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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: Tub(a) on March 14, 2003, 10:00:00 PM

Title: Section B
Post by: Tub(a) on March 14, 2003, 10:00:00 PM
::pissed::

I will give you a chance to explain yourselves before I completely tear into you.

Why did you find it necessary to taunt RPI while one of their players was lying motionless on the ice? I can understand that the person facing the section might not have seen the injured player, but 95% of the sheep that followed him could have. You do NOT do or say anything during an injury out of respect for the person lying on the ice. There are no excuses for this kind of stupidity.

Thank goodness this game wasn't televised. I would be embarassed to be associated with anyone that participated in that series of events.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: dadeo on March 14, 2003, 10:10:37 PM
to be fair, I was in one of the seats that was just about 5 feet from where the incident happened, and it was a silly injury.  A stick was wedged between the RPI player's legs, and when he tried to skate, he was upended. None of us who were right there thought it was too serious.  However, I'm sure IF he was injured, we all hope he is alright..
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Greg \'03 on March 14, 2003, 10:16:57 PM
I wouldn't kill them.  It may have been hard to see from where you were standing, but it looked like the "injury" was a stick to the nuts.  Perhaps those yelling at RPI thought the player was simply faking because it is difficult to have a serious injury while up against the boards.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 14, 2003, 10:31:49 PM
As a person in section B for the night ( :-D ), I had no idea there was a man down, it being in the far corner by E/F, as soon as someone pointed it out 95% of the people stopped.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Jordan on March 14, 2003, 10:37:56 PM
Took me a while as well to find out a man was injured.

I was more disappointed by the continued throwing of crap onto the ice...this time during sticks-in-the-air.  Sure, the coach wasn't getting off the ice, and he knew what he was holding up, but you don't throw stuff at him.  The linesman was there to handle it.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: peterg on March 15, 2003, 10:55:00 AM
The doctor who looked at the player told me he'd be fine - but that he'd be surprised if we saw him on the ice again this weekend.  It was a real injury.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: DeltaOne81 on March 15, 2003, 11:04:04 AM
[Q]I was more disappointed by the continued throwing of crap onto the ice...this time during sticks-in-the-air. Sure, the coach wasn't getting off the ice, and he knew what he was holding up, but you don't throw stuff at him. The linesman was there to handle it.[/Q]
Yeah, it was kinda stupid, but did you see the coach afterwards? The linesmen guided him off and he moved off, but just before the Cornell players did their salute, he stuck his toe back on the ice. Not in a "I'm just standing here way", but in a foot reached out in front of him, "nay-nee nay-nee boo boo" way. What are we, 3 years old?!?

P.S. what was he pissed off about anyway?
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: French Rage on March 15, 2003, 11:26:13 AM
I was in B and had no idea a player was down, until some RPI bandie was looking at us all shocked.  Furthermore, the cheers were not taunting.  the first was some guy, who obviously was at first game, yelling "give me a C, give me an O,...".  The second was the "RPI...sucks", which I view as aimed at the whole team, and not just that player.  Furthermore, RPI had given out cheap shots all night; don't give it if you can't take it.

So Grant, learn what you're talking about before you say it please.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Jordan on March 15, 2003, 11:28:18 AM
QuoteDeltaOne81 '03 wrote:

[Q]I was more disappointed by the continued throwing of crap onto the ice...this time during sticks-in-the-air. Sure, the coach wasn't getting off the ice, and he knew what he was holding up, but you don't throw stuff at him. The linesman was there to handle it.[/Q]
Yeah, it was kinda stupid, but did you see the coach afterwards? The linesmen guided him off and he moved off, but just before the Cornell players did their salute, he stuck his toe back on the ice. Not in a "I'm just standing here way", but in a foot reached out in front of him, "nay-nee nay-nee boo boo" way. What are we, 3 years old?!?

P.S. what was he pissed off about anyway?

I must have missed that t the end.  He certainly was acting childish at the end there, but still, it just looks horrible to start throwing stuff onto the ice.

I think he was just pissed about the officiating the entire night.  He was screaming right from the start when we got our first PP and then the 5x3.  Schafer too was unhappy with the officiating at times, as he had a chat with Murphy in front of the official's locker room at the end of period 1 (or it may have been 2 -- I forget).  The officiating was inconsistent and poor all evening, I thought.  Murphy (and Feola) made sure everyone knew they had whistles and were allowed to call penalties.  And the linesmen were on quite the power trip when it came to faceoffs...
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Keith K \'93 on March 15, 2003, 11:47:03 AM
No excuse for throwing stuff on the ice or at a player or coach, no matter how asinine Fridge might be.  Hurl insults all you want.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 15, 2003, 11:57:08 AM
Actually I thought Fridge was waiting to talk to the ref, rather than trying to stop our stick lifting. I doubt he would care that much about our players and fans.

On the other hand the RIP player who took a shot, with the puck, at Lenny after the end of the game is a real jerk. It wasn't a hard shot, but I guess he was frustrated. ::pissed::

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: atb9 on March 15, 2003, 12:00:29 PM
I thought he was pissed off at the time keeper most among other things.  At the end of the game, Murphy had to put 3 extra seconds on the clock (from 6 to 9) and then when the buzzer sounded, Fridge waddled straight for the time keeper and exchanged a few words.

