Online ticketing system appears to show that Friday's game is sold out. Anyone with any insight into this?
Edited to add: Stubhub has a few available for each game.
Cornell outnumbers Q with 8 drafted players to 3. There should be little, if any, talent advantage for Q. Let's see if the boys can pull it together.
Call the ticket office, ask about standing room. With Q on break, are there really 3500 faculty and townspeople, plus students livng nearby and not sunning in Panama City, to fill the place? 'course, being ranked #1 may have a bandwagon effect on potential fans.
FWIW, the Quinnipiac thread on USCHO mentioned that the games on both Friday and Saturday were already either sold out or SRO, likely excluding whatever allotment Cornell gets.
I would expect a tough atmosphere at (First Against the Wall Come the Revolution) Arena. They drew 101% (http://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/division-i-men/2012-2013/) for the year, there's a jock culture there that's much more reminiscent of a Hockey East school, and they've been great all year to allow the snowball of "the in thing on campus" to build. Plus if the RS game on NBCS is any indicator, they flood the building with thunder sticks, piped-in derp music, and the other geegaws of the contrived "atmosphere" of a pro game.
The way to handle that is to come out hard early and take the facetimers out of it.
The best way to get tickets is through the Cornell ticket office. I just spoke with them and they haven't received the tickets yet from Q, but expect to have them available to purchase online later in the day.
As for the atmosphere at Q, it's terrible. They blast loud music before the game, during the game and between periods. The thundersticks they give out are annoying. Their fans don't know that much about hockey. I've been to several games there listed as sellouts where there were hundreds of empty seats. The parking situation stinks since there's only one access road to and from the parking area.
Quote from: semsoxFWIW, the Quinnipiac thread on USCHO mentioned that the games on both Friday and Saturday were already either sold out or SRO, likely excluding whatever allotment Cornell gets.
Plus remember they've known when/where these games will be for two weeks (well for even more given how early they clinched the RS), so they've had plenty of time to sell the tickets.
Quote from: TrotskyPlus if the RS game on NBCS is any indicator, they flood the building with thunder sticks, piped-in derp music, and the other geegaws of the contrived "atmosphere" of a pro game.
Spot on. I wonder if they'll dig out the giant inflatable bobcat head that their team skated through on their way onto the ice several years ago. The general M.O. for the managment of the concrete bunker is to provide the residents of Hamden, CT with the best ECHL atmosphere they can.
I'm not sure if the dorms they were building up on that hill are done, but I'm sure the drunk bus that they provide to cart a lot of them to and from the arena (and as I learned after the Yale game, to the bars of New Haven) will be running.
Quote from: BearLoverCornell outnumbers Q with 8 drafted players to 3. There should be little, if any, talent advantage for Q. Let's see if the boys can pull it together.
As Harvard has proven time and time and time again, the number of draft picks you sport amounts to approximately bupkis on the ice.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverCornell outnumbers Q with 8 drafted players to 3. There should be little, if any, talent advantage for Q. Let's see if the boys can pull it together.
As Harvard has proven time and time and time again, the number of draft picks you sport amounts to approximately bupkis on the ice.
Exactly, I'm sure there are some organizations that want those picks back.
Quote from: css228Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverCornell outnumbers Q with 8 drafted players to 3. There should be little, if any, talent advantage for Q. Let's see if the boys can pull it together.
As Harvard has proven time and time and time again, the number of draft picks you sport amounts to approximately bupkis on the ice.
Exactly, I'm sure there are some organizations that want those picks back.
If you're talking about our current guys rather than Harvard's sucky alumni, it seems awfully soon to say that any of them are wasted draft picks.
For those planning to attend hockey games at Q who might be unaware, the lacrosse team plays at Yale Saturday afternoon at 1.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: css228Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverCornell outnumbers Q with 8 drafted players to 3. There should be little, if any, talent advantage for Q. Let's see if the boys can pull it together.
As Harvard has proven time and time and time again, the number of draft picks you sport amounts to approximately bupkis on the ice.
Exactly, I'm sure there are some organizations that want those picks back.
If you're talking about our current guys rather than Harvard's sucky alumni, it seems awfully soon to say that any of them are wasted draft picks.
Talking in general, that there have been many busts in NHL draft picks, though there is one Pennsylvania organization which I'm sure wants its pick back, not that I particularly care because this kind of thing never gets old (http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2209027/sadgoalie_medium.gif)
Tickets just went live on the CU Athletics website:
https://cornellbigredtickets.universitytickets.com/user_pages/event_listings.asp
Quote from: Josh '99Tickets just went live on the CU Athletics website:
https://cornellbigredtickets.universitytickets.com/user_pages/event_listings.asp
Thanks, I just called them 15 min before your post and was told to not expect anything till Tuesday AM.::twak::
Tickets are being sold online through ticket office website. They're only selling tickets for Games 1 and 2 so they don't have to deal with refunds after we sweep the series. If by some chance there is a Game 3, fans will have to buy them at Q at the end of Game 2 on Saturday night.
