A few tidbits on campus architecture:
A remake of Rand Hall as fine arts library, with a major change to the exterior. http://ithacavoice.com/2015/05/cornell-unveils-design-renderings-of-fine-arts-library/
University suees Pei Cobb Freed & Partners over flaws in Johnson Museum addition. http://ithacavoice.com/2015/05/cornell-sues-world-famous-architect-i-m-pei-over-johnson-museum-of-art/
Gannett Health Center expension. http://ithacavoice.com/2015/05/55-million-health-center-rising-on-cornells-campus-2/
Another monster apartment building in Collegetown http://ithacavoice.com/2015/06/work-begins-on-6-story-building-in-ithacas-collegetown/
Quote from: David HardingAnother monster apartment building in Collegetown http://ithacavoice.com/2015/06/work-begins-on-6-story-building-in-ithacas-collegetown/
A lot more than one monster apartment building is needed to bring rents back to sane levels on the hill.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: David HardingAnother monster apartment building in Collegetown http://ithacavoice.com/2015/06/work-begins-on-6-story-building-in-ithacas-collegetown/
A lot more than one monster apartment building is needed to bring rents back to sane levels on the hill.
What are rents these days? When I was there (90-94), $300/person/month would get you a crappy dive, but I have no clue how much the luxe apartments in C-town were going for - never even considered going that route.
Quote from: RobbQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: David HardingAnother monster apartment building in Collegetown http://ithacavoice.com/2015/06/work-begins-on-6-story-building-in-ithacas-collegetown/
A lot more than one monster apartment building is needed to bring rents back to sane levels on the hill.
What are rents these days? When I was there (90-94), $300/person/month would get you a crappy dive, but I have no clue how much the luxe apartments in C-town were going for - never even considered going that route.
I got curious so I just did a quick search. $2300 for a 2-bedroom in one of those big C-town buildings on Dryden between College and Eddy, $800 for a room in an 8 bedroom group housing unit, and $1300 for a studio/1-br. Pricing on 3 and 4 bedroom units wasn't available because they're all rented out. That's eye-popping compared with 15 years ago when I was paying $575/month for a 1-bedroom in a house about 4 blocks from there. I seem to remember rents in those buildings were always pretty high by area standards but I'd be surprised if a 2-BR was more than $1500 back then.
By pure chance* the Lakeland Apartment complex popped up as one of the top hits. I lived in a 3 bedroom there and I seem to remember rent being about $350/month plus utilities (~$1300 for all 3 of us because I don't think it was an even split). Looks like it's up to $1450 for a 2-bedroom. I don't remember what those were going for but I think it was around $1100/month.
* Probably not pure chance, actually. I ended up living there because it was the only affordable option available to us lazy-ass cheapskates. We didn't start looking for housing until mid-March, so I'm guessing their target markets haven't shifted much.
Back when I was a lad...
In '80-'82, I lived in a three bedroom apartment on Dryden Rd. with hot and cold running cockroaches right around the corner from Dunbar's. This was when there was still a park across the street. We each paid $140/month.
Times change.
If Cornell does not yet have parity with BU in Red Hot Hockey, off-campus apartment rents are coming close. The difference is when you get a half-mile from campus in Ithaca, you can't sustain those rent levels.
That was quick. Five buildings on the south side of Dryden Road east of College Ave are down http://ithacavoice.com/2015/06/5-ithaca-buildings-demolished-sites-future-unclear/, including the Palms.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Back when I was a lad...
In '80-'82, I lived in a three bedroom apartment on Dryden Rd. with hot and cold running cockroaches right around the corner from Dunbar's. This was when there was still a park across the street. We each paid $140/month.
Times change.
'82-83 on Dryden Road, practically across from the purple piano: two bedrooms, $250 each, and we thought we were being robbed.
For perspective, the single year I lived in Albany I had a room with smaller dimensions than a UHall single, and paid $99 flat,
including utilities."Do you see this quarter? It used to be a nickel."
Cornell's ever-changing campus. (https://ithacavoice.com/2017/07/see-whats-finishing-construction-cornells-campus/)
Quote from: George64Cornell's ever-changing campus. (https://ithacavoice.com/2017/07/see-whats-finishing-construction-cornells-campus/)
Really good article, thank you.
Eng revisions look good. Hard to process that.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64Cornell's ever-changing campus. (https://ithacavoice.com/2017/07/see-whats-finishing-construction-cornells-campus/)
Really good article, thank you.
Eng revisions look good. Hard to process that.
I'm going to miss the big yellow, green, and red panels. The joke about color-coding the buildings doesn't work as well with just tiny stripes.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64Cornell's ever-changing campus. (https://ithacavoice.com/2017/07/see-whats-finishing-construction-cornells-campus/)
Really good article, thank you.
Eng revisions look good. Hard to process that.
I would rebuke you with a comment about how it looks like a boxy stack of corrugated cardboard, but almost anything is better than what had been there.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64Cornell's ever-changing campus. (https://ithacavoice.com/2017/07/see-whats-finishing-construction-cornells-campus/)
Really good article, thank you.
Eng revisions look good. Hard to process that.
I would rebuke you with a comment about how it looks like a boxy stack of corrugated cardboard, but almost anything is better than what had been there.
It smacks of "exterior cladding fad that will look dated very soon and disappoints when applied with such overwhelming uniformity." Looks like an "office park of the future!" past. What's so wrong with brick and stone?
