z9gx0aH1
87% chance of getting into the NCAA field according to today's CHN simulation.
https://twitter.com/chnews/status/833423715346108418
Quote from: RichH87% chance of getting into the NCAA field according to today's CHN simulation.
https://twitter.com/chnews/status/833423715346108418
I'm loving the 0.1% probability of some series of events that would result in us finishing #3 in the Pairwise - especially because it certainly has to mean us making a 6-0-0 run from here through Lake Placid (along with other external factors, obvs).
Quote from: BeeeejI'm loving the 0.1% probability of some series of events that would result in us finishing #3 in the Pairwise - especially because it certainly has to mean us making a 6-0-0 run from here through Lake Placid (along with other external factors, obvs).
And a 35% chance that we end up a 2-seed or higher.
And according to this: http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html a 38% chance of being a two-seed or higher!
I have heard that there is no tie-breaker for the Cleary Cup. Can teams share it? Do you know if this is correct? If it is correct, is there a mathematical possibility that Cornell, Union, and Harvard could share the Cleary Cup?
Quote from: DutchmanI have heard that there is no tie-breaker for the Cleary Cup. Can teams share it? Do you know if this is correct? If it is correct, is there a mathematical possibility that Cornell, Union, and Harvard could share the Cleary Cup?
When it comes to Cleary it's all a pissing contest.
;-) Ptui!
Quote from: DutchmanI have heard that there is no tie-breaker for the Cleary Cup.
This makes no sense to me. Why not just give it solely to the 1 seed (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Champs_Icon.html)?
Quote from: DutchmanI have heard that there is no tie-breaker for the Cleary Cup. Can teams share it? Do you know if this is correct? If it is correct, is there a mathematical possibility that Cornell, Union, and Harvard could share the Cleary Cup?
In case you don't understand, essentially none of us here care 2 cents about the Cleary Cup. That and $1 will get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds. It has no meaning at all. Now, being the number one seed is different, but getting a cup, well................::thud::
To pick seedng in the case of ties, you can find the rules at the ECAC site, (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/20170101_Fan_Guide) but I'll do it for you.
Seeding for championship competition is based on total points accumulated during league contests. In the event teams are tied in the final regular-season standings, the following tiebreakers (listed in order of application) shall be used to determine seeding. (Note: Only League games apply):
Comparison of game results between tied teams (head to head).
Wins.
Comparison of results of games against the top four teams.
Comparison of results of games against the top eight teams.
Goal differential in head-to-head competition.
Goal differential in games against the top four teams.
Goal differential in games against the top eight teams.
In the case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria will be used in order until a team, or teams, is separated from the pack. At that point, the process will begin anew to break the "new" tie. In other words, when a four-way tie becomes a three-way tie, the three-way tie is treated as a "new" tie and the process begins with the first criterion.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: DutchmanI have heard that there is no tie-breaker for the Cleary Cup.
This makes no sense to me. Why not just give it solely to the 1 seed (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ecac_History/ecac_RS_Champs_Icon.html)?
They award co-champs for everything in the Ivy league too, which is good because I wouldn't have gotten to watch us win a football title as an undergrad if there was a tiebreaker.
For what it's worth, here are today's polls.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (33) 22- 6-4 981 2
2 Minnesota-Duluth (14) 19- 5-6 954 1
[b][u]3 Harvard ( 3) 20- 5-2 913 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 20- 8-2 831 5
5 Massachusetts-Lowell 20- 9-3 734 6
6 Boston University 20- 9-3 733 4
[b][u]7 Union 22- 8-2 709 7[/u][/b]
8 Western Michigan 18- 8-4 695 8
[b][u]9 Cornell 17- 6-4 555 12[/u][/b]
10 Providence 18- 9-5 498 10
11 Penn State 18- 8-2 454 9
12 Ohio State 16- 8-6 447 14
13 Notre Dame 18- 9-5 412 15
14 Boston College 18-12-4 388 11
15 Vermont 17-10-5 289 16
16 North Dakota 15-13-3 262 13
17 Air Force 21- 8-5 170 19
18 St. Cloud State 15-14-1 154 18
19 Wisconsin 17-10-1 136 20
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 15-10-7 74 17[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Bemidji State 34, Omaha 33, [b][u]Quinnipiac 17[/u][/b],
Canisius 16, Michigan Tech 7, Minnesota State 3, Northeastern 1.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 494 (21) 2 22-6-4
2 Minnesota Duluth 485 (13) 1 19-5-6
[b][u]3 Harvard University 445 3 20-5-2[/u][/b]
4 University of Minnesota 403 5 20-8-2
5 Boston University 353 4 20-9-3
6 Western Michigan Univer 316 9 18-8-4
7 UMass Lowell 305 6 20-9-3
[b][u]8 Union College 303 7 22-8-2
9 Cornell University 201 13 17-6-4[/u][/b]
10 Providence College 187 10 18-9-5
11 Penn State University 163 8 18-8-2
12 Ohio State University 140 14 16-8-6
13 Boston College 97 11 18-12-4
14 University of Notre Dame 73 NR 18-9-5
15 Univer of North Dakota 49 12 15-13-3
Others receiving votes: St. Cloud State University 29, University of Vermont 19,
Air Force Academy 12, S[b][u]t. Lawrence University 4[/u][/b], Bemidji State University 1, University of Wisconsin 1.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 20, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 27- 2-4 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 22- 5-5 131 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 25- 4-5 115 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 23- 5-5 112 4
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 24- 4-4 92 5[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 23- 5-5 74 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 17- 7-5 58 7[/u][/b]
8 Princeton 18- 8-3 37 9
9 Robert Morris 20- 4-6 28 8
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 20- 8-6 23 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Boston University 3, [b][u]Colgate[/u][/b] 1, Northeastern 1.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4ZGVGFsBS
Well said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Quote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
Quote from: KenPQuote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
At that point, I don't give a flying
expletive where it lands us in the PWR.
