It's probably unfair to bury news about the new streaming service in the redcast sucks thread forever.
Here's two stories out of Penn about some news (and speculation) on the forthcoming service:
http://www.thedp.com/article/2013/07/phillips-ivy-digital-show-the-ancient-eights-foresight
http://www.thedp.com/article/2013/07/plan-for-ivy-digital-network-becomes-clear
Nothing earth shattering. Pricing likely to be about what it has been at Penn ($80/yr). Access to road games and all league games built in.
ETA: This article suggests that you'll subscribe by "channel" with each channel covering a school's home and road contests. There would also be an all-channel option, at presumably higher cost. http://nycbuckets.com/2013/06/the-game-has-changed-mid-major-basketball-and-online-streaming/
Quote from: Chris '03It's probably unfair to bury news about the new streaming service in the redcast sucks thread forever.
Maybe the opposite will be true. The new streaming service will bury the redcast sucks thread forever?::banana::
One-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
One year of league-wide access is $95.95: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
One year of league-wide access is $95.95: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/
I've been burned by Cornell's streaming video promises too many times. I'll pay for it *after* I see how it works, and whether it works on all my devices.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
One year of league-wide access is $95.95: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/
I've been burned by Cornell's streaming video promises too many times. I'll pay for it *after* I see how it works, and whether it works on all my devices.
Well, they do say it will be "an experience unlike any other." Give 'em credit for honesty, at least.;-)
Do we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Which I'm guessing it is when read in conjunction with the DP articles ("New online streaming service will allow fans to follow their team during road Ivy League games") and such. But I might be slightly wishful in my thinking/interpreting.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Which I'm guessing it is when read in conjunction with the DP articles ("New online streaming service will allow fans to follow their team during road Ivy League games") and such. But I might be slightly wishful in my thinking/interpreting.
Hope that's all correct. Would like to see away Ivy games and not at seven, eight, ten dollars a pop.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Which I'm guessing it is when read in conjunction with the DP articles ("New online streaming service will allow fans to follow their team during road Ivy League games") and such. But I might be slightly wishful in my thinking/interpreting.
Hope that's all correct. Would like to see away Ivy games and not at seven, eight, ten dollars a pop.
If there are 5 road Ivy games and the difference between the CU only and full league plans is $24, then it's ~$5/each if you buy the full league plan and are concerned solely about hockey and don't value 3-4 road lax or football games that would come with it too.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Which I'm guessing it is when read in conjunction with the DP articles ("New online streaming service will allow fans to follow their team during road Ivy League games") and such. But I might be slightly wishful in my thinking/interpreting.
Hope that's all correct. Would like to see away Ivy games and not at seven, eight, ten dollars a pop.
If there are 5 road Ivy games and the difference between the CU only and full league plans is $24, then it's ~$5/each if you buy the full league plan and are concerned solely about hockey and don't value 3-4 road lax or football games that would come with it too.
Right. But I do "value" those (and maybe women's hockey and men's b-ball--if that gets turned around) and have little interest in a Brown-Dartmouth game in any sport, so, if the Cornell package includes away Ivy games, that's all I need.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioDo we know whether the Cornell channel will have video of Ivy away games? Or will we require the all-Ivy channel to watch away football, hockey, b-ball, lax, etc.?
All indications have been that it's all home and league road included for each school. So you only need the whole league subscription if you want to watch two non-cornell teams play.
Quote from: Press releaseThe package includes everything the channel has to offer from live home and selected away games in HD as well as on-demand programming and other premium content.
That's true if "selected" is synonymous with "Ivy."
Which I'm guessing it is when read in conjunction with the DP articles ("New online streaming service will allow fans to follow their team during road Ivy League games") and such. But I might be slightly wishful in my thinking/interpreting.
Hope that's all correct. Would like to see away Ivy games and not at seven, eight, ten dollars a pop.
If there are 5 road Ivy games and the difference between the CU only and full league plans is $24, then it's ~$5/each if you buy the full league plan and are concerned solely about hockey and don't value 3-4 road lax or football games that would come with it too.
Right. But I do "value" those (and maybe women's hockey and men's b-ball--if that gets turned around) and have little interest in a Brown-Dartmouth game in any sport, so, if the Cornell package includes away Ivy games, that's all I need.