Purchased. Once again, in for Game 1 only due to work commitments on Saturday. Thanks for the info!
Quote from: dbilmesTickets are being sold online through ticket office website. They're only selling tickets for Games 1 and 2 so they don't have to deal with refunds after we sweep the series. If by some chance there is a Game 3, fans will have to buy them at Q at the end of Game 2 on Saturday night.
If there is a game 3, I hope they're smart enough to again have it at 5 PM. Getting home at 2 AM, to get up at 6, isn't fun.
I don't see that anyone has talked about Iles injury on Fri night and that Hogan was dressed Sat. I assume he was there in case Iles couldn't play? Maybe he was dressed Fri and I just didn't notice. Anyone else notice? Fortunately Iles seemed OK and I never thought about it after that.
They usually dress all three goalies -- home and away.
Gotovets didn't play Saturday again. Anyone know the word? Mowrey looks like he'll be back. When's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
Quote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_vs_Top_10.pdf
11/15/96 vs. UVM. That same team also tied #1 Michigan at Yost in January. Since then, CU has only played #1 (however Greg defines it in this chart) once until this season: the 4-3 loss to UHN in the 2002 NCAA QF in Worcester. Also since then, Cornell has 2 wins vs. #2s: 12/06 vs. UNH in Florida and last season's NCAA win vs. Michigan.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
There's an index.
(But yeah, I know, search engine. I know.)
Quote from: Larry72They usually dress all three goalies -- home and away.
Maybe I've missed it at all the away games that I've been to, but Sue Detzer and I both thought it was funny to see Hogan at an away game.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
There's an index.
(But yeah, I know, search engine. I know.)
The index was the first place I went. The page I linked to wasn't listed in the index, but then after another frustrating visit to the "Cornell History" section, I found it under the oh-so-obvious "Cool Stuff" heading.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: dbilmesTickets are being sold online through ticket office website. They're only selling tickets for Games 1 and 2 so they don't have to deal with refunds after we sweep the series. If by some chance there is a Game 3, fans will have to buy them at Q at the end of Game 2 on Saturday night.
If there is a game 3, I hope they're smart enough to again have it at 5 PM. Getting home at 2 AM, to get up at 6, isn't fun.
http://quinnipiac.prestosports.com/information/March_Madness_2013
Q has Sunday's possible Game 3 listed as a 7:30 p.m. start time, presumably because their women's basketball team is expecting to be playing in their conference championship game in the attached basketball arena at 5 p.m. If we go to a game three, I'm keeping the hotel room for Sunday night as need a place to work during the day on Sunday.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_vs_Top_10.pdf
11/15/96 vs. UVM. That same team also tied #1 Michigan at Yost in January. Since then, CU has only played #1 (however Greg defines it in this chart) once until this season: the 4-3 loss to UHN in the 2002 NCAA QF in Worcester. Also since then, Cornell has 2 wins vs. #2s: 12/06 vs. UNH in Florida and last season's NCAA win vs. Michigan.
I'll take the info he has on his site over the design of his site any day.
IIRC, the 2002 NCAA QF game was the game UHN earned our nickname for them by having their fans hold up their letter cards in the wrong order.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Larry72They usually dress all three goalies -- home and away.
Maybe I've missed it at all the away games that I've been to, but Sue Detzer and I both thought it was funny to see Hogan at an away game.
It's rare for the third goalie to make trips. Usually Colgate is the only regular season away game they'll take all three to, assuming they have three. Travel restrictions might be different for playoff games.
I just spoke to Sue Detzer. CU sold 50 tickets from Ithaca and CC of Hartford has another 50. Band is going so the attendance may be better than PU. Unfortunately I had to call her because now I can't go:`-(, but that means there are tickets at the ticket office if someone needs them.
Quote from: Tom Pasniewski 98Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_vs_Top_10.pdf
11/15/96 vs. UVM. That same team also tied #1 Michigan at Yost in January. Since then, CU has only played #1 (however Greg defines it in this chart) once until this season: the 4-3 loss to UHN in the 2002 NCAA QF in Worcester. Also since then, Cornell has 2 wins vs. #2s: 12/06 vs. UNH in Florida and last season's NCAA win vs. Michigan.
I'll take the info he has on his site over the design of his site any day.
IIRC, the 2002 NCAA QF game was the game UHN earned our nickname for them by having their fans hold up their letter cards in the wrong order.
What design?
BTW, how I define it is the USCHO poll. If I am ever successful in finding the pre-USCHO polling from the days of that TV (radio?) station out of Detroit (St. Paul?), I will include that. This would be nice, since it would capture all of those weeks in the 60's when Cornell must have been in the top 2 or 3.
