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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Towerroad on November 20, 2013, 01:29:48 PM

Title: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Towerroad on November 20, 2013, 01:29:48 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/whats-the-capital-of-canada-harvard-video-140610532.html
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Rosey on November 20, 2013, 02:09:32 PM
Quote from: Towerroadhttp://news.yahoo.com/whats-the-capital-of-canada-harvard-video-140610532.html
I didn't know that, either. I probably would have guessed Toronto. TIL the capital of Canada is Ottawa. I wonder when I'll ever use that knowledge?

These ambush-style proofs of ignorance only work when the target audience considers the information obvious. Thus, a video demonstrating Harvard students not being able to, say, enumerate the continents or point out Britain on a map would be funny.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Trotsky on November 20, 2013, 02:26:32 PM
Quote from: Kyle RoseThese ambush-style proofs of ignorance only work when the target audience considers the information obvious.

"How do you synthesize a methylated alkaloid?"

Also you know the responses are edited to show only the stupidest.

And FWIW, the only reason I know the capital of Nevada is because of Bugs Bunny.  That's why they call it trivia.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Towerroad on November 20, 2013, 02:54:43 PM
When someone pitches you a slow one right over the middle are you really going to question it?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 20, 2013, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseThese ambush-style proofs of ignorance only work when the target audience considers the information obvious.

"How do you synthesize a methylated alkaloid?"

Also you know the responses are edited to show only the stupidest.

And FWIW, the only reason I know the capital of Nevada is because of Bugs Bunny.  That's why they call it trivia.

I knew I should've take that right turn at Carson City?  Huh?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Trotsky on November 20, 2013, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Kyle RoseThese ambush-style proofs of ignorance only work when the target audience considers the information obvious.

"How do you synthesize a methylated alkaloid?"

Also you know the responses are edited to show only the stupidest.

And FWIW, the only reason I know the capital of Nevada is because of Bugs Bunny.  That's why they call it trivia.

I knew I should've take that right turn at Carson City?  Huh?

Different episode.

He knew he should have taken that right turn at Albuquerque.

In the episode with the gangsters, the exchange is:

"Alright, rabbit.  Whaddya know?"

"Me?  I know lotsa things!  ... Carson City is the capital of Nevada!"

1:35 here: http://www.supercartoons.net/cartoon/674/bugs-bunny-bugs-and-thugs.html
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 20, 2013, 05:35:57 PM
This whole thing was stupid.  Give me a control group.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Towerroad on November 20, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaThis whole thing was stupid.  Give me a control group.

You want control? "Skate Skate Skate Turrnnn Turrnnn Bend Over Bend Over Bend Over...."
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: ursusminor on November 20, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
Granted that knowledge of facts has little to do with intelligence, although the ability to retain a lot of facts may have, but I would expect people who attend what is usually considered an elite college to know what the capital of our northern neighbor is.

I wonder if Obama knows it.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 20, 2013, 08:48:50 PM
No the real reason is the great game, BC 5 Harvard 0 6:08 to go and BC is 2 men up.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 20, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Actually it was coincidental 17 min penalties. Harvard still loses 5-1.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Rosey on November 20, 2013, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: ursusminorGranted that knowledge of facts has little to do with intelligence, although the ability to retain a lot of facts may have, but I would expect people who attend what is usually considered an elite college to know what the capital of our northern neighbor is.
I'll bet you're disappointed a lot.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: andyw2100 on November 21, 2013, 07:55:19 AM
The funniest part of the video was when the interviewer asked the woman who answered correctly if she was Canadian so quickly after she had answered and of course (or it wouldn't have made the video) she was!
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: ursusminor on November 21, 2013, 10:03:57 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: ursusminorGranted that knowledge of facts has little to do with intelligence, although the ability to retain a lot of facts may have, but I would expect people who attend what is usually considered an elite college to know what the capital of our northern neighbor is.
I'll bet you're disappointed a lot.
Yes, although mainly about the results of RPI-Union games. :-D

Seriously, I would think that students who are admitted to a highly selective college, as Harvard is, would have read enough, whether it is books, newspapers or the Internet, that they would have picked up this information, even if it was never taught to them. It is, of course, possible that they spoke to several hundred students to get the few that are in this video. It is also possible that these were random people who walked though the Harvard campus but aren't students there.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2013, 10:19:59 AM
You may be overestimating the breadth of education, and the curiosity, of these students.  Stovepiping of students is becoming a big problem, even at elite schools.  Arts students don't know calculus, science students don't know who Ibsen was, and tech students don't know  much of anything outside their field.  There are probably a hundred dissertations exploring the narrowing of the academic mind (each of them no doubt from a narrow perspective).

