Thursday WCHA Scores:
Wisc. 7 - Minn. St. 2
CC 4 - No. Dak. 3 (o't)
So the two teams definitely in the NCAA lose, Wisconsin is on the bubble and CC will need to win the tournament to make the NCAA's.
All this is not good news for Union and RPI. RPI is currently 19th in PWR, but will but rooting strongly for Wisconsin, Providence and BU just ahead of them to lose Friday.
Union is 15th and has a decent shot at making the NCAA's if they go 1 and 1 this weekend, except that with BU, Providence, CC, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan and Brown still alive in tournaments, Union could be knocked out at 1 and 1 this weekend if two of those win out (including also any non-Niagara AHA team). Given all the funkiness of PWR, there's a lot more to this, but to maximize our ECAC chances, I'll be rooting for some favorites rather than underdogs in other conference tournaments tomorrow.
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0 Final
Bubble teams:
Canisius 5 Niagara 3 Final
Wisconsin 4 St. Cloud 1 Final
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
Providence 1 Lowell 0, end of 1
Alain wasn't answering Adam's questions between periods. Distracted?
Quote from: TrotskyBrown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
I hope Brown scores 10.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: TrotskyBrown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
I hope Brown scores 10.
I wouldn't shed any tears.
Brown has had 5 power plays, and Hartzell has just 15 saves. According to the Q announcers Brown is just hanging back playing good D, then scoring on the counter.
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Poop on the ticks! Poop on the ticks!
ROUND THE BOWL AND DOWN THE HOLE, GO BROWN GO!
Borelli a save on a Connor Jones breakaway. Q has just 2 SOG in the first 7 minutes of the third.
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Quote from: TrotskyHE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Just a quick glance, but they seem ok. It isn't like they are Neon Blue or anything horrific like that (see bball uniforms of Norte Dame, Michigan and Oregon).
Quote from: TrotskyHE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Maybe they're contemporary chic and you're too old to shift with fashion. You probably didn't appreciate the first time as a kid you saw harvest gold appliances.
Quote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyHE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Just a quick glance, but they seem ok. It isn't like they are Neon Blue or anything horrific like that (see bball uniforms of Norte Dame, Michigan and Oregon).
Not the color (which is just boring), but the logo, which looks like something out of F-1.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: TrotskyHE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Maybe they're contemporary chic and you're too old to shift with fashion. You probably didn't appreciate the first time as a kid you saw harvest gold appliances.
It's been all downhill since the Peace of Westphalia.
Brown wins, 4-zip. Bruno in their first final since 1993, and the lowest seed (7) to reach the final since 2004 (Clarkson, 9).
Canisius 5, Niagara 3. According to CHN this means two Atlantic Hockey teams will make the NCAA tournament for the first time.
UMass-Lowell logo: I was thinking, the Albany River Rats decide post 9/11 to become the Albany Patriots, go red-white-blue, and this is the logo that says it so proudly.
Meanwhile, this looks like a Hockey East tournament final weekend except with all those empty seats. HE is supposed to sell out.
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Quote from: billhowardMeanwhile, this looks like a Hockey East tournament final weekend except with all those empty seats. HE is supposed to sell out.
Maine and UNH are not supposed to crap out in the QF, either.
Quote from: ajh258So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
i'm no expert so don't bet your house on this, but union is at 15 and will like get bumped down and out by the AHA winner and Brown if Brown wins the ECAC. So I think we can get Brown or Union in but not both. In the WCHA both Wisconsin and CC have to win to get in and both are still alive. And of course Michigan winning the CCHA would screw things up even more.
Quote from: ajh258So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
That would probably knock Union out. They are only a 15 now.
Quote from: Ritai'm no expert so don't bet your house on this, but union is at 15 and will like get bumped down and out by the AHA winner and Brown if Brown wins the ECAC. So I think we can get Brown or Union in but not both.
So Yale can ensure the conference 3 reps by losing tonight.
Quote from: ajh258So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Brown makes the NCAAs, they're going to walk to the top of the arena and try to look out a window or fire door to see if they on set at the Truman Show.
the providence - uml game is taking forever. I didn't know they could review icing calls.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: ajh258So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Brown makes the NCAAs, they're going to walk to the top of the arena and try to look out a window or fire door to see if they on set at the Truman Show.
I wonder if the Cornell players will be watching it from the clubhouse at the golf course.
