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Title: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Chris '03 on November 25, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. http://www.uscho.com/stats/interconference/division-i-men/2012-2013/ The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 26, 2012, 07:19:39 AM
Quote from: Chris '03Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. http://www.uscho.com/stats/interconference/division-i-men/2012-2013/ The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.

And at least a little beyond.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on November 26, 2012, 09:51:09 AM
It makes a huge difference.  Look at PWR (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise-rankings/d-i-men/) right now:

3. Dartmouth
5. Yale
6. Union
12. Quinnipiac
13. Harvard
---
18. Cornell
21. SLU
22. Colgate

The conference could be headed for 4 teams in the NCAAs (http://www.tbrw.info/ncaa_Tournament/ncaa_Tournament_frame.html) for the first time since the Hockey East split after 1984.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ftyuv on November 26, 2012, 10:37:21 AM
I was talking about this with a friend after Cornell kicked Michigan's ass even though we've struggled against ECAC teams (plus our 4 points against CC). Could it be the ECAC is really good this year?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on November 26, 2012, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: ftyuvI was talking about this with a friend after Cornell kicked Michigan's ass even though we've struggled against ECAC teams (plus our 4 points against CC). Could it be the ECAC is really good this year?
I leave it to younger, more flexible brains to be able to adapt to that kind of revolutionary concept.  ;)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ursusminor on November 26, 2012, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: Chris '03Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. http://www.uscho.com/stats/interconference/division-i-men/2012-2013/ The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.
 

Could someone explain the algorithm used for the decimal fractions beneath each "league vs. league" record?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: jkahn on November 26, 2012, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Chris '03Don't look now, but the ECAC has put together its best OOC season in a long while so far this year.

There's a long way to go, but the ECAC is sporting a 30-16-2 OOC record and is 16-12-5 vs. "big three" opponents. http://www.uscho.com/stats/interconference/division-i-men/2012-2013/ The ECAC is the only conference that can brag that it's at or over .500 against all other conferences.

Let's hope the trend holds through the holiday tournament season.
 

Could someone explain the algorithm used for the decimal fractions beneath each "league vs. league" record?
In the total column on the right, it's winning percentage.  In the other columns, it's bad programming.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 26, 2012, 11:26:52 PM
I've also got that broken down by team (http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?ecac.nonconf).
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: adamw on November 26, 2012, 11:37:33 PM
Quote from: jkahnIn the total column on the right, it's winning percentage.  In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php

Thank you :)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ursusminor on November 27, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: jkahnIn the total column on the right, it's winning percentage.  In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php

Thank you :)

So, the way to get around bad programming is not to program at all. :)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on November 27, 2012, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: adamw
Quote from: jkahnIn the total column on the right, it's winning percentage.  In the other columns, it's bad programming.

You could always try here instead ...

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/reports/standings-interconf.php

Thank you :)

So, the way to get around bad programming is not to program at all. :)
As Bill Lear (founder of Learjet) said of design simplicity, "You never have to fix anything you leave out."
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Larry72 on November 27, 2012, 05:46:33 PM
I'm definitely showing my age - Lear also invented the eight track tape cartridge (the iPod/Mp3 player of the 1960s) and the radio direction finder.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: marty on November 27, 2012, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: Larry72I'm definitely showing my age - Lear also invented the eight track tape cartridge (the iPod/Mp3 player of the 1960s) and the radio direction finder.

And it was after inventing the eight track that he realized that "You never have to fix anything you leave out."  These were hilariously unreliable.  My wife's aunt even owned a Panasonic eight track recorder which I never was able to resuscitate in spite of many repair attempts.

The only thing more out of place in a car might have been this:(http://shenews.projo.com/10/e56urdt6urst5e.jpg)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on November 27, 2012, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: martyThe only thing more out of place in a car might have been this
More of a blondes guy?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Chris '03 on December 09, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
If the season ended today, there would be six ECAC teams in the tournament with Colgate being first team out. Harvard is 16 but Niagara, presumptive AHA rep, is 14.