Agreed. I'm just pointing out that you'd never need to pay $10 each for (ivy) road games since the all-league package would pay for itself after two games in a world where road games are not included in the team-specific channel.
https://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360475586705100800
They are having a chat on Twitter 12-1 to answer any questions
Seems like a good deal, dont remember how much the full Redcast used to cost but it was around this new price and you still had to pay for road games
Since my yearly Redcast subscription does not renew on 8/21, I wonder if they are going to refund the difference?:-D
Quote from: Jim HylaSince my yearly Redcast subscription does not renew on 8/21, I wonder if they are going to refund the difference?:-D
Same for me. Don't hold breath.::yark::
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttps://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360475586705100800
They are having a chat on Twitter 12-1 to answer any questions
Seems like a good deal, dont remember how much the full Redcast used to cost but it was around this new price and you still had to pay for road games
Someone ask if the service will be run as well as the listserv announcing the service.
Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: phillysportsfanhttps://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360475586705100800
They are having a chat on Twitter 12-1 to answer any questions
Seems like a good deal, dont remember how much the full Redcast used to cost but it was around this new price and you still had to pay for road games
Someone ask if the service will be run as well as the listserv announcing the service.
Ditto.
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttps://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360475586705100800
They are having a chat on Twitter 12-1 to answer any questions
Seems like a good deal, dont remember how much the full Redcast used to cost but it was around this new price and you still had to pay for road games
We should find out if the away games at Colgate are included as they are deemed honorary members of the Ancient Eight.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: phillysportsfanhttps://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360475586705100800
They are having a chat on Twitter 12-1 to answer any questions
Seems like a good deal, dont remember how much the full Redcast used to cost but it was around this new price and you still had to pay for road games
Someone ask if the service will be run as well as the listserv announcing the service.
Ditto.
One freaking setting. (http://www.it.cornell.edu/services/elist/howto/admin/web-config-whopost.cfm)
I was unclear about out-of-conference games, important especially for hockey and lacrosse so I emailed Jeremy Hartigan asking if at least home games against Clarkson, SU etc were included.
His response:
"All games at home involving Cornell hockey will be part of the Ivy League Digital Network, including Union or RPI or Clarkson or Quinnipiac, etc. coming to Lynah.
All home games will be on the channel, plus road games involving Ivy League schools or NeuLion partners. That entire list will be out closer to the season (when we have it)."
Hooooahhh!::rock::
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
One year of league-wide access is $95.95: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/
I've been burned by Cornell's streaming video promises too many times. I'll pay for it *after* I see how it works, and whether it works on all my devices.
Well, they do say it will be "an experience unlike any other." Give 'em credit for honesty, at least.;-)
https://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360795728202833921
But I thought Redcast was the best thing ever... that's what they kept telling me....
Quote from: TimV quoting Hartigan"All home games will be on the channel, plus road games involving Ivy League schools or NeuLion partners. That entire list will be out closer to the season (when we have it)."
Which, beyond the other Ivies, could get us the UNO away games, if valid.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
One year of league-wide access is $95.95: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/
I've been burned by Cornell's streaming video promises too many times. I'll pay for it *after* I see how it works, and whether it works on all my devices.
Well, they do say it will be "an experience unlike any other." Give 'em credit for honesty, at least.;-)
https://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/360795728202833921
But I thought Redcast was the best thing ever... that's what they kept telling me....
Ah, damning with faint praise. I like it.
I signed up for ILDN's Cornell package. It looks like the first offerings will be around 6 Sept.
The triumph of hope over experience.
Quote from: TrotskyI signed up for ILDN's Cornell package. It looks like the first offerings will be around 6 Sept.
The triumph of hope over experience.
Let me know how it looks.
The triumph of cynicism.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyI signed up for ILDN's Cornell package. It looks like the first offerings will be around 6 Sept.
The triumph of hope over experience.
Let me know how it looks.
The triumph of cynicism.
Will do, though women's volleyball probably won't be much of a load test.
Edit: that really didn't come out right.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyI signed up for ILDN's Cornell package. It looks like the first offerings will be around 6 Sept.
The triumph of hope over experience.
Let me know how it looks.
The triumph of cynicism.
Will do, though women's volleyball probably won't be much of a load test.
I'm more concerned about video quality, so I guess we won't really know until the first hockey game with the specific Lynah camera to judge framerate, resolution, operator sobriety, etc.
What would be useful, though, is a characterization of the intrusiveness of the interface, and how widely compatible the stream is with various devices, etc. Those presumably won't depend on the venue.
Quote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
Last chance to save.
Quote from: martyQuote from: WederOne-year subscription now available (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/7/24/MBB_0724134233.aspx) for $71.95. Price goes up to $89.95 on Aug. 21. Shorter subscription terms also are available.
Last chance to save.