Quote from: KenPQuote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
Note that Brown can go 10-4 to finish 14-25-2 and national champion.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: KenPQuote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
Note that Brown can go 10-4 to finish 14-25-2 and national champion.
Let us know when it's time to enter
that contest.
Doubt that today's AH game will change things much, so here's how it stands.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Denver 59 24-6-4 .7647 2 .6045 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth58 20-5-7 .7344 3 .5992 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 57 22-5-2 .7931 1 .5868* 3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 56 21-9-2 .6875 8 .5744* 4
5 Western Michigan55 19-8-5 .6719 10 .5725 5
6 Mass-Lowell 54 22-9-3 .6912 7 .5618 6
7 Boston Univer 53 21-10-3 .6618 11t .5600 7
[b][u]8 Union 52 23-8-3 .7206 4 .5588* 8[/u][/b]
9 Penn State 51 20-8-2 .7000 6 .5585* 9
[b][u]10t Cornell 49 18-6-5 .7069 5 .5527 11[/u][/b]
10t Notre Dame 49 19-10-5 .6324 13 .5438 12
12 Providence 48 20-9-5 .6618 11t .5549 10
13 Wisconsin 47 18-11-1 .6167 17 .5431 13
14 St. Cloud State 46 15-16-1 .4844 34 .5425 14
15 Ohio State 45 17-9-6 .6250 14t .5421 15
16 North Dakota 44 16-14-3 .5303 28 .5418 16
17 Omaha 43 16-13-5 .5441 26t .5402 17
18 Air Force 42 22-9-5 .6806 9 .5388* 18
19t Vermont 41 18-11-5 .6029 19 .5379 19
19t Boston College 41 18-14-4 .5556 25 .5341 20
[b][u]21 St. Lawrence 39 16-11-7 .5735 22 .5291 21
22 Quinnipiac 38 19-13-2 .5882 21 .5217 23[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Denver 554.9 .8356 2 24-6-4 0.7647 3.250 6 178.0
2 Minnesota-Duluth503.9 .8223 3 20-5-7 0.7344 2.765 5 189.0
[b][u]3 Harvard 420.2 .7953 1 22-5-2 0.7931 3.833 22 116.2[/u][/b]
4 Western Michigan315.3 .7469 10 19-8-5 0.6719 2.048 8 157.6
5 Minnesota 307.2 .7422 8 21-9-2 0.6875 2.200 11 143.3
6 Mass-Lowell 294.8 .7347 7 22-9-3 0.6912 2.238 13 135.1
7 Boston Univer 292.1 .7330 11t 21-10-3 0.6618 1.957 9 152.4
[b][u]8 Union 258.3 .7095 4 23-8-3 0.7206 2.579 35 103.3
9 Cornell 253.4 .7057 5 18-6-5 0.7069 2.412 29 108.6[/u][/b]
10 Penn State 251.4 .7041 6 20-8-2 0.7000 2.333 26 111.1
11 Providence 250.8 .7037 11t 20-9-5 0.6618 1.957 15 130.9
12 Notre Dame 226.4 .6831 13 19-10-5 0.6324 1.720 14 133.8
13 North Dakota 214.4 .6718 28 16-14-3 0.5303 1.129 4 190.5
14 Vermont 203.7 .6611 19 18-11-5 0.6029 1.519 12 135.8
15 Wisconsin 199.2 .6564 17 18-11-1 0.6167 1.609 18 125.8
16 Omaha 196.8 .6537 26t 16-13-5 0.5441 1.194 7 165.7
17 Ohio State 183.5 .6387 14t 17-9-6 0.6250 1.667 25 111.9
18 Boston College 183.3 .6385 25 18-14-4 0.5556 1.250 10 147.6
19 St. Cloud State 182.5 .6375 34 15-16-1 0.4844 0.939 3 193.9
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 166.3 .6171 22 16-11-7 0.5735 1.345 19 124.7[/u][/b]
21 Northeastern 152.1 .5971 26t 16-13-5 0.5441 1.194 17 128.1
[b][u]22 Quinnipiac 150.7 .5949 21 19-13-2 0.5882 1.429 31 106.6[/u][/b]
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 29-2-4 .8857 2 .6587* 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson 34 27-4-5 .8194 4 .6140* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 24-5-5 .7794 7 .6135* 4
[b][u]4 St. Lawrence 32 26-4-4 .8235 3 .6122* 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 31 24-6-5 .7571 8 .6008* 6
6 Boston College 30 25-5-5 .7857 5 .5999* 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 29 19-7-5 .6935 10 .5725* 8
8 Princeton 28 19-9-3 .6613 12 .5551* 9[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 27 22-4-6 .7812 6 .5545* 10
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 26 21-9-6 .6667 11 .5515* 12[/u][/b]
11 Northeastern 25 21-11-3 .6429 14 .5499 13
12 Boston Univer 24 18-11-6 .6000 15 .5446 14
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1591. .9273 1 29-2-4 0.8857 7.750 1 227.3
2 Minnesota-Duluth733.0 .8583 6 24-5-5 0.7794 3.533 2 217.2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 635.7 .8415 3 27-4-5 0.8194 4.538 7 148.3[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 588.4 .8317 7 24-6-5 0.7571 3.118 3 196.1
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 543.7 .8213 2 26-4-4 0.8235 4.667 10 124.0[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 423.1 .7852 4 25-5-5 0.7857 3.667 11 120.9
[b][u]7 Cornell 286.8 .7201 8 19-7-5 0.6935 2.263 9 130.4
8 Princeton 203.6 .6540 10 19-9-3 0.6613 1.952 18 106.6