Rk   
1   Boston College   
2   New Hampshire   
3   Dartmouth   
4   Notre Dame   
5   Boston University   
6   Quinnipiac   
7   Western Michigan   
8   Yale   
9   Cornell   
10   Miami   
11   North Dakota
12   Minnesota
13   Union
14   Niagara   
15   Denver   
16   Harvard
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: css228 on December 10, 2012, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: Chris '03If the season ended today, there would be six ECAC teams in the tournament with Colgate being first team out. Harvard is 16 but Niagara, presumptive AHA rep, is 14.


Rk   
1   Boston College   
2   New Hampshire   
3   Dartmouth   
4   Notre Dame   
5   Boston University   
6   Quinnipiac   
7   Western Michigan   
8   Yale   
9   Cornell   
10   Miami   
11   North Dakota
12   Minnesota
13   Union
14   Niagara   
15   Denver   
16   Harvard
Like I said when I heard Torres scored a brace the other day. No f'n way.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13 - looking up
Post by: billhoward on December 10, 2012, 09:41:09 AM
This could be another December to remember where nothing helps our poll standings as not playing.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on December 10, 2012, 10:07:02 AM
So far, the ECAC has only played 61 inter-conference games (as distinct from non-conference games) and has 37 remaining.  The results are definitely encouraging, but let's not be counting chickens.  IF we keep up our current .595 win % vs the Big 4 and IF our top teams don't start gacking up conference games to the bottom feeders, 4 teams is likely and 5 would be possible.  On the other hand, a bad showing over Christmas (and there are quite a number of games against the BUs, BCs, and UNHs of the world) and we'll be right back to 2 maybe 3 as per usual.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 10, 2012, 10:23:29 AM
I have no hard data to back up this claim, but my instinct is that several times over the past few seasons the ECAC has gotten out of the gate well only to get destroyed over the Christmas break.  I really hope this year is different and the league holds up, and I think there are a couple systemic effects that are encouraging (1 - the gap between Haves and Have Nots in the ECAC has closed, 2 - the rest of the NCAA power teams except for BC seem to have come back to the pack).

We Ancients who enjoyed the ECAC's short-lived superiority over HE in the wake of the Great Divorce have been waiting more than 20 years for the ECAC to get back to parity with the other big conferences.  We may be getting there (I mean, Notre Dame is 12-0, so anything can happen), but I'm going to remain somewhat pessimistic until after New Year's Day.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 10, 2012, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: RobbSo far, the ECAC has only played 61 inter-conference games (as distinct from non-conference games) and has 37 remaining.

I came up with 39 remaining interconference games (ignoring Union-RPI non-conference game).  Of those, only 15 are against current TUCs (16 depending on outcome of Beanpot first round).  At least 7 (up to 9 depending on holiday tournament outcomes) against the WCHA, 17 (up to 19) against Hockey East, only 3 against the CCHA, and 10 against Atlantic Hockey.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on December 10, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
You're probably right - I did a quick manual scan through the upcoming games, so it's not too surprising if I missed a couple.  I had 7 or 8 against WCHA, 16 or 17 against HEA, and matched your CCHA and AHA games.  Either way, there are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: marty on December 11, 2012, 09:00:33 AM
Quote from: Trotsky(I mean, Notre Dame is 12-0 FOOTBALL  , so anything can happen)

FYP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God and touchdown Jesus help me if they ever go undefeated in hockey.::yark::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 11, 2012, 10:05:23 AM
When one says "Notre Dame," football is logically implied.  The term has no meaning in any other context.

It's like "Harvard" and "sucking."
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 11, 2012, 10:12:30 AM
Quote from: Robbthere are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.

And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on December 11, 2012, 10:18:20 AM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Robbthere are still a lot of inter-conference games to go.

And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.
Looks like they did it with class, too - 9 penalties for 34 minutes and they gave up a 5x3 powerplay goal in the last minute of the game.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 11, 2012, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: nyc94And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent.  They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 11, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: nyc94And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent.  They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.

Unfortunately for them, that's all they have left on their non-conference schedule: Northeastern and BU followed by BC in the first round of the Beanpot and the Beanpot consolation game.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ugarte on December 11, 2012, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: nyc94And Harvard kicks things off with a 5-0 loss at home to Lowell thus dropping Harvard off the bubble and down to 23 while making Lowell a TUC.

