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Title: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 02, 2014, 12:08:02 AM
From ECAC Site (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140103_Men_Tournament_Pairings)


FIRST-ROUND (Friday, March 7 - Sunday, March 9 - Best-of-three)
No. 12 Princeton at No. 5 Clarkson
No. 11 Harvard at No. 6 Yale
No. 10 Dartmouth at No. 7 Rensselaer
No. 9 Brown at No. 8 St. Lawrence

QUARTERFINALS (Friday, March 14 - Sunday, March 16 - Best-of-three)
TBD at No. 1 Union
TBD at No. 2 Colgate
TBD at No. 3 Quinnipiac
TBD at No. 4 Cornell

FRIDAY, MARCH 21 (SEMIFINALS)
Semifinal No. 1 - 4 p.m.; Semifinal No. 2 - 7:30 p.m.

SATURDAY, MARCH 22 (CHAMPIONSHIP GAME)
Championship Game - 7:30 p.m.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
There is no Dana (4th).  Only Zuul (3rd).
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: gatefan on March 02, 2014, 05:19:30 AM
Quote from: Jim HylaFrom ECAC Site (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140103_Men_Tournament_Pairings)


FIRST-ROUND (Friday, March 7 - Sunday, March 9 - Best-of-three)
No. 12 Princeton at [b]No. 5 Clarkson[/b] 2-0
No. 11 Harvard at [b]No. 6 Yale[/b] 2-1 (OT Game 3)
[b]No. 10 Dartmouth[/b] at No. 7 Rensselaer 2-1
[b]No. 9 Brown[/b] at No. 8 St. Lawrence 2-1

QUARTERFINALS (Friday, March 14 - Sunday, March 16 - Best-of-three)
Dartmouth at No. 1 Union
Brown at No. 2 Colgate
Yale at No. 3 Quinnipiac
Clarkson at No. 4 Cornell

FRIDAY, MARCH 21 (SEMIFINALS)
Semifinal No. 1 - 4 p.m.; Semifinal No. 2 - 7:30 p.m.

SATURDAY, MARCH 22 (CHAMPIONSHIP GAME)
Championship Game - 7:30 p.m.

My picks so far.

P.S. Any idea on when they decided to eliminate the consolation game? Thank God they did. Being a consolation veteran, there's nothing worse than having to play it. Even if an NCAA bid is on the line, as will probably be the case this year if the top 4 seeds make it to Placid.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2014, 10:14:55 AM
Quote from: gatefanP.S. Any idea on when they decided to eliminate the consolation game? Thank God they did. Being a consolation veteran, there's nothing worse than having to play it. Even if an NCAA bid is on the line, as will probably be the case this year if the top 4 seeds make it to Placid.

1. Risk of injury or DQ.
2. Risk bubble team loses to Cinderella and costs ECAC a bid.
3. Losing coaches and players can lick their wounds (or whatever) at home.
4. Extra rest day for NCAA.

tl;dr: the only consequences of this otherwise inconsequential game were bad consequences.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: billhoward on March 02, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Long ago, Wisconsin sent several dozen busloads of fans to the NCAAs at Boston Garden and wound up playing in the consolation game where their fans numbered in the thousands, beating IIRC Denver whom Cornell had clobbered 7-2. The exuberant Wisconsin fans (that may have been when the Massachusetts drinking age was 18) stomped and cheered Best in the West maybe a thousand times in the third period. So there is a reason for a consolation game. Does anyone recall a similar show of enthusiasm for consolations since
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: Scersk '97 on March 03, 2014, 09:20:20 AM
The Vermont fans seemed pretty enthused in 1996. They even marched to the rink. Of course, they had had to reschedule the start time for the march...
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 03, 2014, 10:17:27 AM
A similar thing happened in 1981.  

Clarkson played Providence in the first semi.  Clarkson had a 3-1 lead with about a minute left and a lot of their fans left.  Providence pulled the goalie twice, scored twice, then won 4-3 in OT.

When a lot of the Clarkson fans showed up Saturday night, their game was almost over.  Tee hee.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: RichH on March 03, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82A similar thing happened in 1981.  

Clarkson played Providence in the first semi.  Clarkson had a 3-1 lead with about a minute left and a lot of their fans left.  Providence pulled the goalie twice, scored twice, then won 4-3 in OT.

