A general thread for the conference in honor of the start of the (NC) season tonight (http://www.uscho.com/conference/ecac/).
RPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
Quote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
So, I read the Troy Record article. Did anybody see enough of the game to say whether it was all bad defense versus goaltending?
Attendance at BC for the RPI game was 3195. Conte Forum (hockey) capacity 7884, 8606 when Steve Donahue's basketball team plays. BC did have no classes Columbus Day Monday. But still: 4500 empty seats. Plenty of room for recruits to sit and not be crowded.
Quote from: billhowardAttendance at BC for the RPI game was 3195. Conte Forum (hockey) capacity 7884, 8606 when Steve Donahue's basketball team plays. BC did have no classes Columbus Day Monday. But still: 4500 empty seats. Plenty of room for recruits to sit and not be crowded.
Conte has to be the worst of the Boston-area rinks, right? Matthews is the best.
Quote from: WederQuote from: billhowardAttendance at BC for the RPI game was 3195. Conte Forum (hockey) capacity 7884, 8606 when Steve Donahue's basketball team plays. BC did have no classes Columbus Day Monday. But still: 4500 empty seats. Plenty of room for recruits to sit and not be crowded.
Conte has to be the worst of the Boston-area rinks, right? Matthews is the best.
Haven't been to Agganis, but the old order was: Matthews > Walter Brown > Bright > ... > Conte
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: WederQuote from: billhowardAttendance at BC for the RPI game was 3195. Conte Forum (hockey) capacity 7884, 8606 when Steve Donahue's basketball team plays. BC did have no classes Columbus Day Monday. But still: 4500 empty seats. Plenty of room for recruits to sit and not be crowded.
Conte has to be the worst of the Boston-area rinks, right? Matthews is the best.
Haven't been to Agganis, but the old order was: Matthews > Walter Brown > Bright > ... > Conte
Matthews is a good old traditional rink but, like any rink or stadium (e.g., Fenway Park) built 100 or so years ago, some of us don't fit in the seats.::worry::
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
So, I read the Troy Record article. Did anybody see enough of the game to say whether it was all bad defense versus goaltending?
I just listened on WRPI since it wasn't streamed, so this is really the announcers' viewpoints as interpreted by me. It was the defense, not Kasdorf, and can be more blamed on the forwards not doing their defensive job than the defensemen. Also IMHO (which of course is quite biased), BC benefited from having the previous day off while RPI had a game.
there doesn't seem to be an appropriate thread to post this, but does JMH intend to post his totally meaningless, early-year charts this year? It's always fun watching it slowly combine into a completely connected chart.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: WederQuote from: billhowardAttendance at BC for the RPI game was 3195. Conte Forum (hockey) capacity 7884, 8606 when Steve Donahue's basketball team plays. BC did have no classes Columbus Day Monday. But still: 4500 empty seats. Plenty of room for recruits to sit and not be crowded.
Conte has to be the worst of the Boston-area rinks, right? Matthews is the best.
Haven't been to Agganis, but the old order was: Matthews > Walter Brown > Bright > ... > Conte
Matthews is a good old traditional rink but, like any rink or stadium (e.g., Fenway Park) built 100 or so years ago, some of us don't fit in the seats.::worry::
Size matters, too. When you've got 8,000 seats, that's impressive. (So's 4,000 empty seats.) Albert Speer's architecture always had big to its credit.
Quote from: ursusminorthere doesn't seem to be an appropriate thread to post this, but does JMH intend to post his totally meaningless, early-year charts this year? It's always fun watching it slowly combine into a completely connected chart.
I appreciate the undeserved credit, but you're thinking of JTW.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
So, I read the Troy Record article. Did anybody see enough of the game to say whether it was all bad defense versus goaltending?
I just listened on WRPI since it wasn't streamed, so this is really the announcers' viewpoints as interpreted by me. It was the defense, not Kasdorf, and can be more blamed on the forwards not doing their defensive job than the defensemen. Also IMHO (which of course is quite biased), BC benefited from having the previous day off while RPI had a game.
This GIF says a lot.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LmgYQ59jFTw/UlsSwBw-3eI/AAAAAAAAAK4/uruIYC3OuMo/w640-h361-no/insta.gif)
Sure, Gaudreau's stick-handling make it look flashy, but I see a lot of flat feet on defense.
Quote from: billhowardSize matters, too.
To this point, Cornell is the tallest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-htavg.php) and the second heaviest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-wtavg.php).
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: ursusminorthere doesn't seem to be an appropriate thread to post this, but does JMH intend to post his totally meaningless, early-year charts this year? It's always fun watching it slowly combine into a completely connected chart.
I appreciate the undeserved credit, but you're thinking of JTW.
Oops!
Quote from: RichHQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
So, I read the Troy Record article. Did anybody see enough of the game to say whether it was all bad defense versus goaltending?
I just listened on WRPI since it wasn't streamed, so this is really the announcers' viewpoints as interpreted by me. It was the defense, not Kasdorf, and can be more blamed on the forwards not doing their defensive job than the defensemen. Also IMHO (which of course is quite biased), BC benefited from having the previous day off while RPI had a game.
This GIF says a lot.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LmgYQ59jFTw/UlsSwBw-3eI/AAAAAAAAAK4/uruIYC3OuMo/w640-h361-no/insta.gif)
Sure, Gaudreau's stick-handling make it look flashy, but I see a lot of flat feet on defense.
You're right, if the rest of the game was like this, you certainly can't blame the goalies. Three guys standing at the blue line, and then they don't even get back fast enough to pick up the trailer.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: TrotskyRPI gave up 7 goals on 23 shots (http://www.uscho.com/box/mens-hockey/2013/10/13/rensselaer-vs-boston-college/) to BC today.
That game officially ended at about 6 minutes into the second period. ::cry::
So, I read the Troy Record article. Did anybody see enough of the game to say whether it was all bad defense versus goaltending?
I just listened on WRPI since it wasn't streamed, so this is really the announcers' viewpoints as interpreted by me. It was the defense, not Kasdorf, and can be more blamed on the forwards not doing their defensive job than the defensemen. Also IMHO (which of course is quite biased), BC benefited from having the previous day off while RPI had a game.
This GIF says a lot.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LmgYQ59jFTw/UlsSwBw-3eI/AAAAAAAAAK4/uruIYC3OuMo/w640-h361-no/insta.gif)
Sure, Gaudreau's stick-handling make it look flashy, but I see a lot of flat feet on defense.
First of all, those monkeys could have at least deinterlaced the video before making a GIF out of it. Good lord.
But yeah, this is awful defense. I imagine RPI #12 is used to playing against beer league teams if he thinks he can stand still and poke check a BC forward like that.
Quote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: billhowardSize matters, too.
To this point, Cornell is the tallest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-htavg.php) and the second heaviest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-wtavg.php).
Yes but who will be the tallest and heaviest in April?
Quote from: martyQuote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: billhowardSize matters, too.
To this point, Cornell is the tallest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-htavg.php) and the second heaviest team (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/almanac/funfacts-wtavg.php).
Yes but who will be the tallest and heaviest in April?
Us, after the freshmen start getting some Hot Truck in them.
A good a place as any for this.
