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Title: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 29, 2011, 08:18:57 PM
I've also attached the full ECAC schedule.


Cornell Men's Hockey 2012-2013

Sat 10/13 Red-White
Fri 10/19 US National U-18
Sat 10/20 Brock U
Fri 10/26 Colorado College
Sat 10/27 Colorado College
Fri 11/02 @Colgate
Sat 11/03 Colgate
Fri 11/09 @Princeton
Sat 11/10 @Quinnipiac
Fri 11/16 Harvard
Sat 11/17 Dartmouth

Sat 11/24 U Mich MSG 8PM
Fri 11/30 Clarkson
Sat 12/01 St. Lawrence
Fri 12/28 Ferris @Fla 4PM
Sat 12/29 ?Who @Fla ?When
Fri  1/04 @Denver 9:30 PM
Sat  1/05 @Denver 9 PM
Fri  1/18 @Union
Sat  1/19 @Rensselaer
Fri  1/25 Yale
Sat  1/26 Brown
Fri  2/01 @St. Lawrence
Sat  2/02 @Clarkson
Fri  2/08 Quinnipiac
Sat  2/09 Princeton
Fri  2/15 @Dartmouth
Sat  2/16 @Harvard
Fri  2/22 Rensselaer
Sat  2/23 Union
Fri  3/01 @Brown
Sat  3/02 @Yale

Fri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals

Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on December 30, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
I have a problem with it. You spelled Rensselaer wrong the second time. ::whistle::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 04, 2012, 01:52:22 PM
I do too.  You spelled RPI wrong both times. (And CCT...)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 04, 2012, 04:55:32 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97I do too.  You spelled RPI wrong both times. (And CCT...)

At least we're not playing UNH.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: rmandel on January 05, 2012, 03:31:00 AM
Looks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/scherr-131160-conference-former.html
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 05, 2012, 07:38:50 AM
Quote from: rmandelLooks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/scherr-131160-conference-former.html

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 05, 2012, 10:46:30 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: rmandelLooks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/scherr-131160-conference-former.html

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006. (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/schedules/corm)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 05, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: rmandelLooks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/scherr-131160-conference-former.html

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006. (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/schedules/corm)

But I don't think CC is the best school to start against. Assuming the earliest we can play is the weekend of 10/19, that means we'd have one weekend of games before them and they would have had three.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on January 05, 2012, 01:58:06 PM
They have the 1/6-7 weekend carved out for Cornell this year.  Maybe that will be the Lynah weekend next year.  Not so good for the fans, but better for the team for the reason you mentioned.

QuoteNext October, the Tigers are slated to host Clarkson and travel to Air Force and Cornell.

Edit: Well, that doesn't sound so good.  The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26.  CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 05, 2012, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThey have the 1/6-7 weekend carved out for Cornell this year.  Maybe that will be the Lynah weekend next year.  Not so good for the fans, but better for the team for the reason you mentioned.

QuoteNext October, the Tigers are slated to host Clarkson and travel to Air Force and Cornell.

Edit: Well, that doesn't sound so good.  The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26.  CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.

So which is it? Or, is it not sounding good, but seeing great?:-D
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on January 05, 2012, 03:37:57 PM
I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rita on January 05, 2012, 03:49:21 PM
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on January 05, 2012, 05:40:37 PM
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 06, 2012, 12:59:14 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: rmandelLooks like a visit from Colorado College next season.

http://www.gazette.com/sports/scherr-131160-conference-former.html

Thanks, but I hope they don't literally mean we'll be playing them in October.

It's happened before, say, in 2006. (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/schedules/corm)

But I don't think CC is the best school to start against. Assuming the earliest we can play is the weekend of 10/19, that means we'd have one weekend of games before them and they would have had three.

Oh, I completely agree.  Starting against Michigan State that season was kind of tough on the team, I think.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on January 06, 2012, 09:35:47 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
QuoteEdit: Well, that doesn't sound so good.  The October Fridays are 10/5, 12, 19, and 26.  CC could go to AF on a midweek, as well -- it's just across town.

Whatever the case, it is great to see a WCHA team coming into Lynah.

So which is it? Or, is it not sounding good, but seeing great?:-D

(http://deliriantistiromani.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Cornell Schedule 2012-2013
Post by: dpd on February 19, 2012, 10:44:28 AM
Does anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?
Title: Re: Cornell Schedule 2012-2013
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 19, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: dpdDoes anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?
::doh::Look at thread title.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on February 19, 2012, 12:05:56 PM
It seems like it's safe to assume that we'll be playing Michigan on November 24 (the Saturday after Thanksgiving) in MSG.
Title: Re: Cornell Schedule 2012-2013
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 19, 2012, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: dpdDoes anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?
::doh::Look at thread title.

Actually, that's my fault; dpd originally asked the question in another thread, and I moderated it into this thread and made it sticky.  Just trying to be helpful, not make anyone look bad. ::blush::
Title: Re: Cornell Schedule 2012-2013
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 19, 2012, 04:03:37 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: dpdDoes anyone know the tenative upcoming men's hockey schedule for next season?
::doh::Look at thread title.

Actually, that's my fault; dpd originally asked the question in another thread, and I moderated it into this thread and made it sticky.  Just trying to be helpful, not make anyone look bad. ::blush::
Well, that makes a lot more sense. Sorry dpd.::looking::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on February 19, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: jtn27It seems like it's safe to assume that we'll be playing Michigan on November 24 (the Saturday after Thanksgiving) in MSG.

That would be the date but I am still not believing it until a formal announcement is made. We've gotten our hopes up before and then...well, we played Colgate in Newark.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - Harvard hockey, Penn football 11/16-17
Post by: billhoward on February 20, 2012, 02:47:08 PM
Nov 16-18 would be a good back-to-Ithaca weekend: Harvard Friday and Dartmouth Saturday in hockey, plus football playing Penn Saturday midday, maybe not for the Ivy title but likely for the end to what could be the best Cornell football season in years and years. If only there was wrestling and basketball at home that weekend, too?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - Harvard hockey, Penn football 11/16-17
Post by: Chris '03 on February 20, 2012, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: billhowardNov 16-18 would be a good back-to-Ithaca weekend: Harvard Friday and Dartmouth Saturday in hockey, plus football playing Penn Saturday midday, maybe not for the Ivy title but likely for the end to what could be the best Cornell football season in years and years. If only there was wrestling and basketball at home that weekend, too?

Weekend of Hate.

It's lined up that way a few times, including the last time Cornell was in contention for an Ivy football title in 2000.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Roy 82 on February 21, 2012, 08:58:31 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on February 22, 2012, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

(http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2398447e5e24192a631905964323e788)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rosey on February 22, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

(http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2398447e5e24192a631905964323e788)
We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on February 22, 2012, 11:10:51 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

(http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2398447e5e24192a631905964323e788)
We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.

Related issues like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox) always make me feel like the only actually smart person I've ever met is Whelan.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: RichH on February 22, 2012, 11:17:41 AM
Mispost. Blerg.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on February 22, 2012, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: css228I'd love to see more visitors of this quality in Lynah. Hopefully we could convince Penn State to start something with us for the long run in addition to having this great series.

Penn State the Home Conference Wreckers? ::pissed::
What's done is done, They're likely at least to be decent going forward, we might as well get in on their scheduling going forward.
I agree that it is better than their reverse scheduling which causes all sorts of problems regarding non-existence and causality.

Meh.

(http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2398447e5e24192a631905964323e788)
We've needed a good philosophical discussion for a while.

Logic suggests that time must flow in the direction of increasing entropy because the most probable outcome of stochastic events leads to an decrease in order. (E.g., think about a theoretically possible but ridiculously improbable event in which a block of wood cools off and starts moving in one direction.) The probablility of order increasing as a result of random particle interactions decreases exponentially with the number of particles involved.

How does this relate to the equivalence between matter moving backward in time and anti-matter moving forward in time? There must be a connection between physical reality and information theory. It's a puzzle I've been pondering for years.

(http://www.phoebenorth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/professor-river-song.preview.jpg)

Ah, ah, ah!  Spoilers!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on February 24, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
The Florida tournament will be Fri. and Sat., Dec 28 and 29 (source: email response from Craig Brush to my inquiry as to whether the dates were set).
As announced in Estero in December, Ferris St. and UMD will be there.  Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 24, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: jkahnThe Florida tournament will be Fri. and Sat., Dec 28 and 29 (source: email response from Craig Brush to my inquiry as to whether the dates were set).
As announced in Estero in December, Ferris St. and UMD will be there.  Also announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.
So I added that and Mich as tentatives.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on February 27, 2012, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: jkahnAlso announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.
Love that field.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on February 27, 2012, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: jkahnAlso announced in December were the Dec. 2013 teams, New Hampshire and North Dakota.
Love that field.
Maybe No Dak can pick up some tips from the Florida State Seminoles while they're down there.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on February 28, 2012, 12:36:24 PM
Joe Battista, Associate Athletic Director for Ice Arena & Hockey Operations at Penn State, made comments during Penn State's last home game as a club team that prompted many in the Penn State hockey blogosphere to speculate that Cornell and Penn State will play each other in the near future (most plans involve Cornell playing Penn State in Lynah next season so that Penn State can play in a historic venue in exchange for Cornell playing at the new Pegula Ice Arena in 2013-14). Battista stated soon after the Pegula gift was announced that he wanted Penn State to play Cornell. Also, Battista is a fan of Notre Dame hockey, a program that he does not mention when discussing fans to whose heckling Penn State will be exposed in what he implied to be the near future, so commentators have read into that. If I had to make a guess of when the game would occur if it does, it would be Friday, October 19.

