Inside Lacrosse sees this an an extreme rebuilding year for Cornell. Not even ranked in top 20 (actually top 24). http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/swezey-s-way-ahead-2016-rankings/32323/1
Highlights:
01. Notre Dame
02. Denver
03. Hopkins
04. Maryland
05. Harvard
07. Syracuse
10. Yale
12. Albany
16. BU
17. Penn State
20. Brown
23. Princeton
Word on Harvard: "Something doesn't add up with the Crimson. The roster has plenty of talent and the coaching staff works hard, though it will include a couple new faces in 2016. Will the blend of old and new coaches be able to, as the British say, "stretch the enthusiasm" of their young charges? Are the players even interested in taking advisement from their elders? A monster senior class might well do some big things in 2016."
That and with another year of Bill Courtney guess next year will be an even worse year for Cornell sports
Quote from: phillysportsfanThat and with another year of Bill Courtney guess next year will be an even worse year for Cornell sports
There's always hockey.
Quote from: ithacatQuote from: phillysportsfanThat and with another year of Bill Courtney guess next year will be an even worse year for Cornell sports
There's always hockey.
Funny, but during hockey season I often find myself mumbling, "Well, there's always lacrosse".
::help::
Where's the Like button? I'd click it.
So it begins, Men's Lacrosse Announces Class of 2019 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2015/7/27/MLAX_0727150914.aspx)
On paper, another outstanding freshman class. On the field, time will tell. Interesting that there are no players from New Jersey or upstate New York, unless Pleasantville has become upstate. Good luck to them.
Quote from: billhowardOn paper, another outstanding freshman class. On the field, time will tell. Interesting that there are no players from New Jersey or upstate New York, unless Pleasantville has become upstate. Good luck to them.
Yay Pleasantville! A town with no lacrosse programs at all 15 or so years ago. Welch to Hackley though... and won All-Ivy honors?
QuoteSam Welch – M – 5-11/17
Pleasantville, N.Y. (Hackley School)
Welch earned four varsity letters at Hackley School, serving as team captain as a senior. A three-time first-team All-Ivy League selection, he was also selected to the Senior All-Star team and won the 2015 Bruce D. Hislop MVP award. Welch also earned four varsity letters in wrestling.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: billhowardOn paper, another outstanding freshman class. On the field, time will tell. Interesting that there are no players from New Jersey or upstate New York, unless Pleasantville has become upstate. Good luck to them.
Yay Pleasantville! A town with no lacrosse programs at all 15 or so years ago. Welch to Hackley though... and won All-Ivy honors?
QuoteSam Welch – M – 5-11/17
Pleasantville, N.Y. (Hackley School)
Welch earned four varsity letters at Hackley School, serving as team captain as a senior. A three-time first-team All-Ivy League selection, he was also selected to the Senior All-Star team and won the 2015 Bruce D. Hislop MVP award. Welch also earned four varsity letters in wrestling.
Yes, the Ivy League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Preparatory_School_League).
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: billhowardOn paper, another outstanding freshman class. On the field, time will tell. Interesting that there are no players from New Jersey or upstate New York, unless Pleasantville has become upstate. Good luck to them.
Yay Pleasantville! A town with no lacrosse programs at all 15 or so years ago. Welch to Hackley though... and won All-Ivy honors?
QuoteSam Welch – M – 5-11/17
Pleasantville, N.Y. (Hackley School)
Welch earned four varsity letters at Hackley School, serving as team captain as a senior. A three-time first-team All-Ivy League selection, he was also selected to the Senior All-Star team and won the 2015 Bruce D. Hislop MVP award. Welch also earned four varsity letters in wrestling.
Yes, the Ivy League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Preparatory_School_League).
Well that's not confusing at all.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: billhowardOn paper, another outstanding freshman class. On the field, time will tell. Interesting that there are no players from New Jersey or upstate New York, unless Pleasantville has become upstate. Good luck to them.
Yay Pleasantville! A town with no lacrosse programs at all 15 or so years ago. Welch to Hackley though... and won All-Ivy honors?
QuoteSam Welch – M – 5-11/17
Pleasantville, N.Y. (Hackley School)
Welch earned four varsity letters at Hackley School, serving as team captain as a senior. A three-time first-team All-Ivy League selection, he was also selected to the Senior All-Star team and won the 2015 Bruce D. Hislop MVP award. Welch also earned four varsity letters in wrestling.
Yes, the Ivy League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Preparatory_School_League).
Well that's not confusing at all.
Well, let's hope past is prologue, and there will be three more first-team All-Ivy selections in his future. Only this time it will really be The Ivy League (http://www.ivyleaguesports.com/landing/index) rather than the Ivy Preparatory School League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Preparatory_School_League). Then the statement about being three-time first-team All-Ivy will be true in both contexts, so the context will be moot.
http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2016/1/21/MLAX_0121160734.aspx
No more last-minute relocation to the Carrier Dome or that indoor field house in Binghamton. This Cornell-Hobart game moves to West Palm Beach, Feb. 27. One more reason to think Cornell will be getting (needs to be getting) an indoor practice / play facility. Harvard, Penn have them, Princeton is getting. Seasonal fabric dome goes up over the football field after the last game, comes down sometime in March. Big schools with a strong football tradition have permanent facilities. Army has one. Michigan has one and we've played lax there (the one-goal squeaker). http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2016/1/21/MLAX_0121160734.aspx
Cornell is picked 15th in the pre-season poll and face-off specialist Domenic Massimilian is Cornell's lone pre-season All-America selection, to the third team. As Cornell notes in its release, it's only the second time since before 2003 that Cornell started the season outside the top ten. http://www.cornellbigred.com/index.aspx?path=mlax
when the move all the sports off campus to the athletic fields this will be easy to do.
