ELynah Forum

General Category => Other Sports => Topic started by: dbilmes on May 12, 2012, 06:25:35 PM

Title: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: dbilmes on May 12, 2012, 06:25:35 PM
Interesting article in NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/sports/college-lacrosse-considers-shot-clock-to-speed-games.html?_r=1) this week about growing sentiment for a shot clock in college lacrosse. Would that help or hurt Cornell?
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: marty on May 13, 2012, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: dbilmesInteresting article in NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/sports/college-lacrosse-considers-shot-clock-to-speed-games.html?_r=1) this week about growing sentiment for a shot clock in college lacrosse. Would that help or hurt Cornell?

Yes and no.::smashfreak::
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: jtn27 on May 13, 2012, 02:58:57 PM
I'm not sure whether it would help Cornell or not, but a shot clock does sound like it would make the game more interesting. If they do institute it, it should just be a simple 60 second shot clock, not a third second one that starts after a stall warning (which was one of the possibilities mentioned in the article).
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: Johnny 5 on May 22, 2012, 04:46:32 PM
Curious. That definitely would speed things up.
But, the kids would get at lot less time to breathe.
Would it work at the high school level where a team doesn't have an unlimited number of subs available??

::thud::
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: Swampy on May 22, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
Quote from: Johnny 5Curious. That definitely would speed things up.
But, the kids would get at lot less time to breathe.
Would it work at the high school level where a team doesn't have an unlimited number of subs available??

::thud::

Back in the old days, midfielders ran the entire field and played both offense and defense. So teams would typically run 3 or even 4 midfields. Defense and attack could rest while the ball was at the other end, so typically a team would need 5-6 players at attack, with 1-2 of them riding the pine, and a similar number at defense. If one team dominated, it would have to play more attackers, but then the score would be such that weaker players could get off their butts. The situation was reversed for a team that was being dominated.

A shot clock might not speed things up that much from a personnel standpoint. A shot leading to a turnover would allow teams to change roles and give attackers or defenders a rest. With midfielders specializing in offense or defense, they too will get a rest (providing the previously defending team clears the ball). A shot clock would favor a team with strong ball control (faceoffs, rides, etc.) because it can spend more time in the attacking zone and it's easier (less dangerous) to sub while your team's on attack. A shot clock would also slightly favor teams with more depth, which may put teams like Cornell at a disadvantage because we depend on blue-collar guys with potential rather than dozens of high-school AA's, and we give them a year or two to ripen.

At the high-school level it actually might be a good thing because it would give more kids a chance to play and develop sooner. (Pannell apparently didn't really begin to excel until his senior year in high school.)
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: Jim Hyla on September 30, 2012, 09:19:48 AM
As close as we'll get to a shot clock for 2 years. Two articles on the rule changes from the Syracuse Post-Standard/Syracuse.com. First from Coach Desko (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2012/09/desko_says_rules_changes_comin.html) and then from Colgate's Peter Baum. (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2012/09/baum_and_shooting_stars_in_lac.html)
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: David Harding on September 30, 2012, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaAs close as we'll get to a shot clock for 2 years. Two articles on the rule changes from the Syracuse Post-Standard/Syracuse.com. First from Coach Desko (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2012/09/desko_says_rules_changes_comin.html) and then from Colgate's Peter Baum. (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2012/09l/baum_and_shooting_stars_in_lac.html)
DeLuca is also quoted in the first article, Pannel in both.
Title: Re: Shot clock for college lacrosse
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on October 01, 2012, 12:38:17 PM
Eliminating face-offs again?  It didn't work the last time.  Why do it again?