When a lot of the Clarkson fans showed up Saturday night, their game was almost over.  Tee hee.

It's beyond the realm of my comprehension why you would pass up an opportunity to hear the horn sound and celebrate a win in a big playoff game.  It's a little more understandable to explain "beat-the-traffic" fans if things aren't going well.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: ugarte on March 04, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82A similar thing happened in 1981.  

Clarkson played Providence in the first semi.  Clarkson had a 3-1 lead with about a minute left and a lot of their fans left.  Providence pulled the goalie twice, scored twice, then won 4-3 in OT.

When a lot of the Clarkson fans showed up Saturday night, their game was almost over.  Tee hee.

It's beyond the realm of my comprehension why you would pass up an opportunity to hear the horn sound and celebrate a win in a big playoff game.  It's a little more understandable to explain "beat-the-traffic" fans if things aren't going well.
Not beyond comprehension: Clarkson fans not buying a newspaper.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - why no consolation game
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 04, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82A similar thing happened in 1981.  

Clarkson played Providence in the first semi.  Clarkson had a 3-1 lead with about a minute left and a lot of their fans left.  Providence pulled the goalie twice, scored twice, then won 4-3 in OT.

When a lot of the Clarkson fans showed up Saturday night, their game was almost over.  Tee hee.

It's beyond the realm of my comprehension why you would pass up an opportunity to hear the horn sound and celebrate a win in a big playoff game.  It's a little more understandable to explain "beat-the-traffic" fans if things aren't going well.
Not beyond comprehension: Clarkson fans not buying a newspaper.

+1
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 05, 2014, 02:35:34 PM
One of the Colgate posters was playing the PWR and determined that winning their QF in 3 would force them to win the auto in order to qualify.  Assuming the ECAC nuked the Consy due to NCAA effects, I wonder if they would go further and restrict the playoffs to the top 8, or return the QF to single game.

IMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 05, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: gatefanP.S. Any idea on when they decided to eliminate the consolation game? Thank God they did. Being a consolation veteran, there's nothing worse than having to play it. Even if an NCAA bid is on the line, as will probably be the case this year if the top 4 seeds make it to Placid.

1. Risk of injury or DQ.
2. Risk bubble team loses to Cinderella and costs ECAC a bid.
3. Losing coaches and players can lick their wounds (or whatever) at home.
4. Extra rest day for NCAA.

tl;dr: the only consequences of this otherwise inconsequential game were bad consequences.

I always thought of the consolation game as a bonus for the fans, particularly when the tournament was in Placid.  You trek up into the mountains for the weekend, it's nice to know your team is going to play twice.  (The 4/5 play-in game was awful for that reason.)  On the other hand, the coaches and players seemed to generally hate playing in them (case in point: Cornell vs Colgate in 2000), so I guess it's just as well they got rid of it.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: KeithK on March 05, 2014, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
How much money can the first round playoff series really make?  Attendance is always pretty abysmal from what I recall. Assuming $10 a ticket it's probably something like $20k/game gate less operating expenses.  On second thought, in the world of small time college athletics that's probably a big chunk of change.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Josh '99 on March 05, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).  In the scheme of problems to be fixed, it's not the biggest in the world.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Chris '03 on March 05, 2014, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).  In the scheme of problems to be fixed, it's not the biggest in the world.

I remember back in the day, there was a women's lax ECAC tournament (cornell won it in 2001?). It was kinda like the NIT and was for teams that didn't make the NCAA tournament.  Why not let the bottom four in the ECAC and HEA playoff for bottom feeder bragging rights? The "title" game could replace the consy and alternate venue. That would create some odd rooting interests from a PWR perspective and the games would be more competitive...  (yes I know that this is entirely unrealistic... but so is moving away from everyone making the playoffs).
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 05, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$)
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).

Supposedly the drive for shoving all 12 in was the added revenue for the 5-8 in hosting a series.  I think there was also a feeling among the traditional bottom feeders that this was the only way they were ever going to see home ice in a playoff, but considering said bottom feeders included Yale and Union...