So do we lose that game from the ILDN schedule?
Could have posted in Hockey too.
From Inside Lacrosse:
Former Top Recruit, Hockey Star Chad Otterman Joins Cornell
After spending the season as a member of the Big Red hockey team, former Under Armour All-American and top 10 IL recruit Chad Otterman has joined the men's lacrosse team at Cornell. He spent 2014-15 playing hockey with the South Shore Kings and Philadelphia Wings of the USPHL, and he joins Matt Kerwick's squad as a freshman eligibility-wise and began practicing with the team Monday.
At 6-3, 195 lbs., the Delbarton (N.J.) defenseman was rated No. 7 as a rising junior and No. 9 as a rising senior before making the decision to focus on hockey. He registered an assist in the Under Armour game and is remembered for an impressive performance covering Shack Stanwick at the NSCLA Champions Cup while both were on the recruiting circuit.
Otterman's arrival is an unexpected boon for a Big Red squad ranked No. 15 in the preseason Cascade/Maverik Media Poll and 2016 Face-Off Yearbook. Ty Xanders called Otterman's joining the squad "massive news."
The Big Red graduated top cover defenseman Jordan Stevens and their top four scorers, but returned face-off specialist Dominic Massimilian and goalie Christian Knight. Cornell kicks off its season by hosting Penn State and former coach Jeff Tambroni on Feb. 20.
Quote from: jeff '84Could have posted in Hockey too.
From Inside Lacrosse:
Former Top Recruit, Hockey Star Chad Otterman Joins Cornell
After spending the season as a member of the Big Red hockey team, former Under Armour All-American and top 10 IL recruit Chad Otterman has joined the men's lacrosse team at Cornell. He spent 2014-15 playing hockey with the South Shore Kings and Philadelphia Wings of the USPHL, and he joins Matt Kerwick's squad as a freshman eligibility-wise and began practicing with the team Monday.
At 6-3, 195 lbs., the Delbarton (N.J.) defenseman was rated No. 7 as a rising junior and No. 9 as a rising senior before making the decision to focus on hockey. He registered an assist in the Under Armour game and is remembered for an impressive performance covering Shack Stanwick at the NSCLA Champions Cup while both were on the recruiting circuit.
Otterman's arrival is an unexpected boon for a Big Red squad ranked No. 15 in the preseason Cascade/Maverik Media Poll and 2016 Face-Off Yearbook. Ty Xanders called Otterman's joining the squad "massive news."
The Big Red graduated top cover defenseman Jordan Stevens and their top four scorers, but returned face-off specialist Dominic Massimilian and goalie Christian Knight. Cornell kicks off its season by hosting Penn State and former coach Jeff Tambroni on Feb. 20.
"Where have you gone, Harry Orr
A [Big-Red] nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)" ::woot::
Richie Moran Named To Inaugural IMLCA Hall of Fame Class (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2016/2/2/MLAX_0202162732.aspx)
Anybody see the Marist scrimmage today?
Quote from: CU77Anybody see the Marist scrimmage today?
http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57837&start=440 (http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=57837&start=440)
Doesn't sound pretty.
Yeah, that post is actually what motivated me to come here looking for cheerier info ...
Season begins!
Cornell hosts Penn State in the earliest Schoellkopf opener (Feb. 20) but with temps near 50. Lots of new faces starting for Cornell. Brennan Donville starts in goal. FOGO Domenic Massimilian takes the opening faceoff as expected and not as expected chugs upfield and scores 6 seconds into the game. Cornell plays its first midfield for almost for the first 10 minutes of the quarter. 2-2 after the first quarter. Cornell 3-2 at the half. Donville is a stud in goal.
Second half Penn State goes on a 5-0 run, Cornell goes on a 4-goal run, tied at 7, Penn State gets one more late, up 8-7. Cornell has the ball with half a minute to play and an attacker steps in the crease. Cornell gets the ball back but only enough time to get off a weak shot. 8-7 final, Penn State.
Quote from: billhowardCornell hosts Penn State in the earliest Schoellkopf opener (Feb. 20) but with temps near 50. Lots of new faces starting for Cornell. Brennan Donville starts in goal. FOGO Domenic Massimilian takes the opening faceoff as expected and not as expected chugs upfield and scores 6 seconds into the game. Cornell plays its first midfield for almost for the first 10 minutes of the quarter. 2-2 after the first quarter.
3-2 Big Red at the half. For being mostly newbies they don't look as terrible as some predicted; so far.
It is early.
::cheer:: LGR!!
Ends up as a 7-8 loss. Team looked way better than I expected. Danville very solid in goal. But geez, they need some shooting drills! So many shots off cage.