North Dakota fell to #11 in PWR afteer last night's results. Without playing, they were up to #5 about an hour ago, but have since fallen to #7. It's great that PWR's purely objective but the methodology sure needs some tweaking.
union up 3-0 very early in the 2nd. A very pretty breakout leads to unions 3rd goal.
cc and minnesota tied at 0, late in the 1st.
In the scoreboard watching department for squeakball, FGCU the university in Estero that is a long golf drive from Germain Arena, is taking it to #2 seed Georgetown. This is their 2nd (or 3rd) year of DI basketball eligibility. ::bugeye::
Quote from: TrotskyIt's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
QuoteAttendance: 0
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIt's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
QuoteAttendance: 0
Those Groupon offers made the turnstiles whirl.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIt's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
QuoteAttendance: 0
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?
Quote from: kingpin248Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIt's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
QuoteAttendance: 0
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?
Yeah, they're probably missing a zero.
Quote from: RitaIn the scoreboard watching department for squeakball, FGCU the university in Estero that is a long golf drive from Germain Arena, is taking it to #2 seed Georgetown. This is their 2nd (or 3rd) year of DI basketball eligibility. ::bugeye::
We played tennis at FGCU a few years ago when we were down in Estero for the hockey tournament!
4-0 Union, midway through the third.
Quote from: Trotsky4-0 Union, midway through the third.
Looks like 4's and 0's are lucky numbers in Atlantic City this weekend.
Union wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Quote from: TrotskyUnion wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Somehow appropriate that this upside down ECAC season - with Cornell, Harvard, and Clarkson finishing in the bottom four, and none of those three in the tournament semifinals for only the second time ever - ends with two long-time doormats playing for the Whitelaw Trophy.
Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
Quote from: TrotskyUnion wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Yale is not a lock. There is the possibility of 5 lower teams winning their tournaments. Then Yale could be out. As of now at least 3 lower teams will win. I consider Union to be a lower, as it's likely they need to win to get in.
Quote from: nyc94Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
As Adam just posted in the pairwise blog, there are a lot of "bid-stealers" this year and BU is doing its best to be one too. Just went up 4-2 on BC, and BU still has 4+ min left on a 5 min pp.
Yale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
Quote from: RitaQuote from: nyc94Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
As Adam just posted in the pairwise blog, there are a lot of "bid-stealers" this year and BU is doing its best to be one too. Just went up 4-2 on BC, and BU still has 4+ min left on a 5 min pp.
BU scores again on a PP, 5-2.
Edit: 5-3 now. 3:58 remaining. BC going on the PP.
Edit: BC pulling the goalie for the second minute of the PP. And BU scores. 6-3.
Quote from: Jim HylaYale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
Based on the comments by Q coach after game saying his team played its "worst game of year" and Hartzell also didn't play well, I expect Q will come out with its A game today. Pecknold pulled Hartzell for 14 seconds after the third Brown goal to give him a talking-to, and then put him back in the game.
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: Jim HylaYale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
Based on the comments by Q coach after game saying his team played its "worst game of year" and Hartzell also didn't play well, I expect Q will come out with its A game today. Pecknold pulled Hartzell for 14 seconds after the third Brown goal to give him a talking-to, and then put him back in the game.
Reached for comment, Mark Morris suggested goalie rotation at every stoppage followed by a beating.
Quote from: kingpin248Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIt's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
QuoteAttendance: 0
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?
Nice thought, here's the box score for the second game.
QuoteAttendance: 0
Maybe they just had trouble counting all the people. I mean check out all the photos on USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/photos/2013/03/23/gallery-friday-at-the-ecac-hockey-championship/)
Speaking of the Grey Lady USCHO, has anyone else found the speed of page loading to have gotten far slower over the last several months? Not just during game nights (when high usage would be expected) but just generally?
There is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
Quote from: TrotskyThere is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
In lieu of a real analysis by the experts, here is where we stand (approximately) on the NCAA draw.
* = still alive in their conference tourney
(7) Group I: In
I am presuming (mostly arbitrarily %) the top 7 in the PWR are in, if not formally then with overwhelming probability:
1. Quinnipiac (ECAC)
2. Minnesota (WCHA)
3. Lowell (HE) *
4. Miami (CCHA) *
5. BC (HE)
6. North Dakota (WCHA)
7. UNH (HE)
(3) Group II: In by the Law of the Excluded Middle
Two teams enter, one team leaves:
14. Union (ECAC) * or 20. Brown (ECAC) *
17. Wisconsin (WCHA) * or 25. CC (WCHA) *
--. Mercyhurst (AH) * or --. Canisius (AH) *
Those 10 teams leave 6 slots that can be populated from the following two groups:
Group III: On the Bubble
8. Notre Dame (CCHA) *
9. Yale (ECAC)
10. Denver (WCHA)
11. Mankato (WCHA)
12. Niagara (AH)
13. St. Cloud (WCHA)
Group IV: Deus ex Auto Bid
Teams outside the top 16 but still alive for an auto bid:
18. BU (HE) *
26. Ohio State (CCHA) * or 29. Michigan (CCHA) *
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves. Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice once, so they (the #8) are the dividing line.