The traditional big three have all finished in the bottom third recently -- Clarkson and Harvard have finished above 7th a grand total of twice over the last 5 years (yikes!).  I doubt that would be enough to convince the league to cut the first round, but at least we no longer have teams that feel like they would be forever benighted if we did (amazingly, Harvard comes the closest having finished 9, 10, 3, 12 and 11 since 2010).
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: KeithK on March 05, 2014, 07:13:36 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).
I disagree entirely. Just because you show up to play doesn't mean you are entitled to play in the post-season. If that's the attitude we want to have then why have a post-season at all.  We can just give everyone trophies for participation.

I do agree that this is by far not the biggest problem to be fixe.  but it would be so damn easy to fix it!
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: marty on March 05, 2014, 07:45:28 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).
I disagree entirely. Just because you show up to play doesn't mean you are entitled to play in the post-season. If that's the attitude we want to have then why have a post-season regular season at all.  We can just give everyone trophies for participation.

I do agree that this is by far not the biggest problem to be fixe.  but it would be so damn easy to fix it!

FYP?
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: KeithK on March 05, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
Quote from: marty
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).
I disagree entirely. Just because you show up to play doesn't mean you are entitled to play in the post-season. If that's the attitude we want to have then why have a post-season regular season at all.  We can just give everyone trophies for participation.

I do agree that this is by far not the biggest problem to be fixe.  but it would be so damn easy to fix it!

FYP?
OK, that wasn't where my rant was going but it could have been.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Rita on March 06, 2014, 10:06:39 AM
Just a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Josh '99 on March 06, 2014, 11:11:42 AM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: TrotskyIMHO putting the 9-12 outside is long overdue but will never happen ($$$).  Returning to single game QF is a bad idea but won't happen for the same reason.
I think it's silly that everybody makes the playoffs but giving all the student-athletes the opportunity to play in the postseason seems like a reasonable case for doing so (or, at least, a plausible cover story for greed).
I disagree entirely. Just because you show up to play doesn't mean you are entitled to play in the post-season. If that's the attitude we want to have then why have a post-season at all.  We can just give everyone trophies for participation.

I do agree that this is by far not the biggest problem to be fixe.  but it would be so damn easy to fix it!
I guess I wasn't clear; I agree with you, I just think "let's let all the student-athletes participate in the postseason" is a reasonable opposing point of view to have.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 06, 2014, 11:50:10 AM
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Rita on March 06, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.

No woofing intended. The "PSA" is for all hockey fans including our friends from Colgate, RPI, Clarkson etc. who post/lurk on the list  ;-). As discussed before, getting to Lake Placid is hard and if your team makes it, but their are no rooms at the inns, then you may need to resort to cable tv.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Josh '99 on March 06, 2014, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Not woofing.  It'd be woofing to say "you can watch Cornell in the ECAC final on" such-and-such network, which of course you can't necessarily do.  Saying how games are going to be broadcast is just a statement of fact.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Towerroad on March 06, 2014, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Not woofing.  It'd be woofing to say "you can watch Cornell in the ECAC final on" such-and-such network, which of course you can't necessarily do.  Saying how games are going to be broadcast is just a statement of fact.

The hockey Gods are a mercurial lot and easily offended.

Clang - The god of near misses might interpret the mere fact of the posting of the time and place on a partisan website the wrong way.

Refus - The god of blown calls could blind a referee at a critical moment or cause visions of things that do not exist.

Puck - The sprite that controls bounces is a real sensitive fellow.

Overseeing them all is Iceis who can tilt the ice back and forth and hates is when her subjects thing about anything but the next game.

Best to say nothing and perhaps make an offering. We could sacrifice a few Sucks fans. Oh wait that might be harder than it sounds.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Rita on March 06, 2014, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Not woofing.  It'd be woofing to say "you can watch Cornell in the ECAC final on" such-and-such network, which of course you can't necessarily do.  Saying how games are going to be broadcast is just a statement of fact.

The hockey Gods are a mercurial lot and easily offended.

Clang - The god of near misses might interpret the mere fact of the posting of the time and place on a partisan website the wrong way.

Refus - The god of blown calls could blind a referee at a critical moment or cause visions of things that do not exist.

Puck - The sprite that controls bounces is a real sensitive fellow.

Overseeing them all is Iceis who can tilt the ice back and forth and hates is when her subjects thing about anything but the next game.

Best to say nothing and perhaps make an offering. We could sacrifice a few Sucks fans. Oh wait that might be harder than it sounds.