ECAC Preview Capsules (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/10/17_ecac_team_preview_capsules.php)
Ahem. In addition to the one "Schaffer,"
QuoteStrength: The so called 'sacred seven', which is the six defensemen and goalie, should be the strength of the Big Red this season. Despite losing D'Agostino and Birch on defense, junior Joakim Noah leads a talented group on the blue line. Andy Iles will also return for his senior season between the pipes.
I love that the Chicago Bulls keep lending us one of their stars on the weekends. This is probably the third time I've seen/heard this.
Jason Kasdorf out with a shoulder injury.
Troy Record (http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20131017/kasie-less-rpi-has-confidence-in-diebold)
Quinnipiac jumped to third in the RPICH after the shutout on 11/2. ECAC teams in the current RPICH:
03. Quinnipiac (8-1-0)
10. RPI (5-2-1)
15. Brown (2-1-1)
17. Clarkson (7-2-1)
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19. Cornell (3-1-0)
22. Yale (2-1-1)
25. SLU (4-2-2)
27. Union (3-2-2)
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29. Harvard (2-1-1)
33. Colgate (3-5-1)
42. Princeton (1-3-0)
56. Dartmouth (0-4-0)
Quenneville leaves Q (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2013/11/5/5069124/nhl-columbus-blue-jackets-draft-pick-peter-quenneville-leaving-quinnipiac-brandon-wheat-kings-whl). Not sure if that will have much effect this year, but they'll need to find others to replace the offense they'll lose next year as the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas graduate (Peca has another year, unfortunately).
Quote from: TrotskyQuenneville leaves Q (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2013/11/5/5069124/nhl-columbus-blue-jackets-draft-pick-peter-quenneville-leaving-quinnipiac-brandon-wheat-kings-whl). Not sure if that will have much effect this year, but they'll need to find others to replace the offense they'll lose next year as the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas graduate (Peca has another year, unfortunately).
Doesn't Samuels-Thomas have another year too?
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuenneville leaves Q (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2013/11/5/5069124/nhl-columbus-blue-jackets-draft-pick-peter-quenneville-leaving-quinnipiac-brandon-wheat-kings-whl). Not sure if that will have much effect this year, but they'll need to find others to replace the offense they'll lose next year as the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas graduate (Peca has another year, unfortunately).
Doesn't Samuels-Thomas have another year too?
He's listed as a senior, but since he transferred he may. I *thought* he had transferred as a junior and this would be his fourth year of eligibility, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuenneville leaves Q (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2013/11/5/5069124/nhl-columbus-blue-jackets-draft-pick-peter-quenneville-leaving-quinnipiac-brandon-wheat-kings-whl). Not sure if that will have much effect this year, but they'll need to find others to replace the offense they'll lose next year as the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas graduate (Peca has another year, unfortunately).
Doesn't Samuels-Thomas have another year too?
He's listed as a senior, but since he transferred he may. I *thought* he had transferred as a junior and this would be his fourth year of eligibility, but I could be wrong.
Samuels-Thomas played two full years at Bowling Green before transferring to Quinnipiac. This is his last year.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyQuenneville leaves Q (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/ecac/2013/11/5/5069124/nhl-columbus-blue-jackets-draft-pick-peter-quenneville-leaving-quinnipiac-brandon-wheat-kings-whl). Not sure if that will have much effect this year, but they'll need to find others to replace the offense they'll lose next year as the Jones brothers and Samuels-Thomas graduate (Peca has another year, unfortunately).
Doesn't Samuels-Thomas have another year too?
He's listed as a senior, but since he transferred he may. I *thought* he had transferred as a junior and this would be his fourth year of eligibility, but I could be wrong.
Samuels-Thomas played two full years at Bowling Green before transferring to Quinnipiac. This is his last year.
Thanks. I thought it had just been one year for some reason.
REALLY interesting. Loved this chart.
What the hell is Notre Dame feeding their kids?!
(Or do they have a gigantic 300-lb dude?)
Quote from: BMacREALLY interesting. Loved this chart.
What the hell is Notre Dame feeding their kids?!
(Or do they have a gigantic 300-lb dude?)
A freshman goaltender who is 6'5" and weighs 233 is only outweighed by a 6'4" 234 lb defensemen. Maybe they're trying the "wedge a fat-kid in net" gambit. They only have 2 players under 188 lbs, and they are both 5' 9" (165 & 175)
Ehhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?). I believe Baby was about 225 at the same height and he was definitely long and lean and could have put on 15-20 lbs. and still been unfat. Semi-related, I'm realizing I need to start watching and learning more about more recent Cornell players in order to bring my frame of reference more up to date...
Quote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?). I believe Baby was about 225 at the same height and he was definitely long and lean and could have put on 15-20 lbs. and still been unfat. Semi-related, I'm realizing I need to start watching and learning more about more recent Cornell players in order to bring my frame of reference more up to date...
Good guess! A game program from his senior year lists Baby at 6'5", 235 lbs., outweighed only by his co-captain chubster, the 6'4", 240 lb. Doug Murray.
Given their proximity and the events of 2012, I guess we have to put QU and YU as one of the hottest rivalries now, regardless of Yale's opinion.
From http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
QuoteA quick glance at StubHub shows tickets for the rematch of the 2013 national hockey championship between No. 9 Yale and No. 5 Quinnipiac Saturday night at TD Bank Sports Center are running from $150 to $200 for the best seats. Even general admission is going for $50. Contrast this to a few football tickets between No. 20 Louisville-UConn at Rentschler Field Friday night going for as little as $2 on StubHub and a whole bunch more are going for $5 to $12.
"I'm hearing rumors about how much they're going for online. There are some college kids who got their tickets and are making some pretty good money. I was told we hold 1,000 tickets for students for that game. They went on sale and they had 3,000 hits in four minutes and crashed the system."
I would like to point out to the writer that "seeing a price on StubHub" and "actually being sold at that price" are two completely different things. Anyway, I'm guessing those 1,000 student tickets are free, so the kids are making a buck regardless of the price.
I recall eBay listings and offers in front of Lynah for Harvard @ Cornell games breaking $100 in the late-90s and early-00s. Didn't we even get familiar with the NYS scalping laws on this board in that era?
Quote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
Quote from: RichHQuote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
So what they're saying is he's 150 at 5'8" (sigh, I remember when I weighed that...), which really means he's 150 at 5'5".
Quote from: RichHQuote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
Doesn't "mixup" imply that the Cornell fans thought it was pronounced that way but were wrong, rather than the more likely explanation that they just didn't care?
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: RichHQuote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
Doesn't "mixup" imply that the Cornell fans thought it was pronounced that way but were wrong, rather than the more likely explanation that they just didn't care?
I think his tweet reveals that he has a sense of humor. Not every player on every opposing team is a dumbass.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Josh '99Quote from: RichHQuote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
Doesn't "mixup" imply that the Cornell fans thought it was pronounced that way but were wrong, rather than the more likely explanation that they just didn't care?
I think his tweet reveals that he has a sense of humor. Not every player on every opposing team is a dumbass.
I believe it's pronounced Doo-MAH.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: RichHQuote from: JerseygirlEhhhhhhhhhhh, I wouldn't call recruiting a 6'5"/233 goaltender wedging a fat kid in net (well, I would, if I were employing a dry sense of humor I guess?).
Fine, let's talk light.