Joe Battista discussing college hockey fans and future of PSU hockey during Kent State game (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/20672060/highlight/245270)
Title: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Chris '03 on February 29, 2012, 07:26:01 PM
For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

http://nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com/2012/02/looking-ahead.html

QuoteOct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on February 29, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Quote from: Chris '03For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

http://nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com/2012/02/looking-ahead.html

QuoteOct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.
Thats a better NC schedule than I would have expected them to get.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on March 01, 2012, 05:30:03 AM
In case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced http://www.withoutapeer.com/2012/02/tentative-mens-2012-13-schedule.html.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 01, 2012, 07:44:25 AM
Quote from: Chris '03For whatever it's worth, a preliminary Yale NC schedule has popped up today:

http://nhrcollegehockey.blogspot.com/2012/02/looking-ahead.html

QuoteOct. 26-27: Ivy Shootout at Brown (with Dartmouth and Princeton).
Note: The format has been under discussion, and could be changed. But as of now, the plan is to play everything at Brown.
Nov. 23-24: at Denver; at Colorado College
Note: Yale was originally part of the field of the Denver Cup. The tournament is apparently in flux, but the Bulldogs kept the date with Denver and secured a game with CC to make a weekend of it.
Dec. 12: vs. Massachusetts
Dec. 28: vs. Russian Red Stars (exhibition)
Dec. 30: at Holy Cross
Jan. 5: at Boston College

Ivy Shootout. Yuck.

Scared me a second.  I thought you were saying WE were in the Ivy Shootout.

Yale can have it.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: KenP on March 01, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
Quote from: ursusminorIn case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced http://www.withoutapeer.com/2012/02/tentative-mens-2012-13-schedule.html.
Interesting that they have their home-and-home series with Union as the kickoff to their ECAC schedule.  Does that happen every year, or is this new?

If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2012, 08:12:23 AM
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on March 01, 2012, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: KenP
Quote from: ursusminorIn case anyone cares, a prelimnary RPI schedule has surfaced http://www.withoutapeer.com/2012/02/tentative-mens-2012-13-schedule.html.
Interesting that they have their home-and-home series with Union as the kickoff to their ECAC schedule.  Does that happen every year, or is this new?

If it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
I think that it has happened before, but it certainly doesn't always happen. There is a third game (NC) against Union. I agree with you about a symmetric schedule making more sense.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on March 01, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.

Also you have to make sure the pizza places in Hamilton are fully staffed that weekend so they can crank out the pizzas the administration needs to entice their students to come to Starr.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on March 01, 2012, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on March 01, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Beeeej on March 01, 2012, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Robb on March 01, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rita on March 01, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

Kind of like why we have the Yale-Brown and Princetion-Quinnipaic pairings rather than Yale-Q and Brown Princeton.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Beeeej on March 01, 2012, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 01, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep.  In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships.  Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2012, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: BeeeejI believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

See 85-91 chart (http://www.tbrw.info/weekly_Updates/cornell_4pt_Weekends.html).
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Chris 02 on March 02, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep.  In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships.  Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 02, 2012, 12:29:44 PM
Quote from: Chris 02
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep.  In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships.  Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

It opened in '93.  But even then, you could take the Parkway to the Turnpike.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on March 02, 2012, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: Chris 02Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?
Wikipedia knows all (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_287)
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 02, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Chris 02Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?
Wikipedia knows all (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_287)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBDn5PiL00
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 04, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Chris 02
Quote from: jtwcornell91Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...

Did I-287 even exist back in the early 90s for that trip?

It opened in '93.  But even then, you could take the Parkway to the Turnpike.

Ah, I remember taking it to Kingston from football games at Penn around Thanksgiving, but come to think of it the first time I did that (without going somewhere else) was in '95.
Title: Re: Yale in 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on March 05, 2012, 04:06:53 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KenPIf it were up to me I'd like each team to see each other once in the Fall semester and once in the Spring.  Home-and-homes would be right smack in the middle.
Damn straight. aBcDeXAbCdE.

But we have to make sure our home and home against Colgate is the absolute worst weather weekend of the year.  It's not the same otherwise.
Things have changed.  The absolute worst weather weekend used to be the RPI-UVM trip.  Yeah, yeah, I know... a lot of things have changed.  But looking up through a blinding snowstorm at the bank weather display in downtown Burlington and seeing "-18" (I assume C, but hey, maybe F) is among the memorable experiences of life.

I'm assuming that was when Army was in the ECAC?  Why not have Army and RPI be travel partners?  I realize this all ended 15+ years ago but a Hudson pairing makes more sense than involving Vermont.

Because that would leave Vermont and Princeton as the remaining two without partners, and that didn't make any sense at all.

Wasn't it RPI-Army, Vermont-Dartmouth, Yale-Princeton, Harvard-Brown, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU?

That's how I would have done it.

I believe at the time, it was RPI-Vermont, Princeton-Army, Harvard-Dartmouth, Cornell-Colgate, Clarkson-SLU, Yale-Brown.

Yep.  In the absence of Penn (or Columbia) hockey, what to do with Princeton sort of drives the travel partnerships.  Princeton to West Point is a fairly reasonable drive, since you can take 287 and avoid NYC altogether.

Anything's got to be better than the Cornell-Columbia Ivy basketball travel partnership...
Since I was curious:

Troy - West Point: 109 mi.
Burlington - Hanover: 96 mi.
New Haven - Princeton: 129 mi. (via the GWB, or 148 mi. via the Tappan Zee)
Cambridge - Providence: 55 mi.
Total: 389 mi. (or 408 mi.)

Troy - Burlington: 146 mi.
Princeton - West Point: 98 mi.
Cambridge - Hanover: 126 mi.
New Haven - Providence: 103 mi.
Total: 473 mi.

The way Robb suggested seemed more intuitive to me as well, and the distances would seem to bear that out, even if you detour completely around NYC on the Princeton-Yale trip.  (And even though West Point is further south than I realized.)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: RatushnyFan on March 08, 2012, 08:58:38 AM
I never realized that thinking about historical travel pairings could be so much fun!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 15, 2012, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals
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A friend just pointed out to me that Spring break next year is Saturday March 16 through Sunday March 24. That means that the ECAC quarterfinals will be during break. If we host the quarterfinals, the student section could be only partially filled. That's not good. It would however mean that there is an increased likelihood of students traveling to the semifinals and finals because they won't have class the day of the semis.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: snert1288 on March 15, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
In 2009 I remember our series against RPI was the first weekend of break and alot of people stuck around.  Though it would certainly be fewer students, I don't think it would look empty at all.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 15, 2012, 04:49:03 PM
Quote from: jtn27Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 15, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy
Quote from: jtn27Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.

It was full this year.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 19, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: CowbellGuy
Quote from: jtn27Whenever we host the quarterfinals, the student section is only partially filled.

FYP.

It was full this year.

Attendance for Friday's game was 3869.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on March 24, 2012, 01:18:42 AM
Next year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Robb on March 24, 2012, 01:38:47 AM
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Meh.  First round losers.  Who are they?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on March 24, 2012, 02:15:47 PM
Quote from: Robb
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Meh.  First round losers.  Who are they?
So's Michigan.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on March 27, 2012, 04:44:59 PM
So basically we're likely to play the entire 2012 Midwest Regional next season?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: cbuckser on March 27, 2012, 05:27:55 PM
Quote from: css228So basically we're likely to play the entire 2012 Midwest Regional next season?

That's exactly what I was thinking when the NCAA Tournament field was announced.

I hope Cornell and Ferris State play each other in the first round of the Florida College Classic. That would set up an NCAA Tournament rematch for Maine and Minnesota-Duluth, too.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: nyc94 on March 28, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
In future opponent news, sophomores Jaden Schwartz (http://www.uscho.com/2012/03/12/report-schwartz-leaving-colorado-college-for-nhl-deal-with-st-louis/) of Colorado College and now Jason Zucker (http://www.uscho.com/2012/03/27/denver-loses-another-as-zucker-signs-with-wild/) of Denver have signed pro contracts.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: marty on March 28, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Quote from: nyc94In future opponent news, sophomores Jaden Schwartz (http://www.uscho.com/2012/03/12/report-schwartz-leaving-colorado-college-for-nhl-deal-with-st-louis/) of Colorado College and now Jason Zucker (http://www.uscho.com/2012/03/27/denver-loses-another-as-zucker-signs-with-wild/) of Denver have signed pro contracts.

Blues and the Wild don't seem to be on the schedule?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 30, 2012, 08:46:04 AM
A reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.

Berenson's answer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFL7LVWsrPY&list=UU-je1DMrkGkWSw_ewnt0rkA&feature=player_detailpage#t=220s) avoids stating definitively if the game will occur, but seems to imply that it will or at the very least that he wants it to occur.