And yes, your memory is correct, that was the immortal UHN game.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Tom Pasniewski 98Quote from: RichHQuote from: BearLoverWhen's the last time Cornell beat the #1 team in the country?
I'm just excited 1) To beat Trotsky to the punch and 2) I actually found something I was looking for on his site. ;-)
http://www.tbrw.info/reports/pdf/rpt_Games_vs_Top_10.pdf
11/15/96 vs. UVM. That same team also tied #1 Michigan at Yost in January. Since then, CU has only played #1 (however Greg defines it in this chart) once until this season: the 4-3 loss to UHN in the 2002 NCAA QF in Worcester. Also since then, Cornell has 2 wins vs. #2s: 12/06 vs. UNH in Florida and last season's NCAA win vs. Michigan.
I'll take the info he has on his site over the design of his site any day.
IIRC, the 2002 NCAA QF game was the game UHN earned our nickname for them by having their fans hold up their letter cards in the wrong order.
What design?
BTW, how I define it is the USCHO poll. If I am ever successful in finding the pre-USCHO polling from the days of that TV (radio?) station out of Detroit (St. Paul?), I will include that. This would be nice, since it would capture all of those weeks in the 60's when Cornell must have been in the top 2 or 3.
And yes, your memory is correct, that was the immortal UHN game.
I prefer their other nickname: "The University of No Hardware"
Quote from: CowbellGuyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Larry72They usually dress all three goalies -- home and away.
Maybe I've missed it at all the away games that I've been to, but Sue Detzer and I both thought it was funny to see Hogan at an away game.
It's rare for the third goalie to make trips. Usually Colgate is the only regular season away game they'll take all three to, assuming they have three. Travel restrictions might be different for playoff games.
I believe everybody makes the trip for playoff games.
Quote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately I had to call her because now I can't go:`-(, but that means there are tickets at the ticket office if someone needs them.
Say it ain't so! Who's going to provide the Lynah Faithful with Snickers?
Quote from: dbilmesQuote from: Jim HylaUnfortunately I had to call her because now I can't go:`-(, but that means there are tickets at the ticket office if someone needs them.
Say it ain't so! Who's going to provide the Lynah Faithful with Snickers?
The Q ushers would probably heave them anyway.
Like young cops, young programs overreact.
I'm going with a former Q hockey player who is no my 1999 son's T1 coach. Good guy. Free food and beer but I've been encouraged not to wear jeans or red and white colors......
Quote from: RatushnyFanI'm going with a former Q hockey player who is no my 1999 son's T1 coach. Good guy. Free food and beer but I've been encouraged not to wear jeans or red and white colors......
And you're going to agree?::bolt::
Quote from: RatushnyFanI'm going with a former Q hockey player who is no my 1999 son's T1 coach. Good guy. Free food and beer but I've been encouraged not to wear jeans or red and white colors......
Why no jeans? The other part makes sense.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: RatushnyFanI'm going with a former Q hockey player who is no my 1999 son's T1 coach. Good guy. Free food and beer but I've been encouraged not to wear jeans or red and white colors......
Why no jeans? The other part makes sense.
Not Ivy League enough for the ticks.
I've mentioned that I'm not going, but not that I wonder if anyone would bring Snickers for the band, and to throw if you wish. Also newspapers, don't forget your newspapers.
Newspapers were dutifully handed out. Band got to the game about half way through the first period. Don't know why. No Snickers.
Quote from: Larry72Newspapers were dutifully handed out. Band got to the game about half way through the first period. Don't know why. No Snickers.
Thanks, chat was talking about traffic problems.????
Pep band bus had mechanical difficulties, according to band members.
Box Score says attendance 3103. It holds 3286. How in the world could that many ticket holders not show up?
Quote from: Jim HylaBox Score says attendance 3103. It holds 3286. How in the world could that many ticket holders not show up?
It's their break. Maybe they have significant season ticket #s?
Anybody staking out an NYC watch location for Saturday night?
The road playoff record (http://www.tbrw.info/games/cornell_Road_Playoff_Games.html) gets a little better.
Quote from: Jim HylaI've mentioned that I'm not going, but not that I wonder if anyone would bring Snickers for the band, and to throw if you wish. Also newspapers, don't forget your newspapers.
Damn, didn't see this until just now. I was going to offer but didn't want to steal your thing. I even have a bag of them at home.
Quote from: Greenberg '97Quote from: Jim HylaI've mentioned that I'm not going, but not that I wonder if anyone would bring Snickers for the band, and to throw if you wish. Also newspapers, don't forget your newspapers.
Damn, didn't see this until just now. I was going to offer but didn't want to steal your thing. I even have a bag of them at home.
I'll bet they sell them in New Haven. Right next to the batteries.
Quote from: Greenberg '97Quote from: Jim HylaI've mentioned that I'm not going, but not that I wonder if anyone would bring Snickers for the band, and to throw if you wish. Also newspapers, don't forget your newspapers.
