Something very nasty has happened to the old Recruits thread (don't go there, it immediately crashes you out of eLynah), so what the hey, why not a new one?
Looking at BRPH's still-maintained recruit stat table (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/), a few things jump out:
Strenshein: 19 GP, 19-5-24
Well, we did say we wanted guys who weren't shy about taking the shot.
Yates: 27 GP, 26-17-43
Not sure if he's facing Little Sisters of the Poor but that's gaudy.
Stoick: 32 GP, 64 PIMs.
Looks like Gavin has, ahem, retooled his game in preparation for the sequel. He's still just 19.
Hackett: 9 GP.
Teammate of Stoick with Green Bay and finally back from the injury that took him out for 2 months.
Quote from: TrotskySomething very nasty has happened to the old Recruits thread (don't go there, it immediately crashes you out of eLynah), so what the hey, why not a new one?
Looking at BRPH's still-maintained recruit stat table (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/), a few things jump out:
The one that jumps out at me is Dwyer Tschantz: Playing in the USHL, #2 on his teams in goals scored, and 6'5".
Yates will be interesting -- he's playing prep hockey, the transition to a higher level of competition can be uneven (see Alex Rauter).
Quote from: pfibigerQuote from: TrotskySomething very nasty has happened to the old Recruits thread (don't go there, it immediately crashes you out of eLynah), so what the hey, why not a new one?
Looking at BRPH's still-maintained recruit stat table (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/), a few things jump out:
The one that jumps out at me is Dwyer Tschantz: Playing in the USHL, #2 on his teams in goals scored, and 6'5".
Yates will be interesting -- he's playing prep hockey, the transition to a higher level of competition can be uneven (see Alex Rauter).
If you want to look up further information on Yates, I highly encourage you to include the term "hockey" in your Google search; there's another Trevor Yates who makes movies you wouldn't want coming up on your work computer.
(Or, for all I know, maybe it's the same Trevor Yates.)
Quote from: Josh '99(Or, for all I know, maybe it's the same Trevor Yates.)
It never hurts to have something to put on your application under "extracurricular activities."
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Josh '99(Or, for all I know, maybe it's the same Trevor Yates.)
It never hurts to have something to put on your application under "extracurricular activities."
Or to have something to go pro in other than sports.
Met two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.
Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I also noticed the Strensheins as we were entering Lynah. LGR!
Chad Otterman, a big, 1995-born forward from Morristown, New Jersey and the Delbarton School, has committed to Cornell.
https://twitter.com/USHRhockey/status/434722159814922240
https://twitter.com/OTBPuckWatch/status/434834908964323328
Chad Otterman is projected as a mid-round draft pick by NHL Central Scouting. There are now 4 Cornell recruits listed in the midterm rankings.
Quote from: CASChad Otterman is projected as a mid-round draft pick by NHL Central Scouting. There are now 4 Cornell recruits listed in the midterm rankings.
This is great news, especially since we will not be too badly damaged by this year's graduations (assuming Gillam / Hackett can replace Iles). It helps to flatten out the "key class / support class" two-piston cycle that has been building lately as well.
We have way (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2014/2014_Future_Players.html) too many forwards slated to enter this Fall. Maybe some of them are insurance against junior defections or underclass washouts.
If our lacrosse program wasn't one of the six, or even if it was, maybe he could play after hockey season. Harry Orr did it.
Quote from: TimVIf our lacrosse program wasn't one of the six, or even if it was, maybe he could play after hockey season. Harry Orr did it.
At scholarship schools, if an athlete plays two sports does that tally against both scholarship limits or just one?
(Hopefully it's both or you could really abuse the system by, say, loading up on "gymnasts" who also just happen to play nose tackle (http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/310/806/310806275_640.jpg).)
Matt Moulson could have started for our lax team, as could Joe Neuwendyk in his day.
Quote from: TrotskyAt scholarship schools, if an athlete plays two sports does that tally against both scholarship limits or just one?
I'm pretty sure it's just one. Some sports have limited scholarships- lacrosse has only 12. Those teams mostly award fractional scholarships, so a player could get 1/2 a lacrosse scholarship and 1/2 a gymnastics scholarship for a full ride. It doesn't happen often.
Dwyer Tschantz is on fire playing in the USHL, 4 goals in his last 3 games.
Quote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyAt scholarship schools, if an athlete plays two sports does that tally against both scholarship limits or just one?
I'm pretty sure it's just one. Some sports have limited scholarships- lacrosse has only 12. Those teams mostly award fractional scholarships, so a player could get 1/2 a lacrosse scholarship and 1/2 a gymnastics scholarship for a full ride. It doesn't happen often.
Fractions makes sense, although you could still abuse it.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: CASChad Otterman is projected as a mid-round draft pick by NHL Central Scouting. There are now 4 Cornell recruits listed in the midterm rankings.
This is great news, especially since we will not be too badly damaged by this year's graduations (assuming Gillam / Hackett can replace Iles). It helps to flatten out the "key class / support class" two-piston cycle that has been building lately as well.
We have way (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/2014/2014_Future_Players.html) too many forwards slated to enter this Fall. Maybe some of them are insurance against junior defections or underclass washouts.
Yes, but BRPH (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/) lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.
Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Quote from: SwampyAmong those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
Booth, Starrett and Tschantz being later helps; it would give us 4 entering forwards (Angello, Rauter, Vanderlaan, Yates) to replace the 3 graduating (Craig, Mowrey, de Swardt), which is reasonable.
BTW, Elite Prospects still has Cimetta heading for Cornell. He's off BRPH. Is that definite?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: SwampyAmong those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
Booth, Starrett and Tschantz being later helps; it would give us 4 entering forwards (Angello, Rauter, Vanderlaan, Yates) to replace the 3 graduating (Craig, Mowrey, de Swardt), which is reasonable.
BTW, Elite Prospects still has Cimetta heading for Cornell. He's off BRPH. Is that definite?
A more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:
http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors
And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
Quote from: pfibigerA more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:
http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors
And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
He was expected to be the Sarnia (GOHL) captain this year, and he was a Sarnia (OHL) draft pick (that's where I assumed he had passed us up for).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: pfibigerA more interesting question is: Where did Matt Cimetta go? This summer he was training with the Abbots:
http://www.theobserver.ca/2013/07/18/abbotts-run-sarnia--program-after-starting-as-camp-counsellors
And then he disappeared. He is on no findable hockey roster for this year, and there's no article or discussion of injury. Maybe he gave up hockey?
He was expected to be the Sarnia (GOHL) captain this year, and he was a Sarnia (OHL) draft pick (that's where I assumed he had passed us up for).
In looks like Sarnia has his rights but I found a Facebook page that I think is him (has references to Sarnia) and he appears to be a freshman at the University of Waterloo.
https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048
The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.
Quote from: ugarteIn looks like Sarnia has his rights but I found a Facebook page that I think is him (has references to Sarnia) and he appears to be a freshman at the University of Waterloo.
That is indeed him.
Quote from: scoop85https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048
The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.
Yeah. With recruiting targeting younger kids, which puts the Ivies at a disadvantage, it would be nice if Fiegl matured and decided Cornell was more to his liking than DU. Anyone know the story here?
Jared Fiegl
1/23/96
6' 1" 198
Parker, CO
USNDT U18
According to Elite Prospects and hockeydb he has played just 8 games this year.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: scoop85https://twitter.com/ushrhockey/status/435966410888450048
The staff certainly seems to be bringing in some outstanding talent.
Yeah. With recruiting targeting younger kids, which puts the Ivies at a disadvantage, it would be nice if Fiegl matured and decided Cornell was more to his liking than DU. Anyone know the story here?