Yes, half way thru the 4th it looked like a done deal.
I'm pleased with the recovery, even if it wasn't enough.
And, you're right about the shot selection/accuracy.
Here's hoping it's the youth factor.
Wow. I feel like I'm talking about the hockey team.
Lots of upsets this weekend. Might be an interesting season after all.
::rock:: Go Red!!
Nothing to do with Cornell, but I can't resist sharing a rare instance of lacrosse appearing in a newspaper comic strip. http://www.gocomics.com/bignate/2016/03/06
Quote from: David HardingNothing to do with Cornell, but I can't resist sharing a rare instance of lacrosse appearing in a newspaper comic strip. http://www.gocomics.com/bignate/2016/03/06
Cute!
And, unfortunately true.
TicketMaster mailing today wants us not be to shut out of final four tickets at Lincoln Financial Field. Capacity: 69,176. Only three times in the past decade has FF attendance (Saturday) topped 45,000 and it has been trending downward since 2007. Last three years it averaged 30,000. LaxPower chart attached shows total attendance of Saturday, Sunday (DII DIII finals), and Monday. http://www.laxpower.com/common/NCAA-Attendance.php (LaxPower has attendance going back to 1992 and warns that the NCAA some years reported each person attending Sunday as two people since they saw two title games but LP chart only counts Sunday attendance once.)
I bet that a corresponding plot of average ticket price would explain the declining attendance
1) what teams were in it when the attendance was best
2) ticket prices
3) location saturation
4) attendance of the D1 vs non D1 games
5) weather?
6) TV viewing changed?
Quote from: upprdeck1) what teams were in it when the attendance was best
2) ticket prices
3) location saturation
4) attendance of the D1 vs non D1 games
5) weather?
6) TV viewing changed?
All good points. Regardless, the last five years, all-games attendance was lower than in the previous year. Since 2007, the only year where it didn't drop was 2009-2010, a slight tick up from the second of two years in Foxborough followed by a move to Baltimore. I believe the lax sites have some analysis and commentary suggesting the NCAA was getting too greedy on ticket prices. The 2008-to-2009 big drop was the year after the economy tanked.
Some stories / rants about NCAA lax ticket prices:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/23/sports/as-lacrosse-rises-its-final-four-falls-fast.html?hpw&rref=sports&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0 Note this quotes our old friend Phil Buttafuoco, executive director of the men's lacrosse coaches association, ex commissioner of the ECAC (until 2006: http://www.uscho.com/2006/01/25/buttafuoco-resigns-from-ecac/)
http://laxallstars.com/low-final-four-lacrosse-attendance-one-reason/
http://proscoutsports.blogspot.com/2015/05/why-college-lacrosse-final-four-weekend.html
Anyone know what happened to Christian Knight? Donville is playing well...just wondering.
he is still injured isnt he
Quote from: djk26Anyone know what happened to Christian Knight? Donville is playing well...just wondering.
IIRC, it's a foot injury of some sort.
Cornell's two wins last week propel the Big Red up to "also receiving votes" in both polls.
Syracuse actually climbs in the poll after losing to Cornell (and beating UNC): 11 to 8 in coaches poll, 9 to 8 in media poll
Notre Dame and Denver are 1-2 in coaches poll. Brown climbs 5 to 3 after beating Yale, Yale falls 1 to 4. Penn also gets vote(s).
Coaches poll: http://www.insidelacrosse.com/polls/USILA
Media poll: http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cascade-maverik-media-poll-no-more-undefeated-teams/34799
Quote from: billhowardCornell's two wins last week propel the Big Red up to "also receiving votes" in both polls.
Coaches poll: http://www.insidelacrosse.com/polls/USILA
Media poll: http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/cascade-maverik-media-poll-no-more-undefeated-teams/34799
Lacrosse Magazine actually snuck us into #20.
http://laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/nike_lacrosse_magazine_top_20/index
Senior day tomorrow. Brown will be very tough. Red needs Harvard to lose to Princeton to maintain any ILT hope.
MLAX does not deserve any type of title hopes after yesterday's embarrassing loss. The program has sunk to the bottom and quickly!
Cornell after the 22-5 loss to Brown falls to also-receving-votes in the USILA coaches poll, only. We're keeping company with Saint Joseph's, Bucknell, Penn, Bryant, High Point, Richmond, Virginia, and Fairfield. At this point the polls just indicate how far from the top voters believe the Big Red has fallen as the season winds down. It's small consolation that Harvard (7-6) is no longer on any poll, although they're in the Ivy tournament and we're not.
USILA (http://www.insidelacrosse.com/polls/usila) coaches poll has the top 5 as 1 Notre Dame (moving up despite losing), 2 Denver, 3 Brown, 4 Yale (was #1), 5 Maryland. Albany is 6, Syracuse 8, Penn is HM.
Lacrosse Magazine (http://laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/nike_lacrosse_magazine_top_20/index) has Brown #1 followed by Denver, Notre Dame, Maryland, Albany. Yale is 7, Syracuse 9, Penn also-mention.