Damn, didn't see this until just now. I was going to offer but didn't want to steal your thing. I even have a bag of them at home.
Well, I won't be there tonight either.:`-(Go for it.:-)
Morning news:
CHN (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/tourneyRoundup.php?c=4)
USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/03/15/ferlins-two-power-play-goals-lift-cornell-past-quinnipiac/)
Ithaca Journal (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20130315/SPORTS03/303150087/Cornell-knocks-off-top-ranked-Quinnipiac-Game-1-ECAC-Hockey-quarterfinal)
NewHaven Register (http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2013/03/16/sports/doc5143e0fe31e17499403259.txt)
Any others?
Although I am sure this is posted elsewhere (I didn't have the energy to search), Sat game is televised live on NESN. Let's Go Red!
Quote from: goredAlthough I am sure this is posted elsewhere (I didn't have the energy to search), Sat game is televised live on NESN. Let's Go Red!
"Grrrrr,....!!"
Apparently not in Myrtle Beach!!
Shoulda brought the laptop and not the iPad.
Oh, we'll....
Any word on Axell? Concussion??
Yes, LET'S GO RED!!!!!
::cheer:: ::cheer:: ::cheer::
Quote from: Johnny 5Quote from: goredAlthough I am sure this is posted elsewhere (I didn't have the energy to search), Sat game is televised live on NESN. Let's Go Red!
"Grrrrr,....!!"
Apparently not in Myrtle Beach!!
NESN broadcasts different programming regionally? I would have thought it's the same programming everywhere.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaBox Score says attendance 3103. It holds 3286. How in the world could that many ticket holders not show up?
It's their break. Maybe they have significant season ticket #s?
There were hundreds of empty seats all throughout the rink. The student section was half empty, but that's only a small section. Every time I go to Q and they list a sellout there are hundreds of empty seats.
This is Q's Spring Break. Much to our advantage.
Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: Johnny 5Quote from: goredAlthough I am sure this is posted elsewhere (I didn't have the energy to search), Sat game is televised live on NESN. Let's Go Red!
"Grrrrr,....!!"
Apparently not in Myrtle Beach!!
NESN broadcasts different programming regionally? I would have thought it's the same programming everywhere.
I thought so, too.
Nope.
::bang::
Quote from: Johnny 5Quote from: Jordan 04Quote from: Johnny 5Quote from: goredAlthough I am sure this is posted elsewhere (I didn't have the energy to search), Sat game is televised live on NESN. Let's Go Red!
"Grrrrr,....!!"
Apparently not in Myrtle Beach!!
NESN broadcasts different programming regionally? I would have thought it's the same programming everywhere.
I thought so, too.
Nope.
::bang::
Surprisingly, NESN is not available on some cable networks in Fairfield County, CT. Very strange. That's MSG, YES, and Yankees territory, I suppose.
Will NESN livestream on the PC?
Quote from: drs48Will NESN livestream on the PC?
I think they use Flash, so not on iDevices.
I'll check to see if they stream to PC.
I am doubtful.
Probably too esoteric to expect someone to pop it up on one of the bootleg streaming sites, huh?
Quote from: Jordan 04Probably too esoteric to expect someone to pop it up on one of the bootleg streaming sites, huh?
I'm hoping this might be streaming it, but I have no experience with this:
http://www.livestream.com/nesn
There are other similar sites that Google found.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: Greenberg '97Quote from: Jim HylaI've mentioned that I'm not going, but not that I wonder if anyone would bring Snickers for the band, and to throw if you wish. Also newspapers, don't forget your newspapers.
Damn, didn't see this until just now. I was going to offer but didn't want to steal your thing. I even have a bag of them at home.
Well, I won't be there tonight either.:`-(Go for it.:-)
Neither will I. I'm working late today (probably just late enough to get home too late to start the drive), then the 4-year-old has to be up early tomorrow. To play hockey, though, so it's OK.
Quote from: TrotskyI'll bet they sell them in New Haven. Right next to the batteries.
Yes, yes, that is true. My point was that I was staring at a bag of snickers in my house, thinking, maybe I should bring these...
OK then, who will bring Snickers?:`-(
Bryce Van Brabant has been suspended for tonight's game by the ECAC.
Quote from: CowbellGuyBryce Van Brabant has been suspended for tonight's game by the ECAC.
I assume that's Axell.
Quote from: CowbellGuyBryce Van Brabant has been suspended for tonight's game by the ECAC.
What (and when) was the play? I arrived 5:00 into the first and don't remember seeing anything egregious.
Edit: Reviewing the box score, I guess the elbow at 10:32?
Axell coming back?
Quote from: Greenberg '97Quote from: CowbellGuyBryce Van Brabant has been suspended for tonight's game by the ECAC.
What (and when) was the play? I arrived 5:00 into the first and don't remember seeing anything egregious.