Hopefully The Hockey Gods will cut me some slack and realize that the posting was indeed information in nature. There have been a few years when the ECAC semi-finals and final were available only via an internet stream, so I wanted to make sure people knew that was not the case this year.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Towerroad on March 06, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Not woofing.  It'd be woofing to say "you can watch Cornell in the ECAC final on" such-and-such network, which of course you can't necessarily do.  Saying how games are going to be broadcast is just a statement of fact.

The hockey Gods are a mercurial lot and easily offended.

Clang - The god of near misses might interpret the mere fact of the posting of the time and place on a partisan website the wrong way.

Refus - The god of blown calls could blind a referee at a critical moment or cause visions of things that do not exist.

Puck - The sprite that controls bounces is a real sensitive fellow.

Overseeing them all is Iceis who can tilt the ice back and forth and hates is when her subjects thing about anything but the next game.

Best to say nothing and perhaps make an offering. We could sacrifice a few Sucks fans. Oh wait that might be harder than it sounds.

Hopefully The Hockey Gods will cut me some slack and realize that the posting was indeed information in nature. There have been a few years when the ECAC semi-finals and final were available only via an internet stream, so I wanted to make sure people knew that was not the case this year.

I think, just to be safe, you should take on a quest to atone for any possible offense. Seek out the aforementioned Sucks Fan and when you have found him or her, smite them with the holy mackerel. While you are out questing send back news of any Grails, Jackelopes or Unicorns you find, they are in relative abundance compared to your quarry.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 06, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RitaJust a reminder for those not going to Lake Placid: The ECAC semi-finals and final will be broadcast by Fox College Sports.
Is this woofing?

I guess this is not woofing.

But it could be misconstrued by the HGs.
Not woofing.  It'd be woofing to say "you can watch Cornell in the ECAC final on" such-and-such network, which of course you can't necessarily do.  Saying how games are going to be broadcast is just a statement of fact.

The hockey Gods are a mercurial lot and easily offended.

Clang - The god of near misses might interpret the mere fact of the posting of the time and place on a partisan website the wrong way.

Refus - The god of blown calls could blind a referee at a critical moment or cause visions of things that do not exist.

Puck - The sprite that controls bounces is a real sensitive fellow.

Overseeing them all is Iceis who can tilt the ice back and forth and hates is when her subjects thing about anything but the next game.

Best to say nothing and perhaps make an offering. We could sacrifice a few Sucks fans. Oh wait that might be harder than it sounds.

Hopefully The Hockey Gods will cut me some slack and realize that the posting was indeed information in nature. There have been a few years when the ECAC semi-finals and final were available only via an internet stream, so I wanted to make sure people knew that was not the case this year.

I think, just to be safe, you should take on a quest to atone for any possible offense. Seek out the aforementioned Sucks Fan and when you have found him or her, smite them with the holy mackerel. While you are out questing send back news of any Grails, Jackelopes or Unicorns you find they are in relative abundance compared to your quarry.

Run three laps around Lynah while singing "Give my Regards to Davy."
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: daredevilcu on March 07, 2014, 11:44:03 AM
If Clarkson gets by Princeton this weekend, I would normally hate the fact that we have no other choice but to head to Lynah. This year though, the games have been pretty even, the teams are well-matched, and it's going to be an awesome series (again, if we get there). Hopefully the atmosphere gets back to the early 2000s and before when the place was a complete madhouse. Last few years, the crowds have been pretty unimpressive.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: daredevilcuIf Clarkson gets by Princeton this weekend, I would normally hate the fact that we have no other choice but to head to Lynah. This year though, the games have been pretty even, the teams are well-matched, and it's going to be an awesome series (again, if we get there). Hopefully the atmosphere gets back to the early 2000s and before when the place was a complete madhouse. Last few years, the crowds have been pretty unimpressive.

You're going to destroy Princeton.  They're terrible.

The QF should be close.  I'm glad we have the extra week to rest and heal.  Also hope a fair number of Clarkson fans make it down to Ithaca.  Playoff hockey is amazing, especially if both fan bases are represented.

If any freshmen are reading this board (though I get the feeling the youngest regular poster is about 40), PLEASE encourage your friends to get to the rink early.  Many, many opposing players from years gone by have mentioned that even though they had played at Lynah before, stepping onto the ice in a playoff situation in the face of a rabid crowd actually shook them up a bit.  Not only does the crowd make the experience of the game more fun, it can actually affect the guys on the ice.