QuoteIf you think Anas is light at 150 — and he could be the lightest to actually play Division I this season — Pecknold says you should have seen him when he recruited him as a senior in high school. "Maybe, 140 pounds," said Pecknold, pausing. "I might be high. You better ask him. I know he wasn't highly recruited because of his size." "Senior year, high school?" Anas said. "Oh, 130 pounds. I tried not to let that faze me."
And the postscript quotes a tweet from Anas:
QuoteNov. 2: "Despite what Cornell cheering section was saying my last name isn't pronounced anus. #classicmixup."
http://www.courant.com/sports/hc-jacobs-col-1107-20131106,0,3160416.column
Doesn't "mixup" imply that the Cornell fans thought it was pronounced that way but were wrong, rather than the more likely explanation that they just didn't care?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
RPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Quote from: martyRPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Come on Marty, Ken Schott reported that a day earlier. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/nov/06/appert-says-rpi-goalie-kasdorf-likely-to-have-seas/):-D
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: martyRPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Come on Marty, Ken Schott reported that a day earlier. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/nov/06/appert-says-rpi-goalie-kasdorf-likely-to-have-seas/):-D
And if my newspaper wasn't under the forcythia I wouldn't have been a day late posting the TU article myself.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: martyRPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Come on Marty, Ken Schott reported that a day earlier. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/nov/06/appert-says-rpi-goalie-kasdorf-likely-to-have-seas/):-D
Quote from: Ken ShottKasdorf played in RPI's first two games this season, going 1-1 with a 3.49 GAA, a .786 save percentage and one shutout. The Engineers will apply a medical redshirt for Kasdorf, which will mean he still has three years of college eligibility.
Seth really thinks this Winnipeg Jets future ace is going to spend 5 years in Troy?!?
Quote from: martyAnd if my newspaper wasn't under the forcythia I wouldn't have been a day late posting the TU article myself.
What is this "news paper" you speak of?
Quote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: martyRPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Come on Marty, Ken Schott reported that a day earlier. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/nov/06/appert-says-rpi-goalie-kasdorf-likely-to-have-seas/):-D
And if my newspaper wasn't under the forcythia I wouldn't have been a day late posting the TU article myself.
Forsythia isn't leafed out this time of year. No excuse.
Quote from: JerseygirlQuote from: martyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: martyRPI's Kasdorf likely out for season.
Times Union 11-7-13 (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-goalie-could-be-done-for-the-year-4962309.php)
Come on Marty, Ken Schott reported that a day earlier. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/nov/06/appert-says-rpi-goalie-kasdorf-likely-to-have-seas/):-D
And if my newspaper wasn't under the forcythia I wouldn't have been a day late posting the TU article myself.
Forsythia isn't leafed out this time of year. No excuse.
Au contraire. Many retain their leaves until late fall.
My dad worked with John Forsyth, a descendant of the guy for whom forsythia is named (William, I think?).
Carry on.
Quote from: RobbMy dad worked with John Forsyth, a descendant of the guy for whom forsythia is named (William, I think?).
Carry on.
Which John? That whole family is fascinating.
Princeton does the ECAC a solid and wins at Quinnipiac tonight, snapping their 13-game unbeaten streak.
In related news, UNO swept #8 Miami over the weekend. Since we swept them during the first weekend of our season, UNO has gone 6-2, with wins over Denver, #8 Miami, #15 North Dakota, and #5 Michigan -- the two losses were to North Dakota & Michigan. Next weekend's opponent, currently unranked BU got a win & tie over those #15 Nodak characters. Possible future opponent Maine, crushed #7 BC 5-1. Princeton, currently in 10th place out of 12 in ECACHL, beat #4 Q (currently in 1st place in ECACHL). RIP split a weekend series with Merchhurst, as did St. L. with RIT.
If we take care of business against Niagara on Tuesday, this week's rankings should make the PR group at the World's Most Famous Arena happy.
N-I-A-G-A-R-A
Quote from: RichHN-I-A-G-A-R-A
But said "nye-AGG-gruh," like but unlike "Cuh[not Caye!]-YOO-guh."
"Hey Vern, you ever been to see them Nye-AGG-arr-uh Falls?"
"Nope, Earl, I never been out of Yates County."
Quote from: SwampyIn related news, UNO swept #8 Miami over the weekend. Since we swept them during the first weekend of our season, UNO has gone 6-2, with wins over Denver, #8 Miami, #15 North Dakota, and #5 Michigan -- the two losses were to North Dakota & Michigan. Next weekend's opponent, currently unranked BU got a win & tie over those #15 Nodak characters. Possible future opponent Maine, crushed #7 BC 5-1. Princeton, currently in 10th place out of 12 in ECACHL, beat #4 Q (currently in 1st place in ECACHL). RIP split a weekend series with Merchhurst, as did St. L. with RIT.
If we take care of business against Niagara on Tuesday, this week's rankings should make the PR group at the World's Most Famous Arena happy.
Not that I would normally be looking at Pairwise in Novemeber but the rankings are part of the CHN app. And I was surprised we weren't a little higher. Looking closer I don't even see UNO. Something isn't right. USCHO doesn't have Pairwise up but they have RPI and their numbers are much different. Edit: CHN website has different Pairwise and RPI than the app. RPI appears to match USCHO.
Quote from: nyc94Quote from: SwampyIn related news, UNO swept #8 Miami over the weekend. Since we swept them during the first weekend of our season, UNO has gone 6-2, with wins over Denver, #8 Miami, #15 North Dakota, and #5 Michigan -- the two losses were to North Dakota & Michigan. Next weekend's opponent, currently unranked BU got a win & tie over those #15 Nodak characters. Possible future opponent Maine, crushed #7 BC 5-1. Princeton, currently in 10th place out of 12 in ECACHL, beat #4 Q (currently in 1st place in ECACHL). RIP split a weekend series with Merchhurst, as did St. L. with RIT.
If we take care of business against Niagara on Tuesday, this week's rankings should make the PR group at the World's Most Famous Arena happy.
Not that I would normally be looking at Pairwise in Novemeber but the rankings are part of the CHN app. And I was surprised we weren't a little higher. Looking closer I don't even see UNO. Something isn't right. USCHO doesn't have Pairwise up but they have RPI and their numbers are much different. Edit: CHN website has different Pairwise and RPI than the app. RPI appears to match USCHO.
Sorry. The PWR script wasn't running correctly. It's been updated and should continue to going forward. Having said that, it doesn't take into account the changes made to Pairwise calculations for this year yet. Waiting on JTW for that (hint, hint).
It's still early and there might be changes to the calculations that might affect how this is going to pan out, but ECAC has had 5 teams in the top 16 for a few weeks already. If the conference could hold it together through the holiday weeks and not lose too many NC games, we might see 5 ECAC teams in the playoffs, which I'd guess would be the first time in a very long time.
Quote from: ajh258It's still early and there might be changes to the calculations that might affect how this is going to pan out, but ECAC has had 5 teams in the top 16 for a few weeks already. If the conference could hold it together through the holiday weeks and not lose too many NC games, we might see 5 ECAC teams in the playoffs, which I'd guess would be the first time in a very long time.
