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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: profudge on February 22, 2015, 08:53:05 AM

Title: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: profudge on February 22, 2015, 08:53:05 AM
I wish to thank the senior class for their 4 years of effort and hockey enjoyment they have provided.   May all of the Big Red seniors enjoy good luck and fun as they move on.  
May they have success in all that they do!!

Thank You - I have appreciated the hockey very much.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Trotsky on February 22, 2015, 09:26:12 AM
So say we all.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2015, 10:28:10 AM
Some added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Swampy on March 04, 2015, 12:06:39 AM
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: KeithK on March 04, 2015, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: BearLover on March 04, 2015, 03:19:09 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 04, 2015, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.

The seniors have 18 goals out of 55 for the team, so 1/3. I don't consider that to be great. Granted Lowry is out, Ryan was hurt and Ferlin has left, but I expected more from them. Moulson had 2 years where he scored 18 himself. Greening was in the 13-15 range and Nash 12-13. Lowry had 12 as a soph and Ferlin had years of 10 & 13, but overall I can't say they did what I was expecting.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: underskill on March 04, 2015, 05:40:10 PM
that's also a function of who their linemates were too though.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: BearLover on March 04, 2015, 05:44:03 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.

The seniors have 18 goals out of 55 for the team, so 1/3. I don't consider that to be great. Granted Lowry is out, Ryan was hurt and Ferlin has left, but I expected more from them. Moulson had 2 years where he scored 18 himself. Greening was in the 13-15 range and Nash 12-13. Lowry had 12 as a soph and Ferlin had years of 10 & 13, but overall I can't say they did what I was expecting.
Seriously?  1/3 of the team's goals given that one left for the NHL, one has been out 2/3 of the season, and one has been out for 1/2 of the season and hurt the 1/2 he has played?  That is an incredible output even though this year has been relatively disappointing given the previous three.  Taking the best player from one class (Moulson, Greening) and comparing him against the best player from this class is not what the question was asking, but EVEN THEN I'm not sure that player is better than Ferlin.

Any disappointment in this class is due only to how good they were the past three years.  There were only two draft picks in the incoming class--two more were drafted because of how great their freshman years were, and a third made the US U-19 team.  When the best player no longer plays for the team and the other two best players have missed almost the entire season or been injured the entire season, how can you expect more than 1/3 of the goals to come from this class?
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: KeithK on March 04, 2015, 07:17:42 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.
I will accept your point and clarify. Predicting team success based on the quality of a recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 05, 2015, 06:43:42 AM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.

The seniors have 18 goals out of 55 for the team, so 1/3. I don't consider that to be great. Granted Lowry is out, Ryan was hurt and Ferlin has left, but I expected more from them. Moulson had 2 years where he scored 18 himself. Greening was in the 13-15 range and Nash 12-13. Lowry had 12 as a soph and Ferlin had years of 10 & 13, but overall I can't say they did what I was expecting.
Seriously?  1/3 of the team's goals given that one left for the NHL, one has been out 2/3 of the season, and one has been out for 1/2 of the season and hurt the 1/2 he has played?  That is an incredible output even though this year has been relatively disappointing given the previous three.  Taking the best player from one class (Moulson, Greening) and comparing him against the best player from this class is not what the question was asking, but EVEN THEN I'm not sure that player is better than Ferlin.

Any disappointment in this class is due only to how good they were the past three years.  There were only two draft picks in the incoming class--two more were drafted because of how great their freshman years were, and a third made the US U-19 team.  When the best player no longer plays for the team and the other two best players have missed almost the entire season or been injured the entire season, how can you expect more than 1/3 of the goals to come from this class?

+1
Title: Re: THANK YOU Seniors
Post by: Tom Lento on March 05, 2015, 07:24:43 PM
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: TrotskySome added motivation.  No Schafer-coached class has gone its whole career without playing in the ECAC title game.  The seniors have yet to do so. (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_ECAC_Series_Icon.html)

Amazing. This was the most heralded class in recent history.
Just shows that recruiting is a bit of a crapshoot.
How so?  This class lived up to its billing.  The rest of the team, much less heralded, has been much less effective.

The seniors have 18 goals out of 55 for the team, so 1/3. I don't consider that to be great. Granted Lowry is out, Ryan was hurt and Ferlin has left, but I expected more from them. Moulson had 2 years where he scored 18 himself. Greening was in the 13-15 range and Nash 12-13. Lowry had 12 as a soph and Ferlin had years of 10 & 13, but overall I can't say they did what I was expecting.
Seriously?  1/3 of the team's goals given that one left for the NHL, one has been out 2/3 of the season, and one has been out for 1/2 of the season and hurt the 1/2 he has played?  That is an incredible output even though this year has been relatively disappointing given the previous three.  Taking the best player from one class (Moulson, Greening) and comparing him against the best player from this class is not what the question was asking, but EVEN THEN I'm not sure that player is better than Ferlin.

Any disappointment in this class is due only to how good they were the past three years.  There were only two draft picks in the incoming class--two more were drafted because of how great their freshman years were, and a third made the US U-19 team.  When the best player no longer plays for the team and the other two best players have missed almost the entire season or been injured the entire season, how can you expect more than 1/3 of the goals to come from this class?

Yeah, wow. There are 6 seniors on the roster. With Ferlin that means 3 of the best players in a class of 7 people combined to appear in ~25 games during their senior year. Two of the remaining four players scored a grand total of 3 goals in their first three years. Given all of that I'm actually impressed with how much of the load these guys have carried. They basically took up a normal senior class load despite the losses to key personnel.