42-7 final score. 538 to 308 total yards. 0-8 record. This has to be one of the weakest teams in recent Cornell history. Columbia game coming up may get us into the win column.
In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
I'm not confident they can beat Columbia away, so a 0-10 season is a very real possibility. A look Dartmouth's roster is similar to the other teams Cornell has faced like Harvard and Yale in size disparity. Cornell has 5 players weighing 290 or more, Dartmouth has 12. Until Cornell can recruit to that level of size, they will continually be at a huge disadvantage in games.
"We were small. But we were slow."
Quote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
It's really too bad that the Cornell-Columbia game can't end in a tie.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Quote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the
one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Obviously in the first half games the defense in on the field too much. The point is the defense even with second half adjustments is again greatly outscored in the second half, in part because they are fatigued due to the inept offense.
Quote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Obviously in the first half games the defense in on the field too much. The point is the defense even with second half adjustments is again greatly outscored in the second half, in part because they are fatigued due to the inept offense.
You know that the other teams make adjustments too, right? Here's a better theory: the teams Cornell is playing are actually much better at football than Cornell. Both teams play to their abilities - the combination of innate talent and coaching input - and Cornell gets beat by those better teams in equal measure in all halves.
Some tough times for Cornell sports. Football 0-8. Men's basketball losers of 32 of its last 33 D-1 games, broadly picked last in Ivies this year. Hockey, both men and women, winless in 8 combined games.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Obviously in the first half games the defense in on the field too much. The point is the defense even with second half adjustments is again greatly outscored in the second half, in part because they are fatigued due to the inept offense.
You know that the other teams make adjustments too, right? Here's a better theory: the teams Cornell is playing are actually much better at football than Cornell. Both teams play to their abilities - the combination of innate talent and coaching input - and Cornell gets beat by those better teams in equal measure in all halves.
+1 Although I only gave it to you because you were the last posting. Beeeej should get the point, that Ken7111 never got.:-D
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ugarteQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Obviously in the first half games the defense in on the field too much. The point is the defense even with second half adjustments is again greatly outscored in the second half, in part because they are fatigued due to the inept offense.
You know that the other teams make adjustments too, right? Here's a better theory: the teams Cornell is playing are actually much better at football than Cornell. Both teams play to their abilities - the combination of innate talent and coaching input - and Cornell gets beat by those better teams in equal measure in all halves.
+1 Although I only gave it to you because you were the last posting. Beeeej should get the point, that Ken7111 never got.:-D
I can accept that. What I can't accept is the program as presently constructed stinks. I'm sure David Archer is a nice guy and former Cornell player, however I hope Andy doesn't let this drag on past next season if there is no progress that translates into wins. However, with the BB coaching situation I'm not confident that it will.
Quote from: Ken711Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ugarteQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Ken711Quote from: djk26In 8 games, Cornell has been outscored 275-103. That's nearly 3:1. ::worry::
Certainly part of the problem is the fact of an inept offense that can't sustain drives and the defense collapses in the second of games from being on the field too long. They have been outscore in the second half of games 138-51.
So you're saying that since they've been outscored by only 137-52 in the first half, but by 138-51 in the second, the second half differential must be due to fatigue?
Good teams make adjustments at half-time. Assuming it's not coaching, then what else explains it.
Okay, let's try this one more time.
The score differential in the first half is the tiniest, most meaninglessly minuscule smidge better than the score differential in the second half. And you're saying that the one point difference in score differential over the span of eight games - literally, an eighth of a point per game - is clear evidence that fatigue is causing our defense to play worse in the second half than in the first.
Obviously in the first half games the defense in on the field too much. The point is the defense even with second half adjustments is again greatly outscored in the second half, in part because they are fatigued due to the inept offense.
You know that the other teams make adjustments too, right? Here's a better theory: the teams Cornell is playing are actually much better at football than Cornell. Both teams play to their abilities - the combination of innate talent and coaching input - and Cornell gets beat by those better teams in equal measure in all halves.
+1 Although I only gave it to you because you were the last posting. Beeeej should get the point, that Ken7111 never got.:-D
I can accept that. What I can't accept is the program as presently constructed stinks. I'm sure David Archer is a nice guy and former Cornell player, however I hope Andy doesn't let this drag on past next season if there is no progress that translates into wins. However, with the BB coaching situation I'm not confident that it will.
I've never met Andy Noel, and I'm not close enough to Cornell Athletics to know how much of Cornell's successes & failures during his time have been due to him. But from what I've seen, Andy won't get rid of a coach until his/her contract is up unless he doesn't like or get along with the coach. Then he will fire the coach, winning or not, the first time circumstances provide an excuse.
It doesn't seem Andy fires coaches under contract regardless of how uncompetitive a program is.
New Sports Illustrated ranks Cornell basketball 301st best team in country and 8th in Ivies.
Quote from: CASNew Sports Illustrated ranks Cornell basketball 301st best team in country and 8th in Ivies.
who hooo! We're ranked!
Quote from: CASIt doesn't seem Andy fires coaches under contract regardless of how uncompetitive a program is.
Well, not exactly (http://cornellsun.com/blog/2013/11/15/cornell-dismisses-mens-lacrosse-coach-after-team-suspended-for-hazing/).
Quote from: RobbQuote from: CASNew Sports Illustrated ranks Cornell basketball 301st best team in country and 8th in Ivies.
who hooo! We're ranked!
I think the proper term is "rank." FYP.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: CASIt doesn't seem Andy fires coaches under contract regardless of how uncompetitive a program is.
Well, not exactly (http://cornellsun.com/blog/2013/11/15/cornell-dismisses-mens-lacrosse-coach-after-team-suspended-for-hazing/).
Former head coach Tim Pendergast was let go after the 2003 season and a combined 7-22 record in three years.
DeLuca firing had nothing to do with how competitive the team was. I'm not sure Pendergast had a contract longer than 3 years.
Quote from: Ken711Quote from: SwampyQuote from: CASIt doesn't seem Andy fires coaches under contract regardless of how uncompetitive a program is.
Well, not exactly (http://cornellsun.com/blog/2013/11/15/cornell-dismisses-mens-lacrosse-coach-after-team-suspended-for-hazing/).
Former head coach Tim Pendergast was let go after the 2003 season and a combined 7-22 record in three years.
Is he available???
Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: Ken711Quote from: SwampyQuote from: CASIt doesn't seem Andy fires coaches under contract regardless of how uncompetitive a program is.
Well, not exactly (http://cornellsun.com/blog/2013/11/15/cornell-dismisses-mens-lacrosse-coach-after-team-suspended-for-hazing/).
Former head coach Tim Pendergast was let go after the 2003 season and a combined 7-22 record in three years.
Is he available???
I hope we can have at least 7 wins in 3 years but I think it's going to be close.