Here are links to some of the discussions.
Their website pregame, with some video interviews. (http://www.omavs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=795013&SPID=135111&DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=209290422&DB_OEM_ID=31400)
Next, their game notes (http://www.omavs.com/pdf9/2557265.pdf) and our game notes. (http://cornellbigred.com/documents/2013/10/22/102613_uno.pdf?id=5579)
I didn't look for a fan site.
Will DeSwardt be eligible to play?
Could his behavior in the York game be a harbinger of last season?
::thud::
Quote from: Johnny 5Will DeSwardt be eligible to play?
Could his behavior in the York game be a harbinger of last season?
::thud::
All he got was Game Misconduct, not DQ, so yes to #1 and who knows to #2. But all teams are going to get Contact to Head penalties, so I'm not worried.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Johnny 5Will DeSwardt be eligible to play?
Could his behavior in the York game be a harbinger of last season?
::thud::
All he got was Game Misconduct, not DQ, so yes to #1 and who knows to #2. But all teams are going to get Contact to Head penalties, so I'm not worried.
Would an exhibition DQ result in sitting out the next game?
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Johnny 5Will DeSwardt be eligible to play?
Could his behavior in the York game be a harbinger of last season?
::thud::
All he got was Game Misconduct, not DQ, so yes to #1 and who knows to #2. But all teams are going to get Contact to Head penalties, so I'm not worried.
Would an exhibition DQ result in sitting out the next game?
Yes.
Quote from: Jim HylaI didn't look for a fan site.
http://www.mavpuck.com/mpboard/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=1
ECAC Radio features Iles and Saulnier. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/Weekly_Radio_Show_-_13-14/20132510_Weekly_Radio_Show)
USCHO picks us to split with UNO. (http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/)
QuoteNo. 19 Cornell at Nebraska-Omaha
Candace: The Mavericks have looked very inconsistent to start the year, but have two weekends under their belt. Meanwhile, this is the season opener for Cornell. I'm thinking split. Nebraska-Omaha 4-2, Cornell 4-2
Matthew: UNO has been up-and-down so far this season and is having serious issues staying out of the box, as the Mavericks were called for 21 penalties last weekend at Northern Michigan and have been hit with 34 in total in their first four games. That needs to change this weekend against Cornell ahead of a grueling November slate for UNO: Denver, North Dakota, Michigan and Miami. There's an easy joke to be made here about how the Big Red stands a good chance of winning in Nebraska this weekend, but I do think Cornell will pick up one 'W' this weekend. Cornell 4-2, Nebraska-Omaha 3-1
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/#ixzz2ikp1NFj7
Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO picks us to split with UNO. (http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/)
QuoteNo. 19 Cornell at Nebraska-Omaha
Candace: The Mavericks have looked very inconsistent to start the year, but have two weekends under their belt. Meanwhile, this is the season opener for Cornell. I'm thinking split. Nebraska-Omaha 4-2, Cornell 4-2
Matthew: UNO has been up-and-down so far this season and is having serious issues staying out of the box, as the Mavericks were called for 21 penalties last weekend at Northern Michigan and have been hit with 34 in total in their first four games. That needs to change this weekend against Cornell ahead of a grueling November slate for UNO: Denver, North Dakota, Michigan and Miami. There's an easy joke to be made here about how the Big Red stands a good chance of winning in Nebraska this weekend, but I do think Cornell will pick up one 'W' this weekend. Cornell 4-2, Nebraska-Omaha 3-1
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/#ixzz2ikp1NFj7
It might be a very busy weekend for the scorekeeper and penalty box door guys this weekend.
LGR!
Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO picks us to split with UNO. (http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/)
QuoteNo. 19 Cornell at Nebraska-Omaha
There's an easy joke to be made here about how the Big Red stands a good chance of winning in Nebraska this weekend, but I do think Cornell will pick up one 'W' this weekend.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/#ixzz2ikp1NFj7
Oh, I get it, because they're yet another school who think their team is the "Big Red." Along with Nebraska-Lincoln, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Indiana...
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaUSCHO picks us to split with UNO. (http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/)
QuoteNo. 19 Cornell at Nebraska-Omaha
There's an easy joke to be made here about how the Big Red stands a good chance of winning in Nebraska this weekend, but I do think Cornell will pick up one 'W' this weekend.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/#ixzz2ikp1NFj7
Oh, I get it, because they're yet another school who think their team is the "Big Red." Along with Nebraska-Lincoln, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Indiana...
A thread on their fan site is called "Big Red (the original) Watch", about us. Someone in the thread suggests they change it to "Big Red (The Actual and Only)". I think UNO and UNL don't get along all that well.