Inside Lacrosse (http://www.insidelacrosse.com/polls/DI) media poll has it Denver, Brown, Maryland, Notre Dame, Albany. Yale is 6, Syracuse 7, Penn is HM.
Harvard will likely finish 3-3 after playing Yale Saturday and unbeaten (Ivy play) Brown plays winless Dartmouth. So the 1-4, 2-3 Ivy tournament matchups should be:
Brown vs. Harvard (RS Brown won 11-8)
Yale vs. Penn (RS Penn took Yale to OT before losing)
If we had flipped the outcome of the Harvard RS game, we'd be in as the four-seed and our reward would be a second matchup with Brown in three weeks.
Hey, the Cornell-Princeton game Saturday should be close.
Penn is also in the ILT. For a while it looked as if the Ivies would have 3 teams in the NC$$ tourney. Now that's a real stretch. Unless Penn or Sucks win the AQ, Brown & Yale are the Ivies' only hopes. ::starwars::
Well, the Women's team at 11-3 (5-1) will go on to the league tournament. Currently ranked #18, they're in a 3-way-tie for 1st in the Ivies with Penn and Princeton. They play #14 Penn (who has an identical record) on Saturday and the game will be on ESPN3.
http://cornellsun.com/2016/04/27/defense-propels-cornell-womens-lacrosse-to-cusp-of-ivy-league-title/
Season ends with a 6-7 loss at Princeton. Women also lose to Penn, 6-10.
Usual woes: turnovers (so bad in the first half that ESPNU ran a "lowlight" on them at halftime, but to be fair not nearly as bad in the 2nd half), anemic predictable offense. Donville with another strong performance in goal (10 saves), but Princeton's backup senior goalie O'Connor stole the show with 11 saves after subbing in the second half (but was aided by poor Cornell shot selection).
IMO, next year will be the crucial test of this coaching staff. With this year's freshman plus new recruits, results should be significantly better. If the vociferous critics are right, that won't happen. We'll see.
(http://media.syracuse.com/post-standard/photo/2016/05/01/-360f70b095be17ec.JPG)
Syracuse-Duke ACC title game in Kennesaw, Ga. (metro Atlanta), had to be moved to a second field on account of heavy rain. Syracuse led 9-8 with all but the last 7-1/2 minutes played when the field was drenched. After the restart 3 hours later, Syracuse outscored Duke 5-0 for a 14-8 win and the ACC championship.
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2016/5/4/five-big-red-tabbed-mens-lacrosse-all-ivy.aspx
It's strange not to have one Cornell player make 1st team All-Ivy.
Four on the second team from Cornell
John Edmonds, Cornell (Sr., M – East Setauket, N.Y.)
Jake Pulver, Cornell (So., D – Manilus, N.Y.)
Dom Massimilian, Cornell (Jr., FO – Dallas)
Brennan Donville, Cornell (Sr., GK – Oakville, Ontario, Canada)
One honorable mention
Ryan Matthews, Cornell (Sr., M – Manhasset, N.Y.)
Brown's Dylan Molloy is unanimous choice as player of the year and he's back for one more year.
----------------------------
2016 MEN'S LACROSSE ALL-IVY
PLAYER OF THE YEAR
*Dylan Molloy, Brown (Jr., A – Setauket, N.Y.)
CO-ROOKIES OF THE YEAR
Reed Junkin, Penn (Fr., GK – Wayland, Mass.)
Simon Mathias, Penn (Fr., A – Ridgefield, Conn.)
COACH OF THE YEAR
Lars Tiffany, Brown
FIRST-TEAM ALL-IVY^
Devin Dwyer, Harvard (Sr., A – Garden City, N.Y.)
*Dylan Molloy, Brown (Jr., A – Setauket, N.Y.)
Ben Reeves, Yale (So., A – Macedon, N.Y.)
Brendan Caputo, Brown (Sr., M – Westbury, N.Y.)
Zach Currier, Princeton (Jr., M – Peterborough, Ontario, Canada)
Michael Keasey, Yale (Sr., M – Newport Beach, Calif.)
Joe Lang, Harvard (So., M – Mill Valley, Calif.)
Bobby Duvnjak, Harvard (Sr., D – Manhasset, N.Y.)
Michael Quinn, Yale (Sr., D – Port Washington, N.Y.)
Alec Tulett, Brown (Jr., D – Toronto)
Connor Keating, Penn (So., LSM – Gladwyne, Pa.)
Larken Kemp, Brown (Jr., LSM – Greenwich, Conn.)
Will Gural, Brown (Sr., FO – Haverford, Pa.)
*Jack Kelly, Brown (Sr., GK – West Islip, N.Y.)
SECOND-TEAM ALL-IVY%
Ryan Ambler, Princeton (Sr., A – Rydal, Pa.)
Morgan Cheek, Harvard (So., A – Wellesley, Mass.)
Nick Doktor, Penn (Sr., A – Rochester, N.Y.)
John Edmonds, Cornell (Sr., M – East Setauket, N.Y.)
Eric Scott, Yale (Jr., M – Basking Ridge, N.J.)
Austin Sims, Princeton (So., M – Fairfield, Conn.)
Kevin Gayhardt, Penn (Jr., D – Bryn Mawr, Pa.)