Edit: Reviewing the box score, I guess the elbow at 10:32?
I'm pretty sure there was no penalty on the play when Axell got injured.
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/03/16_quinnipiacs_van_brabant_suspended.php
Quote from: CHNThe ECAC suspended Quinnipiac forward Bryce Van Brabant "in accordance with the League's supplemental discipline process," as the result of his actions in Friday's game against Cornell.
The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in first period in the teams' quarterfinal playoff game. Cornell won Game 1.
Based upon the League's action, Van Brabant is not eligible to compete in Game 2, set for Saturday.
When did Axell go down, first period? Not that the two must be related, but you can add a supplemental penalty for something the on-ice officials missed.
It was the first period.
Quote from: billhowardhttp://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/03/16_quinnipiacs_van_brabant_suspended.phpQuote from: CHNThe ECAC suspended Quinnipiac forward Bryce Van Brabant "in accordance with the League's supplemental discipline process," as the result of his actions in Friday's game against Cornell.
The League action was taken after review of an incident that occurred in first period in the teams' quarterfinal playoff game. Cornell won Game 1.
Based upon the League's action, Van Brabant is not eligible to compete in Game 2, set for Saturday.
When did Axell go down, first period? Not that the two must be related, but you can add a supplemental penalty for something the on-ice officials missed.
I heard something somewhere about Axell getting a puck to his head and possibly got a concussion from it, but I am not sure how accurate that would be. I do know that he changed back into his day clothes and was in the stands by the end of the game last night.
Quote from: Jim HylaOK then, who will bring Snickers?:`-(
Well... Coach Pecknold's facial expressions (when Q is behind) always make ME chuckle. (Rimshot)
Axel got elbowed in the head by Van Brabant. It should have been a 5 minute major and a game DQ but the ref who was 20 feet away was lookng up the ice and didn't see it even though about 2000 other people at the game same exactly what happened.
Quote from: TimVQuote from: Jim HylaOK then, who will bring Snickers?:`-(
Well... Coach Pecknold's facial expressions (when Q is behind) always make ME chuckle. (Rimshot)
Do they still make Chuckles candy?. I think the Snickers tradition will live - hopefully as long as Screw BU.
The bad news for Game 2 is that Q had passed out headache-inducing thunder sticks to try to get their fans to make some noise.
Wow, Iles pulled... There's something you don't see everyday.
Quote from: WillCMJrWow, Iles pulled... There's something you don't see everyday.
Still a treat to finally watch Kanji play.
I think I prefer Iles at this point. This is the worst game I have seen in a very long time. It almost doesn't seem real.
question.. on the 2nd Quin goal. is the player really allowed to stand in the crease in college hockey and wait for a puck to hit his skate?
I starting to suspect that Q does not miss Van Brabant.
I'm watching the Twitter feed, so I'm not really getting a feel of the game. What on earth is happening? Is Cornell playing so badly? Is Quinnipiac that good? Some combo. of the two?
Also, did Iles have an off night, or is it more an issue of Q's offense and/or Cornell's lack of defense?
Yeah, what is the record worst loss for us in an ECAC tournament? This has to be in the top three.
The second game-
Reminds me of the Cornell-BU game in 197? In which BU beat us 9-0 at Lynah. (BU was later forced to forfeit the game, which was Cornell's first loss at Lynah in years) like this one, the game just got away from us. Hopefully we can wake up tomorrow with no hangover and get out act together.
embarrassing
Quote from: ChipJYeah, what is the record worst loss for us in an ECAC tournament? This has to be in the top three.
The record is 0-10 at Quinnipiac.
The record was 0-6 vs Yale, and 3-9 at Michigan.
"Did you see the women get knocked out in overtime?"
"Yeah, that seemed devastating. Let's definitely avoid that."
27 PIMs for McCarron...what's the Cornell record for a single player in a single game?
For those who watched, do you think there will be any suspensions? Any video of the donneybrooks?
Quote from: tretiakFor those who watched, do you think there will be any suspensions? Any video of the donneybrooks?
Would be surprised if there aren't any. McCarron for starters...
Quote from: sah6727 PIMs for McCarron...what's the Cornell record for a single player in a single game?
I'm pretty sure Rob Levasseur got 30 minutes in a game once in the mid '80's.
Q had the rare double major up on the board..........a 10 minute penalty.
That was the worst Cornell game I've ever seen. Period. The one game I get to go to this year, bummer.
If McCarron is out then Russel Goodman should be too. He got two game misconducts on one play and a total of 30 PIM.
If we win by 1 tomorrow we advance to AC after a cumulative -8 goal differential in the series.
That alone is reason to win; it would be hysterical.
Quote from: TrotskyIf we win by 1 tomorrow we advance to AC after a cumulative -8 goal differential in the series.
That alone is reason to win; it would be hysterical.