FYI, promo code "IvyHockey2013" gives a 20% discount on the Ivy League Digital Network if you sign up this weekend. I just did the 4-month plan for ~$27 figuring that'll be good to get through the bulk of the hockey regular season.
Quote from: Jordan 04FYI, promo code "IvyHockey2013" gives a 20% discount on the Ivy League Digital Network if you sign up this weekend. I just did the 4-month plan for ~$27 figuring that'll be good to get through the bulk of the hockey regular season.
Edit: Found the other thread on it and it answers most my questions. My bad.
Quote from: DafatoneQuote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaUSCHO picks us to split with UNO. (http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/)
QuoteNo. 19 Cornell at Nebraska-Omaha
There's an easy joke to be made here about how the Big Red stands a good chance of winning in Nebraska this weekend, but I do think Cornell will pick up one 'W' this weekend.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/nchc-blog/2013/10/25/nchc-picks-oct-25/#ixzz2ikp1NFj7
Oh, I get it, because they're yet another school who think their team is the "Big Red." Along with Nebraska-Lincoln, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Indiana...
A thread on their fan site is called "Big Red (the original) Watch", about us. Someone in the thread suggests they change it to "Big Red (The Actual and Only)". I think UNO and UNL don't get along all that well.
Original Famous Red
First goal for the good guys. Joakim Ryan.
Terrible goal to give up with .2 seconds to go - Iisle flat on his belly after scrum
Generally good to see hockey. Lots of chances for us, particularly breakaways; the shot totals haven't really reflected the balance of play. Penalty kill, power play look fine. The UNO announcers seem genuinely impressed with our poke checking and pass stealing.
I have a feeling we'll bury a few of these chances before the game is out.
When was the last time a visiting announce team said tha Cornell was "bigger, stronger and quicker" than Omaha
UNO scores on a penalty shot... why, ghost of Joe Nieuwendyk, WHY!?!?
Have we heard this story before?: Iles flops, Cornell takes too many penalties, midwestern refs screw Cornell
Good win for Cornell. A lot of positives to take away from this game. Penalty kill was awesome with several shorthanded odd man rushes. Shots on goal were not indicative of the territorial advantage Cornell enjoyed. Now lets see what's left in the tank for tomorrow night.
So uh, did we have any fan presence whatsoever? The "Hockey in Omaha" thread has me and one other poster, I think. I'm not expecting a huge Cornell crowd, but it'd be nice to be joining others, just a little, in some cheers.
Recap here (http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/10/25/bardreaus-goal-assist-lead-cornell-over-nebraska-omaha/).
Quote from: SwampyRecap here (http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/10/25/bardreaus-goal-assist-lead-cornell-over-nebraska-omaha/).
Here's CornellBigRed.com (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/25/MICE_1025135017.aspx), The Ithaca Journal (http://www.ithacajournal.com/article/20131025/SPORTS03/310250096/Cornell-rallies-three-third-period-goals-top-Nebraska-Omaha-opener), and the Omaha World-Herald. (http://www.omaha.com/article/20131025/MAVS/131028922/1085) The Omaha paper has some nice pictures.
As an aside did you see the "glove save" from the BC-Minny game on ESPN. CHN has the video. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/26_minnesota,_boston_college.php)
Would be interesting to know why announcers were convinced the replayed goal was good and so shocked it was not allowed. And the penalty shot, was that even close to being a play where the guy was clearly ahead of be d and denied a shot?
Quote from: upprdeckAnd the penalty shot, was that even close to being a play where the guy was clearly ahead of be d and denied a shot?
Yes.
Weird promo picture for Omaha series on CU Athletics website: Tiitinen and four other players in game whites embracing - in an EMPTY Lynah.::wtf::
Quote from: DafatoneSo uh, did we have any fan presence whatsoever? The "Hockey in Omaha" thread has me and one other poster, I think. I'm not expecting a huge Cornell crowd, but it'd be nice to be joining others, just a little, in some cheers.
No, no real Cornell crowd to speak of in an otherwise well attended game. I will be right behind the Cornell bench tonight so perhaps a few folks will be found in that section.
Quote from: DafatoneSo uh, did we have any fan presence whatsoever? The "Hockey in Omaha" thread has me and one other poster, I think. I'm not expecting a huge Cornell crowd, but it'd be nice to be joining others, just a little, in some cheers.
Yeah. There's a part of me that's disappointed in myself for not making the trip. I also missed out on the Denver jaunts the last 2 seasons. There's an itch to try to visit as many D-1 arenas as I can, and having my team go west should be incentive. I guess the fact that there really isn't a whole lot of traveling Faithful to twist the peer-pressure arm these days plays a factor.