Plus, it looks like we're back to hating windows again, a fad that takes hold every time our society makes ill-targeted attempts at conservation. Who
doesn't like an arrow-slit window for an office!
Quote from: Scersk '97Who doesn't like an arrow-slit window for an office!
You laugh now but they're going to come in handy when the Mongols invade.
Quote from: Scersk '97Plus, it looks like we're back to hating windows again, a fad that takes hold every time our society makes ill-targeted attempts at conservation.
I think that you're overstating things. Consider recent Cornell construction -- Veterinary School expansion, Klarman Hall, Physical Sciences Building, Milstein Hall, or the new buildings on Roosevelt Island. I remember when many of the windows in the original Engineering Quad buildings were covered over with aluminum foil because apparently sunlight interfered with whatever went on inside.
Quote from: George64sunlight interfered with whatever went on inside.
The sex. It had to have been all the sex.
Heh. Engineer sex.::wank::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: George64sunlight interfered with whatever went on inside.
The sex. It had to have been all the sex.
Nah, that's what the rooves are for.
Pritzker Prize winning Cornell architecture alumnus accused of (and tacitly admits to) sexual harassment (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/arts/design/richard-meier-sexual-harassment-allegations.html). Richard Meier '56 recently endowed the chairmanship of AAP architecture department.
Quote from: George64Pritzker Prize winning Cornell architecture alumnus accused of (and tacitly admits to) sexual harassment (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/arts/design/richard-meier-sexual-harassment-allegations.html). Richard Meier '56 recently endowed the chairmanship of AAP architecture department.
In other news, many rich people are entitled assholes.
Quote from: George64Pritzker Prize winning Cornell architecture alumnus accused of (and tacitly admits to) sexual harassment (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/arts/design/richard-meier-sexual-harassment-allegations.html). Richard Meier '56 recently endowed the chairmanship of AAP architecture department.
Email from Kent Kleinman, dean of AAP. (https://cornelluniversity.imodules.com/controls/email_marketing/admin/email_marketing_email_viewer.aspx?sid=1717&eiid=11886&seiid=7452&usearchive=1&puid=c7fb8c33-6c91-4b98-83c4-1d77b2d11c07)
If the donor decided to shift the money to Women's hockey as a sign of repentance and to make amends, would they accept it?
Quote from: TimVIf the donor decided to shift the money to Women's hockey as a sign of repentance and to make amends, would they accept it?
I'm not counting on it, so I made my annual gift to Women's Ice Hockey this morning.
As good a thread as any. An article in today's NY Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/29/arts/design/upstate-museums-herbert-johnson-corning-eastman-buffalo-akg.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb&ngrp=mxn&pvid=9C44CA2B-14D9-4BD3-995C-30DB579C2574) prominently mentions the Johnson Museum of Art. In the section on the AGK Art Museum in Buffalo, there's also a link to an earlier article about Milstein Hall.
Review of current construction on campus from The Ithaca Voice (https://ithacavoice.org/2024/10/gallery-whats-being-built-at-cornell-this-fall/).
Anyone want to be a Collegetown landlord? One of the big players is selling off hundreds of apartments. https://ithacavoice.org/2025/02/prominent-student-housing-landlord-prepares-sizable-property-sell-off/
What if we pool our money and 401K's and create The eLynah Sovereign Wealth Fund? Story says the properties all have upside potential. The photo shows a pristine building. But there still remain a lot of — what is the polite word for dumps — and ...
Quote from: Brian Crandall, The Ithaca VoiceIt should be noted that Johnston's properties are all located within the East Hill Historic District. Any exterior renovation or new development would have to be approved by the Ithaca Landmarks Preservation Commission, adding a degree of complexity to future developments.
... as Cornell found out with all the hurdles getting Meinig Field House and its artificial turf approved.
Quote from: billhowardWhat if we pool our money and 401K's and create The eLynah Sovereign Wealth Fund? Story says the properties all have upside potential. The photo shows a pristine building. But there still remain a lot of — what is the polite word for dumps — and ...
Quote from: Brian Crandall, The Ithaca VoiceIt should be noted that Johnston's properties are all located within the East Hill Historic District. Any exterior renovation or new development would have to be approved by the Ithaca Landmarks Preservation Commission, adding a degree of complexity to future developments.
... as Cornell found out with all the hurdles getting Meinig Field House and its artificial turf approved.
The field house and the artificial faced hurdles, but not because the were in the East Hill Historic District. The only part of the campus that is in a historic preservation district is the Arts Quad. The East Hill district run roughly from Eddy St down the hill and from Cascadilla Creek over to State Street. https://www.cityofithaca.org/DocumentCenter/View/1430/Historic-Districts-PDF The district the reason that what was the Chapter House had to be rebuilt looking pretty much the same after its fire, as was the case with the house that I grew up in on Eddy Street when it burned. Notably, the district does not include the commercial section of Collegetown. There is also some protect for individual landmark buildings, but they don't generally consider playing fields historic structures. A proposal to tear down Schoellkopf might get some attention.
The Ithaca Voice (https://ithacavoice.org/2025/05/gallery-whats-under-construction-at-cornell-university-in-spring-2025/) reviews current construction projects on campus. The Meinig Fieldhouse photos are a couple of weeks out of date.