Sales must be sluggish. Extended one more week: http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/8/21/GEN_0821131751.aspx
Some more trickling onto the site: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/cornell/schedule
Looks like you can toggle scores on and off, which is nice. It was near impossible to watch an archived event on redcast without learning the score in the process.
The early season webcast schedule is now up: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule Every school except Cornell and Penn have games of some sort on the week of 9/6. Penn's first game is on the following week. Cornell doesn't appear in anything until homecoming 9/21.
Someone to be held accountable. (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/9/11/GEN_0911131823.aspx)
Quote from: George64Someone to be held accountable. (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/9/11/GEN_0911131823.aspx)
Question #1 is why are there no webcasts until September 21. Men's soccer as well as several women's teams are already playing. First there was no refund for the two unused months of my old RedCast subscription. Now there's nothing being webcast. So far it's a flop.
The video quality seems to be Redcast with better on screen graphics for the score, etc although there is no down marker on the screen. Barry's audio is terrible. Camera work is jittery and often zoomed in too close
Quote from: phillysportsfanThe video quality seems to be Redcast with better on screen graphics for the score, etc although there is no down marker on the screen. Barry's audio is terrible. Camera work is jittery and often zoomed in too close
Not sure which is worse: Cornell D or the webcast. Watched snippets of the Cornell-Penn field hockey game at Penn today and the video was superb. Guessing it's--what did you expect--a Cornell issue. Embarrassing.
Ugly start, 3 and out then give up 50+ punt return for a touchdown
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: phillysportsfanThe video quality seems to be Redcast with better on screen graphics for the score, etc although there is no down marker on the screen. Barry's audio is terrible. Camera work is jittery and often zoomed in too close
Not sure which is worse: Cornell D or the webcast. Watched snippets of the Cornell-Penn field hockey game at Penn today and the video was superb. Guessing it's--what did you expect--a Cornell issue. Embarrassing.
Yes same snippets of field hockey too. Pathetic when field hockey has better video
Finally put up a yardage marker, I guess they need to figure out how to use the new software
still using the same drunk camera people
Quote from: scoop85still using the same drunk camera people
If the drunk cameraman at least had a high def camera I could put up with it.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: scoop85still using the same drunk camera people
If the drunk cameraman at least had a high def camera I could put up with it.
That might be worse because it would be more noticeably jittery
Livestats saying 9 minutes left in the first quarter.:-|
now experiencing technical difficulties
Quote from: scoop85now experiencing technical difficulties
phillysportsfan and I have been experiencing them throughout the second half. Video quality much better, but too many interruptions.
Soccer at St. Joe's is supposed to be webcast but I can't get it to load.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioSoccer at St. Joe's is supposed to be webcast but I can't get it to load.
I cannot load it either, what a disaster of a debut for ILDN for Cornell
I don't understand why they list an away soccer game at a non-Ivy opponent as part of the IVY digital package when they don't offer any home Cornell soccer games [which used to be available via RedCast].
I am watching the game after purchasing from St Joe's all access [no score at halftime].
I just turned on the Penn football game, now that's quality. Blew it up to fullscreen, 27in monitor, and it's still great. Oh well.
Glad I didn't pay for this turkey yet. After years of abuse, Cornell gets the assumption of failure from me: they have to prove me wrong.
https://twitter.com/CornellSports/status/381583116651212800
They say they had an internet outage
I dont get " Hasn't been an issue before, should be fixed for Colgate." because this was their first broadcast
Quote from: Kyle RoseGlad I didn't pay for this turkey yet. After years of abuse, Cornell gets the assumption of failure from me: they have to prove me wrong.
I didnt think it would be magically be much better but the option is to pay and see the games in low quality or not see the games at all, I would rather see the games
Quote from: phillysportsfanQuote from: Kyle RoseGlad I didn't pay for this turkey yet. After years of abuse, Cornell gets the assumption of failure from me: they have to prove me wrong.
I didnt think it would be magically be much better but the option is to pay and see the games in low quality or not see the games at all, I would rather see the games
I'm sick of shit quality. This is 2013. I'll wait.
Just received this email in response to mine sent to Robin Harris, Ivy League Executive Director:
Robin Harris forwarded your email to me regarding Cornell's football broadcast from Saturday.
We are aware that Cornell had bandwidth issues within the university's network and belief that to be the primary cause of the issues. The Red Rover network was the first to go down during the game, causing the press box to lose all wireless capabilities (including live stats). Shortly thereafter, other network capabilities began to dwindle. We were aware of the situation and had some of our people on the line with them, as well as NeuLion's technicians, trying to troubleshoot in any way possible.
After attempting to make some adjustments, the stream continued to cut out in the second half periodically due to the instability of the network. It would almost be the equivalent of a TV satellite truck losing electricity.