Quote from: Red BerensonYeah, I hope that it becomes more than a rumor. Nothing has been finalized or announced, but you are on to something. I am not sure what it is or what it will be with the dates they're talking about.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 30, 2012, 09:15:11 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinA reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.

Wow, that's some chair!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 30, 2012, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinA reporter asks Red Berenson about the prospects of Michigan playing Cornell at The Garden in one of Michigan's many post-season wrap-ups. The comment occurs around the 3:42 mark.

Wow, that's some chair!

Or Red is much smaller than I first thought.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on March 30, 2012, 11:41:39 AM
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on March 30, 2012, 12:22:53 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 30, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.

When would the CC or Denver games fall in that arrangement? I have an estimated schedule of what next season would look like. The only openings are early October and then 1/4 and 1/5 for two-game series. I know that the CC games were rumored to be very early (likely in October), but is it wise to jump in against a team with a few week's experience that early in the season?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on March 30, 2012, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 30, 2012, 01:37:23 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I'm hoping that Atlantic Hockey slot goes to playing Penn State during its first year at the NCAA Division I level.

Also, I thought the adjective forms were Schaferian and unSchaferian.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on March 30, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver.  Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January.  Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games.  That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rita on March 30, 2012, 02:13:46 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver.  Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January.  Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games.  That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).

Actually, I think the Ivies late start date for official team practices (October 15th correct?) is just as bad as the 29 game limit.

Assuming Michigan over Thanksgiving weekend and Denver right after the Estero games, let's hope CC's visit is November 2/3 so we can have at least 2 solid weeks of practice (and an exhibition game) before that.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on March 30, 2012, 06:55:54 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 30, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 30, 2012, 08:59:11 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 30, 2012, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

I prefer to write it as THE Ohio State University but quotes works well too.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Chris '03 on March 30, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 30, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.

You are correct about Lenny, but I had to go to Cleveland first.::drive::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 31, 2012, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

Ah I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I find it interesting that no one on here as noted the effect that losing Casey Jones might have on Cornell recruiting. Who has replaced him in his role as the primary recruiter at Cornell?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: cbuckser on March 31, 2012, 03:06:30 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI find it interesting that no one on here as noted the effect that losing Casey Jones might have on Cornell recruiting. Who has replaced him in his role as the primary recruiter at Cornell?

Ben Syer is the primary recruiter, and he has done well so far. He was a highly regarded recruiter at Quinnipiac before Mike Schafer hired him.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Beeeej on March 31, 2012, 09:50:37 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAh I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 31, 2012, 12:11:07 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAh I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling (http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-coach-brady-hoke-says-ohio-not-disrespectful-to-bobcats-wont-stop-using-it/). I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University." (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Cornell_Senate_Bill.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 31, 2012, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinAh I knew that Ohio had a brief period during which it was not the joke of the CCHA. I didn't check the dates. I still contend that there is a difference in the aura surrounding a game between games against historic programs, like Denver, and those against programs that have no such history, like Ohio. The 2002-03 season was when Ohio still had Ryan Kesler (for some reason when I made my comment I thought he graduated earlier than 2002-03) on its roster and a certain Cornellian assistant coach who recruited Kesler.

I appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling (http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-coach-brady-hoke-says-ohio-not-disrespectful-to-bobcats-wont-stop-using-it/). I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University."

No those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 31, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaNo those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

QuoteTo establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

Quote...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 31, 2012, 12:44:37 PM
You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvC28lctvn0&feature=related
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 31, 2012, 01:02:36 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim HylaNo those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

QuoteTo establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

Quote...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.::wtf::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on March 31, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).

I did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Scersk '97 on March 31, 2012, 02:09:02 PM
Quote from: ursusminorI did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.

I've never understood RPI's (administration's) nominal angst.  There's another "technological university" a bit further to the east that's just a "'Tute" (even of "Tech" ), and they seem to do just fine without all the handwringing.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Ben on March 31, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim HylaNo those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

QuoteTo establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

Quote...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.::wtf::

The point (I think) Aaron is making is that we could choose to refer to Cornell as 'The Cornell University' -- but we don't. Students/fans/alumni of An Ohio State University insist on emphasizing the definite article, which makes it fair game for jokes.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on March 31, 2012, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: BenAn Ohio State University

"An Ohio State University"?! "An"?!!? "AN"?!?! Need I direct you to the video I posted earlier? You should pay attention to Santonio Holmes. He's a very wise individual and has certainly done nothing to give you reason to doubt his judgment (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3867829).
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 31, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: ursusminorI did try tRPI for a while but got bored with it. For a while the school admins themselves wrote "Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a Technological University." I think the reason for that was to indicate that RPI is a university even though the name doesn't contain the word.

I've never understood RPI's (administration's) nominal angst.  There's another "technological university" a bit further to the east that's just a "'Tute" (even of "Tech" ), and they seem to do just fine without all the handwringing.

And another Institute of Technology off to the West which happily refers to itself internally as "The University" despite not having the word "University" in its name.  (E.g., the PR department is called University News.)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on March 31, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I think in '02-03 we immediately went out to OSU to kick things off.  It's not the easiest way to start, but great teams like that one still get it done, so it would say something about next year's team if they do the same.

I don't put Ohio and Denver in the same class of programs.

I went to that game. At that time "the" OSU had a nationally ranked program. They ended up the season with an NCAA bid, and it was one tough game. Now they aren't much, but then it indeed was a challenge.

At the time OSU was good at making the tournament and not scoring. I recall driving out to Ohio and passing Jim on the road somewhere in PA. That year OSU was in the east regional with CU. Their band had their mouthpieces confiscated by TSA at the airport.

It was a very tough game too, among the closest of the season. IIRC, Lenny stood on his head.

That game (along with one of the WMU games) illustrated how good the 2002-2003 squad was, in that even on an off night they managed to pull out a win.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 31, 2012, 05:42:13 PM
Quote from: Ben
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim HylaNo those jokes wouldn't work, as we don't refer to ourselves as the Cornell university, and even in the charter "the" was not capitalized. To my mind that means it is not part of our name.

I know that Ohio (State) has the penchants for capitalizing the article in its name which is laughable, but Cornell's charter does state:

QuoteTo establish the Cornell University...

Perhaps more persuasively,

Quote...are hereby created a body politic and corporate, to be known as the Cornell University, which university shall be located in the town of Ithaca.

I do find their insistence on capitalizing "the" comical, but technically most universities were chartered with "the" in their names as product of the eras in which they were chartered: "the Johns Hopkins University," "the Pennsylvania State University," "the Cornell University," "the Leland Stanford Junior University," etc. That's why I tend toward the use of "Ohio" for Ohio State. It annoys the Buckeye fans and it cannot be turned around against Cornell.

As I said, it wouldn't work against us. Try calling your university Cornell, not the Cornell, and see if anyone complains. Do the reverse, with emphasis on The Cornell, and see how many people think you're weird.::wtf::

The point (I think) Aaron is making is that we could choose to refer to Cornell as 'The Cornell University' -- but we don't. Students/fans/alumni of An Ohio State University insist on emphasizing the definite article, which makes it fair game for jokes.

I totally agree. Reread my posts. I understand that it works against OSU. My point to Aaron was against his sentence: 'Why the emphasis upon the article of "the" in the name of Ohio State? The same jokes could be leveled at Cornell as Cornell was chartered as "the Cornell University." '

I was disagreeing that they could be used against us. No, they couldn't be used against us because we don't say that.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 01, 2012, 10:17:19 AM
Quote from: Jim HylaI was disagreeing that they could be used against us. No, they couldn't be used against us because we don't say that.

Objectively, we both have points. As I've said, I think the Santonio-Holmesian emphasis on "the" in "the Ohio State University" is comical and deserving of mocking. However, I don't think it's a good idea to mock a school, that is mocked among Big Ten institutions for being sub-par academically ("vocational" is the most tame insult I've heard in this realm), with the "haha you guys are foolish because you oddly emphasize 'the' in your institution's name while we've chosen to forget what our formal, chartered name is." Which is the greater virtue? To overemphasize the article in your institution's formal name? Or, to abandon use of the name with which your institution has been chartered?

I find it funny that we've taken such entrenched positions and caused the drift of the 2012-13 schedule thread. I'm honestly not that invested either way and my first post was just to defend my use of "Ohio" to refer to "the Ohio State University." I think that I've done that. This is among the first signs that it is the off-season. ;-)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 01, 2012, 11:20:06 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim HylaI was disagreeing that they could be used against us. No, they couldn't be used against us because we don't say that.

Objectively, we both have points. As I've said, I think the Santonio-Holmesian emphasis on "the" in "the Ohio State University" is comical and deserving of mocking. However, I don't think it's a good idea to mock a school, that is mocked among Big Ten institutions for being sub-par academically ("vocational" is the most tame insult I've heard in this realm), with the "haha you guys are foolish because you oddly emphasize 'the' in your institution's name while we've chosen to forget what our formal, chartered name is." Which is the greater virtue? To overemphasize the article in your institution's formal name? Or, to abandon use of the name with which your institution has been chartered?