9 Quinnipiac 200.3 .6508 9 21-9-6 0.6667 2.000 20 102.2[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 190.3 .6403 12 21-11-3 0.6429 1.800 17 107.6
11 Robert Morris 185.3 .6347 5 22-4-6 0.7812 3.571 33 54.49
[b][u]12 Colgate 172.1 .6193 11 22-11-3 0.6528 1.880 21 93.24[/u][/b]
13 Boston Univer 171.9 .6190 13 18-11-6 0.6000 1.500 14 115.9
14 North Dakota 153.5 .5947 17 15-15-6 0.5000 1.000 6 153.5
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4ZoDrkIf7
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: KenPQuote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
Note that Brown can go 10-4 to finish 14-25-2 and national champion.
Wouldn't it have to be 10-2? They can lose a game each in the first and QF rounds, but from there on out they have to win, right?
Quote from: French RageQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: KenPQuote from: HookingWell said. Winning is everything. 6-0-0!
Might as well go all the way and cheer for 10-0-0 and REALLY finish the season in style. ::cheer::
Note that Brown can go 10-4 to finish 14-25-2 and national champion.
Wouldn't it have to be 10-2? They can lose a game each in the first and QF rounds, but from there on out they have to win, right?
This was prior to the final RS weekend, so they could be swept 0-2, then go 2-1, 2-1, 2-0, 4-0.
In the event they were swept 0-2, so, everything going according to plan.
Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
Quote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
This site has us at 83%.
http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html
Quote from: andyw2100Quote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
This site has us at 83%.
http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html
That's last week's PWR standings.
Quote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
True, but of course the Matrix would give us a very good chance of winning the series, which is why they give us a very good chance of the NCAAs.
98% sounds high, but there's a decent gap between the top 12 teams in RPI and the 13th.
Keep in mind St. Cloud has a losing record and at this time is not eligible for the NCAA tournament. That provides extra cushion for Cornell.
Quote from: KenPKeep in mind St. Cloud has a losing record and at this time is not eligible for the NCAA tournament. That provides extra cushion for Cornell.
They have two games with Colorado College, then a playoff with a higher seed.
We likely need them to get swept in that playoff.
As has been mentioned here before, it's silly just how much they get rewarded for going 2-7 against the top two teams.
The battle for at an large berth for the NCAA's is, at minimum, limited to the 14th place and above in Pairwise rankings. The AQ from Atlantic Hockey league and WHCA are going to take 15th and 16th seeds, as none of their teams are currently inside the top 16 . If there is some really weird upset champion in any other conference tournament it will be an even slimmer opening.
Need to sweep the home quarterfinal series at minimum.
The Atlantic Hockey and WHCA champs will take spots 15 & 16, thus diminishing CU's options for at large bid.
Quote from: Cop at LynahThe Atlantic Hockey and WHCA champs will take spots 15 & 16, thus diminishing CU's options for at large bid.
You know that the math already takes that into account, right?
Yep. All they have to do is win out and past statistics be damned. I have a tough time applying the statistical strategies of well-paid advisors in a net-zero market to my love of Cornell Hockey.
does it really matter if the Atlantic Hockey and WHCA champs comes in 15-16 or 1-2?? either way its a 1 bid league and leaves the same number of at large bids.
the ecac has 3 team in now and i could see ST.L or maybe Quin get hot
HEast has 4 in with BC/Vermont stealing a bid
b10 has 4 with no one else
nchc 3 with St.Cl/NDak/Omaha at around .500 but not sure any of them can win the title
atlantic 1
whca 1
big games this weekend
PSU/Wisc
msu/osu
cc/stcloud
mass/prov
den/omaha
miami/nd
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: KenPKeep in mind St. Cloud has a losing record and at this time is not eligible for the NCAA tournament. That provides extra cushion for Cornell.
They have two games with Colorado College, then a playoff with a higher seed.
We likely need them to get swept in that playoff.
As has been mentioned here before, it's silly just how much they get rewarded for going 2-7 against the top two teams.