Below is a link to the archive of the game. If you are logged into the network, you can access the stream.
http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/game/bucknell125-at-cornell-on-09212013
if you look at footage at the 52 minute mark versus the 1:26 mark you will see a significant difference. (You can adjust where you are in the timeline just above the play button with the gray / green slider bar.) The latter of the two is what you can expect to see in the Ivy League Digital Network.
Cornell does plan on carrying pregame and halftime analysis. Frankly, they spent most of halftime trying to figure out how to best troubleshoot what they were dealing with. Unlike a television network, we don't have a "SportsCenter" studio to toss it back to while we work out the technical issues. Maybe some day we will.
Thank you for concerns and I hope you will enjoy The Ivy League Digital Network more in the coming weeks and months.
Mike Hirschman
Assistant Executive Director for Communications & Championships
The Ivy League
cell: 336-383-7498
office: 609-258-2441
Quote from: Al DeFlorioJust received this email in response to mine sent to Robin Harris, Ivy League Executive Director:
Robin Harris forwarded your email to me regarding Cornell's football broadcast from Saturday.
We are aware that Cornell had bandwidth issues within the university's network and belief that to be the primary cause of the issues. The Red Rover network was the first to go down during the game, causing the press box to lose all wireless capabilities (including live stats). Shortly thereafter, other network capabilities began to dwindle. We were aware of the situation and had some of our people on the line with them, as well as NeuLion's technicians, trying to troubleshoot in any way possible.
After attempting to make some adjustments, the stream continued to cut out in the second half periodically due to the instability of the network. It would almost be the equivalent of a TV satellite truck losing electricity.
Below is a link to the archive of the game. If you are logged into the network, you can access the stream.
http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/game/bucknell125-at-cornell-on-09212013
if you look at footage at the 52 minute mark versus the 1:26 mark you will see a significant difference. (You can adjust where you are in the timeline just above the play button with the gray / green slider bar.) The latter of the two is what you can expect to see in the Ivy League Digital Network.
Cornell does plan on carrying pregame and halftime analysis. Frankly, they spent most of halftime trying to figure out how to best troubleshoot what they were dealing with. Unlike a television network, we don't have a "SportsCenter" studio to toss it back to while we work out the technical issues. Maybe some day we will.
Thank you for concerns and I hope you will enjoy The Ivy League Digital Network more in the coming weeks and months.
Mike Hirschman
Assistant Executive Director for Communications & Championships
The Ivy League
cell: 336-383-7498
office: 609-258-2441
I assume they mean 52 min. into the game and not 52 min. of the broadcast. It is definitely better. Still not as good as the Penn game I watched, but that might be because of all of the rain. We'll see what happens in 2 weeks, although I hope to be there and not watching on computer.
They are using the *wireless* for the broadcast? Are they crazy?
At least it's an actual response.
Quote from: Josh '99At least it's an actual response.
Haven't heard back yet from Cornell's new media guru.::worry::
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Josh '99At least it's an actual response.
Haven't heard back yet from Cornell's new media guru.::worry::
And this morning a thoughtful response from John Lukach did arrive. Hope he won't mind my sharing it here:
The delayed response is because I wanted to be certain the cause of the issue before responding to our fans. We have been working since the tech issues Saturday to resolve the matter. There was a bigger connection issue during gameday that affected more than just our Ethernet connection for the stream that showed on the campus connection as well. It was more than just us seeing slower speeds. We tested the upload speed throughout the week and had no issues until Saturday.
We understand the disappointment from the support and dedication of the alumni/fans and have been working to quickly resolve the issue. We understand that the quality wasn't HD at the beginning, but once we were able to enhance the quality during the second half, that is when the problem escalated. As the league office stated, if you go back to the archive you can see times where the quality during the second half was better. However, because of the bandwidth issues the connection to the ILDN could not consistently be maintained.
The issues we experienced started from internal IT issues. There was a problem with the bandwidth in the press box during this past game. We have been working on the issue since the occurrence and plan to continually monitor the connection speed. With the support of campus IT we are correcting the problems that arose from last Saturday. I have been meeting in each of our facilities to make sure the proper upload speed is met so that our productions will be sent in HD.
This is just the start of my third week here and I am still getting an understanding on the IT situations, to my understanding, have been an issue for a while. Since I was brought on so close to the start of our productions, it was difficult to get everything set as we needed it. We will be progressing quickly as I am getting a better understanding of Cornell's infrastructure and adding to the setup of the productions. Saturday was the first production. I understand the disappointment and look to better the broadcasts quickly. Thank you for your continued support of Cornell Athletics.