I find it funny that we've taken such entrenched positions and caused the drift of the 2012-13 schedule thread. I'm honestly not that invested either way and my first post was just to defend my use of "Ohio" to refer to "the Ohio State University." I think that I've done that. This is among the first signs that it is the off-season. ;-)

How did we get to virtue? All I said was that they couldn't use that comment against us, as we don't use the phrase "the Cornell U". That's my whole point, it wouldn't work. It means nothing to that point whether we were chartered as "the" or not. I'm referring to common usage. After all, most sports fans are not going to go look up the charter to see how to say Cornell.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on April 01, 2012, 11:46:05 AM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver.  Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January.  Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games.  That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).
I found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Beeeej on April 01, 2012, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: BeeeejI appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling (http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-coach-brady-hoke-says-ohio-not-disrespectful-to-bobcats-wont-stop-using-it/). I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

You mean besides 1) Ohio State fans never visit eLF, so it's completely pointless, and 2) it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about until you explain it in detail?  You're right.  Can't imagine why you'd abandon it.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on April 01, 2012, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Jim HylaI was disagreeing that they could be used against us. No, they couldn't be used against us because we don't say that.

Objectively, we both have points. As I've said, I think the Santonio-Holmesian emphasis on "the" in "the Ohio State University" is comical and deserving of mocking. However, I don't think it's a good idea to mock a school, that is mocked among Big Ten institutions for being sub-par academically ("vocational" is the most tame insult I've heard in this realm), with the "haha you guys are foolish because you oddly emphasize 'the' in your institution's name while we've chosen to forget what our formal, chartered name is." Which is the greater virtue? To overemphasize the article in your institution's formal name? Or, to abandon use of the name with which your institution has been chartered?

I find it funny that we've taken such entrenched positions and caused the drift of the 2012-13 schedule thread. I'm honestly not that invested either way and my first post was just to defend my use of "Ohio" to refer to "the Ohio State University." I think that I've done that. This is among the first signs that it is the off-season. ;-)

I like the way you turned Santonio Holmes' name into an adjective.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on April 01, 2012, 01:09:59 PM
I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on April 01, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on April 01, 2012, 01:49:08 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.
We also play Brown.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jordan 04 on April 01, 2012, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: css228I just want to say our OOC schedule looks ridiculous. If it werent for ECAC competition, we'd probably have a top 5 SOS.
Well, we do play Union.
We also play Brown.

And Darmouth.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 01, 2012, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: BeeeejI appreciate the effort to leave the definite article out of Ohio State's name, but there's also an Ohio University - they don't play hockey, but it's probably worth throwing the "State" in there just to be clear.

I am aware. Ohio University does play hockey at the ACHA Division I level. It is one of the two most successful programs in the ACHA. Penn State is the other. I have developed the tendency to refer to Ohio State as simply "Ohio" because Ohio State loathes being referred to as anything that confuses it with Ohio University. Ohio State views Ohio University as inferior. Most of Ohio State's rivals in the Big Ten have taken to referring to it as "Ohio" in passing as a subtle form of needling (http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/michigan-football-coach-brady-hoke-says-ohio-not-disrespectful-to-bobcats-wont-stop-using-it/). I can abandon this practice on non-Big Ten fora, but why abandon a practice that annoys clearly the Buckeyes?

You mean besides 1) Ohio State fans never visit eLF, so it's completely pointless, and 2) it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about until you explain it in detail?  You're right.  Can't imagine why you'd abandon it.

Ohio State would understand the insult. You can assume the contrary if you wish. Michigan has taken to using it commonly. If you read the article, it mentions how Michigan now replaces Ohio State's name on its scoreboards with "Ohio" as an insult.

A large reason why Ohio State emphasizes the "the" in its name so much is because it is an assertion of its identity as the sole land-grant institution of Ohio. The designation states that it is THE primary state university of Ohio. This distinguishes it from both Ohio University and Miami University. Both institutions fought the founding of Ohio State as the land-grant institution of Ohio (much like how the institutions that grew into the University of Rochester and Colgate University opposed the creation of Cornell). Referring to Ohio State as Ohio as an insult has this historical dimension to it as well as the current insult that it confronts regularly from Big-Ten rivals.

If we're worried about our opponents assuming our ignorance, then why bother mock them with incorrect names or serenade them with the wrong fight songs? The mistaken association of "The Victors" with Michigan State is far more common and far easier thought a genuine mistake than confusing Ohio State with Ohio University. Perhaps we should stop calling Dartmouth "UNH rejects," Dartmouth fans and players might think us that ignorant to believe that UNH is actually a more respectable academic institution.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 01, 2012, 03:08:50 PM
I quit. I think I do.:-}
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 01, 2012, 03:10:24 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaHow did we get to virtue? All I said was that they couldn't use that comment against us, as we don't use the phrase "the Cornell U". That's my whole point, it wouldn't work. It means nothing to that point whether we were chartered as "the" or not. I'm referring to common usage. After all, most sports fans are not going to go look up the charter to see how to say Cornell.

We agree on almost everything on here. I just wanted to point out that Cornell, like Ohio State, was founded with a definite article in its charter (one post, not yours, implied that it was a foolish way to name a university in the first place. I just wanted to add the perspective that Cornell is similarly chartered). I'm fine with mocking Ohio State for its fans's, alumni's, and players's odd, spoken emphasis on the "the" in particular.  We agree also that Ohio State fans would never take the time to look at the charter of a university for fodder for jeering.

I wanted to imply that we can come up with better ammunition to antagonize Ohio State than its weird fetish with "the."
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 01, 2012, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaI quit. I think I do.:-}

Like I said in my last post. My original point (poorly made, might I add) is one about the history surrounding Cornell and not an argument against others or your mocking of Ohio State's THE.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: marty on April 01, 2012, 03:19:16 PM
THE
Quote from: Jim HylaI quit. I think I do.:-}
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 01, 2012, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.
I trust my source - I'll bet you a beer it's Denver.  Probably more likely we'd have CC at Lynah early and be at Denver in January.  Either way, we'd open vs. someone with several games under their belt - that's the Ivy/ECAC disadvantage that's hard to overcome unless the Ivy's increase from 29 games.  That late start, with OOC games coming early, works against our whole league when it comes to PWR (or even KRACH).
I found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html

If you read the fan comments, they don't seem to be nearly as optimistic as many on here about Denver's chances next season especially against such a tough schedule.

QuoteThis schedule is going to be absolutely brutal for a young and rebuilding Pioneer Squad.

Our OOC will tough. What is there one more date left open?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on April 01, 2012, 03:40:04 PM
I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: nyc94 on April 01, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinOur OOC will tough. What is there one more date left open?

If all of these games do indeed make the schedule then are no more open dates: 2 vs. Colorado College, 2 at Denver, 2 in Florida, 1 vs. Michigan = 7 games.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Beeeej on April 01, 2012, 05:40:09 PM
Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.

THE Indiana University-THE Purdue University THE Indianapolis.

THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rita on April 01, 2012, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.

THE Indiana University-THE Purdue University THE Indianapolis.

THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.

All of those are better than "THE U". ::yark::
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: marty on April 01, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.



THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.

Ooh La La!

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Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on April 01, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
Quote from: Rita
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: jtn27I think every school should follow THE Ohio State University's lead. THE Cornell University. THE University of Texas. THE University of California, San Diego. THE Tompkins-Cortland Community College.

THE Indiana University-THE Purdue University THE Indianapolis.

THE The Citadel.

LA La Sorbonne.

All of those are better than "THE U". ::yark::

Screw the Y! :-}
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on April 02, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).
I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2002/11/1/110102aaa_5857.aspx?path=mhockey) seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 02, 2012, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).
I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2002/11/1/110102aaa_5857.aspx?path=mhockey) seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.
Agree, that's what happened.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on April 02, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Josh '99I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.
Correct.  For that matter, references to tOSU on USCHO are made specifically to mock Ohio State, which only has about three fans on the board.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtwcornell91 on April 02, 2012, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).
I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2002/11/1/110102aaa_5857.aspx?path=mhockey) seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.

Yeah, but what do you know about the 2002-3 season?  It's not like you went to every game or something. :-}
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Tom Lento on April 02, 2012, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jkahnNext year's OOC schedule gets even better according to a player's family  - we're playing at Denver in the '12-'13 season.
Hopefully this means they come to Lynah the next year.

Would we go all the way out there for 1?  Because if not, then the NC schedule would be:

Michigan
Colorado College x 2
Denver x 2
Estero (Ferris, Maine, Minn-Duluth)

which sounds... implausible.
Not implausible, just more exciting than we're used to.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea.  We've just never had a schedule even remotely that challenging.

I would think it's a lot more likely that Denver is a rumor and those last two slots will be our usual Niagara / RIT / Mercyhurst games.  Going out west first thing to play a team with a half dozen game under its belt is  un-Schafery.

I'm not so sure this is all that big a departure for Schafer. The NC schedule from 2002-03, when Cornell was expected to be at its peak:

@OSU
@WMU (2x)
BU (2x)
Estero (Maine/OSU)

Western Michigan was the weakest team in that schedule, and in the 2 years prior they were well over .500 so it wasn't obvious that they'd be a lower tier CCHA team at the time the schedule was made. That NC schedule was brutal by the standards of previous years.