Little bit of scoreboard reffing at the end, there, but I'll take it.
BTW, break up the ECAC (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). Yikes!
Great start. Let's Go Red!
Quote from: Scersk '97Little bit of scoreboard reffing at the end, there, but I'll take it.
BTW, break up the ECAC (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). Yikes!
The times, they are a-changin'.
cornell was unbelievably lucky to win this game, uh oh
Quote from: Tom Pasniewski 98Quote from: DafatoneSo uh, did we have any fan presence whatsoever? The "Hockey in Omaha" thread has me and one other poster, I think. I'm not expecting a huge Cornell crowd, but it'd be nice to be joining others, just a little, in some cheers.
No, no real Cornell crowd to speak of in an otherwise well attended game. I will be right behind the Cornell bench tonight so perhaps a few folks will be found in that section.
For no discernible reason, I got seats behind and to the side of the Omaha bench. So maybe I missed some fan action, but everything was very quiet on my end. I shouted "red" during the anthem and felt pretty sheepish.
The UNO fans were pleasant enough, but not exactly loud. Once the game ended, there was a bunch of "Cornell sucks!" and I think a "Harvard rejects" chant. Which I don't get. I'm all for being mean during hockey games, but why be pleasant all night and then get pissed once the game ends? Granted, we appear to be a pretty chippy bunch (and the refs sure liked using their whistles) so I suppose I might've been unhappy if I were an UNO fan.
As for the game, it wasn't as lopsided as the shots on goal indicate, but this could have been real ugly without Iles. Our kill looked great except when they scored, and our PP looked bad except when we scored on it. So I have nothing of value to add about our special teams.
Ferlin set up the final goal with a fantastic pass. Freschi seemed out of position kind of often. Hilbrich is just massive. That's about all I have. Nice way to start the season, even if Iles and luck had a lot to do with it. LGR.
Quote from: DafatoneFerlin set up the final goal with a fantastic pass. Freschi seemed out of position kind of often. Hilbrich is just massive. That's about all I have. Nice way to start the season, even if Iles and luck had a lot to do with it. LGR.
Better to be lucky than good. And have a good goalie in net.
Wish I could've been there. Especially since the plans that made me scuttle my preliminary thoughts to make the trip ended up getting cancelled.
Quote from: DafatoneFreschi seemed out of position kind of often.
He'll shoot from anywhere. Usually that's a bug, but it's not like it's exascerbating a team-wide problem.
The good news is Lowry and his post-game dancing partner only got GMs, not DQs, so he will be available Friday.
Quote from: DafatoneFor no discernible reason, I got seats behind and to the side of the Omaha bench. So maybe I missed some fan action, but everything was very quiet on my end. I shouted "red" during the anthem and felt pretty sheepish.
Out of curiosity, did you see the sights of lovely Omaha?
Game Reports:
Omaha World-Herald (http://www.omaha.com/article/20131026/MAVS/131028810/1089#cornell-picks-up-two-game-sweep-of-mavs)
Ithaca Journal (http://www.ithacajournal.com/article/20131026/SPORTS03/310260061/Cornell-men-s-hockey-team-holds-off-Nebraska-Omaha)
CornellBigRed (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/26/MICE_1026132153.aspx)
Yucky Box Score (http://cornellbigred.com/documents/2013/10/26/102613_uno_box_2.pdf?id=5590):-D
USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/10/26/iles-the-difference-as-cornell-sweeps-nebraska-omaha/)
Quote from: DafatoneOur kill looked great except when they scored, and our PP looked bad except when we scored on it.
**]::crazy::::doh::
Quote from: Cop at LynahShots on goal were not indicative of the territorial advantage Cornell enjoyed.
Thanks Maple Leafs coaching staff (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9799967/toronto-maple-leafs-advanced-stats)...
I'm just happy that Ferlin scored before January. Maybe this is a sign of good things to come. :-)
Quote from: MattSI'm just happy that Ferlin scored before January. Maybe this is a sign of good things to come. :-)
Say nothing of all those assists.:-)
Quote from: css228Quote from: Cop at LynahShots on goal were not indicative of the territorial advantage Cornell enjoyed.
Thanks Maple Leafs coaching staff (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9799967/toronto-maple-leafs-advanced-stats)...
Scoff if you want, but most of the UNO shots were from far out—the kind of stuff I expect Iles to nearly always handle. Reminded me of old timey games against Clarkson during the Mark Morris years. Push 'em outside and let them shoot all they want.
Even the UNO TV guys, except for "Lester" who just kept blithering on like the inveterate homer that he is, commented on the mostly useless shots from outside.
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: css228Quote from: Cop at LynahShots on goal were not indicative of the territorial advantage Cornell enjoyed.