If Colorado College can pull off just 1 tie, St. Cloud would need to advance past their first round to be NCAA-tournament eligible. Pretty sure we're all CC fans this weekend.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: andyw2100Quote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
This site has us at 83%.
http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournseedprob.html
That's last week's PWR standings.
It shows an update date of today, at 8:00 AM.
I did notice that it showed Cornell 9th instead of tenth, and thought that was odd.
Checking the site again now, and refreshing, changes nothing, so I'm not sure what's going on.
Edit: This page on that site does seem to have us 10th in Pairwise, but the 83% chance of making the tournament is consistent with their other page.
http://playoffstatus.com/ncaahockey/ncaahockeytournperformprob.html
Quote from: HookingYep. All they have to do is win out and past statistics be damned. I have a tough time applying the statistical strategies of well-paid advisors in a net-zero market to my love of Cornell Hockey.
I don't. It still comes down to win every game from now on and then fuck the Homecoming Queen/King/Both.
Quote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
The probability matrix, as I've argued before, overvalues the chances of a stronger team beating a weaker team. For instance, look at Harvard: the model gives them a 45% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. In a tournament with (functionally) eight teams, including two other top ten teams, one team being almost even money to win the whole thing in a game as random as hockey feels wrong. I believe this to be true even given the 2/3 structure of the first round reducing randomness as well as the fact that Harvard is clearly one of the top teams in the country. Cornell twice this year nearly beat Harvard; Union beat them once. RPI beat Harvard. If this were basketball, the probabilities in this matrix would seem much more reasonable.
FWIW, our poll rank (http://www.tbrw.info/?/weekly_Updates/cornell_Poll_History.html) in the last poll of February:
[color=#FF0000]2017 9[/color]
2016 18
2015 --
2014 11
2013 --
2012 13
2011 25
[color=#FF0000]2010 9[/color]
2009 11
2008 24
2007 20
[color=#FF0000]2006 8
2005 2[/color]
2004 18
[color=#FF0000]2003 2
2002 9[/color]
2001 19
2000 --
Polls
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
February 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (43) 24- 6-4 990 1
[b][u]2 Harvard ( 3) 22- 5-2 928 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth( 4) 20- 5-7 924 2
4 Massachusetts-Lowell 22- 9-3 835 5
5 Minnesota 21- 9-2 788 4
[b][u]6 Union 23- 8-3 707 7[/u][/b]
7 Boston University 21-10-3 703 6
8 Western Michigan 19- 8-5 680 8
[b][u]9 Cornell 18- 6-5 587 9[/u][/b]
10 Providence 20- 9-5 532 10
11 Penn State 20- 8-2 506 11
12 Notre Dame 19-10-5 461 13
13 Ohio State 17- 9-6 393 12
14 Vermont 18-11-5 294 15
15 North Dakota 16-14-3 252 16
16 Wisconsin 18-11-1 238 19
17 Boston College 18-14-4 223 14
18 Air Force 22- 9-5 125 17
19 St. Cloud State 15-16-1 80 18
[b][u]20 St. Lawrence 16-11-7 66 20[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Omaha 57, Bemidji State 45, Canisius 36,
[b][u]Quinnipiac 32[/u][/b], Minnesota State 8, Michigan Tech 7, Northeastern 3.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
February 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 503 (28) 1 24-6-4
[b][u]T2 Harvard University 462 (3) 3 22-5-2[/u][/b]
T2 Univer Minnesota Duluth 462 (3) 2 20-5-7
4 UMass Lowell 386 7 22-9-3
5 University of Minnesota 380 4 21-9-2
6 Boston University 327 5 21-10-3
[b][u]7 Union College 300 8 23-8-3[/u][/b]
8 Western Michigan Univer 295 6 19-8-5
[b][u]9 Cornell University 221 9 18-6-5[/u][/b]
10 Penn State University 188 11 20-8-2
11 Providence College 183 10 20-9-5
12 University of Notre Dame141 14 19-10-5
13 Ohio State University 94 12 17-9-6
14 University of Wisconsin 39 NR 18-11-1
15 University North Dakota 33 15 16-14-3
Others receiving votes: Boston College 32, University of Vermont 16,
St. Cloud State University 10, [b][u]St. Lawrence University 4[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 4.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll
February 27, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 29- 2-4 150 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth 24- 5-5 134 2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 27- 4-5 118 3
4 St. Lawrence 26- 4-4 101 5[/u][/b]
5 Minnesota 25- 6-5 96 4
6 Boston College 25- 5-5 76 6
[b][u]7 Cornell 19- 7-5 59 7
8 Princeton 20- 9-3 40 8[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 22- 4-6 34 9
[b][u]10 Quinnipiac 21-10-6 9 10[/u][/b]
Others receiving votes: Boston University 4, Northeastern 4.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/#ixzz4Zvj1dVSI
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: scoop85Geez, I just checked CHN's probability matrix and they have us at a 98% chance of making the NCAA's. While I like that number, I'm still uptight about it. I'll feel much better if we win our QF series in 2 straight.
