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General Category => John Spencer Is Dead => Topic started by: Tcl123 on February 23, 2016, 07:24:51 AM

Title: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Tcl123 on February 23, 2016, 07:24:51 AM
Mayor wants to open supervised injection facility for heroin in NY city - Fox News
https://apple.news/AJ2-8yYnrQ7aVNhIgmMK1SQ
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Scersk '97 on February 23, 2016, 09:23:13 AM
Quote from: toddloseMayor wants to open supervised injection facility for heroin in NY city - Fox News
https://apple.news/AJ2-8yYnrQ7aVNhIgmMK1SQ

Far better for it to happen in back alleys and dark abandoned buildings, right? Right? [rimshot]

Outright prohibition has always worked so well in the past...
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Trotsky on February 23, 2016, 11:02:58 AM
A plea.  No politics, please.  So many other places for those discussions.
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Tcl123 on February 23, 2016, 11:42:29 AM
I'm neither endorsing nor condoning (I don't know enough to really have an educated stance).  I'm just amazed that Ithaca is in the mix for the first site in the country. One would think other cities would be considering this instead of our "Podunk" upstate town.

Ps-completed agreed Trotsky. That was not my intention.
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: billhoward on February 23, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
Heroin is a significant issue in the suburbs now including a lot of affluent school districts that are feeder schools to the Ivy League. Ithaca may be rural but Ithaca-Lansing in many ways resemble schools in the ring outside of NYC, Boston, Philadelphia or DC.

The overdose (overdose deaths) chart in the story cited by the opening post is trending way upward.
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Scersk '97 on February 23, 2016, 09:51:44 PM
Quote from: billhowardHeroin is a significant issue in the suburbs now including a lot of affluent school districts that are feeder schools to the Ivy League. Ithaca may be rural but Ithaca-Lansing in many ways resemble schools in the ring outside of NYC, Boston, Philadelphia or DC.

The overdose (overdose deaths) chart in the story cited by the opening post is trending way upward.

Which would've been a more mature way for me to respond to the initial poster. My reaction to the article: Why not Ithaca?

As Bill suggests, anyone who thinks that opiate addiction isn't a huge problem in rural America (where I'm from, by the way) has his or her head in the proverbial sand. Ithaca, as a slightly more urbanized area of the great rural swath of upstate New York, seems an appropriate place to start trying out some solutions, whatever those solutions may be.
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: RatushnyFan on March 22, 2016, 06:25:19 PM
NY Times article re Ithaca's heroin program (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/nyregion/fighting-heroin-ithaca-looks-to-injection-centers.html?hpw&rref=nyregion&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0)
14 fatalities in 2014 in Tompkins County............three in a week and a half period.......these numbers are stunning.
Title: Re: Heroin use supervised by government, really?!?
Post by: Tcl123 on March 23, 2016, 06:45:45 AM
Quote from: RatushnyFanNY Times article re Ithaca's heroin program (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/nyregion/fighting-heroin-ithaca-looks-to-injection-centers.html?hpw&rref=nyregion&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0)
14 fatalities in 2014 in Tompkins County............three in a week and a half period.......these numbers are stunning.

Completely agreed. That is stunning. However, In ocean county nj there were 112 (8 times that of Tompkins county) in 2013. My point to bringing up the issue is, why Ithaca when there are so many other places where the problem seems to be exponentially more severe? Why haven't other local governments recognized the problem and try to address it as Ithaca is attempting to do?