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Title: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 28, 2013, 10:18:10 AM
The wrestling Heisman/Hobey is called the Hodge. (What is it with these H names?) and WIN magazine is sponsoring a poll that gives fans a chance to vote for the Hodge. You can find the poll on the WIN homepage (http://www.win-magazine.com/) by scrolling down a little. No registration, no sign in, nothing. Yes, it DOES seem very hackable. That is an observation, not a suggestion.

As it stands now, four time NCAA champion Big Red wrestler Kyle Dake is at over 60% with his closest competitor at ~25%.

Vote, vote, vote. (Even though it is inconceivable that he wouldn't win.)
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 28, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Can't say I'm surprised, but the real ballot box stuffing is going on in Pennsylvania. Since I last posted, Dake has fallen to 57% and Penn State's Ed Ruth has climbed to 32%.

WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR, ED!
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: snert1288 on March 28, 2013, 09:42:47 PM
And now Ruth overtakes Dake, 47% to 45.5%.  There is no way Dake doesn't get this award, right?
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: billhoward on March 29, 2013, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: snert1288And now Ruth overtakes Dake, 47% to 45.5%.  There is no way Dake doesn't get this award, right?
Penn State reactivated the Save Joe Pa mailing list.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 29, 2013, 09:07:20 AM
Sorry, but I can't vote in a poll that after you vote alows you to go back and vote again. Well, maybe I can't (won't) vote more than once.:-|
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2013, 11:27:10 AM
Quote from: snert1288And now Ruth overtakes Dake, 47% to 45.5%.  There is no way Dake doesn't get this award, right?
I would be stunned.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: Chris '03 on March 29, 2013, 11:44:35 AM
Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 29, 2013, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: mountainred on March 29, 2013, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
Yeah, I think they said that the public poll counted for two. A guy who apparently had a vote had suggested that he was going to vote for Steiber but probably changed his mind because COME ON. (Steiber is a great wrestler and is one of two likely winners next year, along with Ruth. But he is also a two-time champion because of a TERRIBLE call in the 2012 finals against Oliver, who should have graduated a 3x champ.)
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: snert1288 on March 29, 2013, 01:46:17 PM
I would not count out David Taylor for Hodge next year.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2013, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: snert1288I would not count out David Taylor for Hodge next year.
True - but Ruth would be a legit 3x champ, an injury in the semis his freshman year from going for 4. Steiber will be a less legit 3x champ, but a 3x champ nonetheless. Taylor would be on his second championship. THANKS TO KYLE DAKE! (And Bubba Jenkins.)
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
WIN has revised the article; Ed Ruth got 4 votes, including the two fan votes.

Quote from: WIN Magazine(Publisher's Note: The original March 29 Hodge Trophy release had an error in recording the number of first-place Hodge votes for Penn State's Ed Ruth. Kyle Dake got 39 of 43 first-place votes. Ruth got the other four, not two as originally released. Of these four first-place votes, two of them were the composite fan votes. Dake's first-place total of 41 was tabulated before the official fan voting was closed late on Thursday, March 28.)
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 29, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
WIN has revised the article; Ed Ruth got 4 votes, including the two fan votes.

Quote from: WIN Magazine(Publisher's Note: The original March 29 Hodge Trophy release had an error in recording the number of first-place Hodge votes for Penn State's Ed Ruth. Kyle Dake got 39 of 43 first-place votes. Ruth got the other four, not two as originally released. Of these four first-place votes, two of them were the composite fan votes. Dake's first-place total of 41 was tabulated before the official fan voting was closed late on Thursday, March 28.)
So there WERE two assholes who voted for Ruth.::moon::
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2013, 08:27:38 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
WIN has revised the article; Ed Ruth got 4 votes, including the two fan votes.

Quote from: WIN Magazine(Publisher's Note: The original March 29 Hodge Trophy release had an error in recording the number of first-place Hodge votes for Penn State's Ed Ruth. Kyle Dake got 39 of 43 first-place votes. Ruth got the other four, not two as originally released. Of these four first-place votes, two of them were the composite fan votes. Dake's first-place total of 41 was tabulated before the official fan voting was closed late on Thursday, March 28.)
So there WERE two assholes who voted for Ruth.::moon::
Seton Hall Pirate had said that he was voting for Steiber (apparently bears a grudge against Dake?) but who knows what he did in the end.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: KeithK on March 29, 2013, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
WIN has revised the article; Ed Ruth got 4 votes, including the two fan votes.

Quote from: WIN Magazine(Publisher's Note: The original March 29 Hodge Trophy release had an error in recording the number of first-place Hodge votes for Penn State's Ed Ruth. Kyle Dake got 39 of 43 first-place votes. Ruth got the other four, not two as originally released. Of these four first-place votes, two of them were the composite fan votes. Dake's first-place total of 41 was tabulated before the official fan voting was closed late on Thursday, March 28.)
So there WERE two assholes who voted for Ruth.::moon::
Relax. The "right" guy one. Don't stress about it.
Title: Re: [Wrestling] Ballot box stuffing: Not Just For Hobey
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 29, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: mountainred
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Chris '03Dake wins.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2013/3/29/WREST_0329131411.aspx
And who were the two assholes who voted for Ruth?  Edit: I guess it was the Penn State tribe who voted for Ruth in the public poll, proving that public polls are dumb...especially when one can vote at will.

Yep, that's how I read the story as well; Dake was unanimous except for the public poll.  Maybe the Hodge Committee will see this as evidence that the public poll is a stupid addition, but I doubt it.
WIN has revised the article; Ed Ruth got 4 votes, including the two fan votes.

Quote from: WIN Magazine(Publisher's Note: The original March 29 Hodge Trophy release had an error in recording the number of first-place Hodge votes for Penn State's Ed Ruth. Kyle Dake got 39 of 43 first-place votes. Ruth got the other four, not two as originally released. Of these four first-place votes, two of them were the composite fan votes. Dake's first-place total of 41 was tabulated before the official fan voting was closed late on Thursday, March 28.)
So there WERE two assholes who voted for Ruth.::moon::
Relax. The "right" guy one. Don't stress about it.
I'm not stressed and I don't need to relax.  I can't imagine someone allegedly knowledgeable about college wrestling who wouldn't vote for Dake.