Rooting interests to maximize ECAC representation (a.k.a., save Yale)
Based on the above, our rooting interests today are the following.
Very strongly prefer:
Lowell > BU
Miami > Michigan (The beast must die)
Yale > Quinnipiac
Weakly prefer:
Ohio State > Notre Dame (Knock ND down, then have OSU lose tomorrow)
CC > Wisconsin (Yale beat CC once)
Agnostic:
Canisius vs Mercyhurst
Brown > Union? Not sure.
Quote from: TrotskyIn lieu of a real analysis by the experts, here is where we stand (approximately) on the NCAA draw.
* = still alive in their conference tourney
(7) Group I: In
I am presuming (mostly arbitrarily %) the top 7 in the PWR are in, if not formally then with overwhelming probability:
1. Quinnipiac (ECAC)
2. Minnesota (WCHA)
3. Lowell (HE) *
4. Miami (CCHA) *
5. BC (HE)
6. North Dakota (WCHA)
7. UNH (HE)
(3) Group II: In by the Law of the Excluded Middle
Two teams enter, one team leaves:
14. Union (ECAC) * or 20. Brown (ECAC) *
17. Wisconsin (WCHA) * or 25. CC (WCHA) *
--. Mercyhurst (AH) * or --. Canisius (AH) *
Those 10 teams leave 6 slots that can be populated from the following two groups:
Group III: On the Bubble
8. Notre Dame (CCHA) *
9. Yale (ECAC)
10. Denver (WCHA)
11. Mankato (WCHA)
12. Niagara (AH)
13. St. Cloud (WCHA)
Group IV: Deus ex Auto Bid
Teams outside the top 16 but still alive for an auto bid:
18. BU (HE) *
26. Ohio State (CCHA) * or 29. Michigan (CCHA) *
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves. Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice so they (the 7) are the dividing line.
I think your analysis is pretty much "bang on" as some Canadians I know would say.
It's a huge possible bursting bubble for some teams. As of now, a team could finish #12 in PWR and not make the tournament.
Surely people are playing with YATC (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/yatc.php)? Just because I don't have time to these days...
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Quote from: Trotsky% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves. Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice so they (the 7) are the dividing line.
Dunno how much, if at all, this affects your analysis, but the CCHA does not have a consolation game this year (or ever again, apparently).
Quote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyThere is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
The updated box score (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/muniyal1.m22) claims 3145 tickets were sold, as opposed to 3462 for the semifinals last year, and 3351 in 2010-11. Based on the sound in the building and the few shots of the seats, I'd think the actual number of people in the building was somewhere in the triple digits.
Quote from: kingpin248Quote from: RitaQuote from: TrotskyThere is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
The updated box score (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1213/boxes/muniyal1.m22) claims 3145 tickets were sold, as opposed to 3462 for the semifinals last year, and 3351 in 2010-11. Based on the sound in the building and the few shots of the seats, I'd think the actual number of people in the building was somewhere in the triple digits.
So maybe it's just the ECAC site that doesn't want to tell the "attendance". They still say 0.:-O
Quote from: jtwcornell91Surely people are playing with YATC (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/yatc.php)? Just because I don't have time to these days...
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It isn't as much fun this year :(.
If Brown wins they are given a place in Providence because they are the host there. (Why isn't Providence the host?) Jason Moy has had QPac in Providence in his bracketology.
Would a Brown autobid for winning today force QPac to New Hampshire and BC to Providence?
Quote from: marty(Why isn't Providence the host?)
I think the school has to submit a sponsoring bid.
One potential bid stealer is eliminated. Norte Dame (who is in position for a possible at large bid) has beaten Ohio State.
On a positive note, ND wore "normal colored" uniforms: white jerseys, blue pants, gold trim. Not neon green eyesores.
In case anyone's interested, CCHA is on FCS Pacific as well as Detroit. At least in TWCNY.