Go forth and be deafening.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2014, 09:22:17 PM
(5) Clarkson 2 (12) Princeton 3, ot
(6) Yale 4 (11) Harvard 0
(7) RPI 4 (10) Dartmouth 1
(8) St. Lawrence 3 (9) Brown 2, 2ot
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2014, 09:44:56 PM
Princeton wins in overtime.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: ajh258 on March 07, 2014, 09:46:28 PM
Clarkson just blew it tonight. Princeton was mediocre at best but the Knights are just sloppy. Hmm... here to hoping...
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Swampy on March 07, 2014, 09:46:55 PM
Quote from: TrotskyScores after regulation:

(5) Clarkson 2 (12) Princeton 2, going to overtime.  Free audio here (http://hockey.clarkson.edu/).
(6) Yale 4 (11) Harvard 0
(7) RPI 4 (10) Dartmouth 1
(8) St. Lawrence 2 (9) Brown 2, going to overtime.  Free audio here (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sluhockey#utm_campaign=unknown&utm_source=12134297&utm_medium=socialJoey).

And the Tigers steal one in Potsdam. Lucky for the Knights this is not a 1-game eliminations as in Hockey East.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2014, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: ajh258Clarkson just blew it tonight. Princeton was mediocre at best but the Knights are just sloppy. Hmm... here to hoping...
I don't know what we're hoping.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: daredevilcu on March 07, 2014, 09:52:19 PM
Quote from: TrotskyYou're going to destroy Princeton.  They're terrible.

I reiterate my "if" statements. Dammit. We should have won that game like 6-2 with the chances we had. Post, wide, no-call muggings, and we still have no excuse for losing that game even a little bit.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Chris '03 on March 07, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
Quote from: ajh258Clarkson just blew it tonight. Princeton was mediocre at best but the Knights are just sloppy. Hmm... here to hoping...

Hoping to need to beat the national champs 4 of 5 to advance? I'd rather see a knights team that's had a rough second half.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 07, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
Second ot underway in Canton.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Chris '03 on March 07, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
Quote from: TrotskySecond ot underway in Canton.

SLU wins apparently. Couldn't get audio to work.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: billhoward on March 07, 2014, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: ajh258Clarkson just blew it tonight. Princeton was mediocre at best but the Knights are just sloppy. Hmm... here to hoping...
... Hoping clarkson wears itself out winning Sunday and staggers into Ithaca
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: RichH on March 08, 2014, 12:01:50 AM
Goes to show this league still surprises come playoff time. Princeton was the one team who looked like they had packed it in for the season down the stretch. And this is why Harvard successfully lobbied to return to a best-of-3 round after 1992 happened. I still expect Clarkson to get together to advance, but lightning strikes yadda yadda.

I'd rather see Casey's boys come in next week than Agostino to tell the truth. No offense Clarkson fans, we're just snake bitten.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: scoop85 on March 08, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: RichHI'd rather see Casey's boys come in next week than Agostino to tell the truth. No offense Clarkson fans, we're just snake bitten.

While I don't disagree with that sentiment, as we painfully remember from Bemidji State, hoping for a particular matchup is fraught with peril.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: ajh258 on March 08, 2014, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ajh258Clarkson just blew it tonight. Princeton was mediocre at best but the Knights are just sloppy. Hmm... here to hoping...
... Hoping clarkson wears itself out winning Sunday and staggers into Ithaca
Hoping whatever happens tonight will make our next weekend easier. Duh! ::crazy::
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: ugarte on March 09, 2014, 08:37:30 AM
Yale 2, Harvard 1 (Yale advances)
SLU 3, Brown 2 (SLU advances)
Clarkson 4, Princeton 0
Dartmouth 3, RPI 2
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2014, 02:07:53 PM
Quote from: ugarteYale 2, Harvard 1 (Yale advances)
SLU 3, Brown 2 (SLU advances)
Clarkson 4, Princeton 0
Dartmouth 3, RPI 2
We would prefer to face Clarkson or Yale? We split 1-goal games with Clarkson. We beat Yale twice in 1-goal games, the second time in OT. In recent years we've thought of Yale as a quick team that is more of a threat to Cornell's style of play.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Dafatone on March 09, 2014, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: ugarteYale 2, Harvard 1 (Yale advances)
SLU 3, Brown 2 (SLU advances)
Clarkson 4, Princeton 0
Dartmouth 3, RPI 2
We would prefer to face Clarkson or Yale? We split 1-goal games with Clarkson. We beat Yale twice in 1-goal games, the second time in OT. In recent years we've thought of Yale as a quick team that is more of a threat to Cornell's style of play.