The more recent talent peak for Cornell was probably the 2009-10 season, and the NC slate that year included BU, UNH, and 2x vs NoDak, plus CC in Florida.
2006-07 (RMU, RIT, Wayne State, Sacred Heart) and 2007-08 (RIT, BU, UMass, Niagara) were far weaker schedules set up for far weaker Cornell teams, and 2008-09 was somewhere in the middle for a team that was really 1 year away from its best shot on the national stage.

It might be that top teams are more willing to play Cornell if they expect the team to be good, but it does seem like Schafer loads up the NC slate in seasons where expectations are higher for Cornell. I can't imagine that's easy to do, so if this is by design good for him.

Edit to add - this doesn't mean that he'll necessarily relish going out west first thing in any season, but I think if it's the difference between a top tier opponent and some schlub team he'll go for the former in the years where the added experience is likely to matter more than an early NC win.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on April 02, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Tom LentoIt might be that top teams are more willing to play Cornell if they expect the team to be good, but it does seem like Schafer loads up the NC slate in seasons where expectations are higher for Cornell. I can't imagine that's easy to do, so if this is by design good for him.

Yeah that's what I want to know, is it just good coincidence or is it planned that the our most promising teams seem to have tougher OOC schedules?  In the 02-03 case, it definitely helped thm make a statement and also helped with the top PWR ranking.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Chris '03 on April 02, 2012, 04:52:07 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).
I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2002/11/1/110102aaa_5857.aspx?path=mhockey) seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.

You left out the part about the hot tub suite.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 02, 2012, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Tom LentoIt might be that top teams are more willing to play Cornell if they expect the team to be good, but it does seem like Schafer loads up the NC slate in seasons where expectations are higher for Cornell. I can't imagine that's easy to do, so if this is by design good for him.

Yeah that's what I want to know, is it just good coincidence or is it planned that the our most promising teams seem to have tougher OOC schedules?  In the 02-03 case, it definitely helped thm make a statement and also helped with the top PWR ranking.

If I had to say, it would be that nothing happens by coincidence when you're talking about Coach Schafer.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 02, 2012, 10:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tom LentoThe more recent talent peak for Cornell was probably the 2009-10 season, and the NC slate that year included BU, UNH, and 2x vs NoDak, plus CC in Florida.

It might be that top teams are more willing to play Cornell if they expect the team to be good, but it does seem like Schafer loads up the NC slate in seasons where expectations are higher for Cornell. I can't imagine that's easy to do, so if this is by design good for him.

Expectations were exceedingly high my senior year (notwithstanding the horrible Bemidji State loss in the 2009 NCAA Regional Final). The 2010 NCAA Regional Semifinal loss to UNH epitomizes falling short of expectations. So, it seems to follow the Schaferian trend to which Jim and you allude. Schafer must think that this team is capable of something special next season.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: cbuckser on April 03, 2012, 01:26:28 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Tom LentoIt might be that top teams are more willing to play Cornell if they expect the team to be good, but it does seem like Schafer loads up the NC slate in seasons where expectations are higher for Cornell. I can't imagine that's easy to do, so if this is by design good for him.

Yeah that's what I want to know, is it just good coincidence or is it planned that the our most promising teams seem to have tougher OOC schedules?  In the 02-03 case, it definitely helped them make a statement and also helped with the top PWR ranking.

If I had to say, it would be that nothing happens by coincidence when you're talking about Coach Schafer.

In addition to agreeing completely with Jim, I want to point out that there is another side to the equation.  A difficult nonconference schedule challenges a great team to play well.  And the team becomes better and more prepared to win games against excellent teams in the NCAA Tournament.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: cbuckser on April 03, 2012, 01:32:37 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinExpectations were exceedingly high my senior year (notwithstanding the horrible Bemidji State loss in the 2009 NCAA Regional Final). The 2010 NCAA Regional Semifinal loss to UNH epitomizes falling short of expectations. So, it seems to follow the Schaferian trend to which Jim and you allude. Schafer must think that this team is capable of something special next season.

And he's right.  The team next season should rank up there with the 2002-03 and 2009-10 teams.  The latter team, though it won the ECAC Championship, underachieved.  The former team did not.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on April 03, 2012, 09:58:31 AM
I think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 03, 2012, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuyI think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on April 03, 2012, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: CowbellGuyI think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?

I said "often," not always. Michigan at MSG is kind of a special-case scenario with 3 parties involved.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 03, 2012, 11:13:12 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: CowbellGuyI think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?

I said "often," not always. Michigan at MSG is kind of a special-case scenario with 3 parties involved.

Very true. I know that Estero is planned well in advance. It just seems odd that college hockey keeps its schedule unannounced until the previous season ends as a general rule.

Also, Schafer, knowing his personnel and their points of development could predict at what level a team should be when booking these schedules in advance. Yes, I know that he cannot account for early departures, but it may be at least partially by design.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on April 03, 2012, 12:15:22 PM
Well, some of those filler games tend to be booked late. Sacred Heart or Niagara on a Tuesday certainly aren't planned years in advance, so until the schedule's done, it can't really be announced. I still don't think how good the team is has any bearing on the quality of schedule. It doesn't matter how bad the team might be, if Schafer could schedule a home-and-home with a Denver or Michigan, I'm sure he would. How likely the other team is to accept could very well be impacted by the quality of Cornell's squad though.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on April 03, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27You're all saying it wrong. It's "THE Ohio State University" not "Ohio State," "Ohio," or even "the Ohio State University." Allow Santonio Holmes to teach you:
For reasons that I never tried to unravel, it is common on USCHO to refer to Minnesota-Duluth as the "THE University of Minnesota, Duluth" (tUMD).
I'm pretty sure they do that specifically to mock Ohio State.

Regarding that game at the start of 2002-03, my recollection also is that Cornell was badly outplayed (Ohio State had already played five games including a weekend trip to Alaska and outshot Cornell 29-13), and got bailed out by an awesome performance from LeNeveu.  The official Cornell Athletics recap (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2002/11/1/110102aaa_5857.aspx?path=mhockey) seems to corroborate my recollection that Lenny was the star.

You left out the part about the hot tub suite.
And not by accident, either.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Tom Lento on April 03, 2012, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuyWell, some of those filler games tend to be booked late. Sacred Heart or Niagara on a Tuesday certainly aren't planned years in advance, so until the schedule's done, it can't really be announced. I still don't think how good the team is has any bearing on the quality of schedule. It doesn't matter how bad the team might be, if Schafer could schedule a home-and-home with a Denver or Michigan, I'm sure he would. How likely the other team is to accept could very well be impacted by the quality of Cornell's squad though.

Yeah, that's why I can't imagine this is easy to do by design. A couple of years is just about the time frame where a coach could reasonably predict his team's chances at the national level, so it probably is still a factor, just less of a factor than things like raw availability. If Schafer could say "we're shaping up to be a top team in 2 seasons - how about it?" I'm sure that's a more compelling pitch to the top NC teams, but if they're already booked or unwilling to reciprocate on travel it won't matter.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on April 03, 2012, 01:58:03 PM
Quote from: jkahnI found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html
Magness Arena is pretty sweet (I love the huge banked stands behind the goals) and the games would be cool too; we haven't played Denver since the 1986 NCAA Tournament.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Rita on April 03, 2012, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: jkahnI found some corroborating evidence that we'll be at Denver this coming season:
http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2012/03/du-to-play-at-north-dakota-next-season.html
Magness Arena is pretty sweet (I love the huge banked stands behind the goals) and the games would be cool too; we haven't played Denver since the 1986 NCAA Tournament.

Magness Arena is very easy to get to from downtown Denver via the light rail system. I walked around the arena when I was in Denver for the FF in 2008 and went to see a lacrosse game live (my first, Denver v. Q). It seems like a very nice arena, though from games on TV, the lighting seems a bit dim.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on April 03, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: CowbellGuyI think you're all reading too much into it. He schedules the best teams he can get, but he's also pretty adamant about his reciprocation policy, so that's limiting. And these things are often scheduled a couple years ahead of time. It's just a coincidence.

Not to be contrary, but I know in the case of college football schedules are announced well in advance (seasons), why with college hockey do negotiations and arrangements continue, or seem to continue (per Berenson's comments), through the end of the season before when one would think, as you said, that they are in fact "scheduled a couple years ahead of time"?
Some football schedules are, some aren't.  The 2012 Syracuse schedule was just released (http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2012/03/syracuse_university_football_s_10.html) March 27.  That was a special case, too, because of their conference turmoil.

Remember how late the OOC Cornell-Colgate at Thanksgiving 2010 was announced?  Many people had already made other plans for the weekend.  

It could have been amended, but the 1954 Ivy Group agreement (http://www.archives.upenn.edu/histy/features/imagepenn/ivy1954.pdf) that Beeej pointed us to says that "football schedules shall not be made more than two years in advance of the current calendar year" and "Schedules in all other sports shall not be made prior to December of the college year preceding that in which the schedules will be played."  If "made" means a commitment, then that is pretty constraining.  It surely takes time to shake things out, even with today's electronic communication.  A Doodle poll just doesn't hack it.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 04, 2012, 05:30:42 PM
Speculation is over (http://www.cctigers.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=101). Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

Edit: Actually, four out of seven non-conference games are known now because it has been announced officially (as we know) that two others will be against two of the group of Minnesota-Duluth, Ferris State, and Maine in Estero, FL.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: CowbellGuy on April 04, 2012, 05:33:04 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinSpeculation is over (http://www.cctigers.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=101). Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

There may have been speculation about the date, but one need hardly speculate about Schafer's reciprocation policy.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 04, 2012, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinSpeculation is over (http://www.cctigers.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=101). Cornell hosts Colorado College at Lynah Rink on October 26 and October 27. Two of seven non-conference games confirmed officially.