Mich up 2-0 in second
Q 1-0 first inter
3-0 mich
4-0 Mich
Quote from: Jim HylaMich up 2-0 in second
Q 1-0 first inter
Apparently, wolverines also have 9 lives. and are on route to score 9 goals in this semi-final.
4-0 michigan ~ 8 min left in the 2nd.
Miami's safety sieve gets to play.
4-0 Michigan over Miami with 8:27 left in the 2nd. If they win the CCHA, a likely match-up is with Minnesota in the first round.
Q 2-0 third
M 4-1 second inter
Q 3-0
Q 3-0 final
Quote from: Jim HylaQ 2-0 third
M 4-1 second inter
Yale loses 3-0. It is going to be a long 27 hrs for the Bulldogs. Yale Bulldogs are now Notre Dame's biggest fans.
Quote from: Jim HylaQ 3-0 final
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.
Quote from: jkahnQuote from: Jim HylaQ 3-0 final
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.
Unfortunately for Yale and the ECAC, I'm rooting for both of those upsets.
Yale finishes (nearly*) their run of amazing offensive players with a respectable 2 ECAC titles. However, given the caliber of the players who went through the school recently, they probably could have rolled up even more trophies.
Career points:
163 Brian O'Neill '12
150 Andrew Miller '13
142 Broc Little '11
131 Denny Kearney '11
126 Sean Backman '10
116 Mark Arcobello '10
* Kenny Agostino '14, with 96 points, remains.
For comparison, over the same period Greening's 118 led Cornell.
Remarkably, Yale was shut out this weekend.
Mich 6-2 7:46 to go
Is it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
Quote from: TrotskyIs it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
You think the tv gods could have arranged for staggered starts? Both the ECAC and HE finals started at 7 pm. would have been nice to have them offset by 30 min so that you could flip to the other during intermissions.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIs it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
I call that video, which is harder.
Quote from: RitaYou think the tv gods could have arranged for staggered starts? Both the ECAC and HE finals started at 7 pm. would have been nice to have them offset by 30 min so that you could flip to the other during intermissions.
When the schedule was made up they expected us to be in the final. After the inevitable line brawl, the games would have been staggered.
Aint looking good for Bruno. 2-0 Union after 1.
Per ECAC, attendance holding steady at "0."
BU goalie just knocked the puck into his own net. UML 1-0 third
U 3-1 third
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Quote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
UML survives a frantic 90s of BU having the extra attacker. UML 1-0. BU eliminated.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
Yes
U wins, now we have to hear how they are so dominant.
Bruno runs out of luck. Union wins 3-1.
Yale still alive for an at large bid.
Wisconsin up 2-1 on CC in the 2nd in a "winner takes all" game.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
Yes
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
Yes
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
Quote from: Jim HylaU wins, now we have to hear how they are so dominant.
You sound like a bitter Red Sox fan talking about the Yankees.
Cornell sucked this year and is playing some well-earned golf at the moment. Get over it. The people to blame aren't at Yale: they're at Cornell.
Quote from: RitaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
Yes
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
That's why I asked if he wanted Yale out, not if he wanted Michigan to win.
Anyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
Quote from: martyAnyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
I'm 0-fer on my routing interests. I pulling for CC over Wisc solely on the fact that CC traveled to Lynah. Also, for those of you over 40, it is fun hearing the name "Krushelnyski" This is former Edmontom Oiler (among other NHL teams) Mike's son Alex.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: RitaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: Jim HylaIf it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
You want Yale out?
Yes
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
That's why I asked if he wanted Yale out, not if he wanted Michigan to win.
So, don't make all those assumptions about me. Rita is right, I also went to UM. You asked if I wanted Yale out. I said yes. That's the only way UM gets in. You didn't ask if I wanted UM in.
In regards to U. There has been conversation since they won last year, as to how they've talked about being the dominant team in the ECAC. That was after they won 1 championship. I'm not being bitter, and it has nothing to do with how Cornell or Yale did. It has to do with their fans.
Just don't make assumptions about my feelings. I'm happy to tell them to you, if you ask.
For all that are interested, some of the LP hotels are taking reservations for next year's ECAC weekend. I just made one at the Golden Arrow. It's right across from the rink, with parking. You know how valuable that can be. However, they still have their 7 day cancelation policy. I'm going to email Mr. Hagwell. Last fall he said he was looking into it.
Wisc wins, one more game to go.
Quote from: martyAnyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
Yes, it has occurred to a lot of people that Cornell could have been in the NCAAs and made the proverbial deep run, which I think means winning both games the first weekend.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIs it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
I call that video, which is harder.