Chris Keating, Yale (Jr., D – Windham, N.H.)
Walker Kirby, Harvard (Sr., D – Morristown, N.J.)
JJ Ntshaykolo, Brown (So., D – San Francisco)
Jake Pulver, Cornell (So., D – Manilus, N.Y.)
Jack Breit, Harvard (Sr., LSM – Essex Fells, N.J.)
Dom Massimilian, Cornell (Jr., FO – Dallas)
Brennan Donville, Cornell (Sr., GK – Oakville, Ontario, Canada)
Reed Junkin, Penn (Fr., GK – Wayland, Mass.)
HONORABLE MENTION
Kylor Bellistri, Brown (Sr., A – Potomac, Md.)
Henry Blynn, Brown (Sr., A – Villanova, Pa.)
Simon Mathias, Penn (Fr., A – Ridgefield, Conn.)
Jack Korzelius, Dartmouth (So., M – Purchase, N.Y.)
Ryan Matthews, Cornell (Sr., M – Manhasset, N.Y.)
Bear Goldstein, Princeton (Jr., D – Dallas)
Sam Bonafede, Princeton (So., FO – Bayshore, N.Y.)
*-Unanimous selection
^-First team expanded from 12 due to ties in the voting
%-Second team expanded from 12 due to ties in the voting
Sheesh: It will be Yale-Harvard for the Ivy lax title. First Yale beat Penn 7-6 then Harvard (9 goals by sophomore Morgan Cheek) upset #2 Brown 13-12, which has only two one-goal losses on the season (the other to Bryant). Title game noon Sunday, ESPNU. http://ivyleague.prestosports.com/sports/mlax/2015-16/releases/Yale-Harvard_Move_on_to_IvyMLAX_Championship_Game
Quote from: billhowardSheesh: It will be Yale-Harvard for the Ivy lax title. First Yale beat Penn 7-6 then Harvard (9 goals by sophomore Morgan Cheek) upset #2 Brown 13-12, which has only two one-goal losses on the season (the other to Bryant). Title game noon Sunday, ESPNU. http://ivyleague.prestosports.com/sports/mlax/2015-16/releases/Yale-Harvard_Move_on_to_IvyMLAX_Championship_Game
Can I assume that was 17-6? It would be neat if Yale lost two goals by throwing them through the back of the net though.
Attackman Mikey Wynne was the highest-profile decommit from Cornell lax in the wake of the 2013-14 sudden coaching change. He leads #3 seed Notre Dame in goals and is second in points, 31-3--34. Last year, rated #4 on the Inside Lacrosse Power 100 freshman, he was 33-4--37. http://www.und.com/sports/m-lacros/stats/2015-2016/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND
Sports Illustrated (May 4) on the Hill Academy in Ontario: http://www.si.com/edge/2016/05/04/the-hill-academy-lacrosse-canada-high-school-brodie-merrill?xid=si_social
Quote from: Nelson Rice, SIHill [Academy] is used to the heckling [by USA chauvinists]. "We face the misconception that all our players are older and that is not the case," [coach] Brodie Merrill says. "You are not allowed to repeat in the Ontario system and NCAA rules are strict when it comes to age. Some, not all, of our players choose to take an extra year of high school. You see repeating, or a PG year in the U.S. much more frequently I find."
Jeff Teat is one of those post-graduates. His age is not the issue—he turned 19 this past weekend. It's that no one can stop him. The Cornell-bound, left-handed attackman from Brampton, Ontario, is Hill's quarterback. A co-captain, Teat is the only player on the team in the top 50 of Inside Lacrosse and Recruiting Rundown's 2016 commit rankings (29th and 30th respectively). He has a cerebral approach and fluid grace on the field. Some of his passes seem telepathic. Two or three defenders are usually required to dislodge the ball from his crosse. Sometimes that isn't enough. He scored eight goals against the USA U-19 team, that Lacrosse Magazine noted, "defy brief description." He added three assists.
On his second goal this afternoon, he catches a pass on the crease, absorbs two checks, fakes out the goalie then buries the shot. He tallies a hat-trick in the first quarter.
"Some would say he is playing like the best [high school] player in North America right now," Casey Vock, an editor at the recruiting website 3d Rising, says. "Everyone believes he can elevate Cornell to where they would be a championship contender today if they had him."
Quote from: billhowardAttackman Mikey Wynne was the highest-profile decommit from Cornell lax in the wake of the 2013-14 sudden coaching change. He leads #3 seed Notre Dame in goals and is second in points, 31-3--34. Last year, rated #4 on the Inside Lacrosse Power 100 freshman, he was 33-4--37.
That and any other blue-chip decommits, and the sparse recruiting classes graduating in 2016 and 2017 that arrived on campus in the fall of 2012 and 2013, are why Cornell started four freshmen on offense this year. The 2012 recruits numbered three on the offensive side: Edmonds, Doyle,, and Henry West. West transferred to Maryland after his freshman year (brother Andrew disappeared from sight, too), where he has started at midfield the past two years for a final four team and this year's #1 NCAA seed. Only Edmonds has seen regular playing time at Cornell.