Thanks Maple Leafs coaching staff (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9799967/toronto-maple-leafs-advanced-stats)...
Scoff if you want, but most of the UNO shots were from far out—the kind of stuff I expect Iles to nearly always handle. Reminded me of old timey games against Clarkson during the Mark Morris years. Push 'em outside and let them shoot all they want.
Which leads me to this gem (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/07/19/shot-quality/). Simply put, getting out shot by 20 shots on goal a night is NOT conducive to winning a lot in the long term. (http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/4/4/4178716/why-possession-matters-a-visual-guide-to-fenwick)
Quote from: css228Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: css228Quote from: Cop at LynahShots on goal were not indicative of the territorial advantage Cornell enjoyed.
Thanks Maple Leafs coaching staff (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9799967/toronto-maple-leafs-advanced-stats)...
Scoff if you want, but most of the UNO shots were from far out—the kind of stuff I expect Iles to nearly always handle. Reminded me of old timey games against Clarkson during the Mark Morris years. Push 'em outside and let them shoot all they want.
Which leads me to this gem (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/07/19/shot-quality/). Simply put, getting out shot by 20 shots on goal a night is NOT conducive to winning a lot in the long term. (http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/4/4/4178716/why-possession-matters-a-visual-guide-to-fenwick)
I'll point out that according to the CHN app's box score, not only was Cornell outshot 40-13 on Saturday, but CU had a 28-9 advantage in blocked shots. Going by that, in attempted shots, it was 68-22.
I'm not sure what that means, other than "it's early" and "we did what we needed to win."
It looked like Bardreau was hurting pretty bad near the end of the game. Did anyone else notice and does anybody have information on that?
Talked to him on campus today and he looked and acted just fine.
good to hear, thanks..
Cornell gets the "Team of the Week" write-up for CHN:
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/29_team_of_the_week_cornell.php
Quote from: css228Quote from: Scersk '97Scoff if you want, but most of the UNO shots were from far out—the kind of stuff I expect Iles to nearly always handle. Reminded me of old timey games against Clarkson during the Mark Morris years. Push 'em outside and let them shoot all they want.
Which leads me to this gem (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/07/19/shot-quality/). Simply put, getting out shot by 20 shots on goal a night is NOT conducive to winning a lot in the long term. (http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/4/4/4178716/why-possession-matters-a-visual-guide-to-fenwick)
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't like that we're getting outshot
at all. But, given the choice between a team that puts (to reference Rich's post) 65 shots on us that are either ineffectual or blocked and a team that gets, say, about 20 of those between the dots, I'd rather play the shot dumpers.
And, small sample size: do remember that we played the whole game ahead, likely tolerating more shots, even though we know we shouldn't.
Still, like you, I'd prefer we fixed this shot problem, running back, as it does, to 2009.
Quote from: Scersk '97do remember that we played the whole game ahead, likely tolerating more shots, even though we know we shouldn't.
It was a 52:28 puck rag, beating the prior record of 40:49 in the 1997 ECAC F.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Scersk '97do remember that we played the whole game ahead, likely tolerating more shots, even though we know we shouldn't.
It was a 52:28 puck rag, beating the prior record of 40:49 in the 1997 ECAC F.
That whole year was an extended "puck rag," not that I minded... :-D
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: css228Quote from: Scersk '97Scoff if you want, but most of the UNO shots were from far out—the kind of stuff I expect Iles to nearly always handle. Reminded me of old timey games against Clarkson during the Mark Morris years. Push 'em outside and let them shoot all they want.
Which leads me to this gem (http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2013/07/19/shot-quality/). Simply put, getting out shot by 20 shots on goal a night is NOT conducive to winning a lot in the long term. (http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/4/4/4178716/why-possession-matters-a-visual-guide-to-fenwick)
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't like that we're getting outshot at all. But, given the choice between a team that puts (to reference Rich's post) 65 shots on us that are either ineffectual or blocked and a team that gets, say, about 20 of those between the dots, I'd rather play the shot dumpers.
And, small sample size: do remember that we played the whole game ahead, likely tolerating more shots, even though we know we shouldn't.
Still, like you, I'd prefer we fixed this shot problem, running back, as it does, to 2009.
I mean yes one weekend this year. But as you noted, this is a trend that's gone back a couple years. It was a major problem last year. You make a very good point about score effects, but given that we scored all of our Saturday goals on the power play, I don't even want to know what our 5 v. 5 numbers were. We were probably out shot even worse at even strength than as a whole. Look we won and that's what is important, because you don't get points for dominating possession in a loss, but we got lucky. This is not even close to a sustainable way to win. We need to be better fast if we don't want to have another year like last year.