As best I can tell, it never happened (the TBRW page I'm going by (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_Tournament/ecac_NCAA_Appearances.htm) is missing some data, e.g. UVM in 1997). There were 4 ECAC representatives each year from 81-84, but then the Great Divorce happened and it's been 2 or 3 each year except 2001 and 2004, when only the autobid made it.
Quote from: RobbAs best I can tell, it never happened (the TBRW page I'm going by (http://www.tbrw.info/?/ncaa_Tournament/ecac_NCAA_Appearances.htm) is missing some data, e.g. UVM in 1997).
Corrected. Thank you!
Quote from: ajh258It's still early and there might be changes to the calculations that might affect how this is going to pan out, but ECAC has had 5 teams in the top 16 for a few weeks already. If the conference could hold it together through the holiday weeks and not lose too many NC games, we might see 5 ECAC teams in the playoffs, which I'd guess would be the first time in a very long time.
I have a feeling we said this last year and it didn't go so well.
You can track interconference record here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). ECAC is just slightly behind Hockey East in winning percentage.
Quote from: nyc94I have a feeling we said this last year and it didn't go so well.
You can track interconference record here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). ECAC is just slightly behind Hockey East in winning percentage.
Gotta happen eventually.
Boy, Atlantic Hockey is awful. We need to beat NU.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nyc94I have a feeling we said this last year and it didn't go so well.
You can track interconference record here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). ECAC is just slightly behind Hockey East in winning percentage.
Gotta happen eventually.
Boy, Atlantic Hockey is awful. We need to beat NU.
The ECAC appears to be on an upswing. The WCHA sheds most of it's top teams to the Big Ten and the NCHC. And we *still* have a losing record against them. Argh!
Quote from: TrotskyBoy, Atlantic Hockey is awful. We need to beat NU.
(http://www.scifilists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/its-a-tarp-719413.jpg)
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyBoy, Atlantic Hockey is awful. We need to beat NU.
(http://www.scifilists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/its-a-tarp-719413.jpg)
+1
Iles GOTY. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/Weekly_Awards/20132611_M_Weekly_Awards)
Quote from: Jim HylaIles GOTY. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/Weekly_Awards/20132611_M_Weekly_Awards)
GOTW.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaIles GOTY. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/Weekly_Awards/20132611_M_Weekly_Awards)
GOTW.
Defeatist
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: Jim HylaIles GOTY. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/Weekly_Awards/20132611_M_Weekly_Awards)
GOTW.
Defeatist
Let's not make him goalie of the woof.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nyc94I have a feeling we said this last year and it didn't go so well.
You can track interconference record here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php). ECAC is just slightly behind Hockey East in winning percentage.
Gotta happen eventually.
Boy, Atlantic Hockey is awful. We need to beat NU.
Harvard actually helping by beating UNH 6-3.
St. Lawrence beat North Dakota 5-2
Michigan State beat Princeton 4-1
There are zero ECAC players on the American (http://www.uscho.com/2013/12/04/slew-of-ncaa-players-named-to-preliminary-u-s-world-junior-roster/) or Canadian (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/canada-announces-2014-world-junior-selection-camp-roster-1.2448033) World Junior rosters.
No word on South Africa or Singapore.
RIP resuscitated in the first period, leading deerticks 2-0 and with a 10-2 sog advantage.
Rpitv.org
Brown 2 Harvard 0
Dartmouth 3 Yale 0
Both early 2nd period
Good:
Dartmouth (2-6) 4 Yale (3-2-2) 1
RPI (2-3-3) 3 Quinnipiac (6-1-2) 3
Bad:
Clarkson (5-2) 5 St. Lawrence (2-3-2) 4
Union (6-1) 3 Princeton (2-7) 0
Indifferent:
Brown (2-4-1) 2 Harvard (2-6-1) 1
Quote from: TrotskyGood:
Dartmouth (2-6) 4 Yale (3-2-2) 1
RPI (2-3-3) 3 Quinnipiac (6-1-2) 3
Bad:
Clarkson (5-2) 5 St. Lawrence (2-3-2) 4
Union (6-1) 3 Princeton (2-7) 0
Indifferent:
Brown (2-4-1) 2 Harvard (2-6-1) 1
Indifferent to Harvard losing?
Quote from: DafatoneIndifferent to Harvard losing?
I'm not indifferent to them playing Yale tonight. Go Harvard.
Great goal by RPI's Higgs against Q this past Friday. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpjpWGWTF0&sns=tw) And great RPI TV coverage, of course.
(Sigh) Wish we could get guys like that...
Quote from: TimV(Sigh) Wish we could get guys like that...
... who don't get called for elbowing or cross-checking en route to the net. Damn, that was pretty.
With a name like Higgs at an engineering school, fans must be working OT to work a pun around bosun.
And that's why they always teach you to play the man, not the puck.
Quote from: Jim HylaGreat goal by RPI's Higgs against Q this past Friday. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpjpWGWTF0&sns=tw) And great RPI TV coverage, of course.
Looks like against P, not Q. Gotta mind your P's and Q's, Jim.::bolt::
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaGreat goal by RPI's Higgs against Q this past Friday. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpjpWGWTF0&sns=tw) And great RPI TV coverage, of course.
Looks like against P, not Q. Gotta mind your P's and Q's, Jim.::bolt::
True, and it was Saturday not Friday.::doh::At least the goal was nice.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Jim HylaGreat goal by RPI's Higgs against Q this past Friday. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpjpWGWTF0&sns=tw) And great RPI TV coverage, of course.
Looks like against P, not Q. Gotta mind your P's and Q's, Jim.::bolt::
Thanks Al. I was wondering how I missed this goal but the answer is quite simple. I was in NYC on Saturday not in Houston.
Dartmouth almost caught Union napping tonight, leading 2-1 in the third before giving up the tying and winning goals in the last 11 minutes.
Union now at 8-1-0 and the clear leader in the conference going into break.
1 .889 Union
2 .750 Clarkson
3 .700 Quinnipiac
4 .611 Colgate
5 .562 Yale
6 .556 Cornell
There are several interesting NC games this acarnelian weekend:
(All times Eastern)
Friday
7:00 Denver at RPI
8:30 Union at St. Cloud
Saturday
4:00 UMass at Colgate
7:00 Denver at RPI
7:00 St. Lawrence at Vermont
8:00 Union at St. Cloud
Sunday
2:00 UMass at Colgate
Union knocks off top ranked St. Cloud 4-1. St. Cloud falls from the top of the Pairwise and is replaced by Providence.
Quote from: nyc94Union knocks off top ranked St. Cloud 4-1. St. Cloud falls from the top of the Pairwise and is replaced by Providence.
And Providence is led by former Union coach Nate Leaman.::worry::
Quote from: martyQuote from: nyc94Union knocks off top ranked St. Cloud 4-1. St. Cloud falls from the top of the Pairwise and is replaced by Providence.
And Providence is led by former Union coach Nate Leaman.::worry::
That is primarily why I found it of interest. That and when was the last time Providence was at the top of anything?
Quote from: nyc94Quote from: martyQuote from: nyc94Union knocks off top ranked St. Cloud 4-1. St. Cloud falls from the top of the Pairwise and is replaced by Providence.
And Providence is led by former Union coach Nate Leaman.::worry::
That is primarily why I found it of interest. That and when was the last time Providence was at the top of anything?
The top of a list of largest cities in Rhode Island?