The 2013 arrivees, also only three on the offensive side were Massimilian, Mahler, and Andrew Keith. Mass is strictly a FOGO, and Mahler has seen little playing time other than backing up Mass at FOGO. Only Keith has seen significant playing time on offense.
If not Cornell's, it may be Ithaca College's year. IC is 18-1, #1 in the media poll (http://www.insidelacrosse.com/polls/DIII), and seeded second in the North bracket 32-team Division III NCAA tournament, behind RIT, which it beat head to head in April. Why 32 teams? There are about 190 DIII teams (3X that of D1) and 23 automatic qualifiers; the rest are 3 independents or conferences with no AQs (called Pool B) and 6 slots for good teams that didn't win their tournaments (Pool C). Salisbury is top seed in the South. Cortland is also in the tournament.
Also in the tournament are DI hockey teams St. Lawrence, RPI, and Colorado College.
http://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/sector-spdrs-may-madness-analyzing-the-diii-bracket-snubs-pool-c-bids-first-round-matchups/35124
Cornell head lacrosse coach Richie Moran being inducted into the IMLCA (International Men's Lacrosse Hall of Fame) during Final Four weekend in Philadelphia. a) Great. b) Shouldn't this have happened in, say, 1996 or 2006 not 2016? Richie won three of the first NCAA eight championships, all before he was 40, came close twice in the 1980s, might have won another pre-1971 if there was an NCAA tournament then. https://www.insidelacrosse.com/imlca#inductees
I think too many national championships were won by Baltimore-area teams during the years Baltimore voted in the national champion for Richie to have an easy time of it. The way his teams regularly outclassed Baltimore teams once they actually had to play to win the NC cast a long shadow over all those voting-years championships, lessening their value considerably.
Quote from: SwampyI think too many national championships were won by Baltimore-area teams during the years Baltimore voted in the national champion for Richie to have an easy time of it. The way his teams regularly outclassed Baltimore teams once they actually had to play to win the NC cast a long shadow over all those voting-years championships, lessening their value considerably.
The War of Northern Agression is still remembered by the NCAA seeding committee, it sometime seems. We got shafted (in our opinion) by the seeding teams a couple times in the last decade. This year, the last team in was Navy and the first teams out were Rutgers and Harvard. If Maryland men and women win, the South will be insufferable. Fortunately since 1975, Maryland men have always found a way to lose. If they win it will be because a Cornellian, John Tillman '91, is at the helm.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: SwampyI think too many national championships were won by Baltimore-area teams during the years Baltimore voted in the national champion for Richie to have an easy time of it. The way his teams regularly outclassed Baltimore teams once they actually had to play to win the NC cast a long shadow over all those voting-years championships, lessening their value considerably.
The War of Northern Agression is still remembered by the NCAA seeding committee, it sometime seems. We got shafted (in our opinion) by the seeding teams a couple times in the last decade. This year, the last team in was Navy and the first teams out were Rutgers and Harvard. If Maryland men and women win, the South will be insufferable. Fortunately since 1975, Maryland men have always found a way to lose. If they win it will be because a Cornellian, John Tillman '91, is at the helm.
Yes! And all those championships prior to 1971 are to real championships as Confederate money is to legal tender. ::deadhorse::
Two NCAA play-in games Wednesday. Towson built up a 17-2 lead on up-and-down neighbor Hobart and won 18-5. (Up-and-down: Two weeks apart Hobart lost to Bryant 15-2 then won 7-6.) Also Quinnipiac 14, Hartford 9, and the right to play #1 Maryland. Is Quinnipiac having dreams of grandeur in another sport?
Cornell lax fans owe Quinnipiac a ton of thanks for not releasing Rob Pannell from his letter of intent. That forced him to consider only Ivies as better alternatives.
But the Bobcats will be defanged by the Terps.
Quote from: CU77Cornell lax fans owe Quinnipiac a ton of thanks for not releasing Rob Pannell from his letter of intent. That forced him to consider only Ivies as better alternatives.
But the Bobcats will be defanged by the Terps.
Still crazy that a (non-Ivy) college owns you. Still crazy that if you commit to a college because you like the coach and he bails, you can't bail, too.
Brown is steamrolling Hopkins, 13-3 in the third. Couldn't happen to nicer guys. Up something like 10-3, Brown red-dogged the Hopkins offense, goalie Jack Kelly called for a push and went off, Brown still doubled player with the ball, Hopkins finally got a point blank shot and the backup Peter Scott made a fabulous save. 8-1 third quarter ends 14-3 Brown. Final 17-8 and announcers made up for the lack of a close game by reminding viewers how loaded Hopkins will be next year. Brown gets Yale or Navy at Brown next weekend.
First round Saturday
Brown 17, Hopkins 8, plays Navy next.
Loyola 16, Duke 11, see ya, Blue Devils
UNC 10, Marquette 9, Marquette missed two chances to tie last minute. UNC the only lower seed to win.
Notre Dame 15, Air Force 7, led by 5G 1A from Mikey Wynne, plays UNC next
Sunday
Maryland is taking down Quinnipiac 12-4 in the fourth. Final 13-6. They'll play Syracuse or Albany.