Thanks,
-John
John Lukach
Director of Multimedia, Production and Web Communication
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: Josh '99At least it's an actual response.
Haven't heard back yet from Cornell's new media guru.::worry::
And this morning a thoughtful response from John Lukach did arrive. Hope he won't mind my sharing it here:
The delayed response is because I wanted to be certain the cause of the issue before responding to our fans. We have been working since the tech issues Saturday to resolve the matter. There was a bigger connection issue during gameday that affected more than just our Ethernet connection for the stream that showed on the campus connection as well. It was more than just us seeing slower speeds. We tested the upload speed throughout the week and had no issues until Saturday.
We understand the disappointment from the support and dedication of the alumni/fans and have been working to quickly resolve the issue. We understand that the quality wasn't HD at the beginning, but once we were able to enhance the quality during the second half, that is when the problem escalated. As the league office stated, if you go back to the archive you can see times where the quality during the second half was better. However, because of the bandwidth issues the connection to the ILDN could not consistently be maintained.
The issues we experienced started from internal IT issues. There was a problem with the bandwidth in the press box during this past game. We have been working on the issue since the occurrence and plan to continually monitor the connection speed. With the support of campus IT we are correcting the problems that arose from last Saturday. I have been meeting in each of our facilities to make sure the proper upload speed is met so that our productions will be sent in HD.
This is just the start of my third week here and I am still getting an understanding on the IT situations, to my understanding, have been an issue for a while. Since I was brought on so close to the start of our productions, it was difficult to get everything set as we needed it. We will be progressing quickly as I am getting a better understanding of Cornell's infrastructure and adding to the setup of the productions. Saturday was the first production. I understand the disappointment and look to better the broadcasts quickly. Thank you for your continued support of Cornell Athletics.
Thanks,
-John
John Lukach
Director of Multimedia, Production and Web Communication
I just wish we would proofread before posting.
More from Mike Hirschman at the Ivy League:
They [Cornell] have made significant progress. University IT representatives were out to look through the stadium's technical infrastructure on Monday and discovered what caused the issue. Adjustments have been made and extended testing took place. They are fairly confident that the issue has been addressed so that Friday night's sprint football game will be back to expected levels.
Mike Hirschman
Quote from: dag14I don't understand why they list an away soccer game at a non-Ivy opponent as part of the IVY digital package when they don't offer any home Cornell soccer games [which used to be available via RedCast].
I asked John Lukach this and received the response below. It's a bit puzzling as I do recall watching soccer in the past...or is my memory faulty?
Men's soccer has not been streamed because we do not have a connection out at the field. Also, the other concern is that there is no press box to operate out of for the productions. Unfortunately it will remain an issue until proper connections are out at the field and there is a place to work out of. I understand the concern and we look to make the viewing environment better for everyone.
Thanks,
-John
Been meaning to post this, but there's also a new student-run group that's offering live audio coverage of soccer: http://www.bigredsportsnetwork.org/
They use the Ustream platform.
I talked with the BRSN guys at the Lafayette soccer game Tuesday night when I saw them broadcasting but remembered that the Athletics website showed only live stats as an option for the game. They are an incredibly dedicated group of students who cover men's and women's soccer as well as baseball, providing audio coverage on their own dime. They have solicited donations to get the technology they need to cover soccer since the stadium does not have the infrastructure and they appear to be willing to go to pretty incredible lengths to provide coverage. It is my understanding that they will provide audio for both home and away soccer and baseball this season.
They better start checking the bandwidth at Lynah, now.
they should be trying to understand what testing they did during the week that didnt identify the issues on a weekend..
WCHA is live streaming whole season all games: WCHA Announces League-Wide Live Game Streaming (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/09/24_wcha_announces_league-wide.php)
Quote from: College Hockey News...
Each live event can be viewed beginning 10 minutes prior to start time.
Three price levels are being made available: Day Pass, Monthly Pass or Full Season Pass. All passes include on-demand viewing. Only live events can be viewed on mobile devices. A Day Pass gives you access to all games on that night for $8, plus an extra $1 for mobile viewing. A Monthly Pass gives you 30 days of viewing for $45. A Full Season Pass costs $150, or $125 if purchased by Oct. 1.
Monthly or Season Passes comes with on-demand access for previous 30 days events.
While the other conferences, including Hockey East and the new NCHC and Big Ten, have established nationwide broadcast deals, this is the first league-wide Internet streaming deal of its kind.
I will be interested to see how quality of their service is this year.
