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Title: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Trotsky on March 30, 2014, 12:15:05 PM
Current list:
Cor Jr F  Brian Ferlin        32 13-14-27
Qpc Jr F  Bryce van Brabant   40 15- 7-22
RPI Jr F  Ryan Haggerty       35 28-15-43
RPI So F  Mike Zalewski       35  9-17-26
SLU Fr F  Matt Carey          38 18-19-37


Full NCAA list is http://www.uscho.com/early-departures-2014/.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: BearLover on March 30, 2014, 06:52:58 PM
Brabant put up mediocre numbers at Q.  He may be big and bruising, but I've never seen an ECAC forward with such numbers have a successful NHL career.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Josh '99 on March 31, 2014, 08:28:49 AM
Quote from: BearLoverBrabant put up mediocre numbers at Q.  He may be big and bruising, but I've never seen an ECAC forward with such numbers have a successful NHL career.
I'd call George Parros a fair ceiling for what could reasonably be expected, though van Brabant doesn't have Parros's size.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: ScrewBUHarvardtoo on March 31, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
Haggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: marty on March 31, 2014, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: ScrewBUHarvardtooHaggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper

I don't believe he will. I hope I'm wrong but he has so much to learn that it's hard to believe that he'll have success soon. He needs seasoning.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: ursusminor on April 01, 2014, 09:10:20 AM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ScrewBUHarvardtooHaggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper

I don't believe he will. I hope I'm wrong but he has so much to learn that it's hard to believe that he'll have success soon. He needs seasoning.

I have a hard time believing that he will be able to get as open in the NHL as he did in college. The following is a video that RPI-TV put together of all of his home goals:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQo5A6dE9Q

Sorry about the goal horn. :-P
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: marty on April 01, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ScrewBUHarvardtooHaggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper

I don't believe he will. I hope I'm wrong but he has so much to learn that it's hard to believe that he'll have success soon. He needs seasoning.

I have a hard time believing that he will be able to get as open in the NHL as he did in college. The following is a video that RPI-TV put together of all of his home goals:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQo5A6dE9Q

Sorry about the goal horn. :-P

Did anyone include the Sunday night through the point - five forwards on the RPI PP - Green SHG in a Dartmouth highlight reel? Guess who was on the point.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: ursusminor on April 01, 2014, 03:42:28 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ScrewBUHarvardtooHaggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper

I don't believe he will. I hope I'm wrong but he has so much to learn that it's hard to believe that he'll have success soon. He needs seasoning.

I have a hard time believing that he will be able to get as open in the NHL as he did in college. The following is a video that RPI-TV put together of all of his home goals:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQo5A6dE9Q

Sorry about the goal horn. :-P

Did anyone include the Sunday night through the point - five forwards on the RPI PP - Green SHG in a Dartmouth highlight reel? Guess who was on the point.

Not in a Haggerty highlight video or any of the other compilations that RPI-TV has produced, at least those which they have put on the web. You can, of course, find that in the game video which is on the RPI-TV website.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: marty on April 01, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: marty
Quote from: ScrewBUHarvardtooHaggerty should have some success (barring injury) in the NHL. The guy is an absolute sniper

I don't believe he will. I hope I'm wrong but he has so much to learn that it's hard to believe that he'll have success soon. He needs seasoning.

I have a hard time believing that he will be able to get as open in the NHL as he did in college. The following is a video that RPI-TV put together of all of his home goals:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bQo5A6dE9Q

Sorry about the goal horn. :-P

Did anyone include the Sunday night through the point - five forwards on the RPI PP - Green SHG in a Dartmouth highlight reel? Guess who was on the point.

Not in a Haggerty highlight video or any of the other compilations that RPI-TV has produced, at least those which they have put on the web. You can, of course, find that in the game video which is on the RPI-TV website.

The Big Green on Sunday the 9th (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwZVLak7-ZI)
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: slh10 on April 11, 2014, 06:13:37 PM
Ferlin signing with Bruins at entry level contract. Really hoped we would not have anyone leave early. Good luck Brian!!!
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Scersk '97 on April 11, 2014, 07:15:23 PM
Quote from: slh10Ferlin signing with Bruins at entry level contract. Really hoped we would not have anyone leave early. Good luck Brian!!!