The coach who recruited him was fired, which probably explains the defection more than anything else.
Quote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.
Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell. He looks like a stud.
Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.
Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell. He looks like a stud.
Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.
Hunter Racine has committed to Colgate.
Quote from: cbuckserQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyMet two sets of parents on Friday at the Onion game. I hope they are back tonight.
Racine from Ottawa has great parents that sat behind us. His uncle played goalie for Northeadtern, winning all American honours and the beanpot.
I hope Hunter Racine is considering Cornell. He looks like a stud.
Interestingly, his uncle (Bruce) runs a goaltender academy attended by one Ryan Coon.
Hunter Racine has committed to Colgate.
Stakes in the Union game were higher than we thought.
Quote from: SwampyYes, but BRPH (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/) lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.
Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Putting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way. Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey. I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.
Quote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: SwampyYes, but BRPH (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/) lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.
Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Putting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way. Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey. I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.
If you're a star for Delbarton lacrosse, you're a stud and probably headed D1. A couple Delbarton hockey alumni have done well in college. Not every player will be a star. Delbarton is the school for Chris Christie's kids.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: SwampyYes, but BRPH (http://bigredpuckhead.blogspot.com/) lists him as 2015. Our very strong current class of juniors will have graduated by the time Chad arrives on the hill.
Among those slated to enter next fall, Yates (Deefield/NV) is averaging 1.6 ppg; the next highest, Vanderlaan (AJHL), is averaging 0.59 ppg.
Among those slated to enter in 2015 or 2016, Ott (USPHL) is averaging 0.81 ppg; Otterman (Delbarton), 1.6; Sternschein (LI Gulls), 1.26; Starrett (USPHL), 0.96; and Tschantz (USHL), 0.7.
As we've seen this year with Matt Buckles, even extraordinary scorers take some time to adjust to the college game. So while the pipeline looks very good, and next year's team should be a serious contender for league and national honors, (and with no disrespect for the incoming class) I'm afraid the pipeline is not going to add a tremendous amount of firepower to the 2014-2015 team. OTOH, defensemen Bliss and Wedman may be able to help out significantly.
Putting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way. Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey. I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.
If you're a star for Delbarton lacrosse, you're a stud and probably headed D1. A couple Delbarton hockey alumni have done well in college. Not every player will be a star. Delbarton is the school for Chris Christie's kids.
Do they study traffic?
Quote from: RatushnyFanPutting stats from Delbarton and the AYHL U16 LI Gulls next to junior stats is apples and oranges in a big way. Delbarton is a nice school with a nice hockey program (my son goes to Don Bosco, a league competitor that just beat Delbarton) but it doesn't compare to junior hockey. I would guess that Otterman will need some seasoning at a junior program despite his draft ranking, he played for the Jersey Hitmen a little bit last year but he was young and wasn't really a factor.
Kenny Agostino went to Delbarton. His senior year he scored 50 goals and had 33 assists -- looks like Otterman is at 24 and 15 (fwiw).
Not sure if the has been mentioned elsewhere:
Link to USHL Release (http://www.ushl.com/news.php?action=detail&news_id=2333)
QuoteIndiana Ice goaltender Hayden Stewart has committed to play college hockey at Cornell University following his USHL career.
The 19-year-old has been stellar for the Ice since being acquired in January, posting a perfect 6-0-0 record which included back-to-back shutouts against the Youngstown Phantoms on February 8th and 9th. He has not allowed more than one goal in any of his six starts with the Ice, posting a 0.67 GAA and .971 SV% over that span. Stewart began the season with the Dubuque Fighting Saints and compiled a 6-6-1 record over 13 appearances with the club. His overall 2.30 goals-against-average in 19 games this season is the third best mark among USHL goaltenders.
https://twitter.com/cornellnews/statuses/437338658366947328
Interesting. In addition to Gillam and Coon we'll now have Hackett (6/1/96) and Stewart (9/22/94). With four years in the USHL and turning 20 in September, maybe this means Stewart will come in this fall and Hackett will delay.
Quote from: ithacatKenny Agostino went to Delbarton. His senior year he scored 50 goals and had 33 assists -- looks like Otterman is at 24 and 15 (fwiw).
Exactly, very different numbers. Agostino is the exception rather than the rule. Kenny also played with the New Jersey Colonials travel club team from Mite C through U18, I would argue that the Colonials were responsible for the bulk of his development, not Delbarton. Club hockey is far more important than high school hockey in New Jersey.
Quote from: TrotskyInteresting. In addition to Gillam and Coon we'll now have Hackett (6/1/96) and Stewart (9/22/94). With four years in the USHL and turning 20 in September, maybe this means Stewart will come in this fall and Hackett will delay.
This is my guess too. Hackett seems to have struggled with injury and the transition to the USHL, so a year as the clear-cut #1 in the USHL probably will be a good thing for his development.
Are we losing our BCHL pipeline to Union? Ken Schott reports that Union is getting another recruit from there. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/feb/24/union-hockey-gets-commitment-from-taylor-of-nanaim/)
Certainly we're seeing a significant shift in our recruiting patterns -- many more guys coming from USHL and the other US junior leagues. As of now it appears we have no one coming from the BCHL. This could be related to a number of factors, but I would assume the change in assistant coaches over the last 5 years is a significant factor.
Quote from: scoop85Certainly we're seeing a significant shift in our recruiting patterns -- many more guys coming from USHL and the other US junior leagues. As of now it appears we have no one coming from the BCHL. This could be related to a number of factors, but I would assume the change in assistant coaches over the last 5 years is a significant factor.
IMHO it is a wise decision. Year by year the USHL has widened the gap between them and all other places from which D-I schools can recruit. Certainly players from many other leagues can jump into D-I hockey, but the USHL is by far the best league now. The BCHL probably is second best.
I don't follow Cornell recruits closely, but RPI recruits who switch from another league to the USHL have invariably had a decrease in production in the USHL which shows to me that the USHL provides stronger competition.
Personal networks seem to be part of it. We had the Golden Horseshoe under Bertrand and Reycroft; with McCutcheon we had those Alberta links; early Schafer had the BCHL in general and Nanaimo in particular; now we have the USHL and the Texas connection (Stewart played for Corpus Christie). It could also be a matter of player generations running dry: you recruit an 83 who then gets a pair of 84 teammates interested in you, who in turn attract an 85... eventually a couple years pass where there are no players from that source who are good prospects, the player relationship chains break, and when another prospect from the source crops up you have no insider edge.
Quote from: ursusminorRPI recruits who switch from another league to the USHL have invariably had a decrease in production in the USHL which shows to me that the USHL provides stronger competition.
In addition to being the league with the most talent, the USHL is a defense-oriented league. It prepares players extraordinarily well for Division I hockey.
Sam Sternschein is heating up. 18 points in his last seven games for the U16 Long Island Gulls, including a goal (empty netter) and an assist in the AYHL playoff championship game.
Sam's stats (http://www.atlantichockey.org/player_information.php?playerid=106312&seasonid=20)
Quote from: RatushnyFanSam Sternschein is heating up. 18 points in his last seven games for the U16 Long Island Gulls, including a goal (empty netter) and an assist in the AYHL playoff championship game.
Sam's stats (http://www.atlantichockey.org/player_information.php?playerid=106312&seasonid=20)
Excellent! We play so many games with late one-goal leads that it would be great to have a strong empty-net guy.::nut::
Quote from: RatushnyFanSam Sternschein is heating up. 18 points in his last seven games for the U16 Long Island Gulls, including a goal (empty netter) and an assist in the AYHL playoff championship game.
