I just ordered my tix. The guy on the phone said they were really pissed about all the Hockey East teams being sent elsewhere - especially UNH. He said that it appears clear that Cornell and BC will buy the most tix - not surprising.
Maybe they'd sell more tickets if they priced them in line with Worcester. Empty seats buy little fried dough.
[Q] Maybe they'd sell more tickets if they priced them in line with Worcester. Empty seats buy little fried dough. [/Q]
::laugh::
good one, al :-)
but i am still paying the $...damnit
And just think how much we'll be paying for the donuts once we get there.
what are the price differences between sites?
Mmmm, fried dough. :-P
The 2-day package for Providence is $84, and there is a confusing system to deal with in order to get tickets.
Worcester tickets are available on ticketmaster.com for $25 for each day, making the 2-day package $50.
Of course this doesn't include any handling charges or other fees that are mysterious as the NCAA RPI good-win bonus. ticketmaster usually tacks on at least $6 per ticket, while I ordered multiple tickets from Providence today and only had a per-order $7 added on.
Maybe the poll about Entenmann's and Freihofer's ought to include Dunkin Donuts too?
As in
Which is best?
( ) Dunkin Donuts
( ) Krispy Kreme
( ) Tim Horton's
?
Ticketmaster charged $34.35 for each $25 ticket to Worcester. makes it almost as much as Prov :(
Well, it will be worth it to ride Dov some more
The answer is clearly Krispy Kreme. Age needn't even bother with a poll.
QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:
As in
Which is best?
( ) Dunkin Donuts
( ) Krispy Kreme
( ) Tim Horton's
?
Never heard of Hortons, but I would take a hot KK over DD. Once the donuts are room temperature they aren't that much different (Yes, DD is more cakey, but a cool KK just isn't that great either.)
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Yes, but have you ever had a Dunkin Donut fresh out of the hot fat? I had the pleasure once, after driving a friend to the Ithaca bus terminal at some obscene hour of the morning. Add that to a cup of DD coffee, and I was seriously considering getting up at 5am for all my classes from then on.
Too bad all the DD's where I live get their donuts delivered. Even the 24-hour one doesn't bake them on site.
Anyway, Go Red!
QuoteBigRed Apple wrote:
QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:
As in
Which is best?
( ) Dunkin Donuts
( ) Krispy Kreme
( ) Tim Horton's
?
Never heard of Hortons, but I would take a hot KK over DD. Once the donuts are room temperature they aren't that much different (Yes, DD is more cakey, but a cool KK just isn't that great either.)
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Wow. I'm not the only one up...
I made the poll anyway, but there should be no contest.
You are right! The answer is definitely Tim Hortons!! I sure have heard of that one! Tho I'm not a huge donut fan I gotta give props to my peeps north of the border. Yay!
Tim Hortons, without a doubt named after an NHL player, is a Canadian coffee/ donut chain that also makes soup and sandwiches at lunch as well as cakes. It is much more prevalent throughout Canada than either DD or KK is in the US (at least in the parts of NE US that I have visited).
Melissa, you are a true patriot. I voted for DD for sentimental reasons: when I was a kid, my Dad used to pretend like his steering wheel jerked involuntarily towards the Dunkin Donuts every time he drove past. KK is yummy, but hasn't built up that sort of history.
I voted for Tim Hortons because this is a hockey forum dammit! B-]
I assume someone has told the ticket guy that "all the Hockey East teams" as he put it *haven't* been sent elsewhere. Muppet news flash - Boston College plays in Hockey East.
It's worth pointing out that the *only* regional that has one team from all of the "big four" conferences is our Eastern Regional. ECAC, BC from Hockey East, OSU from the CCHA, and MSU Mankato from the WCHA. Nice gift from the selection committee.
Can't this be illegal? Isn't it just corporate scalping? Hasn't anybody ever sued them for this? They can't say it's a convenience charge. Convenient for whom? It's the only place we can get tickets to some events, and the only thing ticketmaster does is sell tickets, so it's not like they are going out of their way to offer us this service. Providence is going to get screwed even more because I won't be going. There is no way I'm spending that kind of money. They can kiss my ***. I'll watch it on TV.
QuoteMarshall Chapin '99 wrote:
It's worth pointing out that the *only* regional that has one team from all of the "big four" conferences is our Eastern Regional. ECAC, BC from Hockey East, OSU from the CCHA, and MSU Mankato from the WCHA. Nice gift from the selection committee.
Mike didn't seem to think MSU was such a "nice gift.";-)
You can't be serious. Ticketmaster doesn't provide entertainment, they provide a service - and a much more valuable one than they are given credit for. They provide distribution and customer service personnel for a fee. They calculate their fee (or at least a part of it) on a per ticket basis. Calling it a "convenience charge" is Orwellian, but not completely dishonest. The convenience is provided to (1) the arena that can cut back on staff to handle the tasks that TM takes over; and (2) TM's massive phone bank and surprisingly easy internet ordering system can handle volume in a short time in a way that arena staff just can't - the complaining about the PC ticket office bears this out.