Massachusetts HE opponent.  They're just getting in form for the Beanpot.

Unfortunately for them, that's all they have left on their non-conference schedule: Northeastern and BU followed by BC in the first round of the Beanpot and the Beanpot consolation game.
Two losses to Northeastern are not going to help the league.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on December 15, 2012, 09:55:03 PM
Neither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst.  Ouch.  Thanks for nothing, North Country!
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 15, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Quote from: RobbNeither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst.  Ouch.  Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 17, 2012, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RobbNeither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst.  Ouch.  Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan.  CC was swept by St. Cloud.  Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th).  CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC.  Maine and Duluth aren't either.  The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 18, 2012, 07:42:07 AM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RobbNeither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst.  Ouch.  Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan.  CC was swept by St. Cloud.  Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th).  CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC.  Maine and Duluth aren't either.  The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.

Which says we've got to win our OOC games, because our playoff potential is going to ride on our W-L percentage and not much else.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on December 18, 2012, 07:51:46 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: RobbNeither are two losses to Vermont and Mercyhurst.  Ouch.  Thanks for nothing, North Country!

Sucky weekend of results for Cornell so far.

Michigan, Ferris and CC lose, Denver ties Bemidji, and the North Country drop a pair of NC games.

Michigan salvaged a split with Western Michigan.  CC was swept by St. Cloud.  Denver dropped their second game with Bemidji.

Ferris is now the last TUC (27th).  CC is 26th. Michigan is not a TUC.  Maine and Duluth aren't either.  The non-conference schedule looked good on paper.

Which says we've got to win our OOC games, because our playoff potential is going to ride on our W-L percentage and not much else.
Except that as of now, it looks like our SOS will actually be boosted by our *conference* games, so there's that.  5 of the top 13 teams are from the ECAC right now - crazy (that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ftyuv on December 18, 2012, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: Robb(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).
Red-White game doesn't count?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 18, 2012, 10:53:43 AM
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Robb(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).
Red-White game doesn't count?

No, but the Princeton game should.  They beat themselves.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: jtn27 on December 18, 2012, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Robb(that includes Cornell, of course, so we only get to play 4 of them).
Red-White game doesn't count?

It does, but the loss from that game cancels out the win.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ursusminor on December 27, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
One down and four to go before RPI gets back to the tough competition. :)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 28, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Hopefully our holiday tournament performance will be a little better than years past (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Holiday_Tournaments.html).
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Rita on December 29, 2012, 12:22:53 AM
Quote from: TrotskyHopefully our holiday tournament performance will be a little better than years past (http://www.tbrw.info/?/games/cornell_Holiday_Tournaments.html).

Thank you. Jeff and I were wondering when our last "first game" win in Estero was. We knew you would have the answer :).
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 29, 2012, 11:51:22 AM
Six ECAC teams in action today. edit:And they go 1-4-1. Ouch.

Nebraska-Omaha at Quinnipiac, 12 PM ET - Q wins 5-4
Brown vs. Minnesota State in UConn Hockey Classic, 4 PM ET - Minnesota State wins 3-1
Princeton vs. Merrimack in Catamount Cup, 4 PM ET - 2-2 F OT
Union at Vermont in Catamount Cup, 7 PM ET Vermont wins 2-1
Northeastern at Harvard, 7 PM ET Northeastern wins 5-1
Cornell vs. Maine, 7 PM ET Maine wins 6-4

Also of interest tonight is BU at Denver, 7 PM MT Denver wins 6-0

RPI lost at St. Cloud Friday night, 2-1, to split the series
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: andyw2100 on December 29, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
For some reason the CHN mobile app isn't showing the Qunnipiac game as even taking place. The CHN website has the game listed in the "live scoreboard" section, but with no score. I checked the free video, available below, and Qunnipiac is up 4-3 heading into the third.