Sam's stats (http://www.atlantichockey.org/player_information.php?playerid=106312&seasonid=20)
Every time I see his name, I really wish it were spelled "Stymchyshyn."
You can call him Darren if that makes you feel better. He's an interesting story.......from the moribund U Illinois-Chicago program which was shut down to Lynah rink, how about them apples? I was at Michigan getting my MBA in '95-'96, that UIC team was awful.
Quote from: RobbEvery time I see his name, I really wish it were spelled "Stymchyshyn."
I always think:
"How's it feel to be an Independent, Schoenstein?"
"How's it feel to be an asshole, Niedermeyer?"
"What did he say?"
Comparing Heisenberg's Fall '13 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdGt1bWNTcUNqRm1SaUNZbG5jMi1PS2c&gid=1) and Fall '14 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdHkwbDlIemR5c2dGSXZveWF3OWNJZVE#gid=1) lists:
On '13, now on team: Anderson, Weidner, Freschi, Coon, Lewis, Kubiak, Gillam, Buckles, P McCarron, Sade
On '13 and repeated on '14: Vanderlaan, Angello, Ott, Rauter, Bliss
On '13 but not on team or '14: Booth, Hackett, Cimetta
On '14: Fiegl, Otterman, Tschantz, Wedman, Strenshein, Starrett, Yates, Hoffman
Not yet on '14: Stewart
Are all the players in red gone? Cimetta as discussed above disappeared. Booth and Hackett are off BRPH.
Hard to believe that Rauter will be there next year. Looks like he's no longer on a USHL roster, he's moved on to the NAHL. Rauter stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160615)
Quote from: TrotskyComparing Heisenberg's Fall '13 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdGt1bWNTcUNqRm1SaUNZbG5jMi1PS2c&gid=1) and Fall '14 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdHkwbDlIemR5c2dGSXZveWF3OWNJZVE#gid=1) lists:
On '13, now on team: Anderson, Weidner, Freschi, Coon, Lewis, Kubiak, Gillam, Buckles, P McCarron, Sade
On '13 and repeated on '14: Vanderlaan, Angello, Ott, Rauter, Bliss
On '13 but not on team or '14: Booth, Hackett, Cimetta
On '14: Fiegl, Otterman, Tschantz, Wedman, Strenshein, Starrett, Yates, Hoffman
Not yet on '14: Stewart
Are all the players in red gone? Cimetta as discussed above disappeared. Booth and Hackett are off BRPH.
Needs another edit. Stren is the line I throw off the stern when fishing.
Quote from: RatushnyFanHard to believe that Rauter will be there next year. Looks like he's no longer on a USHL roster, he's moved on to the NAHL. Rauter stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160615)
Is the NAHL a better league than the USHL? (i.e., are you saying he's developed beyond the NCAA route, or that he's regressed?)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RatushnyFanHard to believe that Rauter will be there next year. Looks like he's no longer on a USHL roster, he's moved on to the NAHL. Rauter stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160615)
Is the NAHL a better league than the USHL? (i.e., are you saying he's developed beyond the NCAA route, or that he's regressed?)
The USHL is significantly better. The NAHL has many players who could not make the USHL, e.g. RPI recruit Charlie Manley.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RatushnyFanHard to believe that Rauter will be there next year. Looks like he's no longer on a USHL roster, he's moved on to the NAHL. Rauter stats (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160615)
Is the NAHL a better league than the USHL? (i.e., are you saying he's developed beyond the NCAA route, or that he's regressed?)
The USHL is significantly better. The NAHL has many players who could not make the USHL, e.g. RPI recruit Charlie Manley.
Thx.
Interesting that Rauter's star has fallen. IIRC when he was announced there were people saying he could be a real stud.
I believe Rauter's still coming. I saw an interview with him after he got to Wenatchee and he mentioned getting recruited to play at Cornell as being his biggest thrill.
I was one who thought he would be a real star...........saw him play as a midget, he was a sniper. For whatever reason, it didn't translate at the next level, probably a speed or strength issue. Maybe he'll come around, and scoop I'm sure he still wants to come (who wouldn't) but I think it's at least a question mark now as to whether he'll make the team. I hope that he does, he seems like a great kid.
Quote from: RatushnyFanI was one who thought he would be a real star...........saw him play as a midget, he was a sniper. For whatever reason, it didn't translate at the next level, probably a speed or strength issue. Maybe he'll come around, and scoop I'm sure he still wants to come (who wouldn't) but I think it's at least a question mark now as to whether he'll make the team. I hope that he does, he seems like a great kid.
Well, it's not like we're drowning in scorers.
Sounds a little like Matt Connors. Sometimes guys can't make the jump, sometimes an injury comes along at exactly the wrong time in a kid's development. At least it isn't a case of attitude or academics or ESL, each of which can be indicative of future problems.
I hope he makes it and thrives (of course!)
Final list is out for the NHL Central Scouting. Below are the CU recruits I noticed:
#79 Beau Starrett
#114 Anthony Angello
#142 Jared Fiegl
Quote from: MattSFinal list is out for the NHL Central Scouting. Below are the CU recruits I noticed:
#79 Beau Starrett
#114 Anthony Angello
#142 Jared Fiegl
Seems like the rule of thumb is the final draft position maps to about 2 x the final CS rank. That would put Starrett in the 6th round and Angello on the bubble for the 7th.
Follow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Quote from: Jim HylaFollow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Link's not opening for me. Is that Pete Shier's son?
Yes.
Boo.
We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way. :-(
Pete Shier is a loyal Cornell alum. It may be there's something special about Union ... or for his son. It may be the parents' money, but it's the student's life.
Quote from: TrotskyBoo.
We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way. :-(
I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyBoo.
We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way. :-(
I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.
When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine. When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell. That's bad.
Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc. But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?
Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs? 4? That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.
I'm just jealous.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyBoo.
We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way. :-(
I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.
When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine. When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell. That's bad.
Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc. But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?
Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs? 4? That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.
I'm just jealous.
For what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18. Call it rebellion, branching out, establishing my own identity, or whatever. I'd have been annoyed.
Similarly, I'm shocked when a player (or anyone, really) from Ithaca goes to Cornell.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyBoo.
We really shouldn't let great prospects who are legacies get way. :-(
I think you're already on record re: this commitment: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,190403,190662#msg-190662
:-)
Neither of those were top prospects.
When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine. When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell. That's bad.
Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc. But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?
Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs? 4? That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.
I'm just jealous.
For what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18. Call it rebellion, branching out, establishing my own identity, or whatever. I'd have been annoyed.
Similarly, I'm shocked when a player (or anyone, really) from Ithaca goes to Cornell.
Everyone's different I guess. As much as I love NYC I didn't want to go to school there (especially after my dad suggested going to Columbia and living at home). But then I have two cousins who went to schools about an hour from home and are seemingly home every weekend.
Quote from: DafatoneFor what it's worth, I'd have hated to go to my dad's school when I was 18.
Me too, but I also wasn't looking to build an NHL career. And I may be wrong, but my impression is kids who are reflexively rebellious in that way (like us) tend not to follow their parent's sport. They get degrees in playwriting or some such... ;)
Quote from: TrotskyNeither of those were top prospects.
When a legacy goes somewhere else because we didn't offer, that's fine. When we offer but he still goes somewhere else, that means we lost the competition for a player who started out with every reason to come to Cornell. That's bad.
Obviously there could be a million reasons to not choose your star father's school -- establish your own identity, etc. But OTOH, have we ever had a guy whose father was a star on another team?