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: nyc94Quote from: martyQuote from: nyc94Union knocks off top ranked St. Cloud 4-1. St. Cloud falls from the top of the Pairwise and is replaced by Providence.
And Providence is led by former Union coach Nate Leaman.::worry::
That is primarily why I found it of interest. That and when was the last time Providence was at the top of anything?
The top of a list of largest cities in Rhode Island?
The Providence women's cross country team won the NCAA title a few weeks ago.
Quote from: nyc94when was the last time Providence was at the top of anything?
Not the top, but sooooooooo close (http://www.wpri.com/news/local/providence/allstate-providence-drives-3rd-worst-in-the-us)...
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nyc94when was the last time Providence was at the top of anything?
Not the top, but sooooooooo close (http://www.wpri.com/news/local/providence/allstate-providence-drives-3rd-worst-in-the-us)...
"However, Allstate says data was not available for Massachusetts drivers."
Today's poll has Providence 5th with two first place votes.
For those who can catch it on Fox College Sports Central, Colgate just scored to take the lead 2-1 over Minnesota with 3:30 left in the 2nd at the Mariucci Classic.
Colgate loses the lead on a PPG for the Goofers but wins the chance to advance in a shootout 2-1!!!::popcorn::
Stay tuned tomorrow as they take on #2 Ferris State.
I don't know if that game will be broadcast- before the shootout the announcers said Minnesota would be broadcast tomorrow night on the Big Ten Network. If so, that would be the consolation game - against RPI. I would have trouble rooting for that team, but it would be neat to have Minnesota be Oh-for 2014 against the ECAC.
Quote from: TimVI don't know if that game will be broadcast- before the shootout the announcers said Minnesota would be broadcast tomorrow night on the Big Ten Network. If so, that would be the consolation game - against RPI. I would have trouble rooting for that team, but it would be neat to have Minnesota be Oh-for 2014 against the ECAC.
RPI pulled the same scheduling in their now defunct holiday tournament. Many of us came for the early game and left before RPI finished the nightcap. If RPI gets lit up tonight on the Big10 Network they shouldn't complain.
Quote from: martyColgate loses the lead on a PPG for the Goofers but wins the chance to advance in a shootout 2-1!!!::popcorn::
Stay tuned tomorrow as they take on #2 Ferris State.
3-0 Colgate win
CHN PWR now has Cornell tied for 9th (Quinnipiac 6th, Union tied for 7th, Clarkson 12th).
Harvard beats BU 7-4
Minnesota beats RPI 3-0 6-2
Quote from: nyc94Harvard beats BU 7-4
Minnesota beats RPI 3-0
Actual Minnesota score was 6-2. National leading scorer Ryan Haggerty kept off scoresheet for whole tournament when his only goal was disallowed because a penalty was called barely before the shot. That would have made the score 4-3 but UM scored on the ensuing PP to put the game away. Tune in to the RPI thread on USCHO to read installment #346 of the ongoing saga of "Refs of the World Conspire Against RPI."
Quote from: TimVActual Minnesota score was 6-2.
Huh. My source was way off.
Harvard, who I hear tell sucks, did the conference a favor last night and tied Quinnipiac with an extra attacker goal. The Skating Deerticks actually look mortal at the moment. After starting the conference schedule 6-0-1 they have gone 0-2-2.
Quote from: TrotskyHarvard, who I hear tell sucks, did the conference a favor last night and tied Quinnipiac with an extra attacker goal. The Skating Deerticks actually look mortal at the moment. After starting the conference schedule 6-0-1 they have gone 0-2-2.
RPI will make them look invincible again on Saturday. :(
Quote from: TrotskyThe Skating Deerticks actually look mortal at the moment. After starting the conference schedule 6-0-1 they have gone 0-2-2.
The quality of their play has declined after they outshot Sacred Heart 25-0 in the second period of their 5-0 victory a few weeks ago. The Deerticks were lucky to beat Maine last weekend, 2-1, on a last-minute goal. Too bad we don't play them soon. They'll probably have their game back in gear by the time we see them again.
Free video of Union @ Qpac now underway. No score at the four minute mark.
Quote from: martyFree video of Union @ Qpac now underway. No score at the four minute mark.
Why you no linky linky?
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: martyFree video of Union @ Qpac now underway. No score at the four minute mark.
Why you no linky linky?
Click on the link to YouTube Here (http://www.quinnipiacbobcats.com/sports/mice/2013-14/releases/20140109axbcro)
Free YouTube video of the deerticks hosting RPI here at 7 tonight.
Click on the YouTube link on the page linked here (http://www.quinnipiacbobcats.com/sports/mice/2013-14/releases/20140109axbcro)
Thank you - Marty - appreciate that link.
Union with 23 shots in the second en route to a 3-0 shutout of Princeton; they are Q are looking pretty formidable.
Brown tied BC 3-3
Dartmouth loses to UNH 4-2
Meanwhile NBC Sports is sticking with Penn v. Princeton basketball past 8 PM. Tied at 74 with 19 seconds to play.
Edit: Penn won 77-74 which based on their records is quite an upset.
RPI up 2-1 in Albany vs. Union.
Now final.
Scrums after the final with Bennett going after Alpert. ?!?
And after the refs were able to herd the Union players and cautiously tried to run the handshake line, Bennett pulled his team off the ice. They were also no shows for the post game Mayor's Cup awards.
I have no idea who instigated the fighting at game end and I also have no opinion concerning whether there was dirty play during the game that led to the fighting. I'm sure Ed Weaver will fill us in. ::rolleyes::
It will be interesting to see what type of penalties are assessed to Bennett and also I'm guessing his mea culpas could rival Chirs Christie's.
Quote from: martyScrums after the final with Bennett going after Alpert. ?!?
And after the refs were able to herd the Union players and cautiously tried to run the handshake line, Bennett pulled his team off the ice. They were also no shows for the post game Mayor's Cup awards.
I have no idea who instigated the fighting at game end and I also have no opinion concerning whether there was dirty play during the game that led to the fighting. I'm sure Ed Weaver will fill us in. ::rolleyes::
It will be interesting to see what type of penalties are assessed to Bennett and also I'm guessing his mea culpas could rival Chirs Christie's.
I have no idea what the ECAC will do, Ken Schott will tell us, but the box score looks good.
-- 3rd --
Rensselaer 20:00 Higgs, Brock: FACEMASKING MAJOR 5 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Higgs, Brock: GAME MISCONDUCT GAMEMISC 10 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Haggerty, Ryan: ROUGHING MINOR 2 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Haggerty, Ryan: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT 10MINMISC 10 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Dolan, Bo: ROUGHING MINOR 2 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Dolan, Bo: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT 10MINMISC 10 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Zalewski, Mike: FIGHTING MAJOR 5 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Zalewski, Mike: DISQUALIFICATION MATCH 10 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Curadi, Luke: FIGHTING MAJOR 5 minutes
Rensselaer 20:00 Curadi, Luke: DISQUALIFICATION MATCH 10 minutes
Union 20:00 Mat Bodie: ROUGHING MINOR 2 minutes
Union 20:00 Mat Bodie: FACEMASKING MAJOR 5 minutes
Union 20:00 Mat Bodie: DISQUALIFICATION MATCH 10 minutes
Union 20:00 Daniel Carr: ROUGHING MINOR 2 minutes
Union 20:00 Daniel Carr: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT 10MINMISC 10 minutes
Union 20:00 Mike Vecchione: ROUGHING MINOR 2 minutes
Union 20:00 Mike Vecchione: 10-MINUTE MISCONDUCT 10MINMISC 10 minutes
Union 20:00 Eli Lichtenwald: FIGHTING MAJOR 5 minutes
Union 20:00 Eli Lichtenwald: DISQUALIFICATION MATCH 10 minutes
Quote from: Jim HylaI have no idea what the ECAC will do, Ken Schott will tell us, but the box score looks good.