Quote from: profudgeWCHA is live streaming whole season all games: WCHA Announces League-Wide Live Game Streaming (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/09/24_wcha_announces_league-wide.php)
Quote from: College Hockey News...
Each live event can be viewed beginning 10 minutes prior to start time.
Three price levels are being made available: Day Pass, Monthly Pass or Full Season Pass. All passes include on-demand viewing. Only live events can be viewed on mobile devices. A Day Pass gives you access to all games on that night for $8, plus an extra $1 for mobile viewing. A Monthly Pass gives you 30 days of viewing for $45. A Full Season Pass costs $150, or $125 if purchased by Oct. 1.
Monthly or Season Passes comes with on-demand access for previous 30 days events.
While the other conferences, including Hockey East and the new NCHC and Big Ten, have established nationwide broadcast deals, this is the first league-wide Internet streaming deal of its kind.
I will be interested to see how quality of their service is this year.
I guess they don't count Ivy League Internet streaming. We are a league and it is league wide, but it probably wouldn't count unless it was the full ECAC.
Was wondering if the issues have been resolved here at Cornell ? Is the product worth the cost ?
Quote from: Cop at LynahWas wondering if the issues have been resolved here at Cornell ? Is the product worth the cost ?
I'm waiting for some su-... er, I mean, forgiving soul to report on the first Lynah broadcast. Maybe with some screen shots, p. plz? :-)
I was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Yep. The CU preview says the radio call will be on the stream too, so this will be a good test.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Yep. The CU preview says the radio call will be on the stream too, so this will be a good test.
Does this mean that the exhibition game (and also the women's game?) will be carried by WHCU radio? I just may opt to stream the free WHCU audio and be three minutes behind everyone on the chat. I've gotten used to being behind the times especially listening to baseball via Sirius/XM internet stream and following along with MLB gamecast.
Quote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Yep. The CU preview says the radio call will be on the stream too, so this will be a good test.
Does this mean that the exhibition game (and also the women's game?) will be carried by WHCU radio?
The WHCU broadcast of the men's exhibition game is supposed to be streamed. The CU schedule lists audio for both women's games this weekend (in addition to video) as well. I do not know whether that means WHCU is going to start broadcasting women's games (which would be great) or whether that is the usual "amateur PBP from the press box" that we have heard up till now (which is better than nothing).
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Yep. The CU preview says the radio call will be on the stream too, so this will be a good test.
Does this mean that the exhibition game (and also the women's game?) will be carried by WHCU radio?
The WHCU broadcast of the men's exhibition game is supposed to be streamed. The CU schedule lists audio for both women's games this weekend (in addition to video) as well. I do not know whether that means WHCU is going to start broadcasting women's games (which would be great) or whether that is the usual "amateur PBP from the press box" that we have heard up till now (which is better than nothing).
BRSN apparently also plans to broadcast hockey this year. The men's game tomorrow is listed. The women are still TBD but I recall seeing something a while back about their intent to cover women's hockey. http://bigredsportsnetwork.org/mhockey/mhockey.html
Ivy League Digital Network Offers Discount For Hockey Season (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/18/MICE_1018132508.aspx).
QuoteITHACA, N.Y. -- As the start of the men's and women's hockey seasons approach, fans can receive a 20 percent discount for four- or 12-month school or league passes for the Ivy League Digital Network. To gain access to all hockey games on the Ivy League Digital Network, use the promo code "IvyHockey2013".
Expires 10/27
Ryerson at Princeton Hockey netcast tonight:
One dim, low center-ice camera.
No play-by-play.
No fans present.
::snore::::snore::::snore::
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyI was going to post after the York game, assuming it is streamed.
Both men's and women's games are on the schedule at least: http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/ivyleague/schedule?date=2013-10-25
Yep. The CU preview says the radio call will be on the stream too, so this will be a good test.
Does this mean that the exhibition game (and also the women's game?) will be carried by WHCU radio?
The WHCU broadcast of the men's exhibition game is supposed to be streamed. The CU schedule lists audio for both women's games this weekend (in addition to video) as well. I do not know whether that means WHCU is going to start broadcasting women's games (which would be great) or whether that is the usual "amateur PBP from the press box" that we have heard up till now (which is better than nothing).
The audio for the women's games that is part of the video stream is going to come from RLM Sports again, according to the RLM website.
Quote from: George64Someone to be held accountable. (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/9/11/GEN_0911131823.aspx)
Reading John Lukach's work experience, I wondered. Does Cornell offer a cross-major degree with something like EE or CS on one hand, and film & television production on the other?
Audio is a disaster on women's hockey. I feel like I'm listening to the chipmunks. Video is good...