Harvard has had, what, 3 generations of Cavanaughs? 4? That is a good story, aesthetically pleasing, and it would be great if we would have the same.
I'm just jealous.
Different permutations of Father/Son recruiting and misses. This list is by no means exhaustive, it was just off the top of my head plus some cursory looking:
CU hockey players whose fathers played elsewhere:
Mitch Carefoot (Denver)
Blake Gallagher (SLU)
College hockey players whose fathers played at Cornell:
Mark Jankowski (Providence)
Will Weber (Miami)
Paul Geiger (Clarkson)
Mike Ambrosia (Princeton)
Mark Mitera (Michigan)
Dan Peace (RPI)
Matt Brush (Princeton)
Older brother played at CU, player went elsewhere:
Nik Pokulok (Clarkson)
Older brother played elsewhere, player went to CU:
Evan Barlow (Harvard)
Mitch Gillam (Dartmouth)
Sean Whitney (BU)
Bob Kinasewich (Harvard)
Jeff Kubiak (Bentley)
Quote from: pfibigerOlder brother played elsewhere, player went to CU:
Evan Barlow (Harvard)
Mitch Gillam (Dartmouth)
Sean Whitney (BU)
a couple of others I can quickly think of:
Bob Kinasewich '67 (Harvard)
Jeff Kubiak '17 (Bentley)
hard to believe they're a half century apart.
I believe that Craig Brush '72 son played elsewhere -- maybe Princeton? And Jim Gibson's son was a star lax player at Yale.
Dave Peace's son Dan played at RPI. I doubt that Cornell was interested.
Quote from: ursusminorDave Peace's son Dan played at RPI. I doubt that Cornell was interested.
That's what Dave told me. On the other hand his daughter did her undergrad work at Cornell and was headed to the University of Michigan for her law degree. As little as I became acquainted with the Peace children, I felt fortunate to make their acquaintance.
Quote from: dag14I believe that Craig Brush '72 son played elsewhere -- maybe Princeton? And Jim Gibson's son was a star lax player at Yale.
There's a Matt Brush who played for Princeton and subsequently for the Florida Everblades.
Quote from: pfibigerOlder brother played at CU, player went elsewhere:
Nik Pokulok (Clarkson)
Tom Hilbrich @ Quinnipiac
also prob. not in the same breath, but the young McCarron who bolted D1 all together
You could add Kevin Shier to the list.
Ryan Johnston (Colgate), Jacob/Rebecca/Sarah played at Cornell.
Jeff Skinner (OHL), sister Andrea played at Cornell.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: dag14I believe that Craig Brush '72 son played elsewhere -- maybe Princeton? And Jim Gibson's son was a star lax player at Yale.
There's a Matt Brush who played for Princeton and subsequently for the Florida Everblades.
Which reminds me -- I keep meaning to ask, is this for real? I have yet to find a confirmation.
http://www.disenofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/publicidad-milky-way-02.jpg
(Just to be clear, I'm not talking about the outdated scoring system)
Well it doesn't exactly fit here as a 2014 recruit, but Chris Heisenberg is now listing Joey Kubachka a right wing for the Philadelphia Jr. Flyers as a Cornell 2017 recruit. Heisenberg lists him as 6'2", 175 lb, and born 7/4/98.
Quote from: ursusminorWell it doesn't exactly fit here as a 2014 recruit, but Chris Heisenberg is now listing Joey Kubachka a right wing for the Philadelphia Jr. Flyers as a Cornell 2017 recruit. Heisenberg lists him as 6'2", 175 lb, and born 7/4/98.
Easiest nickname ever (http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34300000/Chewbacca-chewbacca-34355583-624-890.jpg).
All (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html) of the players listed by Heisenberg as entering in Fall '15 or later are American born.
Michael O'Leary (http://theqnews.net/2014/05/18/prospect-oleary-commits-to-cornell/) probably for 2016
Quote from: ursusminorMichael O'Leary (http://theqnews.net/2014/05/18/prospect-oleary-commits-to-cornell/) probably for 2016
"The six-foot-one left-winger was projected by many to go high in the upcoming QMJHL draft being held in Shebrooke, Que. on May 31. HockeyProspect.com had the Halifax native ranked 12th overall."
Hrm.
Well, let's hope so, but we've seen this movie before.
Many highly regarded players committed to attend Cornell in the next 2-3 years. Congrats to the coaching staff. Drop the puck!
Quote from: CASMany highly regarded players committed to attend Cornell in the next 2-3 years. Congrats to the coaching staff. Drop the puck!
Like Trotsky hinted at, we've had "highly regarded" players lined up in the pipelines many times before. There's a lot that can happen to 16-17 year olds. Some just can't adjust to the college level, either skill-wise or ability to handle the physicality. Then there are those who were never seen as blue-chippers and then turn into Matt Moulson. Some have talent, but don't do the work necessary, and others fit in so well that they play above their head for four years.
Recruit threads are games in themselves. I read these, but reserve judgement until I can see what they can do at Lynah.
BTW, has anybody been following the whole "gentleman's agreement" stuff happening now?
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/03_coaches_gentlemans_agreement.php
The end of that piece has a comment on Ivy practices.
Quote from: RichHBTW, has anybody been following the whole "gentleman's agreement" stuff happening now?
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/03_coaches_gentlemans_agreement.php
The end of that piece has a comment on Ivy practices.
That's, actually, a really, interesting (but) oddly written, article. Certainly, however (an) unusual (sort of) style.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: RichHBTW, has anybody been following the whole "gentleman's agreement" stuff happening now?
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/03_coaches_gentlemans_agreement.php
The end of that piece has a comment on Ivy practices.
That's, actually, a really, interesting (but) oddly written, article. Certainly, however (an) unusual (sort of) style.
My guess is that the style indicates where word salad was paraphrased to convert it back to English, since the parentheticals appear within quotes.
For example:
One assistant coach said: "(Minnesota doesn't) seem to be into stealing a bunch of kids. was probably "they don't seem..." but rather than write to the quote, the authors clarified that Minnesota was who the speaker was referencing.
When should we expect Cornell to announce the hockey recruits entering this fall?
Quote from: CASWhen should we expect Cornell to announce the hockey recruits entering this fall?
It was done on June 3rd last year so, soon I would guess.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: CASMany highly regarded players committed to attend Cornell in the next 2-3 years. Congrats to the coaching staff. Drop the puck!
Like Trotsky hinted at, we've had "highly regarded" players lined up in the pipelines many times before. There's a lot that can happen to 16-17 year olds. Some just can't adjust to the college level, either skill-wise or ability to handle the physicality. Then there are those who were never seen as blue-chippers and then turn into Matt Moulson. Some have talent, but don't do the work necessary, and others fit in so well that they play above their head for four years.
Recruit threads are games in themselves. I read these, but reserve judgement until I can see what they can do at Lynah.
BTW, has anybody been following the whole "gentleman's agreement" stuff happening now?
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/05/03_coaches_gentlemans_agreement.php
The end of that piece has a comment on Ivy practices.
These "Gentlemans Agreements" are really a form of price fixing that operates to the benefit of the institution and the detriment of the student athlete. It effectively prevents a student from getting a better deal at an alternative institution. (Of course the NC$$ is all for this).
The last time the Ivy's did this they got threatened price fixing charge:
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/23/us/ivy-universities-deny-price-fixing-but-agree-to-avoid-it-in-the-future.html
Big Red Puckhead has posted a nice article on recruit Dwyer Tschantz, who is headed to Ithaca this fall. Wish I knew how to provide a link...