My gut says Clarkson.  My brain points out that Yale's RPI is higher, and that facing them will be better for us in the pairwise than facing Clarkson.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: dbilmes on March 09, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
I'd rather have us play Clarkson. Yale is the defending national champ and will need to beat us just to get back into NCAA tournament. The only reason we beat them a few weeks ago was because Iles had one of his better games. I haven't seen Clarkson this year, but I'd rather have us play them and let Yale and Q duke it out. That way only one of those teams will make it to Lake Placid!
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 09, 2014, 03:23:03 PM
I agree, CLK for me.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: KGR11 on March 09, 2014, 03:39:30 PM
I'd say Clarkson, since it looks like Yale is playing better in the past couple of weeks.  Yale's only losses in the last month have been to Cornell, Union, and Quinnipiac.  Clarkson has lost to the same opponents, as well as to Harvard, Dartmouth, and now Princeton.

Either way, if the regular season games have been any indication, these are going to be some close games.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 07:11:07 PM
Clarkson and RPI each score in the opening 4 minutes.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 07:19:27 PM
Princeton and Dartmouth each tie it up about halfway through the first; 1-1 each.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
Clarkson and RPI both up 2-1 late 1st.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 08:10:31 PM
Late 2nd:

RPI 3 Drt 1
Clk 3 Prn 2
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 08:26:46 PM
End 2:

RPI 4 Drt 2
Clk 3 Prn 2
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Rita on March 09, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
Dartmouth beats RPI 5-4 to advance to the QFs.

Clarkson still hanging onto a 1 goal lead. under 4 min left in the 3rd.

Clarkson does hang on to win its first playoff series in an eternity (at least according to the Clarkson announcers).
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: kingpin248 on March 09, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
The Knights hang on 3-2. Quarterfinal matchups now set:

10 Dartmouth at 1 Union
8 St. Lawrence at 2 Colgate
6 Yale at 3 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson at 4 Cornell
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - quarterfinal pairings
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
Quote from: kingpin248The Knights hang on 3-2. Quarterfinal matchups now set:
10 Dartmouth at 1 Union
8 St. Lawrence at 2 Colgate
6 Yale at 3 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson at 4 Cornell
Cornell gets the Clarkson team that had to play 3 games to get to Ithaca. Yale and Quinnipiac will reduce one of two pesky contenders. But if seeds hold to form, we'd be in for a huge battle with Union Friday night in Lake Placid. Union beat Dartmouth on the road 7-2 in November and 3-2 in December at Messa. But it does reseed for the quarterfinals? (I think so.) If so then Union could wind up facing St Lawrence or Yale.

Coming up, this would be a great return-to-Ithaca road trip weekend: Men's hockey, women's hockey NCAA quarterfinals, lax vs Yale.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - quarterfinal pairings
Post by: ajh258 on March 09, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: kingpin248The Knights hang on 3-2. Quarterfinal matchups now set:
10 Dartmouth at 1 Union
8 St. Lawrence at 2 Colgate
6 Yale at 3 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson at 4 Cornell
Cornell gets the Clarkson team that had to play 3 games to get to Ithaca. Yale and Quinnipiac will reduce one of two pesky contenders. But if seeds hold to form, we'd be in for a huge battle with Union Friday night in Lake Placid.
I think Yale has a descent chance of beating Quinnipiac. The cross town rivalry will give Yale the spark that it needs to play well, and the Bobcats have been experiencing their usual end-of-the-season dry spell.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2014, 09:29:39 PM
Sounds like RPI self-destructed in the third.  They went in leading 4-2 at home and gave up goals at 5, 10 and 17 mins.  Yikes.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs - quarterfinal pairings vs pre-season poll
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
Quarterfinal matchups
10 Dartmouth at 1 Union
8 St. Lawrence at 2 Colgate
6 Yale at 3 Quinnipiac
5 Clarkson at 4 Cornell