Towson 10, Denver 9. No Twopeat for Denver this year
Navy 13, #4 Yale 10, meets Brown at Brown in QFs. Navy goalie stood on his head.
Syracuse 11, Albany 9, after Albany led 6-2 at the half.
Great win by Brown. Reminded me of Cornell's epic beat-down of Hopkins in the 77 national championship game (13-1 in the third, 16-8 final).
Quote from: CU77Great win by Brown. Reminded me of Cornell's epic beat-down of Hopkins in the 77 national championship game (13-1 in the third, 16-8 final).
Are we agreed it's okay to root for Brown because they are of our kind and/but they're not Harvard (or Yale)? I'd really like to see Brown go all the way. Plus they have a nice stadium for lax and soccer (Stevenson Field, capacity 3500), although today it was bursting at the seams. (This is the field Cornell needs. Our Berman Field only has about 1,000 capacity and IIRC the seats aren't that far above the ground where Stevenson Field is really elevated. Let's see if Schoellkopf Field feels more intimate if the field is moved right up to the edge of the Crescent seating.
I'm rooting for Brown. They're fun to watch. Yale is dull, I'm hoping they lose to Navy. I really don't want to see Brown lose to Yale in the quarters; Navy would be an easier opponent for Brown.
I also wish Cornell had a dedicated lax/soccer field with 3K or so seating. But an indoor facility is a bigger need for a successful lax program.
Quarterfinals at Brown will be in the football stadium, site of Cornell's epic 1976 championship win over Maryland.
In the eastern bracket at Brown Saturday, Maryland is too much for Syracuse. Brown is being played close by Navy. Brown is missing Dylan Molloy who, shades of Rob Pannell, broke his foot. Happened in the second half of last week's 17-8 romp over Hopkins; the announcers early in the fourth said it's a runaway and Brown should pull its starters to avoid a rout and to avoid injuries.
QF at Brown Saturday 5/21/16
Maryland 13, Syracuse 7
Brown 11, Navy 10. Connors, Navy goalie, has 21 saves. Here's a neat trick Cornell might want to use when leading a key NCAA game by one with just a few seconds to go, with possession, and you're about to be trapped by the defense: Heave the ball up, up, up and toward the opponent's net. Burn off enough time to make the game effectively over when the ball comes down.
Maryland-Brown meet in semifinals next Saturday
QF Sunday at Columbus, Ohio Stadium (capacity 104,944)
North Carolina 13, Notre Dame 9 (final, after ND made a 4-goal run last 5 minutes to make it respectable)
Loyola 10, Towson 8
With 3-seed ND gone, remaining teams in the Ohio bracket are Loyola 7 and UNC / Towson unseeded. In this bracket without Molloy, Brown might have had a good shot at making the title game.
Quote from: billhowardDylan Malloy ... Brown should pull its starters to avoid a rout and to avoid injuries.
Yeah. Brown was favored to win the NC. This really reduces Brown's chance.
QF at Brown Saturday 5/21/16Maryland 13, Syracuse 7
Brown 11, Navy 10. Connors, Navy goalie, has 21 saves. Here's a neat trick Cornell might want to use when leading a key NCAA game by one with just a few seconds to go, with possession, and you're about to be trapped by the defense: Heave the ball up, up, up and toward the opponent's net. Burn off enough time to make the game effectively over when the ball comes down.
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Now you tell us! ::bang::
Actually, I saw Brown do something like this when they played Yale. It came down in the neighborhood of the goal and bounced out of bounds. Brown had an attackman positioned by the end line, so the ref called it a shot and gave the ball to Brown.
Quote from: SwampyActually, I saw Brown do something like this when they played Yale. It came down in the neighborhood of the goal and bounced out of bounds. Brown had an attackman positioned by the end line, so the ref called it a shot and gave the ball to Brown.
Now that's a neat trick with an attackman on the end line so the heave becomes a quote shot.
Molloy gets one more year since he's a junior.
Molloy gets another year but his supporting cast will be mostly gone, so it's unlikely Brown will be a top-4 team next year.
Lots of excellent play in the tournament, including by last-team-in Navy and 3rd-to-last in UNC. Cornell will have a tough task to stay at a nationally competitive level.
Maryland lost a 2-goal lead late in the fourth quarter of the 2016 NCAA lax title game and fell in OT to North Carolina. That keeps alive Maryland's incredible streak of not winning a title game since 1975 - 42 seasons. Since then, the Terps are 0-8 in title games. From 2011-2016, they made the final four 5 times with 4 title game losses. UNC hadn't won since 1991. It was also UNC over defending champ Maryland in the women's title game.
Maryland just got by Brown in the 2016 semifinal. Dylan Molloy played (barely) with a broken foot, Brown made up a 4-goal deficit late to force OT. Too bad for Bruno, which is a senior-heavy team, unless they have an incredible recruiting season.
In comparison, it's been 39 seasons since Cornell's last championship, since then 0-3 in title games.