Quote from: Chris '03Audio is a disaster on women's hockey. I feel like I'm listening to the chipmunks. Video is good...
Audio was completely unintelligible for me. I could watch only the first period.
Once ILDN came in for the men's game (about 6 mins late) it was fine: decent video resolution and clear, albeit extremely quiet, audio. No drops or buffering. Good enough.
Quote from: TrotskyOnce ILDN came in for the men's game (about 6 mins late) it was fine: decent video resolution and clear, albeit extremely quiet, audio. No drops or buffering. Good enough.
Agreed. The quality was generally good. But it's annoying that they cutoff the broadcast before the post game. They do the same for football.
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: TrotskyOnce ILDN came in for the men's game (about 6 mins late) it was fine: decent video resolution and clear, albeit extremely quiet, audio. No drops or buffering. Good enough.
Agreed. The quality was generally good. But it's annoying that they cutoff the broadcast before the post game. They do the same for football.
Tech support told me no pre- or post-game.
The preview (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/22/MICE_1022130922.aspx) indicates video coverage for UNO, so I suppose it's time for me to subscribe.
Quote from: Scersk '97The preview (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/22/MICE_1022130922.aspx) indicates video coverage for UNO, so I suppose it's time for me to subscribe.
Yes, it seems worth it this year. Just not paying for away games is major plus.
somebody, i forget who, mentioned on twitter that both UNO games will be broadcast on the Ivy sports network.
I signed up for the league wide access for 4 months, and then I'll do a monthly pass for the final few games. The extra $15 for the league-wide seemed worth it to see (some) road games.
Quote from: gomestarsomebody, i forget who, mentioned on twitter that both UNO games will be broadcast on the Ivy sports network.
I signed up for the league wide access for 4 months, and then I'll do a monthly pass for the final few games. The extra $15 for the league-wide seemed worth it to see (some) road games.
You get the road games without the league-wide pass. You only need the league wide to see games involving other Ivies.
this is what happens when I don't read threads. oh well, odds are i'd check out other games anyways.
Pretty slimy IMO but they will automatically add a subscription when you pay for a package. You have to cancel it by emailing ILDNsupport@neulion.com
Just a reminder.
Hey all,
If you had a REDCAST subscription from last year that hasn't yet expired, it is valid and supposedly active on the ILDN. That is a way to try out the new system before re-upping for another year. Also the customer support guy I talked to said there should be a small box somewhere on the account page to deactivate the auto-renew function when you sign up for an ILDN subscription. Your REDCAST subcription won't renew because they just have log-in info, not billing info.
Quote from: RitaHey all,
If you had a REDCAST subscription from last year that hasn't yet expired, it is valid and supposedly active on the ILDN. That is a way to try out the new system before re-upping for another year. Also the customer support guy I talked to said there should be a small box somewhere on the account page to deactivate the auto-renew function when you sign up for an ILDN subscription. Your REDCAST subcription won't renew because they just have log-in info, not billing info.
Don't see any option in my profile to cancel the auto renew option =/. If anyone could enlighten me to where it is, that'd be greatly appreciated.
Quote from: quickrabbit5Quote from: RitaHey all,
If you had a REDCAST subscription from last year that hasn't yet expired, it is valid and supposedly active on the ILDN. That is a way to try out the new system before re-upping for another year. Also the customer support guy I talked to said there should be a small box somewhere on the account page to deactivate the auto-renew function when you sign up for an ILDN subscription. Your REDCAST subcription won't renew because they just have log-in info, not billing info.
Don't see any option in my profile to cancel the auto renew option =/. If anyone could enlighten me to where it is, that'd be greatly appreciated.
I'd give customer service a call.. there til 10 pm. Guy I talked to was actually helpful.
Gotcha. Will do.
It looks like the "ivyhockey2013" promo offered this weekend doesn't include Sunday. Rats!
Quote from: Jim HylaIvy League Digital Network Offers Discount For Hockey Season (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2013/10/18/MICE_1018132508.aspx).
QuoteITHACA, N.Y. -- As the start of the men's and women's hockey seasons approach, fans can receive a 20 percent discount for four- or 12-month school or league passes for the Ivy League Digital Network. To gain access to all hockey games on the Ivy League Digital Network, use the promo code "IvyHockey2013".
Expires 10/27
If anyone decides to sign up today/Sunday 10/27, call customer support when you subscribe. Apparently, the discount code is no longer active on the website (expired at 12:01 am 10/27), however, if you call, they will honor it and manually put through the 20% refund to your credit card.