I should have been clearer. I meant that you called the ECAC a "jerkwater conference" and having no audio (as an aside it did have audio). So what do you call a conference that has no internet video?
I think the DeerTicks are going to be screwed in the seedings. They are the overall number one and I have BC. and Union possible in their bracket for travel/ ticket sales.
If it weren't for UHN hosting, B.C. would be in Manchester for travel reasons. I'm not expecting B.C. to go to Toledo.
QPuke being an overall number one shouldn't be seeded against number five (or six depending on CCHA) B.C. - oh well.
Quote from: martyI think the DeerTicks are going to be screwed in the seedings. They are the overall number one and I have BC. and Union possible in their bracket for travel/ ticket sales.
If it weren't for UHN hosting, B.C. would be in Manchester for travel reasons. I'm not expecting B.C. to go to Toledo.
QPuke being an overall number one shouldn't be seeded against number five (or six depending on CCHA) B.C. - oh well.
It really depends upon whether the committee factors in attendance.
Here's Adam's non-attendance look. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/03/23_bracket_abcs_final_projection.php)
A contrary view by CHN pro-attendance view by Mike Machnik. (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/03/24_ncaa_bracket_projection_big.php)
And USCHO's Jason Moy's pro-attendance view. (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2013/03/24/one-game-left-two-scenarios-two-brackets/)
It's tough. I also look at attendance not as a monetary issue, but from a fans perspective, can I go and watch.
Quote from: Jim HylaJust don't make assumptions about my feelings. I'm happy to tell them to you, if you ask.
While I am happy to stand corrected on this, I don't think my interpretation of your statement was unreasonable, just wrong as it turned out.
I do still stand by my overall opinion on this matter of other cellar-dwellers now doing well: too many ELynah regulars are living in the past, acting like Cornell owns the ECAC. That attitude is arrogance, pure and simple, and needs to stop.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyIs it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
I call that video, which is harder.
I should have been clearer. I meant that you called the ECAC a "jerkwater conference" and having no audio (as an aside it did have audio). So what do you call a conference that has no internet video?
I should have been clearer. Union and Brown are jerkwater for not having an audio feed for their ECAC final appearance. (As an aside, no, they did not have an audio feed. Union was listed on the ECAC site as having an audio feed, which terminated in a page saying that they would not have a feed, and the link was removed from the ECAC site during the game.)
The ECAC, OTOH, farts butterflies and rainbows.
Michigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Quote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
No. Notre Dame football fan. But nice jump to conclusions there Tonto.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
No. Notre Dame football fan. But nice jump to conclusions there Tonto.
I didn't jump to conclusions, I asked. You still didn't answer.::bolt::
Yale gets in. ND beats Michigan 3-1. Let's hope for a good NC$$ showing by the ECAC.
Quote from: jkahnQuote from: Jim HylaQ 3-0 final
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.
Notre Dame beats Michigan. Yale survives.
Quote from: RitaYale gets in. ND beats Michigan 3-1. Let's hope for a good NC$$ showing by the ECAC.
Yale can well afford the plane ride to Grand Rapids. They will get the Goofers if I am reading things correctly.
The question for the ECAC is whether Union gets to stay east in Providence. My bracket matches Jason's with BC vs, Union there.
I'm brainwashed by reading his blog.
Quote from: jkahnQuote from: jkahnQuote from: Jim HylaQ 3-0 final
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.
Notre Dame beats Michigan. Yale survives.
Very nice. Now hopefully they (or Union or Q) will answer the bell.
Quote from: martyThe question for the ECAC is whether Union gets to stay east in Providence. My bracket matches Jason's with BC vs, Union there.
His bracket has Union and Q in the BC regional. Now watch it's Canisius that advances from there... :-P
Oh well, now that Mich has lost, it looks like I won't be going to any regionals. Now the process of cancelling all the reservations and making new ones for next year. I'm always optimistic.:-}
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
That's pretty much it for me. I could give a bunch of subsidiary reasons like not being willing to travel, etc. but basically it's that they've been too good for too long.
If I had made the unfortunate decision to go another ECAC school I"d probably hate Cornell too. Perish the thought.
Quote from: KeithKQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
That's pretty much it for me. I could give a bunch of subsidiary reasons like not being willing to travel, etc. but basically it's that they've been too good for too long.
If I had made the unfortunate decision to go another ECAC school I"d probably hate Cornell too. Perish the thought.