If the season continues as it has been going, we will win tomorrow, get thrashed 12-0 by Yale in AC, win the consolation and squeak into the NCAAs where Minnesota will pummel us into the ice. Literally.
If nothing else, they need to get Miller two points tomorrow.
Quote from: RatushnyFanQ had the rare double major up on the board..........a 10 minute penalty.
That was the worst Cornell game hockey game sporting event thing I've ever seen. Period. The one game I get to go to this year, bummer.
FYP.
Quote from: TrotskyIf we win by 1 tomorrow we advance to AC after a cumulative -8 goal differential in the series.
That alone is reason to win; it would be hysterical.
Look at the bright side, we move up into a three way tie with BU and Wisconsin for 18th in the pairwise.
Was Andy reinserted simply to spare Kanji further embarrassment? If so, that seems pretty classy as Coach could have easily continued to make Kanji the sacrificial lamb in preparation for tonight's game.
Quote from: tretiakFor those who watched, do you think there will be any suspensions? Any video of the donneybrooks?
I hope so, it should probably include both coaches
Quote from: Jordan 04Was Andy reinserted simply to spare Kanji further embarrassment? If so, that seems pretty classy as Coach could have easily continued to make Kanji the sacrificial lamb in preparation for tonight's game.
That was my take on it, but who knows.
Everything I've seen from Iles tells me he is a tough competitor. I would not be surprised if he advocated to coach to put him back in. It was his game and he would finish it. That said I think it was smart to spare him part of that second period.
Some nice comments about the Red at the bottom of this article:
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/03/16/quinnipiac-crushes-cornell-to-push-series-to-deciding-game-3/
Quote from: BearLoverSome nice comments about the Red at the bottom of this article:
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/03/16/quinnipiac-crushes-cornell-to-push-series-to-deciding-game-3/
Read the comments below.
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: BearLoverSome nice comments about the Red at the bottom of this article:
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/03/16/quinnipiac-crushes-cornell-to-push-series-to-deciding-game-3/
Read the comments below.
I think we've heard from TortReform before, on this forum?
For all who want to complain, there are 6 ECAC teams still playing and we are one of them. Sure we may lose tonight, and the season will have been a disappointment, but would you rather be Clarkson or Harvard? Those are two traditional programs that have had hard times, much more than we've had. I'm sure we'll be in the running for the ECAC crown next year, will they? For that matter, after losing 11 seniors, wil Q?
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: BearLoverSome nice comments about the Red at the bottom of this article:
http://www.uscho.com/recaps/2013/03/16/quinnipiac-crushes-cornell-to-push-series-to-deciding-game-3/
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Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
My take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
Quote from: TrotskyMy take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
If you were Schafer wouldn't you prefer to take a possible fine rather than face the press after last nights performance. A blow out loss and 100 min in the penalty box is not something you really want to talk about.
Quote from: Jordan 04Was Andy reinserted simply to spare Kanji further embarrassment? If so, that seems pretty classy as Coach could have easily continued to make Kanji the sacrificial lamb in preparation for tonight's game.
After watching Omar play the last part of the second period, it was obvious that if he played the third period it was going to get even more lopsided, perhaps 15-0. There's a reason he never played. He wasn't getting much help, but the final goal he gave up was soft.
Speaking of Iles, did anyone else notice that after the first goal he took his helmet off, skated to the bench and came back with a different helmet? Why would he wear the wrong helmet to start the game?
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: TrotskyMy take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
If you were Schafer wouldn't you prefer to take a possible fine rather than face the press after last nights performance. A blow out loss and 100 min in the penalty box is not something you really want to talk about.
If I were Schafer I would go to the interview and stretch it out, leaving the guys in a completely silent locker room dreading my return.
If you are going tonight and don't know, the seating has been rearranged. The CU band and section is being moved from 110 to 116 at the opposite side of the rink. My guess is that with break ending at Q, they want to reclaim their student section.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: TowerroadQuote from: TrotskyMy take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
If you were Schafer wouldn't you prefer to take a possible fine rather than face the press after last nights performance. A blow out loss and 100 min in the penalty box is not something you really want to talk about.
If I were Schafer I would go to the interview and stretch it out, leaving the guys in a completely silent locker room dreading my return.
That has worked so well this year.
Quote from: Chris '03If you are going tonight and don't know, the seating has been rearranged. The CU band and section is being moved from 110 to 116 at the opposite side of the rink. My guess is that with break ending at Q, they want to reclaim their student section.
Talking to some of the bandies after the game, allegedly there was some threatening language coming from the QU student section, and at least one instance of physical contact that made the situation uncomfortable. After the 2nd period ended (with the on-ice melee and all) the band asked arena security for some watchful eyes. I didn't know that at the time, but I did notice some uniformed officers come down the aisles during the 2nd intermission. I'm not aware of any further incidents, but it seems that the section was moved for that reason.