Quote from: CASBig Red Puckhead has posted a nice article on recruit Dwyer Tschantz, who is headed to Ithaca this fall. Wish I knew how to provide a link...
Here's the article (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/2014/05/29/delaware-native-tschantz-hits-hockey-stride/9752755/)
Mike O'Leary drafted high in QMJHL draft:
https://twitter.com/OTBPuckWatch/statuses/472764010283433984
Certainly will be lot of pressure on him to go the Major Junior route. Hopefully he'll decide the college option is the best for him.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: CASBig Red Puckhead has posted a nice article on recruit Dwyer Tschantz, who is headed to Ithaca this fall. Wish I knew how to provide a link...
Here's the article (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/2014/05/29/delaware-native-tschantz-hits-hockey-stride/9752755/)
From the linked delawareonline article on Dwyer Tschantz,
QuoteTschantz plans to room with Ice teammate Hayden Stewart, a goalie.
Other than ajh258's initial post in February, there hasn't been much discussion here on Stewart. Here are a couple of articles.
http://ushl.com/news.php?action=detail&news_id=2333
http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/370703?referrer_id=836196
Quote from: jkahnTschantz plans to room with Ice teammate Hayden Stewart, a goalie.
Other than ajh258's initial post in February, there hasn't been much discussion here on Stewart. Here are a couple of articles.
http://ushl.com/news.php?action=detail&news_id=2333
http://www.usahockey.com/news_article/show/370703?referrer_id=836196
Per the stats page (http://pointstreak.com/prostats/teamplayerstats.html?teamid=8604&seasonid=11221), Stewart played in 14 of their 27 games and put up a 1.29 GAA and .945 %. ::banana::
On the other hand, their other goalie (headed to MSU-Mankato) played in 42 games, including the Anderson Cup final (which they won). ::yark::
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: CASBig Red Puckhead has posted a nice article on recruit Dwyer Tschantz, who is headed to Ithaca this fall. Wish I knew how to provide a link...
Here's the article (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/2014/05/29/delaware-native-tschantz-hits-hockey-stride/9752755/)
Apparently the author didn't get the memo that all sportswriting is supposed to be fluff bullshit, unclever puns. And. Short. Dramatic.
One sentence paragraphs.
It's actually well-written and factual. That guy's got no future in the biz.
Starrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Quote from: TrotskyStarrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Does that ever describe a classic Cornell forward (both for better and worse)
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyStarrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Does that ever describe a classic Cornell forward (both for better and worse)
"Recent Cornell alum" John McCarron??
Quote from: TrotskyStarrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Starrett drafted in the 3rd round by Chicago, no. 88 overall.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyStarrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Does that ever describe a classic Cornell forward (both for better and worse)
Starrett drafted by Chicago in 3rd round, 88th overall.
Anthony Angello drafted in the 5th round by Pittsburgh, 145th overall.
Fiegl and Tschantz both go in the 7th round, Fiegl to Arizona and Tschantz to St. Louis
Quote from: jkahnQuote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyStarrett draft preview (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/6/25/5842162/2014-nhl-draft-prosect-cornell-recruit-beau-starrett-south-shore-kings-usphl)
Does that ever describe a classic Cornell forward (both for better and worse)
Starrett drafted by Chicago in 3rd round, 88th overall.
And ranked 8th best name in CBSSport's hard hitting draft coverage: http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/24600417/nhl-draft-hayden-hawkey-leads-2014s-best-names
Our best draft since 2003 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/players/cornell_NHL_Draft.html).
Starrett clocks in at #9 on Puck Daddy's list of awkward draft day photos:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/the-10-most-awkward-nhl-draft-rookie-photographs--gallery-062624874.html
Chris Heisenberg lists Matt Nuttle RD in Bloomington of the USHL for 2015.
Quote from: ursusminorChris Heisenberg lists Matt Nuttle RD in Bloomington of the USHL for 2015.
He's from just east of Buffalo.
More detail on Matt Nutter:
http://www.bloomingtonthunder.pointstreaksites.com/view/bloomingtonthunder/news-832/news_171331
Trent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
Quote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
Quote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
He's already up to 195 pounds (http://cchlsite.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=7945770&seasonid=12881). I'd be surprised if he arrives at East Hill weighing less than 210.
Quote from: cbuckserQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
He's already up to 195 pounds (http://cchlsite.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=7945770&seasonid=12881). I'd be surprised if he arrives at East Hill weighing less than 210.
Thanks. Updated in the table.
In 2016 there will be 4 guys at least 6-5 and up to 10 at least 6-3. The 2014 squad, which was the largest in the NCAA, had 3/7, respectively.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: cbuckserQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
He's already up to 195 pounds (http://cchlsite.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=7945770&seasonid=12881). I'd be surprised if he arrives at East Hill weighing less than 210.
Thanks. Updated in the table.
In 2016 there will be 4 guys at least 6-5 and up to 10 at least 6-3. The 2014 squad, which was the largest in the NCAA, had 3/7, respectively.
Why dont we just recruit blocks of concrete?
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cbuckserQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
He's already up to 195 pounds (http://cchlsite.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=7945770&seasonid=12881). I'd be surprised if he arrives at East Hill weighing less than 210.
Thanks. Updated in the table.
In 2016 there will be 4 guys at least 6-5 and up to 10 at least 6-3. The 2014 squad, which was the largest in the NCAA, had 3/7, respectively.
Why dont we just recruit blocks of concrete?
If they can skate, I'm all for it.
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: cbuckserQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: ursusminorTrent Shore of Carleton Place (CJHL) for 2016 according to Heisennerg.
More size (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
Height. Only 170 pounds. Where's da beef?
He'll bulk up. Kids are freakishly light for their frames.
Also, you know, all that knowledge is heavy...
He's already up to 195 pounds (http://cchlsite.stats.pointstreak.com/playerpage.html?playerid=7945770&seasonid=12881). I'd be surprised if he arrives at East Hill weighing less than 210.
Thanks. Updated in the table.
In 2016 there will be 4 guys at least 6-5 and up to 10 at least 6-3. The 2014 squad, which was the largest in the NCAA, had 3/7, respectively.
Why dont we just recruit blocks of concrete?
We don't?
Quote from: Jim HylaIf they can skate, I'm all for it.
Skating is nice. Finishing would be better.:-D
Quote from: TimVQuote from: Jim HylaIf they can skate, I'm all for it.
Skating is nice. Finishing would be better.:-D
They finish their checks, we need that other scoring thing.
Quote from: TimVQuote from: Jim HylaIf they can skate, I'm all for it.
Skating is nice. Finishing would be better.:-D
In my experience, someone else usually does the finishing for concrete blocks.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TimVQuote from: Jim HylaIf they can skate, I'm all for it.
Skating is nice. Finishing would be better.:-D
In my experience, someone else usually does the finishing for concrete blocks.
And they're seldom very pretty, but often quite effective. I could live with that.
For you people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePYrT-65i24)
Quote from: martyQuote from: TimVQuote from: Jim HylaIf they can skate, I'm all for it.
Skating is nice. Finishing would be better.:-D
They finish their checks, we need that other scoring thing.
Is that important?
Wing Alex Limoges of Selects Academy (@South Kent) U16 for 2016 according to Heisenberg.
He's actually on their U18 team http://southkentschool.org/sites/default/files/files/2014-2015_selects_academy_u-18_national_roster_0.pdf.
Quote from: ursusminorWing Alex Limoges of Selects Academy (@South Kent) U16 for 2016 according to Heisenberg.
He's actually on their U18 team http://southkentschool.org/sites/default/files/files/2014-2015_selects_academy_u-18_national_roster_0.pdf.