If you think TM is overcharging, complain to Adam Smith. They only have a "monopoly" because arenas have decided that their combination of price and service will not depress attendance in a significant way. Why PC has a fee is a bit beyond me - probably just because they can, and by doing it on a per order (rather than per ticket) basis, they can be said to be cutting the customer a break vis-a-vis TM.
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That was exactly my point. All they do is provide us with tickets. So basically we have to pay them to buy tickets through them when sometimes the only way to can get tickets to an event is by purchasing them from TM. If it were a choice, I could understand how it could be more convenient. But it's not. If the beneficiary of the service is the arenas, then make the *arenas* subsidize the extra cost of the tickets. It is no more convenient for me to buy through them than it is to buy through the venue. As a matter of fact, it's just as hard to get tickets to popular events through TM as it is through the arena. Tickets sell out in a matter of minutes. And these venues sometimes seriously wonder why they aren't making any money. Tickets are already expensive enough. I'll stay home before I pay them for their "convenience."
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QuoteJason wrote:
That was exactly my point. All they do is provide us with tickets. So basically we have to pay them to buy tickets through them when sometimes the only way to can get tickets to an event is by purchasing them from TM. If it were a choice, I could understand how it could be more convenient. But it's not. If the beneficiary of the service is the arenas, then make the *arenas* subsidize the extra cost of the tickets. It is no more convenient for me to buy through them than it is to buy through the venue. As a matter of fact, it's just as hard to get tickets to popular events through TM as it is through the arena. Tickets sell out in a matter of minutes. And these venues sometimes seriously wonder why they aren't making any money. Tickets are already expensive enough. I'll stay home before I pay them for their "convenience."
You are really going overboard on the marketing-driven euphemism for the TM service charge. Call it whatever you like, but you are paying for the subcontracting of ticket services.
Shows sell out in minutes
because TM has the capability to handle the volume. In the absence of TM the shows wouldn't sell out so quickly, but that would only be because everyone would spend hours hitting redial to get through to an understaffed office as it slowly filled ticket orders. You don't see the choice becuase it isn't presented to
you, but the arena made the choice when it signed the contract with TM. TM doesn't buy the tickets, they get them on consignment and return unsold tickets to the arena for day-of-event sales.
DD has chosen to pass the cost on to you because they believe that they can. If DD is wrong, arenas will (in the long run) either stop using TM or force TM to lower their fees. The sense I get is that the market is elastic enough to bear the cost of service charges, so you are SOL.
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Not to mention most arenas using TM will allow you to buy them at the arena box office and avoid the TM surcharge.
Quotebig red apple wrote:
Why PC has a fee is a bit beyond me - probably just because they can.
They can and so can everyone else. Placid used to charge a service charge as well.
JH
Quotebig red apple wrote:
Why PC has a fee is a bit beyond me - probably just because they can. [/q]
They can and so can everyone else. Placid used to charge a service charge as well.
JH
Quotebig red apple wrote:
You are really going overboard on the marketing-driven euphemism for the TM service charge.
That reminds me of the experience I had the first time I saw a charge of a dollar or two per person for "coperto" on the bill at a restaurant in Italy. Somone translated it literally as a charge for the silverware, and I was rather miffed that I had to pay to use their fork and knife. But once I thought of it as a service charge (sort of like the automatic tip on large parties in the US), I was perfectly cool with it. It is hard to get used to not tipping, though, especially when you've just had an amazing meal with appetizer and dessert and the better part of a liter of extremely drinkable house wine for about twenty bucks all told. Have I mentioned how much I like visiting Italy? :-D
I suppose what you're paying for is the extra handling required to either mail you the tickets or to prepare and distribute them at "will call." If you go to the window on game day there's no fee--they're selling to someone every 30 seconds and there's no filling envelopes, writing names, putting them in boxes alphabetically, etc.--but you risk getting a less good seat or facing a sell-out.
QuoteAl DeFlorio wrote:
If you go to the window on game day there's no fee . . . but you risk getting a less good seat or facing a sell-out.
I think this is the heart of it. The service charge should be thought of as an insurance policy.
Although I have been to concerts where there was a service charge if you ordered them ahead of time, and then the prices went up by the same amount on the day of the show.
I think most people don't have a problem with paying an extra $1-2 or 5-10%; the problem is that sometimes the convenience fees are a substantial fraction of the cost of the ticket.
QuoteJohn T. Whelan '91 wrote:
I think most people don't have a problem with paying an extra $1-2 or 5-10%; the problem is that sometimes the convenience fees are a substantial fraction of the cost of the ticket.
Agree. And more so as time goes by. Especially when it's done on a per ticket basis.
I paid 2.50 in convenience fees for a 10 dollar ticket to an OHL game. ::help::
My only issue with them is when i went to buy tickets for the regionals last year. I bought 20 tickets, got group rates at the Centrum, because it was cheaper to buy 20 from them than 15 from ticketmaster. I easily got rid of the extras and saved, literally, hundreds of dollars.
I think the arena was most upset b/c they were expecting UNH to be in the east. Evidently, UNH has a big following.
Too bad. Poetic justice, perhaps, in return for their pricing policy.