The probability matrix, as I've argued before, overvalues the chances of a stronger team beating a weaker team. For instance, look at Harvard: the model gives them a 45% chance of winning the ECAC tournament. In a tournament with (functionally) eight teams, including two other top ten teams, one team being almost even money to win the whole thing in a game as random as hockey feels wrong. I believe this to be true even given the 2/3 structure of the first round reducing randomness as well as the fact that Harvard is clearly one of the top teams in the country. Cornell twice this year nearly beat Harvard; Union beat them once. RPI beat Harvard. If this were basketball, the probabilities in this matrix would seem much more reasonable.
I alluded to this earlier: The probability matrix isn't the one doing the overvaluing, it's KRACH. All the probability matrix is doing is taking the probabilities from KRACH and running 20,000 random iterations of the season based on those probabilities.
Even money for an 8-team tournament is 12.5%. With Harvard at 45%, they are going to win 3.6 times more than the average team. If you put them head to head, Harvard's record is 3.6-1, or 78.2%. Harvard's actual winning percentage is 79.3%. (77.3% in conference). Those are pretty close.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll
March 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (48) 26- 6-4 997 1
[b][u]2 Harvard ( 1) 22- 5-2 937 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth( 1) 21- 6-7 902 3
4 Massachusetts-Lowell 22- 9-3 841 4
5 Minnesota 22-10-2 753 5
[b][u]6 Union 23- 8-3 739 6[/u][/b]
7 Western Michigan 20- 9-5 702 8
8 Boston University 21-10-3 697 7
[b][u]9 Cornell 18- 6-5 593 9[/u][/b]
10 Providence 22- 9-5 559 10
11 Penn State 21- 9-2 478 11
12 Notre Dame 19-10-5 462 12
13 Vermont 20-11-5 374 14
14 North Dakota 18-14-3 336 15
15 Ohio State 18-10-6 291 13
16 Wisconsin 19-12-1 282 16
17 Boston College 18-14-4 174 17
18 Air Force 22- 9-5 133 18
[b][u]19 St. Lawrence 16-11-7 66 20[/u][/b]
20 St. Cloud State 16-17-1 55 19
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Quinnipiac 37[/u][/b], Canisius 26, Bemidji State 22,
Omaha 18, Michigan Tech 10, Minnesota State 9, Northeastern 7.
[b][u]USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
March 6, 2017[/u][/b]
Team Points (First) Last Poll Record
1 University of Denver 509 (33) 1 26-6-4
[b][u]2 Harvard University 463 (1) T2 22-5-2[/u][/b]
3 Univer Minnesota Duluth 447 T2 21-6-7
4 UMass Lowell 389 4 22-9-3
5 University of Minnesota 353 5 22-10-2
6 Boston University 325 6 21-10-3
[b][u]7 Union College 310 7 23-8-3[/u][/b]
8 Western Michigan Univer 309 8 20-9-5
[b][u]9 Cornell University 223 9 18-6-5[/u][/b]
10 Providence College 188 11 22-9-5
11 Penn State University 182 10 21-9-2
12 University Notre Dame 134 12 19-10-5
13 University North Dakota 72 15 18-14-3
14 University of Vermont 58 NR 20-11-5
15 Ohio State University 54 13 18-10-6
Others receiving votes: University of Wisconsin 39, Boston College 15,
[b][u]St. Lawrence University 6[/u][/b], United States Air Force Academy 4.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Denver 59 26-6-4 .7778 2 .6067 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth58 21-6-7 .7206 3t .5972 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 57 22-5-2 .7931 1 .5875* 3[/u][/b]
4 Western Michigan56 20-9-5 .6618 11t .5721 4
5 Minnesota 55 22-10-2 .6765 10 .5715* 5
6 Mass-Lowell 54 22-9-3 .6912 6 .5618 6
7 Boston Univer 53 21-10-3 .6618 11t .5615 7
[b][u]8 Union 52 23-8-3 .7206 3t .5590* 8[/u][/b]
9 Penn State 51 21-9-2 .6875 7 .5554* 9
[b][u]10 Cornell 49 18-6-5 .7069 5 .5519 11[/u][/b]
11t Providence 48 22-9-5 .6806 8t .5552 10
11t North Dakota 48 18-14-3 .5571 26 .5473 12
13t Wisconsin 47 19-12-1 .6094 20 .5456 13
13t Notre Dame 47 19-10-5 .6324 14 .5453 14
15 Vermont 45 20-11-5 .6250 15t .5406 15
16 Air Force 44 22-9-5 .6806 8t .5388 16
17 Ohio State 43 18-10-6 .6176 17t .5377 17
18t St. Cloud State 42 16-17-1 .4853 35 .5371 18
18t Boston College 42 18-14-4 .5556 27 .5345 19
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Denver 599.1 .8453 2 26-6-4 0.7778 3.500 6 178.7
2 Minnesota-Duluth489.9 .8181 3t 21-6-7 0.7206 2.579 3 196.0
[b][u]3 Harvard 426.7 .7974 1 22-5-2 0.7931 3.833 22 118.0[/u][/b]
4 Western Michigan328.1 .7538 11t 20-9-5 0.6618 1.957 8 171.2
5 Boston Univer 297.5 .7361 11t 21-10-3 0.6618 1.957 9 155.2
6 Mass-Lowell 294.8 .7344 6 22-9-3 0.6912 2.238 12 135.1
7 Minnesota 284.1 .7275 10 22-10-2 0.6765 2.091 11 139.0
