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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: BMac on November 04, 2015, 12:37:25 PM

Title: Highlights?
Post by: BMac on November 04, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
Are there highlights for the at Niagara game?
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 04, 2015, 12:52:31 PM
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?
Men's hockey page at cornellbigred.com has a video link.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: marty on November 04, 2015, 12:52:39 PM
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gelcb5mHjc4
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: scoop85 on November 04, 2015, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gelcb5mHjc4

He's looking for highlights of the game at Niagara. I haven't come accross any
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: sah67 on November 04, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gelcb5mHjc4

That's the home game.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: marty on November 04, 2015, 02:05:01 PM
Quote from: sah67
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gelcb5mHjc4

That's the home game.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Swampy on November 04, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gelcb5mHjc4

What's with the names on the jerseys? Was this a Halloween thing or did we actually put in a bunch of ringers?
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: andyw2100 on November 04, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
Quote from: SwampyWhat's with the names on the jerseys? Was this a Halloween thing or did we actually put in a bunch of ringers?

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2015/10/29/MICE_1029150551.aspx
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: French Rage on November 04, 2015, 03:44:03 PM
Anyone know if the auction will be online or in person?
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: marty on November 04, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: BMacAre there highlights for the at Niagara game?

Per Bullwinkle J Moose - THIS TIME FOR SURE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDEQ3o_OZKk)
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: ugarte on November 04, 2015, 10:34:14 PM
Those are decent highlight packages! Niagara especially included the full plays as they developed, not just the pass-and-shot and both schools included saves as well as goals... good job, both schools! I also liked the way Niagara included graphics with the goal information and Cornell included the play-by-play audio.
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Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 05, 2015, 02:42:09 AM
Nice showing by the Faithful at Niagara, too.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Swampy on November 05, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: SwampyWhat's with the names on the jerseys? Was this a Halloween thing or did we actually put in a bunch of ringers?

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2015/10/29/MICE_1029150551.aspx

Thanks. But really, #19 gets unlegendary Chris Abbott (http://www.tbrw.info/) (choose Players > Legends)? Talk among yourselves.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Give My Regards on November 05, 2015, 09:41:57 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: SwampyWhat's with the names on the jerseys? Was this a Halloween thing or did we actually put in a bunch of ringers?

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2015/10/29/MICE_1029150551.aspx

Thanks. But really, #19 gets unlegendary Chris Abbott (http://www.tbrw.info/) (choose Players > Legends)? Talk among yourselves.

I see they also didn't have #39, only worn by the legendary Eddy Skazyk.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: TimV on November 05, 2015, 05:54:49 PM
Didn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: RichH on November 05, 2015, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_Uniform_Numbers.html
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 05, 2015, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?
Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 05, 2015, 09:28:14 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?
Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Swampy on November 05, 2015, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?

Yes he did. And to support my contention that Chris Abbott is a curious choice, here are the data (Source: TBRW). Notice that even after the ageless Harry moved to defense, his seasonal point production was about twice Abbott's; Abbott's career PPG = 0.4, Orr's PPG = 1.2.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Swampy on November 05, 2015, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?
Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.

Well for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: TimV on November 05, 2015, 11:37:03 PM
Ha! No age listed for Harry.  He was 32 his sophomore year.::whistle::
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: BMac on November 05, 2015, 11:45:46 PM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 06, 2015, 04:22:26 AM
Pattison, a two-time first-team All-American, was a converted forward as were several of Ned's defensemen.  NHL career seems to have influenced the choice of Manderville.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 06, 2015, 07:11:10 AM
I can't argue against Manderville, but the others are also good choices. Personally I would have picked Baby. I think he was the most important player in the great run we had in early 2000s. Whatever the situation, I always wanted him on the ice. I agree that Harry Orr should get 19, but thought about Bertrand. Although I didn't like his coaching, he was a somewhat successful coach. However the criteria was as a "player", so maybe coaching didn't count.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Scersk '97 on November 06, 2015, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Jim HylaHowever the criteria was as a "player", so maybe coaching didn't count.

Well, I'm sure the criteria was really "who I picked," which is fine and interesting in its own way.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: KeithK on November 06, 2015, 08:56:11 AM
Quote from: SwampyWell for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.
Just using points per game is a bit misleading.  For example, comparing someone from the mid 00's to another from the high scoring 70's is always going to look unfair on the surface,  You really need to normalize the stats based on the scoring environment at the time.  Or at least your best guess at, since coming up with an accurate, meaningful number might be challenging in the era of highly unbalanced schedules. (Though who knows, maybe a straight goals average across the league would work well enough.)

Definitely need to use league scoring, not Cornell scoring though.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: jkahn on November 06, 2015, 09:16:22 AM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: TimVDidn't Harry Orr wear 19? Jim?  Al?
Sure did.  How many times was Abbott first-team All-American?  Glad to see Doug Ferguson rate a jersey this time, although Tredway was a great one, too.

21 and 23 were curious choices. Have to go with Chartrand or Baby for 21. (Or John Hughes, if he actually wore the number.) 23? Ross Lemon.
John Hughes wore 10 as a sophomore, 20 as a junior and 21 as a senior.  Back then, upperclassmen frequently switched to a number they liked better after it became available.  Hughes is the only one I remember who had three different numbers, but others in that era who switched numbers would include Kevin Pettit from 10 to 7, Brian Cornell 16 to 8, Brian McCutcheon 18 to 9, Bob McGuinn 15 to 7 and Jim Higgs 12 to 6.
Title: Re: Highlights?
Post by: Swampy on November 06, 2015, 09:22:37 AM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: SwampyWell for 21 you'd also have to consider Bruce Pattison. I couldn't get TBRW to generate data for Baby (probably because of the "a" in his name), but here are some revealing results for the others. Points per game are: Chartrand, 0.80; Manderville, 1.05; Pattison, 0.99. Remember, Pattison played defense, but most of us today would trade our children to have just one forward with stats like his.
Just using points per game is a bit misleading.  For example, comparing someone from the mid 00's to another from the high scoring 70's is always going to look unfair on the surface,  You really need to normalize the stats based on the scoring environment at the time.  Or at least your best guess at, since coming up with an accurate, meaningful number might be challenging in the era of highly unbalanced schedules. (Though who knows, maybe a straight goals average across the league would work well enough.)

Definitely need to use league scoring, not Cornell scoring though.

This is left as an exercise for the reader.