ECAC Hockey Media Association's 2013-14 preseason poll
1. Rensselaer (18) - 367
2. Yale (5) - 224
3. Quinnipiac (6) - 292
4. Union (3) - 287
5. Cornell (1) - 238
5. Dartmouth - 238
7. St. Lawrence - 212
8. Brown - 188
9. Colgate - 125
10. Harvard - 108
11. Princeton - 102
12. Clarkson - 83
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: marty on March 09, 2014, 09:43:40 PM
Quote from: TrotskySounds like RPI self-destructed in the third.  They went in leading 4-2 at home and gave up goals at 5, 10 and 17 mins.  Yikes.

RIP was terrible in the third and those jerks McNally and Neiley played well. McNally taunted the crowd after the final buzzer. One silver lining - I didn't have to listen to the RPI horn at the end of the game.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: TimV on March 09, 2014, 10:06:25 PM
"The Morgue" was even more Morgue-like after the buzzer.  And the announced crowd of 1600 looked even smaller than that.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: daredevilcu on March 10, 2014, 11:21:22 AM
Here we go again... this is business as usual the way I remember it! Three of the years during my undergrad had quarterfinal trips to Cornell, (2004-2006). I loathe Lynah Rink. They were great series though... 3 game thriller in 2004 (which we won!), and two double-overtime heartbreakers in 2006. That said, I'll be purchasing my tickets as soon as they go on sale tomorrow!
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 10, 2014, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: daredevilcuHere we go again... this is business as usual the way I remember it! Three of the years during my undergrad had quarterfinal trips to Cornell, (2004-2006). I loathe Lynah Rink. They were great series though... 3 game thriller in 2004 (which we won!), and two double-overtime heartbreakers in 2006. That said, I'll be purchasing my tickets as soon as they go on sale tomorrow!

Great, looking forward to this weekend.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Rita on March 10, 2014, 01:05:55 PM
Since there are a few mathematically inclined people on this list, just a reminder that Friday is Pi Day, so plan to have a slice of pie while  while watching the quarterfinals Friday night.  **]
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Drew on March 14, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
Hello Guys,
Will tonights game be video broadcast on the internet?  Hope everyone has been well.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 14, 2014, 11:47:46 AM
Quote from: DrewHello Guys,
Will tonights game be video broadcast on the internet?  Hope everyone has been well.

I think only on America One. See ECAC announcement. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140403_America_ONE_Sports)

The link to sign on is here. (http://www.americaonesports.com/partner_members.asp?id=407)

As an aside, has anyone ever bought an America One game on their mobile device? I'm interested in knowing whether if I do that, I can then later watch it VOD on my computer. I know that I only have a few hours to watch it after the game is over.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: ScrewBUHarvardtoo on March 14, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
Will Clarkson bring their band for this series? Normally they do, but their women's team has an NCAA quarterfinal game AT Cheel Rink on Saturday, plus I believe it's spring break for Clarkson now too
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: daredevilcu on March 14, 2014, 01:13:57 PM
No band. I tried to get enough alumni together to support the current students and make something happen regardless, but was unsuccessful.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Tom Pasniewski 98 on March 14, 2014, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: DrewHello Guys,
Will tonights game be video broadcast on the internet?  Hope everyone has been well.

I think only on America One. See ECAC announcement. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140403_America_ONE_Sports)

The link to sign on is here. (http://www.americaonesports.com/partner_members.asp?id=407)

As an aside, has anyone ever bought an America One game on their mobile device? I'm interested in knowing whether if I do that, I can then later watch it VOD on my computer. I know that I only have a few hours to watch it after the game is over.

I'm going to need to purchase the games tonight and tomorrow night, but then watch them later at night/early morning.  I thought when I bought the Women's SF game last weekend, that I was able to watch a replay if I wanted to for a set amount of time.  Anybody know if a replay option is available if I purchase the game when the link becomes active, if even for just a few hours after it ends?  This not being able to purchase the games much in advance is a real downer.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 14, 2014, 04:04:35 PM
Quote from: Tom Pasniewski 98
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: DrewHello Guys,
Will tonights game be video broadcast on the internet?  Hope everyone has been well.