Note that I heard this second-hand, and this is only how I understand it. I didn't notice anything particularly bad myself.
I thought the rest of the team stepped it up a bit after Kanji went in. They actually seemed to control the play a bit, until the inevitable penalty put them behind the 8-ball again (although tecnically they killed the penalty). Also, with 2 defensemen (D'Agostino and McDonald) in the penalty box for the first 12 minutes of the third, it would have been kinda mean to put Kanji back out there.
Quote from: Jordan 04Was Andy reinserted simply to spare Kanji further embarrassment? If so, that seems pretty classy as Coach could have easily continued to make Kanji the sacrificial lamb in preparation for tonight's game.
It's unlikely that Schafer and Family Kanji are these kinds of people, but we all recall middle- or high-school sports where the third string goalie or QB or wide receiver or attackman was actually the best player on the team, certainly the best 5-foot-6, 190-pound player on the team, but the coaches were too dense to see talent when it bit them on the butt. And there is always the temptation to shut up the parents once and for all by letting the kid show his stuff and then get pounded back to reality. The smart coach keeps the kid out so his last memory of senior year is not his woeful performance. And so he doesn't get injured badly.
Schafer saw it wasn't Iles' and Cornell's night, so either let Kanji finish the game if he could hold Q to a goal or two in each period, or give Iles a breather before coming back in to steady himself for Game 3.
Omar deserves some kind of medal for four years of dedication, for playing the opponent goalie in practice, and sticking it out. He's going pro in something other than hockey.
The Q student section was getting pretty obnoxious as their team poured it on, and I did notice the extra security. That's not why the Cornell section has been relocated for tonight's game, though. That decision was made before Game 2 began. The visiting team normally has a section behind its own team's bench, and that's where the Cornell fans usually are during the regular season games. Q must have decided to give their own fans those seats for the first two games of the playoffs.
It will be interesting to see tonight's attendance, since tickets didn't go on sale until after Game 2.
A Cornell fan sitting behind me last night was screaming about how old the age of the Q players was, saying their average age was around 24. Does anyone know if this is true? The Q athletics website doesn't list their players' ages,and even the USCHO site (http://www.uscho.com/stats/roster/quinnipiac/mens-hockey/2012-2013/) is missing the ages of many of the Q players. However, they do have at least five players born in 1988 and one born in 1987.
Quote from: dbilmesA Cornell fan sitting behind me last night was screaming about how old the age of the Q players was, saying their average age was around 24. Does anyone know if this is true? The Q athletics website doesn't list their players' ages,and even the USCHO site (http://www.uscho.com/stats/roster/quinnipiac/mens-hockey/2012-2013/) is missing the ages of many of the Q players. However, they do have at least five players born in 1988 and one born in 1987.
CHN app says 22yr 9mo for Q and 21yr 3mo average for CU.
The roster/birthdays are up to date here: http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/roster.php?td=47
So do we wonder why?
Quote from: Collegehockeystats.net
Penalty Minutes: Games PIM PIM/G
1 Cornell 33 597 18.1
2 Quinnipiac 36 599 16.6
Quote from: Jim HylaSo do we wonder why?
Quote from: Collegehockeystats.net
Penalty Minutes: Games PIM PIM/G
1 Cornell 33 597 18.1
2 Quinnipiac 36 599 16.6
According to uscho we are #1 in PIM/G by a long shot. Q is #2 and we out sat them by 1.5 min/game.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/division-i-men/2012-2013/
Note the big gap between #1 and #2 vs 2 and 3 ect.
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: Jim HylaSo do we wonder why?
Quote from: Collegehockeystats.net
Penalty Minutes: Games PIM PIM/G
1 Cornell 33 597 18.1
2 Quinnipiac 36 599 16.6
According to uscho we are #1 in PIM/G by a long shot. Q is #2 and we out sat them by 1.5 min/game.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/division-i-men/2012-2013/
Note the big gap between #1 and #2 vs 2 and 3 ect.
Isn't that what the stats I posted said?
Quote from: hypotenuseThe second game-
Reminds me of the Cornell-BU game in 197? In which BU beat us 9-0 at Lynah. (BU was later forced to forfeit the game, which was Cornell's first loss at Lynah in years) like this one, the game just got away from us. Hopefully we can wake up tomorrow with no hangover and get out act together.
I remember that game all-too-well. 'Round about 5-0 last night, I started looking for a Decloe on the QU roster. No such luck.
Quote from: Jim HylaSo do we wonder why?
Quote from: Collegehockeystats.net
Penalty Minutes: Games PIM PIM/G
1 Cornell 33 597 18.1
2 Quinnipiac 36 599 16.6
That's the thing. Quinnipiac's team is not full of a bunch of church mice. They've gotten into a few donnybrooks this year, and there have been some other games full of penalties. (Take a look at their last game against Yale; take a look at their last game against Colgate.)