After all my bitching over the past decade, let it not be said that I don't give credit where credit is due: the games this weekend looked fabulous. I watched on my 1080p phone, and it looked crisp and smooth. Now, that's presumably with N-O's camera and internet connection, but nonetheless it is promising.
Quote from: Kyle RoseAfter all my bitching over the past decade, let it not be said that I don't give credit where credit is due: the games this weekend looked fabulous. I watched on my 1080p phone, and it looked crisp and smooth. Now, that's presumably with N-O's camera and internet connection, but nonetheless it is promising.
Android? If so which browser did you use? I connected on the phone last week but not this week and I'm trying to figure out why.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Kyle RoseAfter all my bitching over the past decade, let it not be said that I don't give credit where credit is due: the games this weekend looked fabulous. I watched on my 1080p phone, and it looked crisp and smooth. Now, that's presumably with N-O's camera and internet connection, but nonetheless it is promising.
Android? If so which browser did you use? I connected on the phone last week but not this week and I'm trying to figure out why.
Chrome. SGS4 Google Edition.
Looks awesome. Thanks to whoever finally got a clue about this stuff.
No post game show? I missed most of the game and was looking forward to Jason's recap.
Quote from: Kyle RoseLooks awesome. Thanks to whoever finally got a clue about this stuff.
They might replace the soft center ice camera with one similar to the camera near section E. Overall it is a nice product.
You can always get Jason's audio at WHCU Radio (http://www.whcuradio.com) which is streamed there.
So if it was that good, it's time to let the accountable person know about it.
John Lukach
Director of Multimedia, Production and Web Communication
jlukach@cornell.edu
It was good. I wouldn't say it was that good. Certainly not up to the quality of the previous week at UNO.
Quote from: Jordan 04It was good. I wouldn't say it was that good. Certainly not up to the quality of the previous week at UNO.
I thought the quality was about the same; I think there's just an inherent problem with Lynah's configuration that seems to preclude the better camera angles that you get with most rinks.
Quote from: Jordan 04It was good. I wouldn't say it was that good. Certainly not up to the quality of the previous week at UNO.
I thought the video resolution was better yesterday. The problem I saw was that the center ice camera wasn't as clear as the camera in the rear of section E ( or wherever).
When that second camera was used the clarity was better than what I saw from UNO.
Audio was ahead of video last night too.
is it only me or does it take forever to connect
Quote from: upprdeckis it only me or does it take forever to connect
As in, the feed takes a while to load? Or as in, it feels like I have to click around to 3 or 4 different pages before it launches the video?
The former, no. The latter, yes.
fedd is very choppy- clear image but it stutters.
The QU game was terrible. The feed froze every 2-3 minutes for a few seconds. It was brutal. Maybe time to message the "Director."
I had that trouble for the Q game, but the P game was pretty smooth.
Quote from: Jim HylaSo if it was that good, it's time to let the accountable person know about it.
John Lukach
Director of Multimedia, Production and Web Communication
jlukach@cornell.edu
Has anyone had any contact with Mr. Lukach? I sent an email asking why there was such a drastic difference in video quality between Friday night (fine) and Saturday night (crappy) and have yet to get a response from either Mr. Lukach or ILDN. Just curious and wonderng if they have already blocked my email for being a complainer (re: almost non-existent audio at UNO).
Nice coverage of Brown penalty shot.
The Early Bird Discount of 20 percent for Ivy League Digital Network (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/cornell) available through Sunday, Sept. 21.
Quote from: George64The Early Bird Discount of 20 percent for Ivy League Digital Network (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/cornell) available through Sunday, Sept. 21.
Is there a promo code or do the prices listed include 20% 0ff. I'm seeing $95.95 for the league annual pass and $71.95 for the Cornell school annual pass.
Quote from: martyQuote from: George64The Early Bird Discount of 20 percent for Ivy League Digital Network (http://www.ivyleaguedigitalnetwork.com/cornell) available through Sunday, Sept. 21.
Is there a promo code or do the prices listed include 20% 0ff. I'm seeing $95.95 for the league annual pass and $71.95 for the Cornell school annual pass.
That is the discounted price.
When my subscription renewed last month, I received the 20% off again.
Whelp
It did kick in eventually, and when it did the video was great. They've added an on-ice camera that is very nice, though they tend to lose track of the puck when they move between cameras. I don't think they actually have a producer or anything.
I don't suppose they couldn't watch one of the NBC telecasts in recent years to see how the pros would place their cameras.
There was at least one camera operator who is inexperienced as well. I got a headache watching the feed from the press box because it was so jittery.
you can get the 4 month pass for $27 and then add a couple months at the end for $10 if you want Lax.