Yankees too, bud: evil empire forever. :-) I couldn't live with the hypocrisy, so I stopped faulting other programs for consistent success.
Quote from: Kyle RoseYankees too, bud: evil empire forever. :-) I couldn't live with the hypocrisy, so I stopped faulting other programs for consistent success.
Easy enough to find other reasons to dislike them than their winning. ;)
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyMichigan leading 1-0 after 1. Of course.
God I hate Michigan.
Why, because they're too good? Sort of how the rest of the ECAC used to feel about us?
That's pretty much it for me. I could give a bunch of subsidiary reasons like not being willing to travel, etc. but basically it's that they've been too good for too long.
If I had made the unfortunate decision to go another ECAC school I"d probably hate Cornell too. Perish the thought.
Yankees too, bud: evil empire forever. :-) I couldn't live with the hypocrisy, so I stopped faulting other programs for consistent success.
Hypocrisy? It's sports fandom. It doesn't have to be rational and consistent. Besides, I don't mind if other people hate the Yankees. It actually warms my heart to hear somof the vitriol directed toward my baseball team. (I don't think I'll enjoy the likely gloating this year but that'll be much more due to the resulys than how anyone else feels about them.)
Quote from: KeithKIt actually warms my heart to hear somof the vitriol
Definitely enjoy this about Cornell hockey. "Frustrated!" :)
Quote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Three years in a row that Jason Moy has nailed the seeding.
Quote from: martyThree years in a row that Jason Moy has nailed the seeding.
Was he in Atlantic City this weekend and happen to buy a Powerball ticket too?
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Nah. Fandom just means you have a right to irrationally hate a bunch of guys (or uniforms) that really have no impact on your life. It doesn't mean you have to.
Quote from: KeithKQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Nah. Fandom just means you have a right to irrationally hate a bunch of guys (or uniforms) that really have no impact on your life. It doesn't mean you have to.
Speaking of which, the NCAA selection show featured the Quinnipiac team standing around looking very clean cut.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: KeithKQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Nah. Fandom just means you have a right to irrationally hate a bunch of guys (or uniforms) that really have no impact on your life. It doesn't mean you have to.
Speaking of which, the NCAA selection show featured the Quinnipiac team standing around looking very clean cut.
You were expecting the Hell's Angels look perhaps? :-P
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: KeithKQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Nah. Fandom just means you have a right to irrationally hate a bunch of guys (or uniforms) that really have no impact on your life. It doesn't mean you have to.
Speaking of which, the NCAA selection show featured the Quinnipiac team standing around looking very clean cut.
You were expecting the Hell's Angels look perhaps? :-P
Well, Rand Pecknold
does have a sort of serial killer vibe about him.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: KeithKQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: KeithKHypocrisy? It's sports fandom.
I definitely enjoy the hate directed at the Yankees by the locals in Boston; I just have a hard time reciprocating. I guess I'm a bad fan.
Nah. Fandom just means you have a right to irrationally hate a bunch of guys (or uniforms) that really have no impact on your life. It doesn't mean you have to.
Speaking of which, the NCAA selection show featured the Quinnipiac team standing around looking very clean cut.
A friend who was working in the Bristol campus tonight texted me that she passed by the QU hockey team in the hall as they were getting a tour (I'm sure for the selection show visit). "sweet & very well behaved," she said.
Quote from: RitaOne potential bid stealer is eliminated. Norte Dame (who is in position for a possible at large bid) has beaten Ohio State.
On a positive note, ND wore "normal colored" uniforms: white jerseys, blue pants, gold trim. Not neon green eyesores.
But Ohio State wore helmets painted like their football helmets. ::yark::
Very sad to note that all of the teams that made the final CCHA tournament were complicit in its demise (two Big Ten, one NCHC and one Hockey "East").
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: RitaOne potential bid stealer is eliminated. Norte Dame (who is in position for a possible at large bid) has beaten Ohio State.
On a positive note, ND wore "normal colored" uniforms: white jerseys, blue pants, gold trim. Not neon green eyesores.
But Ohio State wore helmets painted like their football helmets. ::yark::
Very sad to note that all of the teams that made the final CCHA tournament were complicit in its demise (two Big Ten, one NCHC and one Hockey "East").
The CCHA still exists, it's just called the WCHA. ;)
I for one really enjoy that the MacNaughton Cup and Broadmoor Trophy will now be contested and won by schools like Lake Superior, Bowling Green, and Alabama-Huntsville.