http://www.necfrontrow.com/webcast.php/QU-590/
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 29, 2012, 01:38:18 PM
Quote from: andyw2100For some reason the CHN mobile app isn't showing the Qunnipiac game as even taking place. The CHN website has the game listed in the "live scoreboard" section, but with no score. I checked the free video, available below, and Qunnipiac is up 4-3 heading into the third.

http://www.necfrontrow.com/webcast.php/QU-590/

No updates on USCHO either.  QU up 5-4 about halfway through the 3rd on Livestats: http://livestats.prestosports.com/quinnipiac/mice/?e=7r8m2lya4lr97qgs
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: andyw2100 on December 29, 2012, 02:00:15 PM
Quinnipiac won 5-4.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 30, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
Quinnipiac and Dartmouth are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise.  Yale is 7 and Cornell 12.  Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid.

(Edited to reflect Quinipiac's sweep of UNO caused them to swap places with Dartmouth.)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ursusminor on December 30, 2012, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: nyc94Dartmouth and Quinnipiac are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise.  Yale is 7 and Cornell 12.  Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid..

As much as I root against Union, 16th is currently in the tourney because RMU of the AHA is 13th.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: nyc94 on December 30, 2012, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: nyc94Dartmouth and Quinnipiac are 3 and 4, respectively, in Pairwise.  Yale is 7 and Cornell 12.  Union is 16 and would be out of the tournament if the season ended today due to Atlantic Hockey autobid.

As much as I root against Union, 16th is currently in the tourney because RMU of the AHA is 13th.

My bad.  I had only been paying attention to Niagara.  RMU really moved up this weekend.

edit: Actually, it depends how you look at it.  When Jayson Moy does "Bracketology" on USCHO he awards the autobid to whichever team is in first place. Niagara is in first place in Atlantic Hockey by a large margin (9-0-1 for 19 points in league games, 10-3-4 overall ) but 19 in Pairwise.  RMU is way back in the Atlantic Hockey standings at 4-3-1 for 9 points (9-4-2 overall).  I think if Moy wrote that column today both RMU and Niagara would be in and Union would be out.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on December 31, 2012, 09:58:50 AM
For those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 31, 2012, 02:56:36 PM
Quote from: TrotskyFor those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

I remember 1980.:-)
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ursusminor on January 01, 2013, 04:35:51 AM
Quote from: TrotskyFor those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

They couldn't stand the success.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 01, 2013, 07:30:06 AM
Dartmouth comes down to earth, losing to UMass 3-2. (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2012-13/Game_Stories/20123112_Dartmouth_UMass)

QuoteIn all, 23 penalties were called, totaling 87 minutes. That figure included two game misconducts (one aside), three five-minute majors and four 10-minute misconducts.

Each team got a SH and UMass had two on PP.

They're now 4th in PWR. I posted the new PWR on polls thread.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 01, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyFor those of us who remember Dartmouth in the 80's and 90's, this morning's PWR is the equivalent of hell freezing over.

I remember 1980.:-)

I do too.  My favorite memory is Bob Gaudet trying to shoot a puck at us during warm-ups in the Boston Garden because he got tired of us calling him an ugly sieve.

Well he was.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 02, 2013, 05:35:21 PM
So you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.


1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/01/02/offenses-slow-to-return-from-break-as-ccha-takes-its-lumps-in-holiday-tournaments/#ixzz2GrNHL11y


No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: css228 on January 02, 2013, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaSo you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.


1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/01/02/offenses-slow-to-return-from-break-as-ccha-takes-its-lumps-in-holiday-tournaments/#ixzz2GrNHL11y


No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.
How does our league KRACH look?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 02, 2013, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jim HylaSo you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.


1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/01/02/offenses-slow-to-return-from-break-as-ccha-takes-its-lumps-in-holiday-tournaments/#ixzz2GrNHL11y


No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.
How does our league KRACH look?