In my opinion, the worst early signing since Shane Hynes, in all the senses that can mean. I don't think he's NHL-ready, and I wonder if he, like Shane, won't sniff the big time. Another year, particularly a star turn on a probable national title contender, could've raised his stock considerably.

I wish him the best; for his sake, I hope I'm wrong.

Guess it's time for balanced scoring and shutdown defense—back to '97!
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Icy on April 11, 2014, 09:30:20 PM
I'm sorry to see him go.  In my opinion though, he wasn't developing a lot as a hockey player while he was at Cornell.  Maybe he wanted to get into a professional program where he would be coached differently.  This is just speculation on my part.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Trotsky on April 11, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
Vaya con Dios, Brian.  I was hoping the Bruins being so stacked would take the signing pressure off him.

Looks like, ready or not, time for Matt Buckles to be a second liner.  Hit those weights, kid.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Trotsky on April 11, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
Oops, nm.  Old news.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: MattS on April 11, 2014, 10:17:45 PM
I wonder if Ferlin leaving will effect what Ryan does. I think it would if I was his age and in his situation. Losing the #1 tender and now the #1 scorer doesn't bode well for next season. Certainly it would make me think harder.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: BMac on April 11, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
DAMN. Good luck to him, but DAMN.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: WillCMJr on April 12, 2014, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: slh10Ferlin signing with Bruins at entry level contract. Really hoped we would not have anyone leave early. Good luck Brian!!!

Another year, particularly a star turn on a probable national title contender, could've raised his stock considerably.


I agreed with you totally until that sentence. I think they will be fortunate to be a league title contender. I don't think there is anything dramatic coming next year to bring them from 4th best in the division with an anemic offense, to a national title contender. We have no idea what their quality of goal tending is going to be like, chronic offense problems and a defense that is good, but not a shut down level D.

As a whole, I saw Ferlin as a selfish puck-hog who isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is. While he certainly drew attention of the defense, he isn't a team player and I believe the team as a whole is better off without him. I believe Cole has the talent to be a star and is a major team player. If he can learn to take more of the spotlight, Cornell will be much better off.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: ScrewBUHarvardtoo on April 12, 2014, 07:02:30 PM
I hate to see Ferlin go, as he scored at least three game winning goals this year (At Yale, at Qpac, and of course Clarkson). But while that does suck, if our offense was so terrible this year, maybe changing it up will help? He was a puck hog, but he was getting better at passing. Even though he is far from being NHL ready, I don't think he's going to get any better staying here (especially w/ Schafer's system), so I can definitely see this decision. I wish him well, but I think he'll struggle to get minutes, especially on a team as stacked as the Bruins
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Trotsky on April 12, 2014, 07:56:05 PM
I would have resented Ferlin's pug hogging more if he was denying better options.  Also, I think he spent more time on the puck because it was really hard to knock him off it.

He probably needed to move on to develop.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Rita on April 15, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
Gostisbehere signs. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=714886&navid=nhl:topheads)

So does senior Mat Bodie, but he will finish up his spring semester and join the NYR this summer.
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: Swampy on April 15, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: RitaGostisbehere signs. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=714886&navid=nhl:topheads)

So does senior Mat Bodie, but he will finish up his spring semester and join the NYR this summer.

Sort of makes you wonder. If underclassmen routinely left early with NHL contracts, where would Cornell have been in 1967 & 1970? Dryden was a sophomore in 1967 and stayed and graduated in 1969. But the Fergusons and Orr were seniors that year. Lodboa was a senior in 1970; today how likely would it be that he stays all 4 years?
Title: Re: 2014 ECAC Early Departures
Post by: redice on April 15, 2014, 07:51:07 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: RitaGostisbehere signs. (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=714886&navid=nhl:topheads)

So does senior Mat Bodie, but he will finish up his spring semester and join the NYR this summer.

Sort of makes you wonder. If underclassmen routinely left early with NHL contracts, where would Cornell have been in 1967 & 1970? Dryden was a sophomore in 1967 and stayed and graduated in 1969. But the Fergusons and Orr were seniors that year. Lodboa was a senior in 1970; today how likely would it be that he stays all 4 years?

Tough one....    The money is so much bigger today.    But, with the lock that Ned had on these boys minds & hearts, I'm thinking that many would want to stay & play for Ned.     It seems to universal that, until the day he died, they would all do anything for Ned....