From a Selects scouting review (http://overtheboards.net/select-70-top-uncommitted-prospects-february-2014/) from last February:
QuoteDeceptively agile for his size, Limoges hockey sense and awareness make him an unignorable offensive threat. Intuitive on and around the puck with great short-passing, though his skating can improve.
He was considered the #35 best non-commit at that time. O'Leary was #32:
QuoteThe Halifax-native and QMJHL draft eligible is an athletic force in the making. Sharp pivot with a high compete level and a lot of tools to work with.
Quote from: ursusminorWing Alex Limoges of Selects Academy (@South Kent) U16 for 2016 according to Heisenberg.
He's actually on their U18 team http://southkentschool.org/sites/default/files/files/2014-2015_selects_academy_u-18_national_roster_0.pdf.
I like the description in this report (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2014/10/16/6988401/selects-academy-forward-alex-limoges-commits-to-cornell) that "he's very slick with the puck."
Over the Boards article (http://overtheboards.net/cornell-adds-coveted-carleton-place-defenseman-trent-shore-selects-academys-alex-limoges-and-ushl-rookie-matt-nuttle/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OverTheBoards+%28Over+The+Boards%29) about three recent Cornell recruits.
Quote from: ursusminorOver the Boards article (http://overtheboards.net/cornell-adds-coveted-carleton-place-defenseman-trent-shore-selects-academys-alex-limoges-and-ushl-rookie-matt-nuttle/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OverTheBoards+%28Over+The+Boards%29) about three recent Cornell recruits.
Wow, that was a fun read.
Drop the puck already, dammit.
Alex Green, D, Chicago Mission U-16. Was a 5th round pick by Green Bay in the USHL futures draft.
Quote from: scoop85Alex Green, D, Chicago Mission U-16. Was a 5th round pick by Green Bay in the USHL futures draft.
Brief SBN article. (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2014/10/25/7070537/alex-green-commits-to-cornell)
https://twitter.com/LucLalor/status/527121283067428864
Lalor was AJHL ROY in 2012-13. He missed almost all of 2013-14 with an injury. He also appears to be a vampire (http://www.gamblershockey.com/archives/player/luc-lalor). This season he has moved over to Green Bay in the USHL.
Quote from: TrotskyLalor was AJHL ROY in 2012-13. He missed almost all of 2013-14 with an injury. He also appears to be a vampire (http://www.gamblershockey.com/archives/player/luc-lalor). This season he has moved over to Green Bay in the USHL.
Seems more like a child of the corn.
We're on a recruiting roll:
https://twitter.com/OmahaLancers/status/527469963326418945
Quote from: ursusminorhttps://twitter.com/LucLalor/status/527121283067428864
Hopefully, this will mean we'll see many LLs in our box scores.
Is it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
Quote from: SwampyIs it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
So far, it's just quantity. Quality is proven on the ice.
Cornell has 2 played drafted this year who are expected to play for the Red next fall - Beau Starrett and Anthony Angello.
Quote from: CASCornell has 2 played drafted this year who are expected to play for the Red next fall - Beau Starrett and Anthony Angello.
And Sucks has how many draftees every year? I'll give Schafer a little more credit for utilizing talent than Donato, but the proof is in the pudding.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyIs it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
So far, it's just quantity. Quality is proven on the ice.
Of course that's true, but the same could be said at any level of sports recruiting, or drafting. If we are getting more of those, and I don't have the stats to say yes or no, I'm happier. I'd rather have more acknowledged "Class A" recruits, than have them go to the competition. Wouldn't you?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyIs it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
So far, it's just quantity. Quality is proven on the ice.
The quantity is impressive, anyway. In most seasons the list of "commitments who didn't come this Fall but are expected in future years" is about 8 or 9. This year it's 15 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
This may just reflect that colleges are getting commitments from younger and younger players (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/10/06_the_gentlemans_agreement.php). It's not as if the roster is growing, so what seems to be happening is we are getting commitments for years out farther into the future. And of course as we've seen many times lately, those commitments are not locked in.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: CASCornell has 2 played drafted this year who are expected to play for the Red next fall - Beau Starrett and Anthony Angello.
And Sucks has how many draftees every year? I'll give Schafer a little more credit for utilizing talent than Donato, but the proof is in the pudding.
Yeah, I made a similar point last year. Union had one NHL draft pick when they steamrolled to the NCAA title. Cornell seems like a less-extreme Harvard in the "makes use of highly-ranked recruits" category.
Whatever happend to our pipeline to the Nanaimo Clippers ? We had a great run of getting top end talent from that organization 5-10 years ago. Was it the assistant coaches, Brekke & Garrow. who had that area on the radar ?
Yes Union had only 1 drafted player, albeit an outstanding one. But the other 3 teams in the Frozen Four were loaded with draft picks.
Quote from: Cop at LynahWhatever happend to our pipeline to the Nanaimo Clippers ? We had a great run of getting top end talent from that organization 5-10 years ago. Was it the assistant coaches, Brekke & Garrow. who had that area on the radar ?
Their coach may have moved on. IIRC he and Schafer had a mutual admiration thing going on.
Quote from: Cop at LynahWhatever happend to our pipeline to the Nanaimo Clippers ? We had a great run of getting top end talent from that organization 5-10 years ago. Was it the assistant coaches, Brekke & Garrow. who had that area on the radar ?
Bill Bestwick was the coach and GM of the Clippers for like 15 years. His daughter was a CU hockey player.
There was some weirdness around the time Braden Birch moved from the Ontario to the BCHL to play for the clippers, and then was traded to the AJHL pretty quickly, didn't play, and ended up back in Ontario. It may be total coincidence and I'm reading too much into it, but that was right around the time we stopped getting players out of the Clippers or parking players there.
That said, recruiting over the last 10 years seems to have swung from the BCHL to Ontario to the US. Those Nanaimo-heavy teams (06-07 for example, with 5 Clippers on the roster) were 17/27 players from Canada (really 18 of 26 if you consider Justin Krueger Canadian, and remove Matt Hedge from the roster as he wasn't recruited). This year's team has 10 Canadians (maybe 9.5, Christian Hilbrich is listed as Canadian but his Bio says his family lives in the states now). This change seems to be about shifts in assistant coaches and where their recruiting contacts are, combined with the shift in relative strength of leagues.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyIs it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
So far, it's just quantity. Quality is proven on the ice.
The quantity is impressive, anyway. In most seasons the list of "commitments who didn't come this Fall but are expected in future years" is about 8 or 9. This year it's 15 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
This may just reflect that colleges are getting commitments from younger and younger players (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/10/06_the_gentlemans_agreement.php). It's not as if the roster is growing, so what seems to be happening is we are getting commitments for years out farther into the future. And of course as we've seen many times lately, those commitments are not locked in.
This. It's hard to get very excited about early commitments.
Quote from: CASYes Union had only 1 drafted player, albeit an outstanding one. But the other 3 teams in the Frozen Four were loaded with draft picks.
And most of Union's roster was collecting a pension from their first jobs. This isn't a criticism of the recruiting - do what works within the rules - but a 23-year-old who isn't a draft target may well be better on the ice than a teenager getting drafted for his potential.
My basic position is that in the absence of a scout's eye or the ability to compare statistics across a wide variety of pre-college leagues, I'd rather have more highly-rated kids than fewer. It's great that Schafer finds/develops these diamonds in the tundra (and it's great that Donato squanders his) but I'm still going to get a little more excited if there's some external validation of a recruit's potential when the news breaks that he's heading to Cornell.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: SwampyIs it just me, or is the quality of our recruiting much better this year?