Ken Schott (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/jan/26/union-rpi-mayors-cup-postgame-report-embarrassing-/) says
QuoteI don't know who started it because I was sending a Tweet out with the result, and that is when all hell broke loose.
and
QuoteI just thought of this. Both teams are probably staying at the Best Western in Canton next weekend. Someone alert the authorities!
and
QuoteAnd there will be more punishment handed out. Don't be surprised if Bennett gets some time off from not only the league, but from the school. He was out of control. If he hadn't been held back, he could have done some damage to Appert.
QuoteThat is all from the Times Union Center. I'm exhausted. I'll be back with you Monday with my College Hockey Slap Schotts blog (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/), or maybe sooner if their is news of suspensions.
Video of the RPI-Union line brawl, including Appert and Bennett grabbing at each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-AzBqb1h1g&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: David HardingKen Schott (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/jan/26/union-rpi-mayors-cup-postgame-report-embarrassing-/) says QuoteI don't know who started it because I was sending a Tweet out with the result, and that is when all hell broke loose.
.
I likewise missed the first of the fist-a-cuffs as I was posting a message on my favorite Internet site.::burnout::
From Channel 6 WRGB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq5Uy7CR6VM)
Quote from: sah67Video of the RPI-Union line brawl, including Appert and Bennett grabbing at each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-AzBqb1h1g&feature=youtu.be
Obviously not knowing if anything happened before it but from this video the crosscheck to the facemask by the Union player at the faceoff seemed to spark things off at that moment.
If I was running things Bennett would be starting his golf season early, say Monday.
Quote from: MattSQuote from: sah67Video of the RPI-Union line brawl, including Appert and Bennett grabbing at each other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-AzBqb1h1g&feature=youtu.be
Obviously not knowing if anything happened before it but from this video the crosscheck to the facemask by the Union player at the faceoff seemed to spark things off at that moment.
If I was running things Bennett would be starting his golf season early, say Monday.
Yes, that's wonderful Mat Bodie. At least he got a DQ, even if it wasn't because of that.
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all that and no goalie fight? what the hell?
Quote from: ugarteall that and no goalie fight? what the hell?
You forget, Appert is a goalie.
Bennett suspended by Union - Stay tuned for ECAC reaction (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/jan/26/union-suspends-coach-rick-bennett-two-games/)
Like I said Ken Schott will tell us. Union suspends coach Rick Bennett two games (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2014/jan/26/union-suspends-coach-rick-bennett-two-games/)
edit:I can't type fast enough.:-D
Two more by the ECAC and then the suspension sounds about right to me.
Dammit, why couldn't we be playing that pair next weekend!
Quote from: French RageDammit, why couldn't we be playing that pair next weekend!
I was just about to say - we should schedule future Union/RPI games the week right after the Mayor's Cup.
So what exactly happens when a coach is suspended? Does that mean he doesn't go to the rink, run practices, scout film, recruit?
Quote from: TimVSo what exactly happens when a coach is suspended? Does that mean he doesn't go to the rink, run practices, scout film, recruit?
I think you have summed it up pretty well unless of course the coach is Jack Parker in which case you coach from the press box. (http://www.uscho.com/2000/02/23/the-parker-brouhaha/)
In all honesty, I don't know the answer to your question, Tim, but I apparently can't get Parker out of my head.::smashfreak::
I just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.
If Union is serious about it, it would mean absolutely no contact with any player or coach from now until those two games have passed. However, my guess is it will mean Bennett won't be behind the bench for two games.
Quote from: TimVI just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.
So far, it's just an employer (Union) taking disciplinary action against its own employee, so they can pretty much dictate whatever terms they want. If the league/NCAA steps in with any additional/concurrent punishment, then there is surely some official definition of what "suspended" means and what is and isn't allowed (such as coaching from the press box).
Via Ken Schott, video from Chris Brunner, the former news director at Capital News 9 (now Time Warner Cable News). It shows the end of the game thru the RPI team picture.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Go37npwiuQ[/video]
Quote from: RobbQuote from: TimVI just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.
So far, it's just an employer (Union) taking disciplinary action against its own employee, so they can pretty much dictate whatever terms they want. If the league/NCAA steps in with any additional/concurrent punishment, then there is surely some official definition of what "suspended" means and what is and isn't allowed (such as coaching from the press box).
According to a blog written by Mike Eldelbes the Union suspension does not include running of practice this week. So Bennett can still do that just not coach at the games. If true it's pathetic.
Quote from: MattSAccording to a blog written by Mike Eldelbes the Union suspension does not include running of practice this week. So Bennett can still do that just not coach at the games. If true it's pathetic.
When a player is suspended is he barred from practice?
Quote from: MattSQuote from: RobbQuote from: TimVI just want to know that it's NOT just a matter of making the trip to the games next weekend.
So far, it's just an employer (Union) taking disciplinary action against its own employee, so they can pretty much dictate whatever terms they want. If the league/NCAA steps in with any additional/concurrent punishment, then there is surely some official definition of what "suspended" means and what is and isn't allowed (such as coaching from the press box).
According to a blog written by Mike Eldelbes the Union suspension does not include running of practice this week. So Bennett can still do that just not coach at the games. If true it's pathetic.
First, it's E
idelbes, from the old INCH, and here's the link. (http://inchwriters.com/author/eidelbes/) Interesting post-column comments, trying to blame the victims. I'm amused how they complain about RPI leaving the bench, they did just win the cup, and Alpert on the ice, he is the winning coach and seemed to initially try and calm things. Oh well, viewpoint depends upon your glasses.
Well, if the thread has come to the point of correcting spelling, it's "Appert." Whew, just cleared the shark....
Quote from: Robbit's "Appert."
(http://muskmellon.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/herb-alpert.jpg)Forgivable.
I'm about to ::deadhorse::
The Horse (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,189707,189707#msg-189707)
Actions have consequences. So does lack of action. The number of after the final horn incidents is disgusting. A week ago it was the blindsiding of Cole Bardreau and now we have the embarrassment in Albany.
Has anyone else thought of forfeiting games as a solution? I don't think this would be simple. I wouldn't want to punish St. Lawrence or Clarkson (Union and RPI are there next week) for Union and RPI's shenanigans. But a forfeit of an upcoming home game would tend to put a damper on this trend. Perhaps a draconian punishment would send the message that I think is long overdue.
Quote from: RobbWell, if the thread has come to the point of correcting spelling, it's "Appert." Whew, just cleared the shark....