From the USCHO post-tourney article: (http://www.uscho.com/ecac-blog/2013/03/25/now-the-fun-begins/)
QuotePerhaps it was only fitting: The Bulldogs didn't show up on the ice, so why should we have expected them to appear for a press conference?
Yale ditched the obligatory post-game presser following the consolation-game loss, with nary a word of explanation. Per colleague Nate Owen, who was live at the scene:
"[The media] waited for a few minutes... someone went back to find [Yale], said they were showering and would be out. Then they came back and said they had already gotten on the bus and left."
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/ecac-blog/2013/03/25/now-the-fun-begins/#ixzz2OZbnOyAI
And from the Hockey East article: (http://www.uscho.com/hockey-east-blog/2013/03/25/jack-parker-bcs-demise-and-prime-time-lowell/)
QuoteWhile I believe the Eagles will be playing in the most forgiving of the four regional sites, that luck of the draw won't be enough if they give up breakaways by the bushel the way they did against BU.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/hockey-east-blog/2013/03/25/jack-parker-bcs-demise-and-prime-time-lowell/#ixzz2OZeIwbdS
and:
Quote(As an aside to the North Dakota fans who are upset that their team won't be in the East Regional, you didn't get placed in the easiest regional, but you didn't get put in the toughest one either (that being the Northeast). And as an eighth seed, you deserve, in theory, the toughest second-round matchup, not the easiest.
(So you're really getting what you deserve even though the selection committee's reason for not giving you Quinnipiac — surely the weakest overall number one seed in memory — was attendance, not justice.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/hockey-east-blog/2013/03/25/jack-parker-bcs-demise-and-prime-time-lowell/#ixzz2OZefPQOC
The new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
Quote from: Jim HylaThe new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
The Final Five (tm) seems like something the Big Ten should hold onto since making sense has never much mattered to them.
Quote from: Jim HylaThe new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
Or poor math?
More on Allain not showing up for the post-game news conference from Ken Schott. (http://www.dailygazette.com/weblogs/schott/2013/mar/25/college-hockey-slap-schotts-week-23-good-riddance-/)
QuoteAllain embarrass ECACH
It was not a great championship round for Yale. The Bulldogs were shut out by Union and Quinnipiac.
After Saturday's loss to Quinnipiac, the media waited for Yale coach Keith Allain to come to the dais for the postgame press conference. They waited, and waited, and waited.
Allain decided not to show up. Nor did any of his players.
This is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale. Now, Allain isn't a media-savvy coach. His answers and short and bland.
However, he is not above the league where he can blow off the media. And it's not the first time. He was a no-show for last Tuesday's conference call for the championship round.
Allain embarrassed the ECACH, and he embarrassed Yale. It was a classless act. There is no excuse for his actions. He should be severely reprimanded.
And on AC.
QuoteThe Dutchmen may be the only ones that will miss Atlantic City. I can speak for the rest of the ECACH nation and say, "Good riddance!"
The three-year stay in Atlantic City was a disaster for the league. Start with the attendance, or lack there of. The announced attendance for Friday's semifinals was 3,145, and 4,017 for Saturday's games. Were those numbers that were provided by Boardwalk Hall from the New Jersey Lottery Pick-4? Or were those numbers for the seats NOT filled? Or were those numbers the three-year total attendance?
QuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have
just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Quote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
If Allain violated a league rule then by all means fine him. I just don't need Ken Schott using his column to bray that not getting his post-game cliche to pad out his paint-by-numbers article is a Crime Against Humanity.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
If Allain violated a league rule then by all means fine him. I just don't need Ken Schott using his column to bray that not getting his post-game cliche to pad out his paint-by-numbers article is a Crime Against Humanity.
I think we all, in some form or another, inflate the importance of our little hockey league and/or our place in it. Schott is a small fish in a small pond: again, I agree with you, but I have a hard time getting worked up over it.
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
If Allain violated a league rule then by all means fine him. I just don't need Ken Schott using his column to bray that not getting his post-game cliche to pad out his paint-by-numbers article is a Crime Against Humanity.
I think we all, in some form or another, inflate the importance of our little hockey league and/or our place in it. Schott is a small fish in a small pond: again, I agree with you, but I have a hard time getting worked up over it.
Well, as things go my Urge To Kill is only about a 6 on this. And since it baselines at a 5, that's not too bad.