So far, it's just quantity. Quality is proven on the ice.
The quantity is impressive, anyway. In most seasons the list of "commitments who didn't come this Fall but are expected in future years" is about 8 or 9. This year it's 15 (http://www.tbrw.info/?/seasons/2015/2015_Future_Players.html).
This may just reflect that colleges are getting commitments from younger and younger players (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/10/06_the_gentlemans_agreement.php). It's not as if the roster is growing, so what seems to be happening is we are getting commitments for years out farther into the future. And of course as we've seen many times lately, those commitments are not locked in.
This. It's hard to get very excited about early commitments.
Agreed. but in the current environment it would be worrisome if we weren't getting a bunch of early commitments, even if we expect a decent attrtion rate from them.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: CASYes Union had only 1 drafted player, albeit an outstanding one. But the other 3 teams in the Frozen Four were loaded with draft picks.
And most of Union's roster was collecting a pension from their first jobs. This isn't a criticism of the recruiting - do what works within the rules - but a 23-year-old who isn't a draft target may well be better on the ice than a teenager getting drafted for his potential.
Isn't Air Force notorious for this? And well, Ned's great teams?
Looking at the rosters. Union currently has seven 23+ year-olds (They had nine at the FF in April). Cornell will get one in a couple weeks (Lowry). Of note, Cornell has a 22 year-old Sophomore (Weidner).
In the NCAA Final, the only teenager on the ice for Union turned 20 the next day. CU has six skaters under 20.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: ugarteQuote from: CASYes Union had only 1 drafted player, albeit an outstanding one. But the other 3 teams in the Frozen Four were loaded with draft picks.
And most of Union's roster was collecting a pension from their first jobs. This isn't a criticism of the recruiting - do what works within the rules - but a 23-year-old who isn't a draft target may well be better on the ice than a teenager getting drafted for his potential.
Isn't Air Force notorious for this? And well, Ned's great teams?
Looking at the rosters. Union currently has seven 23+ year-olds (They had nine at the FF in April). Cornell will get one in a couple weeks (Lowry). Of note, Cornell has a 22 year-old Sophomore (Weidner).
In the NCAA Final, the only teenager on the ice for Union turned 20 the next day. CU has six skaters under 20.
Exactly! It's a tactic! Guys in their 20's with diminishing pro prospects looking for college degrees are people too! It's the same logic that allows teams with seniors like Mercer and Lehigh to knock off Duke.*
This post was 99% to make fun of Duke.
Quote from: Jim HylaFollow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Shier leaves Union
https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/554787883941642241
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Jim HylaFollow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Shier leaves Union
https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/554787883941642241
And his brief article. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2015/jan/12/shier-leaves-union-hockey-team/)
And his noticeably upset coach calls him a quitter in an interview with the press. I am not sure I blame the kid for leaving the team if that is how the supposedly-mature adult in the dynamic handles the situation. There is always more to a story like this.
Quote from: dag14And his noticeably upset coach calls him a quitter in an interview with the press. I am not sure I blame the kid for leaving the team if that is how the supposedly-mature adult in the dynamic handles the situation. There is always more to a story like this.
I suppose when you're supposedly-mature national champion you can be petulant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-AzBqb1h1g
His decision doesn't seem to be tied to the hockey team, however I hope (within the bounds of the rules) some contact is made with him on the off chance he might like to give another school a shot...
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Jim HylaFollow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Shier leaves Union
https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/554787883941642241
And his brief article. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2015/jan/12/shier-leaves-union-hockey-team/)
Schott's update after getting in touch. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2015/jan/13/shier-said-leaving-union-was-personal-decision/)
Quote from: TrotskyHis decision doesn't seem to be tied to the hockey team, however I hope (within the bounds of the rules) some contact is made with him on the off chance he might like to give another school a shot...
Yeh. He'd be perfect for us. Scoring line: 0 2 2.::rolleyes::
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Jim HylaFollow up on one we lost. Union recruit Shier named OJHL playoff MVP (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/apr/20/union-recruit-shier-named-ojhl-playoff-mvp/).
Shier leaves Union
https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/554787883941642241
And his brief article. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2015/jan/12/shier-leaves-union-hockey-team/)
Schott's update after getting in touch. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2015/jan/13/shier-said-leaving-union-was-personal-decision/)
It seems like he has more class than his former coach.
Quote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyHis decision doesn't seem to be tied to the hockey team, however I hope (within the bounds of the rules) some contact is made with him on the off chance he might like to give another school a shot...
Yeh. He'd be perfect for us. Scoring line: 0 2 2.::rolleyes::
I have a soft spot for legacies. And he went 21-33-54 in 46 GP in his final year in the OJHL, FWIW.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyHis decision doesn't seem to be tied to the hockey team, however I hope (within the bounds of the rules) some contact is made with him on the off chance he might like to give another school a shot...
Yeh. He'd be perfect for us. Scoring line: 0 2 2.::rolleyes::
I have a soft spot for legacies. And he went 21-33-54 in 46 GP in his final year in the OJHL, FWIW.
He also did great in the league playoffs and the Dudley-Hewitt Cup, but he was invisible in the Royal Bank Cup. I watched the latter on-line because RPI had two recruits on the same team (Mike Prapavessis, a current freshman, and Jacob Hayhurst who is expected to arrive in 2016).
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: TimVQuote from: TrotskyHis decision doesn't seem to be tied to the hockey team, however I hope (within the bounds of the rules) some contact is made with him on the off chance he might like to give another school a shot...
Yeh. He'd be perfect for us. Scoring line: 0 2 2.::rolleyes::
I have a soft spot for legacies. And he went 21-33-54 in 46 GP in his final year in the OJHL, FWIW.
He also did great in the league playoffs and the Dudley-Hewitt Cup, but he was invisible in the Royal Bank Cup. I watched the latter on-line because RPI had two recruits on the same team (Mike Prapavessis, a current freshman, and Jacob Hayhurst who is expected to arrive in 2016).
So, sounds like a strong D3 player. Like "AAAA" players in baseball, who can dominate AAA but are blown away by MLB.
Has any Cornell player ever tranferred to D3 and done well there? Only guy who comes to mind is the Utavian... whose name doesn't come to mind. Levi something?
Quote from: TrotskySo, sounds like a strong D3 player. Like "AAAA" players in baseball, who can dominate AAA but are blown away by MLB.
Has any Cornell player ever tranferred to D3 and done well there? Only guy who comes to mind is the Utavian... whose name doesn't come to mind. Levi something?
Matt McKeown left Cornell and went to Fredonia and had a solid three year career there.
Also had a few guys leave and go play CIS hockey, most recently Jacob Johnston and Jordan Berk.
Quote from: pfibigerQuote from: TrotskySo, sounds like a strong D3 player. Like "AAAA" players in baseball, who can dominate AAA but are blown away by MLB.
Has any Cornell player ever tranferred to D3 and done well there? Only guy who comes to mind is the Utavian... whose name doesn't come to mind. Levi something?
Matt McKeown left Cornell and went to Fredonia and had a solid three year career there.
Also had a few guys leave and go play CIS hockey, most recently Jacob Johnston and Jordan Berk.
I suspect that he will go to a CIS school. According to HockeydB (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=144562) he is born on 8/27/93. If he sits out a year, he will be almost 26 when he graduates.