About the injured player...There was a student in front of me that got yelled at for screaming, "Get off the ice you p*ssy!" when the entire crowd was silent.  That was pretty classless and if you're talking about him, I totally agree, he deserved what he got.  Dumbass.



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Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Ben \'03 on March 15, 2003, 12:04:00 PM
Jim, He definitely knew exactly what he was doing and that was surely more than just waiting for the officials to come off the ice. He could have easily waited at the door for them to come off but he decided not to move and make a scene. . . ::screwy::

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Chris Parkin \'03 on March 15, 2003, 12:18:15 PM
 [Q]I was in B and had no idea a player was down, until some RPI bandie was looking at us all shocked. Furthermore, the cheers were not taunting. the first was some guy, who obviously was at first game, yelling "give me a C, give me an O,...". The second was the "RPI...sucks", which I view as aimed at the whole team, and not just that player. Furthermore, RPI had given out cheap shots all night; don't give it if you can't take it.

So Grant, learn what you're talking about before you say it please. [/Q]

a) I was in section A. I didn't see the player get hurt, but it didn't take long to realize something was wrong. Did you not see the trainer coming onto the ice? It was after this that the cheers started.

b) Sure, "RPI...sucks" is taunting aimed at the entire team, of which the injured player is part. There's no excuse for taunting anybody when a player is down. It's absurd.

c) RPI giving out cheap shots obviously justifies one of their players being injured.::rolleyes::  You shouldn't wish injury on anyone-- cheap shots or not.

d) As far as telling Grant to learn what he's talking about, Grant was mad that people didn't have the common sense to shut up during an injury. What does he need to learn? Does he need to learn how to be a callous jerk?
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: AbbottFan1419 on March 15, 2003, 12:26:26 PM
well personally, i sit in N and i didn't realize that a player was down until after the trainer came out. maybe it was because i wasnt paying attention or i dont know... but still you  shouldn't taunt a team when one of their players are down...even if they really do suck. ::nut::
-the abbott fan

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: KDORK on March 15, 2003, 01:25:12 PM
we're never callous
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Josh Herman \'99 on March 15, 2003, 01:31:07 PM
As other people said, we couldn't see him.  You don't have any view of that Corner at all from B.  (Or A, I'd imagine.)  Furthermore, there were a lot of idiots in B last night who had no idea what was going on.  I hate to think how bad it'll be tonight.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Rob Komorowski \'03 on March 15, 2003, 06:11:48 PM
I also didnt see the player down when the cheer was going. But I also hate to see fans who come in and criticize other Section Bers because they are not the fans that other people want them to be. Yeah there are stupid people there but that shouldnt take away from your enjoyment of the game or cause people to call them out and explain what terrible fans they are. Personally no matter how stupid/ignorant other fans are a) they have a right to be there as much as a 4 yr season ticket holder as myself and b) Im gonna have a great time watching my favorite hockey team in the world!

Go RED!
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: atb9 on March 15, 2003, 06:19:04 PM
Right on!  It's all good.

I'm going to be enjoying my last home game as a student!

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Greg Berge on March 15, 2003, 06:24:23 PM
Anybody who throws anything other than hats and fish on the ice should be forced to wash the players' shorts by hand.  Or wash the players by hand.  Except I can imagine what we'd see thrown on the ice then.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 15, 2003, 06:37:53 PM
You forgot newspaper.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: dadeo on March 15, 2003, 09:55:41 PM
The official word on what happened to that dude was while he was upended, he sprained his knee, and not a nut-shot as was first thought.  This was coming from a team official.
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: ugarte on March 15, 2003, 09:59:58 PM
QuoteDavid'02 wrote:

and not a nut-shot as was first thought.
Is that a medical term?
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: atb9 on March 15, 2003, 10:02:34 PM
Another RPI skater got injured tonight early and the faithful were back to their respectful selves.  The guy was able to skate off himself and there was only applause for him.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: neil shapiro on March 15, 2003, 10:43:28 PM
Doesn't anyone throw sieves (strainers) anymore when we score...or cheap fake glassless glasses when the ref blows a call?
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 15, 2003, 11:12:58 PM
Back in my old days, there were multiple strainers/sieves thrown when we scored the first goal. However, now that's likely to get you a penalty.

Title: Re: Section B
Post by: CU at Stanford on March 16, 2003, 03:50:43 PM
Wasn't Dan Murphy the referee on this night?  Murphy sucks, has sucked since the early 90s, and something just does not change with time.  :-(
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: redice on March 16, 2003, 05:44:54 PM
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned classless Nolan Graham of RPI.  Did anyone see him  hacking at the back of Doug Murray's knees in the last minute of the Saturday game.  Both players were headed to their respective benches.  The play was well behind them in the RPI zone.  It looked like a blatant  attempt to aggravate Doug's ailing knee.  I  have to guess that Graham was doing this  because he knew that, in the last minute of his last college game, he probably wouldn't have to face the wrath of Murray again.  Totally classless, Mr. Graham!!!!!!
Title: Re: Section B
Post by: marty on March 16, 2003, 05:53:05 PM
This type of attack by RIP players is not uncommon.  There was an attempt to instigate a fight by the SENIOR RPI players at the conclusion of game 3 in Troy (1998).  That was the last three game set between RIP and Cornell.  Fridgen came on the ice to collar his boys which is ironic because his bonehead style of coaching is what causes the players to be so jerky.  

The lack of on ice class has been legendary in their program under Dan the Fridge.