Sure, our team is a bit thuggish this year, but Quinnipiac responded in kind last night.
No player should take a run at another the way that Goodman (a senior, mind you) took a run at Ryan—our hands down best defenseman—last night. That's why he got a double major, which I've never before seen handed out, and that's why he should've gotten a game DQ. If the refs hadn't been such ninnies, they would've handed out a DQ to each team after the fight at the end of the second and then said, "Who else wants to sit tomorrow night?" That would've ended it. (Or at least game misconducts for everyone. I had hoped that McCarron, in particular, was going to get a gamer, since he doesn't respond well to these situations. No matter how much I like the way he pests for us, I didn't want to see him get injured in the 3rd.) Instead, they handed out multiple 2s and 10s, which you just
knew were going to lead to more extracurriculars in the 3rd. If that's a policy handed down from on high by Stewart, the ECAC's head of officials, it's a stupid policy that removes any chance for refs to take control of a potentially explosive situation.
People here are a bit naive about fighting in hockey and why it happens. That kind of hit could've ended Ryan's season—perhaps his career. I've seen it happen in the past, and I've seen Schafer respond similarly. I remember seeing Jason Kendall get a signal to knock some sense into a guy at Brown once, and I'm sure Craig got that signal last night. Good for Schafer, and good for him. Pecknold should've called off the dogs. He didn't. What else are you going to do?
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: Jim HylaSo do we wonder why?
Quote from: Collegehockeystats.net
Penalty Minutes: Games PIM PIM/G
1 Cornell 33 597 18.1
2 Quinnipiac 36 599 16.6
According to uscho we are #1 in PIM/G by a long shot. Q is #2 and we out sat them by 1.5 min/game.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/overall/division-i-men/2012-2013/
Note the big gap between #1 and #2 vs 2 and 3 ect.
Not quoted but easily calculated: Cornell also leads in minutes/penalty, followed closely by Q, with #3 and the rest way behind.
Quote from: Scersk '97Sure, our team is a bit thuggish this year, but Quinnipiac responded in kind last night. No player should take a run at another the way that Goodman (a senior, mind you) took a run at Ryan—our hands down best defenseman—last night. That's why he got a double major, which I've never before seen handed out, and that's why he should've gotten a game DQ.
Schafer actually mentioned in the pre-game before Game 2 that playing Q is like playing an inter-squad game; they play a brand of hockey very similar to ours.
We will see what our team is made of tonight. Was Friday or Saturday the anomaly?
As much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting. In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game. But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant. Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.
"The Code" is bullshit.
the key today is get a good 1st period either tied or ahead and playing well.
Quote from: TrotskyAs much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting. In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game. But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant. Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.
It seems to me as if refs aren't empowered—by their
league supervisor?—to take control of playoff games, however. If there isn't adequate supervision
during the game, what are you supposed to do? In my opinion, a few game misconducts would've lead to a very placid 3rd.
Yeah, I don't like to watch headhunting and idiocy either, but what are you supposed to do? Dias should've gotten an immediate DQ. Goodman should've gotten an immediate DQ.
Craig got a two and ten for his headhunting charge. Yeesh.
Do we have any DQ'ed for tonight?
Quote from: dpdDo we have any DQ'ed for tonight?
The box says no, but there could always be tapes going to the league office (by either team).
Quote from: Scersk '97Quote from: TrotskyAs much as I like Old Time Hockey and Eddie Shore, you do not send out a headhunter to foil headhunting. In a league with fighting, you do send a fighter -- that's part of the game. But in our league, you send the tape to the league office and get the kid suspended, just like Schafer did with van Brabant. Vigilantism only screws you because you wind up getting nailed for retaliation, not to mention the risk to your own players from further escalation.
It seems to me as if refs aren't empowered—by their league supervisor?—to take control of playoff games, however. If there isn't adequate supervision during the game, what are you supposed to do? In my opinion, a few game misconducts would've lead to a very placid 3rd.
Yeah, I don't like to watch headhunting and idiocy either, but what are you supposed to do? Dias should've gotten an immediate DQ. Goodman should've gotten an immediate DQ. Craig got a two and ten for his headhunting charge. Yeesh.
Bear in mind that when their guy crosschecks our guy apparently "out of nowhere," it's most likely because our guy crosschecked their guy behind the play and we didn't see it. That's why vendettas are endless.
Quote from: rdez79the key today is get a good 1st period either tied or ahead and playing well.
Or fall behind but come back to win like we did just 2 nights ago against the same opponent.
The only cliché that applies tonight is "win or go home."
Quote from: TrotskyMy take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
Quote from: TrotskyMy take was putting AI back in was Schafer underlining that pulling Andy in the first place had nothing to do with Andy.
Did Schafer have any post-game comments? Does the ECAC fine a coach who refuses to do interviews?
Schafer was quoted in USCHO article.