[b][u]8 Union 262.3 .7122 3t 23-8-3 0.7206 2.579 33 104.9[/u][/b]
9 Providence 257.4 .7085 8t 22-9-5 0.6806 2.130 20 123.5
[b][u]10 Cornell 253.1 .7053 5 18-6-5 0.7069 2.412 27 108.5[/u][/b]
11 Penn State 246.0 .6997 7 21-9-2 0.6875 2.200 25 114.8
12 North Dakota 231.3 .6873 26 18-14-3 0.5571 1.258 4 185.1
13 Notre Dame 227.5 .6838 14 19-10-5 0.6324 1.720 13 134.4
14 Vermont 216.1 .6733 15t 20-11-5 0.6250 1.667 15 131.5
15 Wisconsin 202.1 .6593 20 19-12-1 0.6094 1.560 16 131.4
16 Omaha 185.5 .6409 32 16-15-5 0.5139 1.057 7 175.7
17 Boston College 185.1 .6405 27 18-14-4 0.5556 1.250 10 149.0
18 St. Cloud State 173.4 .6262 35 16-17-1 0.4853 0.943 5 183.6
19 Ohio State 168.9 .6204 17t 18-10-6 0.6176 1.615 31 106.1
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Women's Poll[/u][/b]
[b][u]March 06, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Wisconsin (15) 31- 2-4 150 1
[b][u]2 Clarkson 29- 4-5 129 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth 25- 6-5 125 2
4 Boston College 27- 5-5 98 6
5 Minnesota 25- 7-5 87 5
[b][u]6 St. Lawrence 26- 5-4 84 4
7 Cornell 20- 8-5 61 7[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 24- 4-6 46 9
[b][u]9 Princeton 20-10-3 26 8[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 22-12-3 17 NR
Others receiving votes: [b][u]Quinnipiac 2.[/u][/b]
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 31-2-4 .8919 2 .6670* 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson 34 29-4-5 .8289 3 .6226* 3[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth33 25-6-5 .7639 7 .6130* 4
4 Boston College 32 27-5-5 .7973 5 .6055* 5
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 31 26-5-4 .8000 4 .6047* 6[/u][/b]
6 Minnesota 30 25-7-5 .7432 8 .5969* 7
[b][u]7 Cornell 29 20-8-5 .6818 9 .5733* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 24-4-6 .7941 6 .5586* 9
[b][u]9 Princeton 27 20-10-3 .6515 11 .5539* 10[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1837. .9356 1 31-2-4 0.8919 8.250 2 246.8
2 Minnesota-Duluth780.5 .8644 6 25-6-5 0.7639 3.235 1 250.9
[b][u]3 Clarkson 708.0 .8535 2 29-4-5 0.8289 4.846 7 154.9[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 579.3 .8289 7 25-7-5 0.7432 2.895 3 206.9
[b][u]5 St. Lawrence 483.6 .8043 3 26-5-4 0.8000 4.000 10 127.3[/u][/b]
6 Boston College 460.6 .7972 4 27-5-5 0.7973 3.933 11 122.8
[b][u]7 Cornell 302.0 .7289 8 20-8-5 0.6818 2.143 8 144.4
8 Princeton 207.4 .6575 10 20-10-3 0.6515 1.870 17 113.1[/u][/b]
9 Robert Morris 198.7 .6489 5 24-4-6 0.7941 3.857 33 54.20
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4aaaWdJYF
Quote from: KGR11I alluded to this earlier: The probability matrix isn't the one doing the overvaluing, it's KRACH. All the probability matrix is doing is taking the probabilities from KRACH and running 20,000 random iterations of the season based on those probabilities.
Even money for an 8-team tournament is 12.5%. With Harvard at 45%, they are going to win 3.6 times more than the average team. If you put them head to head, Harvard's record is 3.6-1, or 78.2%. Harvard's actual winning percentage is 79.3%. (77.3% in conference). Those are pretty close.
If someone had a better way to "randomly" distribute wins in a simulation, I am all ears.
After the Friday loss, at 11 pm we're 13 in PWR.
Quote from: TrotskyAfter the Friday loss, at 11 pm we're 13 in PWR.
We were at 14 right after the game, so I'll take it.
Pending other action, the win tonight didn't budge us out of 13th in the Pairwise.
EDIT: As of 10:03pm, other action has moved us up to 12th. (Yes, I did verify our record had been updated when we were still 13th.)
I don't know if we'd have to win again in Lake Placid to preserve the lead but if we win tomorrow we almost certainly flip the comparison with Providence. We're pnly .0007 behind the Friars in RPI (for that matter we're .0026 behind NoDak and .0028 behind the Irish). Losing tomorrow could certainly drop us behind Penn State, since we're only .0016 ahead.
*Edited to show end-of-night RPI.
up to 11.. we need to win tomorrow , i think PSU loses next week so its hit or miss who would stay on top.
Quote from: upprdeckup to 11.. we need to win tomorrow , i think PSU loses next week so its hit or miss who would stay on top.
USCHO shows us as "tied" for 11th with Providence, but our RPI is still behind Providence's. CHN's Pairwise script is down, so I can't check whether it still shows us at 12th, but I think they just display differently and we're effectively 12th in both.