There may have been speculation about the date, but one need hardly speculate about Schafer's reciprocation policy.

I meant about the date. I don't doubt Schafer's policy. I just don't count on anything, no matter how likely, occurring until it appears in some official form.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Ronald '09 on April 09, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Updates on Michigan Game:

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189434497190739969

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189438815897780224

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189432781787508736

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189434117799153664
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: marty on April 09, 2012, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: Ronald '09Updates on Michigan Game:

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189434497190739969

https://twitter.com/#!/chnews/status/189438815897780224

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189432781787508736

https://twitter.com/#!/MattSlovin/status/189434117799153664
How is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on April 09, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: marty on April 09, 2012, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
The piccolo section is bigger than Union"s band.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on April 09, 2012, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2012, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.

As I said in another post, football rules. Michigan, and The OSU for that matter, plan a lot around that football game. I'd not be surprised if the NYC UM alumni club didn't already have viewing plans for the football game. Competing with that could definately effect attendance. Now if they had an afternoon viewing in Manhatten, followed by dinner, and then hockey, it might work. Some would look at it as too long a day however, and might leave after the football.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: css228 on April 09, 2012, 05:29:01 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.

As I said in another post, football rules. Michigan, and The OSU for that matter, plan a lot around that football game. I'd not be surprised if the NYC UM alumni club didn't already have viewing plans for the football game. Competing with that could definately effect attendance. Now if they had an afternoon viewing in Manhatten, followed by dinner, and then hockey, it might work. Some would look at it as too long a day however, and might leave after the football.
Usually a game like that is a saturday afternoon game. I find it strange that that game is scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 09, 2012, 05:32:30 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.

As I said in another post, football rules. Michigan, and The OSU for that matter, plan a lot around that football game. I'd not be surprised if the NYC UM alumni club didn't already have viewing plans for the football game. Competing with that could definately effect attendance. Now if they had an afternoon viewing in Manhatten, followed by dinner, and then hockey, it might work. Some would look at it as too long a day however, and might leave after the football.
Usually a game like that is a saturday afternoon game. I find it strange that that game is scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend.

In the B1G, it not only usually is an afternoon game, but it has to be an afternoon game. B1G rules do not allow night games during the month of November.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2012, 05:33:41 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: martyHow is this a conflict? They each have their own band.
Isn't the Michigan Marching Band larger than the entire Union College student body?
Guess Michigan attendance could be less than spectacular.

As I said in another post, football rules. Michigan, and The OSU for that matter, plan a lot around that football game. I'd not be surprised if the NYC UM alumni club didn't already have viewing plans for the football game. Competing with that could definately effect attendance. Now if they had an afternoon viewing in Manhatten, followed by dinner, and then hockey, it might work. Some would look at it as too long a day however, and might leave after the football.
Usually a game like that is a saturday afternoon game. I find it strange that that game is scheduled for Thanksgiving weekend.

I found this on UM Almni site.

QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Thanksgiving is the earliest possible this year.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on April 09, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Note to self: avoid University of Michigan football game viewing parties.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 09, 2012, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: jtn27
QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Note to self: avoid University of Michigan football game viewing parties.

The best part of that (for me, anyways) is that they don't even call their own song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victors) by its formal name The Victors.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2012, 06:36:40 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Note to self: avoid University of Michigan football game viewing parties.

The best part of that (for me, anyways) is that they don't even call their own song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victors) by its formal name The Victors.

I'm not sure what you mean, but the song is "The Victors", the chorus is "Hail to the victors...". The posting with the capital V was in error.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 09, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
An article (https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/notebook-four-meetings-against-defending-national-runner-await-michigan-hockey) in The Michigan Daily about the Michigan-Cornell game at The Garden.

Quote from: Matt SlovinBIG RED REMATCH: Just over two weeks after Cornell knocked Michigan out of the NCAA Tournament, the Cornell athletic department is just a few formalities short of announcing another meeting.

Instead of a sparsely populated Resch Center in Green Bay, Wisc., where the Big Red ended the Wolverines' season in March, the game is slated to be played at New York City's Madison Square Garden.

Though Cornell has yet to sign a finalized agreement with the venue, sources tell the Daily that the game will likely be played on Nov. 24, the Saturday following Thanksgiving. The game will potentially conflict with the Michigan-Ohio State football game, scheduled for the same day in Columbus...[Bowling Green and Michigan] were originally slated to play a series on Thanksgiving weekend, but a change was needed to accommodate the Wolverines' date with Cornell at Madison Square Garden.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: billhoward on April 10, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
Quote from: jtn27
QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Note to self: avoid University of Michigan football game viewing parties.
If they lose to TOSU, we'll have not just drunks but mean drunks attending.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on April 11, 2012, 12:03:37 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: jtn27
QuoteThe U of M Club of NY hosts football watch parties every Saturday at sports bars throughout NYC with between 400-700 fans in attendance. Come join your fellow alumni in watching the games with full video and sound, enjoying the great deals on food and drink, winning Michigan memorabilia and paraphernalia during halftime raffles - and of course, participating in rousing chants of 'Hail to the Victors'!

Note to self: avoid University of Michigan football game viewing parties.
If they lose to TOSU, we'll have not just drunks but mean drunks attending.

And what about their fans?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on April 11, 2012, 01:46:28 PM
I know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on April 11, 2012, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.

I have no way of knowing one way or the other if this is true or not, but it seems unlikely to me that there would be two college hockey games the same weekend at MSG. That would likely mean that both the Rangers and Knicks would have be on the road that weekend. In 2011, the Rangers had an afternoon home game on Saturday and the Knicks were still locked out. Unless one college game is Friday and one Saturday, they wouldn't be able to have an afternoon Knicks or Rangers game.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on April 11, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.

I have no way of knowing one way or the other if this is true or not, but it seems unlikely to me that there would be two college hockey games the same weekend at MSG. That would likely mean that both the Rangers and Knicks would have be on the road that weekend. In 2011, the Rangers had an afternoon home game on Saturday and the Knicks were still locked out. Unless one college game is Friday and one Saturday, they wouldn't be able to have an afternoon Knicks or Rangers game.

The rumor is that both NCAA games would be on the same day.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jkahn on April 11, 2012, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.

I have no way of knowing one way or the other if this is true or not, but it seems unlikely to me that there would be two college hockey games the same weekend at MSG. That would likely mean that both the Rangers and Knicks would have be on the road that weekend. In 2011, the Rangers had an afternoon home game on Saturday and the Knicks were still locked out. Unless one college game is Friday and one Saturday, they wouldn't be able to have an afternoon Knicks or Rangers game.
It wouldn't be a big deal to have a Saturday where they both weren't home.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on April 11, 2012, 06:14:58 PM
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.
It sounds like the "rivalry renewal" day they had at Boston Garden in the early 90's with (going from memory here) BU, BC, Cornell and Vermont.  Maybe MSG thinks that RPI/Cornell fans and BU/BC fans will cross-pollinate.  If so, they are going to be very disappointed.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on April 11, 2012, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.
It sounds like the "rivalry renewal" day they had at Boston Garden in the early 90's with (going from memory here) BU, BC, Cornell and Vermont.  Maybe MSG thinks that RPI/Cornell fans and BU/BC fans will cross-pollinate.  If so, they are going to be very disappointed.
To me it sounds quite similar to the second day of the December 1969 ECAC Holiday Festival at MSG with BU subbing for SLU. That was the only time that RPI has been at MSG. A rather forgettable two days for me. :-(
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 11, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.

I have no way of knowing one way or the other if this is true or not, but it seems unlikely to me that there would be two college hockey games the same weekend at MSG. That would likely mean that both the Rangers and Knicks would have be on the road that weekend. In 2011, the Rangers had an afternoon home game on Saturday and the Knicks were still locked out. Unless one college game is Friday and one Saturday, they wouldn't be able to have an afternoon Knicks or Rangers game.

The rumor is that both NCAA games would be on the same day.

I assume two different games, two different tickets. It wouldn't make sense to have two games on one ticket since CU-BU does well enough by themselves. I can't imagine RP-BC drawing that well, unless RPI does very well next year. And I agree with Greg, not much cross-pollinating.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on April 12, 2012, 05:12:30 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: ursusminorI know that this thread is about the Cornell 12-13, not 13-14, schedule, but has anyone heard anything about the possibility of RPI playing BC in addition to Cornell playing BU at MSG over Thanksgiving in 2013? BC-RPI seems like a very odd combination to me. It was posted on the RPI thread on USCHO by an RPI fan who has a connection to BC.

I have no way of knowing one way or the other if this is true or not, but it seems unlikely to me that there would be two college hockey games the same weekend at MSG. That would likely mean that both the Rangers and Knicks would have be on the road that weekend. In 2011, the Rangers had an afternoon home game on Saturday and the Knicks were still locked out. Unless one college game is Friday and one Saturday, they wouldn't be able to have an afternoon Knicks or Rangers game.