Year Winner Runner-up
2016 North Carolina [b]Maryland[/b]
2015 Denver [b]Maryland[/b]
2014 Duke Notre Dame
2013 Duke Syracuse
2012 Loyola [b]Maryland[/b]
2011 Virginia [b]Maryland[/b]
2010 Duke Notre Dame
2009 Syracuse [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]
2008 Syracuse Johns Hopkins
2007 Johns Hopkins Duke
2006 Virginia Massachusetts
2005 Johns Hopkins Duke
2004 Syracuse Navy
2003 Virginia Johns Hopkins
2002 Syracuse Princeton
2001 Princeton Syracuse
2000 Syracuse Princeton
1999 Virginia Syracuse
1998 Princeton [b]Maryland[/b]
1997 Princeton [b]Maryland[/b]
1996 Princeton Virginia
1995 Syracuse [b]Maryland[/b]
1994 Princeton Virginia
1993 Syracuse North Carolina
1992 Princeton Syracuse
1991 North Carolina Towson
1990 Syracuse Loyola
1989 Syracuse Johns Hopkins
1988 Syracuse [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]
1987 Johns Hopkins [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b]
1986 North Carolina Virginia
1985 Johns Hopkins Syracuse
1984 Johns Hopkins Syracuse
1983 Syracuse Johns Hopkins
1982 North Carolina Johns Hopkins
1981 North Carolina Johns Hopkins
1980 Johns Hopkins Virginia
1979 Johns Hopkins [b]Maryland[/b]
1978 Johns Hopkins Cornell
1977 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b] Johns Hopkins
1976 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b] Maryland
1975 [b]Maryland[/b] Navy
1974 Johns Hopkins [b]Maryland[/b]
1973 [b]Maryland[/b] Johns Hopkins
1972 Virginia Johns Hopkins
1971 [b][color=#FF0000]Cornell[/color][/b] [b]Maryland[/b]
Dom Starsia (Brown '73) was released as Virginia lax coach after 24 years, 13 final fours, and 4 NCAA titles. But the last title was 2011. In the ACC, Virginia was 1-15 the last four years.
http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/052616_stevens_does_starsias_ouster_take_lacrosse says the number of coaching changes is up in the last five years and talks about how schools are quicker to make a change in head coaches after only a couple bad seasons (Richie Meade at Navy, for example).
It's pretty late in the season for Virginian to find a new head coach. Maybe they'll punt on 2017, temporarily elevate an assistant, and use the year to find one? http://www.streakingthelawn.com/2016/6/2/11840856/virginia-lacrosse-coach-contracts-marc-van-arsdale-dom-starsia says longtime assistant Marc Van Arsdale has his contract extended through the end of the 2017 season. It described Starsia's departure as "termination without cause." According to the https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cavaliers-journal/post/virginia-mens-lacrosse-coach-dom-starsia-signed-new-five-year-contract-in-january/2012/02/20/gIQAlTkPPR_blog.html, Starsia's 2012 contract called for him to make $250,000 plus longevity bonuses of $225,000 if he was head coach as of January 2015 and $150,000 if he was coach as of the contract's January 2017 termination date. Before the 2012 contract he was making just over $150,000.
Interesting to see how long Brown holds on to Sean Kirwin (Tufts '12), assistant at Tufts 2 years and now Brown 2 years. He's getting a lot of credit for developing the Brown attack. A Virginia would probably like to see him as head coach somewhere at a small school for 2-3 years (or at least have another couple years at Brown) and if he makes things happen there, make him a nice offer.
A five-year-old Bloomberg story says several Big Ten schools committed about $10 million top make their men's and women's lax teams competitive and annual operating expenses are about $2M a year. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-05-27/lacrosse-private-party-is-crashed-by-michigan-wolverines-with-10-million
This is an arms race the Ivies may have trouble matching. Except that Brown probably was the best team this year until Dylan Molloy broke his foot. He did win the Tewaarton.
Matt Madelon (Roanoke '06), the interim lax coach, is made permanent at Princeton. http://www.goprincetontigers.com/news/2016/6/21/matt-madalon-named-head-mens-lacrosse-coach.aspx
Ousted coach Chris Bates winds up at Episcopal Academy ( Newtown Square, PA). http://www.delcotimes.com/article/DC/20160705/SPORTS/160709845 And explains his actions (bumping a Brown player on the field) that got him suspended than fired: http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DI/2015-16/news/070616_bates_breaks_silence_in_letter_to_lacrosse_community
http://cornellbigred.com/news/2016/7/26/jordan-stevens-15-joins-mens-lacrosse-staff-as-assistant-coach.aspx
Can anyone comment on Ryan and Dom no longer being part of the lacrosse program?
I am pretty sure that Ryan only needs one semester to graduate so I am guessing -- no inside info; just a guess -- that he is taking a leave of absence in the fall and will be back in the spring. Others have done this in the past.
No clue about DM.
Kerwick dismissed Dom from the team. Post by a teammate on Laxpower today.
Quote from: woodpileKerwick dismissed Dom from the team. Post by a teammate on Laxpower today.
That post must have been deleted by the moderator, as there's nothing of that nature on the Cornell thread.
The post was entered about 5 pm yesterday and was up for approx 30 min before it was deleted. It was authored by a person who claimed to be a friend and teammate of Dom's (and a recent grad) and who stated that Kerwick called DM in June to tell him he was " no longer welcome" on the team. The poster also stated that there were no off-field incidents; no other specifics were provided.