A new commit -- our first Russian perhaps, Trotsky?
https://twitter.com/otbpuckwatch/status/592470993790234624
Did I read the tweet correctly to say that he's a "great finishing" forward? ::cheer::
Quote from: scoop85A new commit -- our first Russian perhaps, Trotsky?
https://twitter.com/otbpuckwatch/status/592470993790234624
Did I read the tweet correctly to say that he's a "great finishing" forward? ::cheer::
What's the over/under on the number of unique pronunciations that visiting announcers will use during his (illustrious, productive, record-breaking - we can hope!) career?
Quote from: scoop85A new commit -- our first Russian perhaps, Trotsky?
I believe so.
Australia 1
Belarus 1
Canada 337
Czech Republic 2
Denmark 1
Finland 1
Germany 1
Singapore 1
Slovakia 1
South Africa 1
Sweden 1
Switzerland 1
Ukraine 1
United Kingdom 1
USA 171
Quote from: scoop85A new commit -- our first Russian perhaps, Trotsky?
https://twitter.com/otbpuckwatch/status/592470993790234624
Did I read the tweet correctly to say that he's a "great finishing" forward? ::cheer::
There must be a mistake, his brother Maxim (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=226951) at 6'5", 220lb, seems more like a Cornell player.
Quote from: scoop85Did I read the tweet correctly to say that he's a "great finishing" forward? ::cheer::
Lord knows if it will carry over to D-1, but, yeah (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=300826).
Quote from: RobbWhat's the over/under on the number of unique pronunciations that visiting announcers will use during his (illustrious, productive, record-breaking - we can hope!) career?
And the over/under on Big Red/Red Army/Soviet puns used by sportswriters?
Quote from: RichHAnd the over/under on Big Red/Red Army/Soviet puns used by sportswriters?
Our mascot
is a bear.
Quote from: scoop85A new commit -- our first Russian perhaps, Trotsky?
https://twitter.com/otbpuckwatch/status/592470993790234624
Did I read the tweet correctly to say that he's a "great finishing" forward? ::cheer::
I am sure we can fix that flaw in his defensive game.
Quote from: TowerroadI am sure we can fix that flaw in his defensive game.
Only Dean Smith could hold MJ to 20 points a game.
More on Vlad the Impaler (http://pointstreaksites.com/view/bloomingtonthunder/thunder-news/news_296851) (sorry, couldn't resist -- it's the end of a long workday)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHAnd the over/under on Big Red/Red Army/Soviet puns used by sportswriters?
Our mascot is a bear.
And he's onlhy about 25 years too late to be a truly Big RED!
Kyle Betts, F, for 2016-17 probably
http://www.570news.com/2015/05/01/siskins-forward-to-play-ncaa-hockey/
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHAnd the over/under on Big Red/Red Army/Soviet puns used by sportswriters?
Our mascot is a bear.
And he's onlhy about 25 years too late to be a truly Big RED!
Will the band learn to play "Georgia on My Mind?"
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Will the band learn to play "Georgia on My Mind?"
No, but the crowd should learn this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b270ka2eB_4).
Your performance is better, but I always think of this one:
https://youtu.be/zsC2ETsZL0g?t=1m51s
Quote from: BMacYour performance is better, but I always think of this one:
https://youtu.be/zsC2ETsZL0g?t=1m51s
Those are the Soviet words.
It really is the coolest anthem.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: BMacYour performance is better, but I always think of this one:
https://youtu.be/zsC2ETsZL0g?t=1m51s
Those are the Soviet words.
It really is the coolest anthem.
I'm a little over half an hour and 23 years too late, but I still like this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8EMx7Y16Vo) better.
Think metaphorically and ask yourself, "Of what have Big Red fans been most starved?" and you'll see the relevance.
Am I the only one that thought of this version?
https://youtu.be/3TVU-sjy5_4?t=31s
Some nice words on some incoming recruits from:
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2015/5/14/8580891/chowder-cup-new-england-pro-am-pre-nhl-draft-review-scouting-reports-recruiting-prospects
QuoteSam Sternschein, RW, 6-1/180, Tri-City Storm (Hockey Essentials White) - He was the best player on the ice all weekend for this observer's money. He was my ninth-ranked forward at last summer's Select 16s, but he was even better this weekend. He's continued to develop, get stronger and use his power to his advantage. He has an explosive first stride and can really pick up steam heading up ice. He had a heavy shot and is just a constant presence on the ice. College: Cornell
Mike O'Leary, LW, 6-2/180, Salisbury School (Boston Generals Draft) - The Nova Scotia native is a little more raw than Sternschein, but he has exceptional physical tools as well. He has the size and skating ability and can get off a quick, hard shot. He still has to put it together, but he has the potential to be a second to third round selection in next summer's draft. College: Cornell
We need scoring. Any eligibility left? (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32770413)
Quote from: pfibigerSome nice words on some incoming recruits from:
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2015/5/14/8580891/chowder-cup-new-england-pro-am-pre-nhl-draft-review-scouting-reports-recruiting-prospects
QuoteSam Sternschein, RW, 6-1/180, Tri-City Storm (Hockey Essentials White) - He was the best player on the ice all weekend for this observer's money. He was my ninth-ranked forward at last summer's Select 16s, but he was even better this weekend. He's continued to develop, get stronger and use his power to his advantage. He has an explosive first stride and can really pick up steam heading up ice. He had a heavy shot and is just a constant presence on the ice. College: Cornell
Mike O'Leary, LW, 6-2/180, Salisbury School (Boston Generals Draft) - The Nova Scotia native is a little more raw than Sternschein, but he has exceptional physical tools as well. He has the size and skating ability and can get off a quick, hard shot. He still has to put it together, but he has the potential to be a second to third round selection in next summer's draft. College: Cornell
I saw Sam Sternschein play a few times for his primary fall/winter team, the NJ Avalanche U18AAA team. Hockey Essentials is a spring/summer program coached by his Avs coach. The NJ Avalanche U18AAA team was a very strong team this past year, they lost in the USA Hockey national championship game in OT. Sam played up as a 16 year old on this team. Many of his teammates and competitors were 2 years older. He held his own at this level, he wasn't overly fast or physical at this level but as a young player competing at a very advanced level he did quite well. He often played on the top line of this team. If his development curve continues and he gets faster he will be quite a college player.
Former Cornell commit Michael McCarron will be playing for the Oshawa Generals in the Memorial Cup Final tonight (NHL Network at 7 EDT). As a scout for the Sabres said to me in Florida in December, Michael may be the only player to commit to three different NCAA teams and attend none of them. He first committed to Michigan State approximaely at the beginning of ninth grade, then switched to Cornell after his brother John enjoyed a good freshman year. After not being accepted he switched his commitment to Western Michigan, but after getting drafted in the first round by the Canadiens, he decided to go the major junior route instead.
Tonight's game is also the last game at the Colisee in Quebec, as a new arena is being built there,
RPI received a commitment for this fall from former Cornell commit Cam Hackett
https://twitter.com/CamHackett/status/610428322405728259
He replaces A*** D***** who will forever live in infamy.
Quote from: ursusminorRPI received a commitment for this fall from former Cornell commit Cam Hackett
https://twitter.com/CamHackett/status/610428322405728259
Is he also going to go to school there?
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: ursusminorRPI received a commitment for this fall from former Cornell commit Cam Hackett
https://twitter.com/CamHackett/status/610428322405728259
Is he also going to go to school there?
Well, he is not in the Directory (http://rpinfo.rpi.edu/directories.html) yet, so maybe not. ;)
How come nobody wanted to check that guy?
Very excited about the group of recruits coming to Cornell in 2017. O'Leary, Sternschein, Limoges and Dzhioshvili in particular should be impact players from day 1. The attached is from the Dubuque Fighting Saints tryout camp held recently.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkggRqBL6k