Sorry, I didn't mean to be mean, just that if someone was trying to find the blog, then correct spelling would help. I accept the Herb Alpert referenceand correction.::twak::
Quote from: martyI'm about to ::deadhorse::
The Horse (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,189707,189707#msg-189707)
Actions have consequences. So does lack of action. The number of after the final horn incidents is disgusting. A week ago it was the blindsiding of Cole Bardreau and now we have the embarrassment in Albany.
Has anyone else thought of forfeiting games as a solution? I don't think this would be simple. I wouldn't want to punish St. Lawrence or Clarkson (Union and RPI are there next week) for Union and RPI's shenanigans. But a forfeit of an upcoming home game would tend to put a damper on this trend. Perhaps a draconian punishment would send the message that I think is long overdue.
Forfeiting games seems like a bit of overkill. Instructing the refs to issue DQs in these situations and backing it with increased suspensions from the league office seems the right approach. Seriously punish the players who commit these offenses.
Quote from: martyQuote from: ugarteall that and no goalie fight? what the hell?
You forget, Appert is a goalie.
Appert would never mess up his hair.
RPI blog Without a Peer on what happened in Albany on Saturday http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?106432-Rep-Retirement-Lodge-171-On-Turkeys&p=5867623#post5867623.
http://blog.timesunion.com/hockey/ecac-levies-additional-suspensions-to-players/17085/
No additional suspension for Bennett. Mat Bodie gets an extra game suspension in addition to his DQ. In addition to the players that had DQs RPI's Ryan Haggerty and Bo Dolan and Union's Daniel Ciampini get one game.
Quote from: ursusminorRPI blog Without a Peer on what happened in Albany on Saturday http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?106432-Rep-Retirement-Lodge-171-On-Turkeys&p=5867623#post5867623.
The direct link to Without A Peer (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2014/01/a-breakdown-of-discipline.html).
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: ursusminorRPI blog Without a Peer on what happened in Albany on Saturday http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?106432-Rep-Retirement-Lodge-171-On-Turkeys&p=5867623#post5867623.
The direct link to Without A Peer (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2014/01/a-breakdown-of-discipline.html).
Thanks. That was my mistake. It's a good thing that the last site which I linked wasn't a porn site. ::whistle::
The ECAC has changed Bennett's suspension to 4 games and given Seth Appert one day off. Link (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2013-14/News/20142901_Additional_Suspension) They appear to have mixed up which team is in Canton and which is in Potsdam on Friday.
Well done, ECAC.
Quote from: BMacWell done, ECAC.
I still think that Bennett deserved to get the rest of the season off. I can't argue against the game given to Appert.
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: BMacWell done, ECAC.
I still think that Bennett deserved to get the rest of the season off. I can't argue against the game given to Appert.
What did he do wrong?
I like the one post I saw from the finishyourcheck web site. It says that the Union coach looked like he was mad because he couldn't get in line for the buffet fast enough. Classic. Was also called Coach Fatty by same poster.
Quote from: BMacWell done, ECAC.
I applaud this. As I stated earlier in this thread servere punishment is needed to discourage the extra-curricular shots being taken at the end of games.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ursusminorQuote from: BMacWell done, ECAC.
I still think that Bennett deserved to get the rest of the season off. I can't argue against the game given to Appert.
What did he do wrong?
Certainly not much. He did attempt to get to Bennett, and he could have gotten the team and some of his staff to stop fighting.
Quote from: capswonI like the one post I saw from the finishyourcheck web site. It says that the Union coach looked like he was mad because he couldn't get in line for the buffet fast enough. Classic. Was also called Coach Fatty by same poster.
Really? That's what we're finding "classic" these days?
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: capswonI like the one post I saw from the finishyourcheck web site. It says that the Union coach looked like he was mad because he couldn't get in line for the buffet fast enough. Classic. Was also called Coach Fatty by same poster.
Really? That's what we're finding "classic" these days?
Well, "Classic" in the sense that "Have another doughnut" (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Here-s-your-anniversary-doughnut-you-fat-pig?urn=nhl,81086) happened over 25 years ago
Article in Times-Union with Mat Bodie. He never admits to starting the fight, (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/A-conversation-with-Union-s-Mat-Bodie-5198774.php) but at least acknowledges our rightful place.
QuoteQ: You guys love playing here at Messa Rink, but is there a rink on the road where you look forward going to?
A: There are a lot of good barns in our league. Cornell is a lot of fun to play at. Their fans get up for it. Whenever there is a lot of energy in the building, it's a lot of fun. Whenever we play at RPI, it's fun. I would say those two probably stick out the most.
Watch OT in Troy. Yale @ RPI
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Union, Quinnipiac and Yale win, while Clarkson and Brown lose.
Everyone has now played 15 games.
1. 24 Uni
2. 23 Qpc
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3. 20 Cor
4. 19 Col
5. 18 Clk
6. 17 Yal
Saturday night:
Cor at Col
Yal at Uni
Clk at Prn
SLU at Qpc
Remarkably, after tomorrow night's game in Hamilton all the RS meetings between the 3-6 bunch will be complete:
Cor vs Col: one tie plus tomorrow
Cor vs Clk: Cor 1 Clk 1
Cor vs Yal: Cor 2 Yal 0
Col vs Clk: Col 2 Clk 0
Col vs Yal: Yal 2 Col 0
Yal vs Clk: Yal 1 Clk 1
Riotous Harvard thread over on USCHO especially re team having to push the broken Zamboni off the ice and the long game delay since it seems there is only one machine at Harvard. Schadenfreud? Yeh, I admit it.
Now someone can go ahead and tell me this should be in the "Sucks thread."::deadhorse::
I didn't because it's too damn long.
This is the post, from one of their (very few) prolific and knowledgable fans. The guy's not bad, he's just past his breaking point:
QuoteOkay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.
Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.
Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.
To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.
I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.
Do you get the sense that the sun never shines in this person's world? References all the way back to "Billy Cleary"? That's pretty lame.....
QuoteOkay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.
Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.
Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.
To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.
I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.
This guy is a frequent poster on that thread and has, in the past, been pretty supportive. He has some connections to the current AD and "Billy." Can't say I blame him for his frustration. Just hope the frustration continues another month.
Quote from: TimVThis guy is a frequent poster on that thread and has, in the past, been pretty supportive. He has some connections to the current AD and "Billy." Can't say I blame him for his frustration. Just hope the frustration continues another month.
Just another month? I hope it continues forever and ever.
Quote from: TrotskyThis is the post, from one of their (very few) prolific and knowledgable fans. The guy's not bad, he's just past his breaking point:
QuoteOkay so it looks like I'm the only one who cares to write something about the Crimson. Can't really blame folks for abandoning the thread. I'll try and make this mildly interesting to read.
Just when you thought you had seen it all in college hockey, along comes tonight's game between two bottom feeders. First, the Zamboni developed mechanical problems that necessitated a call to a mechanic to come to the rink for repairs (I'm not making this up). The Zamboni repaired and the ice finished almost two hours after the original start time, the teams warmed up a bit when it was announced that the game would begin right away. Oh wait, what about the national anthem? Okay, well, we'll have the anthem played by the Harvard University band. Whoops, not so fast. A recording of the anthem starts playing even though the band is in attendance (now I see why they don't come to games anymore. I thought it was because the Crimson stink. Silly me). Then while the puck is dropped and play starts, the starting lineup for the Crimson is announced. Between the first and second periods, it was announced that Chuck a Puck would not happen for tonight's game. Fast forward to the second period and viola! Chuck a Puck will indeed take place between the second and third periods.