Let's not talk about Barry Melrose as the ESPN resident "expert" for college hockey, however. That's 9 territory.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
If Allain violated a league rule then by all means fine him. I just don't need Ken Schott using his column to bray that not getting his post-game cliche to pad out his paint-by-numbers article is a Crime Against Humanity.
I think we all, in some form or another, inflate the importance of our little hockey league and/or our place in it. Schott is a small fish in a small pond: again, I agree with you, but I have a hard time getting worked up over it.
Well, as things go my Urge To Kill is only about a 6 on this. And since it baselines at a 5, that's not too bad.
I think mine was a 9 in college. I'm down to about a 4. I consider this a great improvement, though I'm probably still at elevated risk for a heart attack.
QuoteLet's not talk about Barry Melrose as the ESPN resident on college hockey, however. That's 9 territory.
The reason I'm at a 4 is that I turn the TV off whenever he's on. That's the key: avoiding the stressful inputs.
Quote from: Kyle RoseI think mine was a 9 in college. I'm down to about a 4. I consider this a great improvement, though I'm probably still at elevated risk for a heart attack.
Car keys rule in reverse. Do not exceed the number of decades you have left.
(Arthur should announce "one minute to play" at 90th birthday parties...)
Quote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Kyle RoseQuote from: TrotskyQuoteThis is unacceptable. The league needs to come down hard on Allain and Yale.
Hell hath no fury like the media scorned.
I think the beat writers of the ECAC might have just a bit of a case of inflated self-importance. ::wank::
Is it really inflated? The press might have outnumbered the fans in Atlantic City this year.
Is that our measuring stick for importance? ;)
When media types feel snubbed (as they appear to more often than operatic divas) they have the luxury of reporting about themselves to themselves using themselves. That's not news; it's a circle jerk.
I don't disagree with you; I was mostly making a flippant comment about the lack of interest in ECAC hockey.
That said, if there's a league policy about attending post-game press conferences and Allain violated it, he should be sanctioned. The alternative is an even bigger media black hole for the ECAC, which struggles as it is to get coverage for a league that very few people give a crap about. (24 years and counting. Is this the year? I'll go out on a limb and say, "Probably not".)
The media circle-jerk isn't the issue here: rather, the issue is that college hockey media could completely ignore the ECAC and almost no one would care. The ECAC is like the sub-Saharan Africa of college hockey: virtually no one covers it, and everyone—including most of the alumni and students of the ECAC schools themselves—mostly seems okay with that.
If Allain violated a league rule then by all means fine him. I just don't need Ken Schott using his column to bray that not getting his post-game cliche to pad out his paint-by-numbers article is a Crime Against Humanity.
I think we all, in some form or another, inflate the importance of our little hockey league and/or our place in it. Schott is a small fish in a small pond: again, I agree with you, but I have a hard time getting worked up over it.
I read somewhere that there is no rule, but your point above is one important issue. We need the coverage, and all coaches should realize that and work to help it. The other issue was that he told the league officials that they would be out, and then just left, leaving them with egg on their face. If there is no rule, just say there won't be a post-game interview. Don't say yes, then walk out the back door.
Quote from: Jim HylaThe new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
The article is in error; it's still going to be a Final Five. Each semifinal will actually consist of a two-game total goals series, followed by the championship game, which brings the total to five.
No, not really, but couldn't you just see that happening?
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: Jim HylaThe new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
The article is in error; it's still going to be a Final Five. Each semifinal will actually consist of a two-game total goals series, followed by the championship game, which brings the total to five.
No, not really, but couldn't you just see that happening?
You are a few days early. And you should probably have posted it in this thread (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?5,185739). :)
Quote from: Give My RegardsQuote from: Jim HylaThe new WCHA is getting off to a great start. As written on USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/) they announced their new format for their Final Five Tournament.
QuoteThe top eight teams in the final regular-season standings will play in a best-of-three first-round series at the home site of the top four finishers, followed by the four first-round winners advancing to the WCHA Final Five the following weekend, which would consist of two semifinal games on the first day of the event followed by the Broadmoor Trophy title contest on day two.
Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/03/24/wcha-announces-future-playoff-sites-new-playoff-format/#ixzz2Ob4U322V
Or is it The Final Four, or just bad writing?::screwy::
The article is in error; it's still going to be a Final Five. Each semifinal will actually consist of a two-game total goals series, followed by the championship game, which brings the total to five.
No, not really, but couldn't you just see that happening?
That would have actually fooled me, I must admit.
It's just dumb enough for somebody to do.
(Hey, in a world with the Memorial Cup, any configuration is possible.)