EDIT: Yup, CHN's back up and shows us 12th with the same data.
Now we're alone in 12th anyway, as Providence and NoDak are now "tied" for 10th.
It'll settle down soon.
Quote from: BeeeejNow we're alone in 12th anyway, as Providence and NoDak are now "tied" for 10th.
It'll settle down soon.
8 days at most.
Quote from: ugarteI don't know if we'd have to win again in Lake Placid to preserve the lead but if we win tomorrow we almost certainly flip the comparison with Providence. We're pnly .0007 behind the Friars in RPI (for that matter we're .0026 behind NoDak and .0028 behind the Irish). Losing tomorrow could certainly drop us behind Penn State, since we're only .0016 ahead.
*Edited to show end-of-night RPI.
As predicted, Cornell (for the moment) flips the Providence comparison and is alone in 11th. Trails ND and ND by .0001 in RPI! I wonder if our RPI can move enough after SLU/QU to move us ahead (for the moment).
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteI don't know if we'd have to win again in Lake Placid to preserve the lead but if we win tomorrow we almost certainly flip the comparison with Providence. We're pnly .0007 behind the Friars in RPI (for that matter we're .0026 behind NoDak and .0028 behind the Irish). Losing tomorrow could certainly drop us behind Penn State, since we're only .0016 ahead.
*Edited to show end-of-night RPI.
As predicted, Cornell (for the moment) flips the Providence comparison and is alone in 11th. Trails ND and ND by .0001 in RPI! I wonder if our RPI can move enough after SLU/QU to move us ahead (for the moment).
Looks like we move up to 9th no matter who wins. Didn't add the UNO WM game in, that could change things.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ugarteI don't know if we'd have to win again in Lake Placid to preserve the lead but if we win tomorrow we almost certainly flip the comparison with Providence. We're pnly .0007 behind the Friars in RPI (for that matter we're .0026 behind NoDak and .0028 behind the Irish). Losing tomorrow could certainly drop us behind Penn State, since we're only .0016 ahead.
*Edited to show end-of-night RPI.
As predicted, Cornell (for the moment) flips the Providence comparison and is alone in 11th. Trails ND and ND by .0001 in RPI! I wonder if our RPI can move enough after SLU/QU to move us ahead (for the moment).
As long as we stay in the 9-12 band, I'm not sure I care as long as Providence and NoDak are in there with us.
Quote from: ugarteI wonder if our RPI can move enough after SLU/QU to move us ahead (for the moment).
Since we have played each the same number of times, isn't that game a wash for us?
the bigger question is will nd losing next week be enough if we lose to union or harvard
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ugarteI wonder if our RPI can move enough after SLU/QU to move us ahead (for the moment).
Since we have played each the same number of times, isn't that game a wash for us?
that's kind of what i thought but apparently not!
It looks like they do this week, next week and after the NCAAs for men and after next weeks NCAAs for women.
[b][u]USCHO.com Division I Men's Poll[/u][/b]
[b][u]March 13, 2017[/u][/b]
Team (First) Record Points Last Poll
1 Denver (48) 28- 6-4 998 1
[b][u]2 Harvard ( 2) 24- 5-2 936 2[/u][/b]
3 Minnesota-Duluth 23- 6-7 915 3
4 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-10-3 798 4
5 Minnesota 23-10-3 776 5
[b][u]6 Union 25- 8-3 752 6[/u][/b]
7 Boston University 23-10-3 714 8
8 Western Michigan 22-10-5 701 7
[b][u]9 Cornell 20- 7-5 577 9[/u][/b]
10 Notre Dame 21-10-5 566 12
11 North Dakota 20-14-3 471 14
12 Providence 22-11-5 423 10
13 Ohio State 20-10-6 390 15
14 Boston College 20-14-4 339 17
15 Penn State 21-11-2 331 11
16 Vermont 20-13-5 229 13
17 Air Force 24- 9-5 181 18
18 Wisconsin 19-14-1 173 16
[b][u]19 Quinnipiac 23-14-2 111 NR[/u][/b]
20 Canisius 21-10-7 51 NR
Others receiving votes: Michigan Tech 27, Omaha 21,
[b][u]St. Lawrence 11[/u][/b], Bowling Green 5, Bemidji State 2, St. Cloud State 2.
