http://www.foxsports.com/arizona/story/arizona-state-to-launch-division-i-hockey-program-111814
https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/534788682126196736
So I'm thinking they make sense for .... Hockey East? Or maybe we finally get rid of worthless Union and replace them with the Sun Devils (joke).
Can Northern Arizona follow suit, or are D-3s locked out (except for grandfathered programs)?
Quote from: TrotskyCan Northern Arizona follow suit, or are D-3s locked out (except for grandfathered programs)?
I'd really prefer this. Every time another jock-factory Big Bully joins D1, the thought creeps in about how much time we have before the CCT/CC/LSSU/Ivy sized schools can no longer reasonably compete.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: TrotskyCan Northern Arizona follow suit, or are D-3s locked out (except for grandfathered programs)?
I'd really prefer this. Every time another jock-factory Big Bully joins D1, the thought creeps in about how much time we have before the CCT/CC/LSSU/Ivy sized schools can no longer reasonably compete.
As long as it's not cost-effective we're alright.
Once a cheap plastic ice surface is perfected, the NC$$ will just be another SEC dumpster dive.
Which will be higher, their save percentage or their admissions rate?
Quote from: TrotskyCan Northern Arizona follow suit, or are D-3s locked out (except for grandfathered programs)?
If memory serves, the final effect of Prop 65-1 was that only those schools grandfathered in by that proposition (Clarkson, SLU, RPI, CC in men's hockey) can grant scholarships. I don't believe there's anything preventing a school from making the jump up, a la RIT.
With respect to the example stated, a moot point - NAU is D-1, primary affiliation with the Big Sky Conference.
Unless I am naïve and your Northern Arizona comment is tongue in cheek, they are a Division 1 school already and participate in 15 D1 sports granting athletic scholarships. Thus, the issue of needing to be grandfathered in is not relevant.
The Ivy League is their own worst enemy already. I understand why football only plays 10 games and starts the third week of September to allow incoming students time to get settled, but playing six less games per year in hockey starting three weeks later than everyone else not only creates significant problem in competing against out of conference teams but hurts recruiting. Six addition games per year or 24 over a career is significant in development
toward what most recruits hope will lead them towards the next level. Hockey in this regard is different than other sports. I say this though fully supporting the Ivy League concept of true student/athletics.
Quote from: kingpin248Quote from: TrotskyCan Northern Arizona follow suit, or are D-3s locked out (except for grandfathered programs)?
If memory serves, the final effect of Prop 65-1 was that only those schools grandfathered in by that proposition (Clarkson, SLU, RPI, CC in men's hockey) can grant scholarships. I don't believe there's anything preventing a school from making the jump up, a la RIT.
I'm not sure about what that specific Prop entails, but if I remember correctly, RIT had to get NCAA approval to make the jump for their men's hockey team as there was (maybe still is?) a moratorium on a college moving only one sport from DIII to DI. I know for cerain that they had to get an exception for their women's team to make the jump a few years ago.