Yup, that's Harvard hockey 2013-2014. A colossal joke. The game was so bad, I really was wishing that I had stayed home and watched the opening ceremonies from Sochi. Would it have killed them to keep the men's basketball game on the big screen even after the hockey game commenced? There just wasn't anything good to say about tonight's game. Horrendous passing, no clue as to how to set up a play, on and on it goes. How the mighty have fallen.
To make matters worse, Guiltinan got another game disqualification when he rammed his elbow into the head of a Dartmouth player and they proceeded to roll on the ice and throw haymakers at each other. Guiltinan comes off the ice bleeding and laughing at the same time and Teddy does nothing. Not a word. This kind of nonsense would not be tolerated by Billy Cleary. Harvard continues to take stupid penalties (Esposito negates a PP only 16 seconds in) and their undisciplined play and total lack of focus is really alarming. Even during Tommasoni's last season, it wasn't this bad. How Teddy lets this happen is beyond me.
I don't really want to hear about how talented we are because that is a load of you know what. We don't have the talent people think we have. And it is really clear that Teddy has to go. Nothing personal but he can't run a D-1 program. He is overmatched and it shows. We blow and to say otherwise is to be in denial. Time for a program overhaul. Now.
Naturally, with both players very concerned about Harvard at least making something of the rest of their season, Esposito tweeted at Guiltinan after the game:
Quote from: Esposito@kguilts with a Prince George-esk hit and fight. Love to see it #goon #harvardhockey
EDIT: It appears to be a different Esposito, not Luke, who plays for Harvard.
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 2 after 2. Huh.
4-2 final. What can Brown do for us?
Quote from: TimV4-2 final. What can Brown do for us?
Quite a bit. A Cornell win tonight and an upset at Hamden would put us just 1 point behind Q.
RPI's one dimensional Haggerty (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-s-Haggerty-signs-with-Rangers-5312333.php) signs with the Rangers.
Quote from: martyRPI's one dimensional Haggerty (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-s-Haggerty-signs-with-Rangers-5312333.php) signs with the Rangers.
and Mike Zalewski signed with the Canucks. :(
Quote from: ursusminorQuote from: martyRPI's one dimensional Haggerty (http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/RPI-s-Haggerty-signs-with-Rangers-5312333.php) signs with the Rangers.
and Mike Zalewski signed with the Canucks. :(
It will be interesting to see how he develops.
The SLU thread on USCHO is mulling rumors that Matt Carey is going to do a 1-and-done and leave with brother Greg.
There was some back-channel talk that Matt was an atrocity academically, so this might also be a push and not merely a pull. If this is true, Bayreuther's going to be awfully lonely in Canton next year.
We don't know about Ferlin and Ryan's plans, but the rest of the ECAC seems to be imploding around us. RPI, Quinnipiac, Yale, Clarkson and Union are all losing many of their best players. (Colgate is in great shape -- their whole team is underclassmen). If we have no defections we may improve significantly just by standing in place. Assuming of course, we have a goalie.
Quote from: TrotskyIf we have no defections we may improve significantly just by standing in place. Assuming of course, we have a goalie.
I'm sure someone can stand in the goalmouth next year. Afterall, it is just the system.
Quote from: TrotskyThe SLU thread on USCHO is mulling rumors that Matt Carey is going to do a 1-and-done and leave with brother Greg.
There was some back-channel talk that Matt was an atrocity academically, so this might also be a push and not merely a pull. If this is true, Bayreuther's going to be awfully lonely in Canton next year.
We don't know about Ferlin and Ryan's plans, but the rest of the ECAC seems to be imploding around us. RPI, Quinnipiac, Yale, Clarkson and Union are all losing many of their best players. (Colgate is in great shape -- their whole team is underclassmen). If we have no defections we may improve significantly just by standing in place. Assuming of course, we have a goalie.
He's gone. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2014/03/20_saint_lawrence_freshman_matt.php)
For everyone who complains about ECAC officiating, it could be worse... or better (http://deadspin.com/possibly-drunk-hockey-referee-is-having-a-grand-time-1553118210).
Quote from: TrotskyFor everyone who complains about ECAC officiating, it could be worse... or better (http://deadspin.com/possibly-drunk-hockey-referee-is-having-a-grand-time-1553118210).
I've played some extremely poorly officiated sneaker hockey; I think I'd have preferred if the refs had been drunk just to provide a reasonable excuse.
(I've also officiated sneaker hockey poorly myself, and also would have preferred to have been drunk.)
Move the ECAC playoffs here. (http://www.uscho.com/2014/04/04/utica-oswego-syracuse-eye-games-next-season-at-carrier-dome/)
If that doesn't get cornell to pack the building, I don't know what could?
Step 3: PROFIT! (http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/news/2014/03/28/for-union-college-hockey-success-on-the-ice-is.html)
Bennett wins the Penrose (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/4/9/5597328/unions-rick-bennett-wins-spencer-penrose-award).
Quote from: TrotskyBennett wins the Penrose (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/4/9/5597328/unions-rick-bennett-wins-spencer-penrose-award).
Crap
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyBennett wins the Penrose (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/4/9/5597328/unions-rick-bennett-wins-spencer-penrose-award).
Crap
Not as bad as if their fans had won an award.
They're going to struggle next year, and their fans are going to freak out.
Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.
Quote from: TrotskyBennett wins the Penrose (http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014/4/9/5597328/unions-rick-bennett-wins-spencer-penrose-award).
It was his late punching style at the RPI game that put him over the top! Voters were impressed with his willingness to defend his team against those horrid Engineers and the devilish coach! ::rolleyes::
Quote from: TrotskyThey're going to struggle next year, and their fans are going to freak out.
Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.
I hope so but I remember the same was said in '12.
Quote from: martyQuote from: TrotskyThey're going to struggle next year, and their fans are going to freak out.
Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.
I hope so but I remember the same was said in '12.
Yeah, but I didn't say it. :)
Losing Bodie and Carr is going to hurt bad. If Gostisbehere leaves too, then it's game over.
Had nowhere appropriate to put this.
I don't know how this could have escaped my notice for 35 years, but M. Emmet Walsh, the actor who played Dickie Dunn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Emmet_Walsh) in Slap Shot ("just tryin' to capture the spirit of the thing" ) went to Clarkson.
Model citizen (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/19/college-dropout-who-pocketed-tuition-from-mom-fakes-bomb-threat-to-cancel-graduation/) at Quinnipiac.
Calls in a bomb threat at graduation ... from her cell phone?
Quote from: billhowardCalls in a bomb threat at graduation ... from her cell phone?
::doh::
Evidently not the brightest bulb in the lot. Might have benefited from going to class. Even if she were pocketing the money, she could have sat at the back of the room in Terrorism 101.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardCalls in a bomb threat at graduation ... from her cell phone?
::doh::
Evidently not the brightest bulb in the lot. Might have benefited from going to class. Even if she were pocketing the money, she could have sat at the back of the room in Terrorism 101.
Maybe she could have used some of the money to buy a throwaway phone? ::stupid::
They call those burner phones. I watched The Wire. ::banana::
You cannot tell me admission standards are not lower at Qpac.