[b][u]Men's Division I PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Denver 59 28-6-4 .7895 2 .6074 1
2 Minnesota-Duluth58 23-6-7 .7361 3t .5978 2
[b][u]3 Harvard 57 24-5-2 .8065 1 .5916* 3[/u][/b]
4 Western Michigan56 22-10-5 .6622 10 .5701 4
5 Minnesota 55 23-10-3 .6806 8t .5674* 5
6 Boston Univer 54 23-10-3 .6806 8t .5659* 6
[b][u]7 Union 53 25-8-3 .7361 3t .5623* 7[/u][/b]
8 Mass-Lowell 52 24-10-3 .6892 7 .5573 8
[b][u]9 Cornell 51 20-7-5 .7031 5 .5501 9[/u][/b]
10 Notre Dame 50 21-10-5 .6528 11 .5500 10
11 North Dakota 49 20-14-3 .5811 21 .5496 11
12t Providence 47 22-11-5 .6447 13t .5479 12
12t Penn State 47 21-11-2 .6471 12 .5453 13
14 Ohio State 46 20-10-6 .6389 15t .5446 14
15t Air Force 45 24-9-5 .6974 6 .5432 15
15t Boston College 45 20-14-4 .5789 22 .5387 16
17 Vermont 43 20-13-5 .5921 20 .5352 17
18 Wisconsin 42 19-14-1 .5735 23 .5342 18
19 Omaha 41 17-17-5 .5000 30 .5311 19
[b][u]20 Quinnipiac 40 23-14-2 .6154 17t .5298 20[/u][/b]
[b][u]KRACH: Division I Men[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Denver 624.8 .8504 2 28-6-4 0.7895 3.750 8 174.1
2 Minnesota-Duluth518.2 .8258 3t 23-6-7 0.7361 2.789 3 191.9
[b][u]3 Harvard 462.6 .8095 1 24-5-2 0.8065 4.167 23 117.9[/u][/b]
4 Western Michigan339.6 .7596 10 22-10-5 0.6622 1.960 7 176.6
5 Boston Univer 331.0 .7552 8t 23-10-3 0.6806 2.130 9 158.9
[b][u]6 Union 283.8 .7272 3t 25-8-3 0.7361 2.789 33 105.1[/u][/b]
7 Mass-Lowell 282.0 .7260 7 24-10-3 0.6892 2.217 18 130.2
8 Minnesota 275.3 .7214 8t 23-10-3 0.6806 2.130 16 132.1
9 Notre Dame 255.0 .7066 11 21-10-5 0.6528 1.880 12 138.1
10 North Dakota 253.4 .7054 21 20-14-3 0.5811 1.387 5 184.3
[b][u]11 Cornell 252.5 .7046 5 20-7-5 0.7031 2.368 30 109.8[/u][/b]
12 Providence 225.3 .6818 13t 22-11-5 0.6447 1.815 19 126.2
13 Boston College 206.6 .6638 22 20-14-4 0.5789 1.375 10 151.5
14 Penn State 203.9 .6610 12 21-11-2 0.6471 1.833 26 113.3
15 Ohio State 194.5 .6511 15t 20-10-6 0.6389 1.769 29 111.8
16 Vermont 193.1 .6495 20 20-13-5 0.5921 1.452 14 134.3
17 Omaha 182.8 .6376 30 17-17-5 0.5000 1.000 6 182.8
18 Wisconsin 179.1 .6332 23 19-14-1 0.5735 1.345 13 134.3
[b][u]19 Quinnipiac 164.0 .6138 17t 23-14-2 0.6154 1.600 34 103.8[/u][/b]
20 Air Force 157.6 .6049 6 24-9-5 0.6974 2.304 44 70.03
[b][u]Women's National Collegiate PairWise Rankings[/u][/b]
Rank Team PWR W-L-T Win % Win % Rank RPI RPI Rank
1 Wisconsin 35 32-2-4 .8947 2 .6683* 2
[b][u]2 Clarkson 34 30-4-5 .8333 3 .6263* 3[/u][/b]
3 Boston College 33 28-5-5 .8026 4 .6099* 4
4 Minnesota-Duluth32 25-7-5 .7432 8 .6088* 5
5 Minnesota 31 26-7-5 .7500 7 .6024* 6
[b][u]6 St. Lawrence 30 26-6-4 .7778 5 .5981* 7
7 Cornell 29 20-9-5 .6618 9 .5676* 8[/u][/b]
8 Robert Morris 28 24-5-6 .7714 6 .5543* 9
[b][u]9 Princeton 27 20-10-3 .6515 11 .5523* 10[/u][/b]
10 Northeastern 26 22-12-3 .6351 14 .5511 11
[b][u]KRACH: National Collegiate Women[/u][/b]
Rank Team Rating RRWP Win % Rk W-L-T Win % Win Ratio SOS Rk SOS
1 Wisconsin 1897. .9374 1 32-2-4 0.8947 8.500 2 247.5
2 Minnesota-Duluth734.3 .8575 7 25-7-5 0.7432 2.895 1 262.2
[b][u]3 Clarkson 728.6 .8567 2 30-4-5 0.8333 5.000 7 154.6[/u][/b]
4 Minnesota 639.9 .8413 6 26-7-5 0.7500 3.000 3 220.6
5 Boston College 501.5 .8094 3 28-5-5 0.8026 4.067 11 129.4
[b][u]6 St. Lawrence 436.0 .7890 4 26-6-4 0.7778 3.500 10 130.0
7 Cornell 282.2 .7166 8 20-9-5 0.6618 1.957 8 147.2
8 Princeton 204.4 .6545 10 20-10-3 0.6515 1.870 18 111.5[/u][/b]
9 Northeastern 196.4 .6464 12 22-12-3 0.6351 1.741 17 114.5
10 Robert Morris 195.1 .6450 5 24-5-6 0.7714 3.375 32 60.29
[u]11 Quinnipiac 184.1 .6332 11 21-10-6 0.6486 1.846 20 101.5[/u]
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/krach/d-i-women/#ixzz4bFUz5DkS