The rumor is that both NCAA games would be on the same day.

I assume two different games, two different tickets. It wouldn't make sense to have two games on one ticket since CU-BU does well enough by themselves. I can't imagine RP-BC drawing that well, unless RPI does very well next year. And I agree with Greg, not much cross-pollinating.
Here is the link back to the BC forum http://bostoncollege.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1312&tid=172785951&mid=172785951&sid=1007&style=2.

I doubt that attendance by BC and RPI fans will be that linked to how well RPI does. The novelty should attract fans/alums from both schools in the NYC area. It would however help if the game wasn't a monumental blowout, as would probably have happened if RPI and BC played this season. My crystal ball says that RPI will be improved next season since the only area that we are losing anything of consequence is on the penalty kill. It's difficult to speculate on 2013-14 now. The message didn't consider the possibility of UConn joining the HEA leading to a 22-game HEA season.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: billhoward on April 12, 2012, 09:20:02 AM
A single-ticket doubleheader would certainly sell out. Cornell alumni who aren't rabid hockey fans may find yearly MSG hockey events too much to gear up for. Plus the even-number years have Cornell playing at Columbia in football just 2-3 weeks earlier and this has traditionally been Alumni House's big push for Cornell involvement in NYC (class receptions, tailgate such as it is at Columbia, game, Big Red Band march down Fifth Avenue). Recall how little effort went into promoting Cornell basketball's participation in the Madison Square Garden hoops tournament just a couple weeks after Red Hot Hockey Round II in 2009. Playing a doubleheader would probably eliminate the ability of the Knicks or Rangers to play a 1 pm game at the Garden, though.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on April 12, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
Quote from: billhowardA single-ticket doubleheader would certainly sell out.
I thought the CU-BU games sold out on their own?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Robb on April 12, 2012, 01:41:38 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: billhowardA single-ticket doubleheader would certainly sell out.
I thought the CU-BU games sold out on their own?
Yeah, but would it if it were a doubleheader at 2x (or even 1.6x) the price?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Scersk '97 on May 02, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
According to Denver, (http://www.denverpioneers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=90197&SPID=10862&DB_OEM_ID=18600&Q_SEASON=2012) we're there 01/04/2013 and 01/05/2013.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on May 02, 2012, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97According to Denver, (http://www.denverpioneers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=90197&SPID=10862&DB_OEM_ID=18600&Q_SEASON=2012) we're there 01/04/2013 and 01/05/2013.

So, one slot that we think is for the Michigan game at MSG is left formally.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: nyc94 on May 02, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97According to Denver, (http://www.denverpioneers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=90197&SPID=10862&DB_OEM_ID=18600&Q_SEASON=2012) we're there 01/04/2013 and 01/05/2013.

I vote that the team go directly from Florida to Denver to acclimate rather than spend the week at sea level again. :-)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on May 02, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: Scersk '97According to Denver, (http://www.denverpioneers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=90197&SPID=10862&DB_OEM_ID=18600&Q_SEASON=2012) we're there 01/04/2013 and 01/05/2013.

Thanks, I added it, tentative. So Colgate 11/1,2,3 or 1/10,11,12?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on May 02, 2012, 05:25:28 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Scersk '97According to Denver, (http://www.denverpioneers.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=90197&SPID=10862&DB_OEM_ID=18600&Q_SEASON=2012) we're there 01/04/2013 and 01/05/2013.

Thanks, I added it, tentative. So Colgate 11/1,2,3 or 1/10,11,12?

I just checked Colgate site (http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&schedule=197) and they list us as 11/2 @ Starr and 11/3 @ Lynah. They have UVM 1/12, so it seems secure.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: billhoward on May 02, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: jtn27 on May 02, 2012, 08:24:34 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
[/code]
The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?

My guess is that's just Wikipedia being Wikipedia.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on May 02, 2012, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaI just checked Colgate site (http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&schedule=197) and they list us as 11/2 @ Starr and 11/3 @ Lynah.
Wowie.  Can never recall us opening the conference slate with the 'Gate pair, ever.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Al DeFlorio on May 02, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
[/code]
The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Josh '99 on May 03, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7.
If I'm not mistaken, this is because the season officially starts on October 1st (for non-Ivy schools) and has a fixed length.  This past season, there were 28 weekends between the weekend of Saturday October 1st and the weekend of Saturday April 7th (i.e. the Frozen Four), inclusive.  This coming season, there will be 28 weekends between the weekend of Saturday October 6th (i.e. the first weekend after the start of the season on October 1st) and the weekend of Saturday, April 13th (i.e. the Frozen Four), inclusive.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on May 03, 2012, 01:24:11 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaI just checked Colgate site (http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&schedule=197) and they list us as 11/2 @ Starr and 11/3 @ Lynah.
Wowie.  Can never recall us opening the conference slate with the 'Gate pair, ever.

If you're driving to Hamilton on clear roads, are you really driving to Hamilton?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on May 04, 2012, 08:45:23 AM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaI just checked Colgate site (http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&schedule=197) and they list us as 11/2 @ Starr and 11/3 @ Lynah.
Wowie.  Can never recall us opening the conference slate with the 'Gate pair, ever.

If you're driving to Hamilton on clear roads, are you really driving to Hamilton?
The roads will still be blocked by hobos with Colgate degrees who couldn't get jobs.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Roy 82 on May 04, 2012, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on May 04, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaI just checked Colgate site (http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&schedule=197) and they list us as 11/2 @ Starr and 11/3 @ Lynah.
Wowie.  Can never recall us opening the conference slate with the 'Gate pair, ever.

If you're driving to Hamilton on clear roads, are you really driving to Hamilton?
The roads will still be blocked by hobos with Colgate degrees who couldn't get jobs.

Makes sense, if anyone would be lured to a hockey game solely because of free pizza it'd be hobos.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: marty on May 04, 2012, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

You assume that Tostitos won't buy into the Cribbage tournament?**]

More on topic, when did the hockey finals morph into "The Frozen Four"?  I'm sure they weren't called that back when Harkness brought the tournament to Troy.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on May 04, 2012, 08:52:51 PM
Quote from: martyMore on topic, when did the hockey finals morph into "The Frozen Four"?  I'm sure they weren't called that back when Harkness brought the tournament to Troy.

I wondered this too. The NCAA provides a historical timeline of the tournament (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.ncaa.org%2FDocs%2Fstats%2Ffrozen_4%2F2009%2Ff4trnhist.pdf&ei=tnikT8DAHqL16AHfteDEBA&usg=AFQjCNF1Mzjb-1ErnPdqEFAFImKbspgSAA). The timeline states:

Quote1999   The NCAA Division I hockey final round officially takes the name "Men's Frozen Four." Worcester's Centrum Centre hosts a regional record single-session crowd of 12,517.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: jtwcornell91 on May 05, 2012, 12:30:40 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: martyMore on topic, when did the hockey finals morph into "The Frozen Four"?  I'm sure they weren't called that back when Harkness brought the tournament to Troy.

I wondered this too. The NCAA provides a historical timeline of the tournament (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.ncaa.org%2FDocs%2Fstats%2Ffrozen_4%2F2009%2Ff4trnhist.pdf&ei=tnikT8DAHqL16AHfteDEBA&usg=AFQjCNF1Mzjb-1ErnPdqEFAFImKbspgSAA). The timeline states:

Quote1999   The NCAA Division I hockey final round officially takes the name "Men's Frozen Four." Worcester's Centrum Centre hosts a regional record single-session crowd of 12,517.

Note that the name was in use in HOCKEY-L circles for several years before that, but we generally preferred "Phinal Phour".
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: RichH on May 05, 2012, 02:18:12 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: martyMore on topic, when did the hockey finals morph into "The Frozen Four"?  I'm sure they weren't called that back when Harkness brought the tournament to Troy.

I wondered this too. The NCAA provides a historical timeline of the tournament (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffs.ncaa.org%2FDocs%2Fstats%2Ffrozen_4%2F2009%2Ff4trnhist.pdf&ei=tnikT8DAHqL16AHfteDEBA&usg=AFQjCNF1Mzjb-1ErnPdqEFAFImKbspgSAA). The timeline states:

Quote1999   The NCAA Division I hockey final round officially takes the name "Men's Frozen Four." Worcester's Centrum Centre hosts a regional record single-session crowd of 12,517.

Note that the name was in use in HOCKEY-L circles for several years before that, but we generally preferred "Phinal Phour".

And sometimes "Phrozen Phour."

The t-shirt I bought in Anaheim in 1999 is the only one I have that merely states "NCAA Hockey Championship," while there is a logo on my 2001 t-shirt from Albany that says "Frozen Four" in addition to the text that reads "Division I Championship." That was also the last year that was held in a non-NHL arena (excluding Ford Field).
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: jtn27 on May 05, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

This year Oregon beat Wisconsin in the 98th Rose Bowl Game Presented by Vizio. Vizio was founded in 2002.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on May 05, 2012, 11:33:19 AM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

This year Oregon beat Wisconsin in the 98th Rose Bowl Game Presented by Vizio. Vizio was founded in 2002.