I think only on America One. See ECAC announcement. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140403_America_ONE_Sports)

The link to sign on is here. (http://www.americaonesports.com/partner_members.asp?id=407)

As an aside, has anyone ever bought an America One game on their mobile device? I'm interested in knowing whether if I do that, I can then later watch it VOD on my computer. I know that I only have a few hours to watch it after the game is over.

I'm going to need to purchase the games tonight and tomorrow night, but then watch them later at night/early morning.  I thought when I bought the Women's SF game last weekend, that I was able to watch a replay if I wanted to for a set amount of time.  Anybody know if a replay option is available if I purchase the game when the link becomes active, if even for just a few hours after it ends?  This not being able to purchase the games much in advance is a real downer.

Here's the quote from a prior purchase I made.

QuoteWith our VOD service, you may go back and watch previously aired events up to 30 days from the current date. If you made a single purchase, you will have until 9am PT the following day, to view archived events..Most events are available 30 minutes after the broadcast ends.

Now I just need to know if that pertains to purchase by mobile. There's a Colorado Mines baseball game at 4:30. So I'm going to try and see then.

It's too bad the ECAC doesn't have a full tournament package. America One seems to imply one with this quote.

QuoteThis event may be viewed beginning 10 minutes prior to start time.

Once we have tested the audio and video, and there are no issues, the event becomes "Live".

This generally occurs 10-15 minutes before the scheduled start time. At this time, you will be able to purchase a single event pass. Thank you for joining us here at America One Sports.
Additional Purchasing Options

Visit the 2014 Tournament events page to see about purchasing a multiple event pass.


But all you get from the link is to go back to the individual games page.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Dafatone on March 14, 2014, 04:29:26 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Tom Pasniewski 98
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: DrewHello Guys,
Will tonights game be video broadcast on the internet?  Hope everyone has been well.

I think only on America One. See ECAC announcement. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20140403_America_ONE_Sports)

The link to sign on is here. (http://www.americaonesports.com/partner_members.asp?id=407)

As an aside, has anyone ever bought an America One game on their mobile device? I'm interested in knowing whether if I do that, I can then later watch it VOD on my computer. I know that I only have a few hours to watch it after the game is over.

I'm going to need to purchase the games tonight and tomorrow night, but then watch them later at night/early morning.  I thought when I bought the Women's SF game last weekend, that I was able to watch a replay if I wanted to for a set amount of time.  Anybody know if a replay option is available if I purchase the game when the link becomes active, if even for just a few hours after it ends?  This not being able to purchase the games much in advance is a real downer.

Here's the quote from a prior purchase I made.

QuoteWith our VOD service, you may go back and watch previously aired events up to 30 days from the current date. If you made a single purchase, you will have until 9am PT the following day, to view archived events..Most events are available 30 minutes after the broadcast ends.

Now I just need to know if that pertains to purchase by mobile. There's a Colorado Mines baseball game at 4:30. So I'm going to try and see then.

It's too bad the ECAC doesn't have a full tournament package. America One seems to imply one with this quote.

QuoteThis event may be viewed beginning 10 minutes prior to start time.

Once we have tested the audio and video, and there are no issues, the event becomes "Live".

This generally occurs 10-15 minutes before the scheduled start time. At this time, you will be able to purchase a single event pass. Thank you for joining us here at America One Sports.
Additional Purchasing Options

Visit the 2014 Tournament events page to see about purchasing a multiple event pass.


But all you get from the link is to go back to the individual games page.

Well, you do see about purchasing a multiple event pass.

You see that you can't.  

Unless it turn out you can, in which case this snark looks kinda silly.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs_Friday 3/14
Post by: Trotsky on March 14, 2014, 06:27:45 PM
ILDN has the hate radio audio; may as well just stick with that.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Tom Pasniewski 98 on March 14, 2014, 06:39:27 PM
Just waiting for the purchase link to become active.  I'll just hope that the game is archived.  Got to do an airport run for the next couple of hours so I should be able to get to the recording if it becomes active by 10 p.m. local here tonight or certainly tomorrow morning before it expires.  Thanks Jim.
Title: Re: ECAC Playoffs
Post by: Trotsky on March 15, 2014, 09:25:00 PM
The other three home seeds sweep, so all eyes on Ithaca tomorrow.