I don't know if you were being serious or not, but here's it from CHN. No, I'm not going to clean it up, I do too much of that with the polls each week.::help::


Rk Team KRACH Record Sched Strength
Rating RRWP Rk W-L-T Pct Ratio Rk SOS
1 Boston College 733.4 .8554 2 12-3-1 .7812 3.571 2 205.3
2 New Hampshire 635.7 .8379 4 12-3-2 .7647 3.250 3 195.6
3 Boston University 467.8 .7955 15 10-6-0 .6250 1.667 1 280.7
4 Quinnipiac 435.3 .7846 1 14-3-2 .7895 3.750 27 116.1
5 Notre Dame 432.2 .7835 3 14-4-0 .7778 3.500 20 123.5
6 Dartmouth 393.3 .7686 8 8-3-2 .6923 2.250 5 174.8
7 Minnesota 361.3 .7547 5 13-3-3 .7632 3.222 29 112.1
8 North Dakota 282.3 .7117 14 10-5-3 .6389 1.769 7 159.6
9 Denver 236.8 .6788 18 10-6-3 .6053 1.533 9 154.4
10 Miami 224.8 .6688 7 12-4-4 .7000 2.333 37 96.4
11 St. Cloud State 213.9 .6590 19 12-8-0 .6000 1.500 12 142.6
12 Yale 211.2 .6565 16T 7-4-2 .6154 1.600 13 132.0
13 Minnesota State 199.1 .6448 12 12-6-2 .6500 1.857 32 107.2
14 Cornell 191.2 .6367 16T 7-4-2 .6154 1.600 21 119.5
15 Robert Morris 177.2 .6213 10T 9-4-2 .6667 2.000 43 88.6
16 Western Michigan 173.9 .6174 10T 11-5-2 .6667 2.000 45 87.0
17 Mass.-Lowell 171.9 .6149 24T 7-7-1 .5000 1.000 6 171.9
18 Nebraska-Omaha 168.2 .6104 20 11-8-1 .5750 1.353 18 124.3
19 Union 162.3 .6031 13 9-4-4 .6471 1.833 44 88.5
20 Colgate 161.3 .6018 22 9-7-2 .5556 1.250 15 129.1


Not bad.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: css228 on January 02, 2013, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jim HylaSo you still think the ECAC gets no respect? Here's Paula Weston's, USCHO CCHA columnist, ballot for their poll.


1. Minnesota
2. Boston College
3. Notre Dame
4. New Hampshire
5. Denver
6. Miami
7. Boston University
8. North Dakota
9. Quinnipiac
10. Dartmouth
11. Western Michigan
12. Nebraska-Omaha
13. St. Cloud State
14. Minnesota State
15. Union
16. Cornell
17. Robert Morris
18. Ferris State
19. Niagara
20. Holy Cross

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2013/01/02/offenses-slow-to-return-from-break-as-ccha-takes-its-lumps-in-holiday-tournaments/#ixzz2GrNHL11y


No, I don't think I want to read more. In a year when we have a good OOC league record and good pairwise, probably the same thing, we can hardly break the top ten.
How does our league KRACH look?

I don't know if you were being serious or not, but here's it from CHN. No, I'm not going to clean it up, I do too much of that with the polls each week.::help::


Rk Team KRACH Record Sched Strength
Rating RRWP Rk W-L-T Pct Ratio Rk SOS
1 Boston College 733.4 .8554 2 12-3-1 .7812 3.571 2 205.3
2 New Hampshire 635.7 .8379 4 12-3-2 .7647 3.250 3 195.6
3 Boston University 467.8 .7955 15 10-6-0 .6250 1.667 1 280.7
4 Quinnipiac 435.3 .7846 1 14-3-2 .7895 3.750 27 116.1
5 Notre Dame 432.2 .7835 3 14-4-0 .7778 3.500 20 123.5
6 Dartmouth 393.3 .7686 8 8-3-2 .6923 2.250 5 174.8
7 Minnesota 361.3 .7547 5 13-3-3 .7632 3.222 29 112.1
8 North Dakota 282.3 .7117 14 10-5-3 .6389 1.769 7 159.6
9 Denver 236.8 .6788 18 10-6-3 .6053 1.533 9 154.4
10 Miami 224.8 .6688 7 12-4-4 .7000 2.333 37 96.4
11 St. Cloud State 213.9 .6590 19 12-8-0 .6000 1.500 12 142.6
12 Yale 211.2 .6565 16T 7-4-2 .6154 1.600 13 132.0
13 Minnesota State 199.1 .6448 12 12-6-2 .6500 1.857 32 107.2
14 Cornell 191.2 .6367 16T 7-4-2 .6154 1.600 21 119.5
15 Robert Morris 177.2 .6213 10T 9-4-2 .6667 2.000 43 88.6
16 Western Michigan 173.9 .6174 10T 11-5-2 .6667 2.000 45 87.0
17 Mass.-Lowell 171.9 .6149 24T 7-7-1 .5000 1.000 6 171.9
18 Nebraska-Omaha 168.2 .6104 20 11-8-1 .5750 1.353 18 124.3
19 Union 162.3 .6031 13 9-4-4 .6471 1.833 44 88.5
20 Colgate 161.3 .6018 22 9-7-2 .5556 1.250 15 129.1