Of course, it was easier to be a Renaissance Man or Woman when all of human knowledge fit on one bookcase.  But it would be nice if all educated people has a passing familiarity with the basics of each field of human endeavor, particularly history, geography and political science if they are voters.
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: KeithK on November 21, 2013, 10:59:11 AM
Quote from: Trotskyit would be nice if all educated people has a passing familiarity with the basics of each field of human endeavor, particularly history, geography and political science if they are voters.
How about economics?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Rosey on November 21, 2013, 10:59:43 AM
Quote from: ursusminorSeriously, I would think that students who are admitted to a highly selective college, as Harvard is, would have read enough, whether it is books, newspapers or the Internet, that they would have picked up this information, even if it was never taught to them.
I just don't buy this argument. I read probably more than 5,000,000 news-ish words each year and listen to the audio edition of the Economist with regularity, and I did not know that Ottawa was the capital of Canada. I'm sure I have run across it—probably lots of times—but it's just not important enough to have stood out in anything I've read. Canada's government is rarely in the news, and when it is it's usually presented as "Canada" or "the Canadian parliament".

(I'll never forget it now, though... Thanks for cluttering my brain with useless nonsense. Maybe I can flush it out with some more Simpsons quotes.)
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Josh '99 on November 21, 2013, 11:28:28 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: ursusminorSeriously, I would think that students who are admitted to a highly selective college, as Harvard is, would have read enough, whether it is books, newspapers or the Internet, that they would have picked up this information, even if it was never taught to them.
I just don't buy this argument. I read probably more than 5,000,000 news-ish words each year and listen to the audio edition of the Economist with regularity, and I did not know that Ottawa was the capital of Canada.
So YOU'RE the reason Cornell isn't winning lately.  :-}
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Rosey on November 21, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: ursusminorSeriously, I would think that students who are admitted to a highly selective college, as Harvard is, would have read enough, whether it is books, newspapers or the Internet, that they would have picked up this information, even if it was never taught to them.
I just don't buy this argument. I read probably more than 5,000,000 news-ish words each year and listen to the audio edition of the Economist with regularity, and I did not know that Ottawa was the capital of Canada.
So YOU'RE the reason Cornell isn't winning lately.  :-}
"Sex Cauldron? I thought they closed that place down!"
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on November 21, 2013, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: Trotskyscience students don't know who Ibsen was.

Didn't he play Jed Clampett?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: George64 on November 21, 2013, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Kyle RoseI read probably more than 5,000,000 news-ish words each year and listen to the audio edition of the Economist with regularity, and I did not know that Ottawa was the capital of Canada. I'm sure I have run across it—probably lots of times—but it's just not important enough to have stood out in anything I've read. Canada's government is rarely in the news, and when it is it's usually presented as "Canada" or "the Canadian parliament".

What's the name of Colin Greening's current team?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: Trotsky on November 21, 2013, 02:03:24 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Trotskyit would be nice if all educated people has a passing familiarity with the basics of each field of human endeavor, particularly history, geography and political science if they are voters.
How about economics?

De gustibus non est disputandum. (Though it would be nice if everybody knew the definitions before entering the arena, even if they just rote memorized them.  I got through Cornell, Stanford and my first three jobs without knowing economics basics that should be taught in high school.)
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: ursusminor on November 22, 2013, 12:12:15 AM
Reposted on MSN. (http://now.msn.com/harvard-students-cant-name-canadas-capital-in-viral-video)
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: profudge on November 22, 2013, 09:28:04 AM
Maybe they should ask the hockey team  ???
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: nr53 on November 22, 2013, 02:35:34 PM
They just need to watch Canadian Bacon... or did I just reference a movie they're too young to have watched?
Title: Re: The Real Reason Harvard Sucks at Hockey
Post by: ugarte on November 25, 2013, 09:17:33 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rose(I'll never forget it now, though... Thanks for cluttering my brain with useless nonsense. Maybe I can flush it out with some more Simpsons quotes.)
"Red Squeezebuzzer?"