Not bad.
Better than I thought it would. I think you're right her bracket was a bit harsh, but I tend to put more stock in KRACH than PWR when it comes to rating teams, so I'd probably hold off on declaring ECAC Hockey the best conference in the country or anything crazy like that.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on January 02, 2013, 06:17:10 PM
The funny thing is, Paula should know better.  She's been posting about college hockey forever and unlike many of the troops enlisted in that effort she's... how shall I put this?... not stupid.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 05, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
Quote from: TrotskyThe funny thing is, Paula should know better.  She's been posting about college hockey forever and unlike many of the troops enlisted in that effort she's... how shall I put this?... not stupid.

Maybe she knew something we didn't. For the ECAC, a dismal start to the weekend. I'll take the blame. Q is second in PWR. Dartmouth 7, and Yale 12. We're hanging in at 15.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on January 09, 2013, 08:57:16 PM
Harvard trails BU 5-2 in the third, looking in top shape for their annual Beanpot SF loss.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 09, 2013, 09:12:29 PM
5-4 now
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ugarte on January 09, 2013, 09:29:50 PM
Tied at 5.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Robb on January 09, 2013, 09:36:50 PM
Who gave them permission not to suck?  6-5 Harvard in OT.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 09, 2013, 09:36:54 PM
Hvd wins 6-5
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Redscore on January 09, 2013, 09:49:56 PM
Wow!  I don't want to get in more trouble than I already am on this forum, but its nice to see a team that can score, even if its Harvard.  Hey, I hate the Hockey East even more than Sucks!
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 10, 2013, 09:15:29 AM
Quote from: RedscoreWow!  I don't want to get in more trouble than I already am on this forum, but its nice to see a team that can score, even if its Harvard.  Hey, I hate the Hockey East even more than Sucks!

Yeah! Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.
Now, if only we could beat somebody!?

::help::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on January 10, 2013, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 10, 2013, 12:25:34 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Josh '99 on January 10, 2013, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
The Rockefeller Center Rink is 122 feet long and 59 feet wide, which would seem to play into the Schafer style quite well.  ::uptosomething::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: KeithK on January 10, 2013, 12:33:07 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 10, 2013, 12:45:31 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Trotsky on January 10, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Johnny 5 on January 10, 2013, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ftyuv on January 11, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: RichH on January 11, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jerseygirl on January 11, 2013, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

Post-Giuliani, you're gonna have to go all the way out to the West Side Highway for that.
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 14, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.

What?  Nobody thought about a "butt-ending" penalty?
Title: Re: ECAC OOC Performance 12-13
Post by: ftyuv on January 14, 2013, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ftyuv
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Johnny 5
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Johnny 5Plus, it gives the Ancient Eight a "little" more credibility.

For hockey it's the Senescent Six.

Yes, I forgot that we absorbed the Penn squad.
Are there no rinks in NYC?
Maybe Rockefeller Center??

::doh::
Think of the clutching and grabbing that would be possible at 49th and 5th!

Not to mention the spearing!!??

::woot::

It NYC, so: charging.

And, of course.....unsportsmanlike conduct!

::flipc::

What, nodbody's going to talk about the hooking opportunities?

I hear it's not unheard of for a "holding the stick" penalty.

What?  Nobody thought about a "butt-ending" penalty?

We were all too focused on the matching minors.