I think there is a difference when the corporate brand is inherently part of the name as compared to when it is merely designated as the key sponsor in the name ( "presented by" ). So, the Rose Bowl does not prove the point necessarily. However, the "Allstate Sugar Bowl" was dubbed the 78th Sugar Bowl in 2012, and we all know that Allstate was not the key sponsor when it was established in 1935.

I feel the need to assert how much I hate such flagrant corporate sponsorship, especially in naming rights, of college venues and events.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: Jim Hyla on May 05, 2012, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

This year Oregon beat Wisconsin in the 98th Rose Bowl Game Presented by Vizio. Vizio was founded in 2002.

I think there is a difference when the corporate brand is inherently part of the name as compared to when it is merely designated as the key sponsor in the name ( "presented by" ). So, the Rose Bowl does not prove the point necessarily. However, the "Allstate Sugar Bowl" was dubbed the 78th Sugar Bowl in 2012, and we all know that Allstate was not the key sponsor when it was established in 1935.

I feel the need to assert how much I hate such flagrant corporate sponsorship, especially in naming rights, of college venues and events.

I agree, but how else are coaches supposed to make those millions.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: marty on May 05, 2012, 11:13:04 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
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The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

This year Oregon beat Wisconsin in the 98th Rose Bowl Game Presented by Vizio. Vizio was founded in 2002.

I think there is a difference when the corporate brand is inherently part of the name as compared to when it is merely designated as the key sponsor in the name ( "presented by" ). So, the Rose Bowl does not prove the point necessarily. However, the "Allstate Sugar Bowl" was dubbed the 78th Sugar Bowl in 2012, and we all know that Allstate was not the key sponsor when it was established in 1935.

I feel the need to assert how much I hate such flagrant corporate sponsorship, especially in naming rights, of college venues and events.

I agree, but how else are coaches supposed to make those millions.

By Sucking the University's Blood (http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?7,178651)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - long season
Post by: ugarte on May 06, 2012, 11:49:23 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Jim HylaFri-Sun 3/08-3/10 ECAC Prelims
Fri-Sun 3/15-3/17 ECAC Quarters
Fri-Sat 3/22-3/23 ECAC Semi & Finals

Fri-Sun 3/29-3/31 NCAA Regionals
Thu-Sat 4/11-4/13 NCAA Semi & Finals
[/code]
The NCAA title game is Saturday, April 13, which seems late. This year it was April 7. But the NCAA basketball title game is also pushing back, to April 8, 2013; this year it was April 2. In checking dates, I found this item from Wikipedia about basketball. Can't tell if it's oddly written or just business as usual with the NCAA: "This year will also mark the 75th edition of the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament (the actual 75th anniversary will come a year later)." Edition vs. anniversary?
If this Sunday  you held the First Annual Bill Howard Invitational Cribbage Championship, next year's would be the second "edition" held on the first anniversary  of the inaugural.

But if Tostitos decided to buy naming rights to the event then would it still be the 75th anniversary or would it be the "First Tostitos NCAA Championship"?

This year Oregon beat Wisconsin in the 98th Rose Bowl Game Presented by Vizio. Vizio was founded in 2002.

I think there is a difference when the corporate brand is inherently part of the name as compared to when it is merely designated as the key sponsor in the name ( "presented by" ). So, the Rose Bowl does not prove the point necessarily. However, the "Allstate Sugar Bowl" was dubbed the 78th Sugar Bowl in 2012, and we all know that Allstate was not the key sponsor when it was established in 1935.

I feel the need to assert how much I hate such flagrant corporate sponsorship, especially in naming rights, of college venues and events.
Doesn't this disprove your thesis so clearly that one wonders why you bothered typing at all? The corporate sponsors know exactly what they are doing: they are latching onto the coattails of an event with history, not creating something new. Your distinction is pedantic. The Rose Bowl is the only one with enough pride and sense of history to make sure that "Rose" is the first word out of the announcer's mouth, but otherwise there is no difference.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on May 24, 2012, 01:40:19 PM
Ferris State posted its 2012-13 schedule (http://www.ferrisstatebulldogs.com/sports/mice/2012-13/schedule) recently. Cornell will play Ferris State in the first game in Estero, FL. I am not sure if we had determined the pairings yet.
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on June 08, 2012, 09:26:54 AM
The facebook account for the Cornell Alumni Association posted a picture of a poster up at reunion.  Saturday  Nov 24 - 8pm - MSG
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150952418865680&set=a.370774665679.159440.357958385679&type=3&theater
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: RichH on June 08, 2012, 10:29:36 AM
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04The facebook account for the Cornell Alumni Association posted a picture of a poster up at reunion.  Saturday  Nov 24 - 8pm - MSG
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150952418865680&set=a.370774665679.159440.357958385679&type=3&theater

Now I'm nervous. MSG appears to be about ready to capsize.  I've heard of games where the ice appears to be tilted, but that's a little ridiculous.

Is this thing on?
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: munchkin on June 08, 2012, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04The facebook account for the Cornell Alumni Association posted a picture of a poster up at reunion.  Saturday  Nov 24 - 8pm - MSG
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150952418865680&set=a.370774665679.159440.357958385679&type=3&theater

Now I'm nervous. MSG appears to be about ready to capsize.  I've heard of games where the ice appears to be tilted, but that's a little ridiculous.

Is this thing on?

Based on a friend who is at Reunion and sent that poster via text, it appears to be so.
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: jtn27 on June 08, 2012, 01:28:58 PM
Quote from: munchkin
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04The facebook account for the Cornell Alumni Association posted a picture of a poster up at reunion.  Saturday  Nov 24 - 8pm - MSG
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150952418865680&set=a.370774665679.159440.357958385679&type=3&theater

Now I'm nervous. MSG appears to be about ready to capsize.  I've heard of games where the ice appears to be tilted, but that's a little ridiculous.

Is this thing on?

Based on a friend who is at Reunion and sent that poster via text, it appears to be so.

I think the game is on, unless, as Chris Dilks has suggested is possible, Cornell and Michigan are getting married at MSG.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDilks/status/211108899263225857
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: cbuckser on June 08, 2012, 02:40:10 PM
Michigan's rivals.com site is reporting it (http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373467), too. That article notes that the contract still hasn't been signed.

But all indications over the last four months point toward this game being played in Madison Square Garden.

It's great that Cornell can take advantage of the obsolescence of the College Hockey Showcase.  For many years, Michigan (and Michigan State) played Minnesota and Wisconsin every Thanksgiving weekend.
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: Ronald '09 on June 08, 2012, 10:34:16 PM
Quote from: cbuckserMichigan's rivals.com site is reporting it (http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373467), too. That article notes that the contract still hasn't been signed.

But all indications over the last four months point toward this game being played in Madison Square Garden.

It's great that Cornell can take advantage of the obsolescence of the College Hockey Showcase.  For many years, Michigan (and Michigan State) played Minnesota and Wisconsin every Thanksgiving weekend.

Hopefully the penalty box door at the Garden opens properly that night.
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: billhoward on June 11, 2012, 04:06:37 PM
Cornell has often used Reunion and the midwinter CALC (Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference, moving from DC to Boston for January 2013) to announce events like this.

Now with Michigan set, what about the Cornell-BU Red Hot Hockey series that played MSG that last three odd-number years? Most likely, Cornell is testing the waters to see if the Cornell fan base can handle an every-year MSG event. Best case, Cornell-BU Red Hot hockey continues in odd years, Cornell-somebody else plays even years.
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on June 12, 2012, 11:38:59 AM
Quote from: billhowardCornell has often used Reunion and the midwinter CALC (Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference, moving from DC to Boston for January 2013) to announce events like this.

Now with Michigan set, what about the Cornell-BU Red Hot Hockey series that played MSG that last three odd-number years? Most likely, Cornell is testing the waters to see if the Cornell fan base can handle an every-year MSG event. Best case, Cornell-BU Red Hot hockey continues in odd years, Cornell-somebody else plays even years.

I think it would be interesting to have the non-BU years involve a game against a member of the Big Ten Hockey Conference, like Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Penn State, or Wisconsin. I think that Ohio State would be the least beneficial and have the smallest draw. That is why it is the one member of the Big Ten that I omitted. I think a Cornell-Big Ten annual match-up makes sense. As one of my Government professors said at Cornell:

Quote from: Professor Isaac KramnickCornell is the only Ivy League school with a Big Ten heart...I have come to love this place in my [forty] years of teaching here, to love this Ivy League school with its Big Ten soul, this university that since its birth has played such a rebellious and innovative role in American higher education.
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: Trotsky on June 12, 2012, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: billhowardCornell has often used Reunion and the midwinter CALC (Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference, moving from DC to Boston for January 2013) to announce events like this.

Now with Michigan set, what about the Cornell-BU Red Hot Hockey series that played MSG that last three odd-number years? Most likely, Cornell is testing the waters to see if the Cornell fan base can handle an every-year MSG event. Best case, Cornell-BU Red Hot hockey continues in odd years, Cornell-somebody else plays even years.

I also like this because it makes Cornell the de facto "home team" even for the BU games.  Locking in both NYC around Thanksgiving and Florida around New Years gives us a little extra something.

Particularly if we started freaking winning those games...
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: css228 on June 12, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: billhowardCornell has often used Reunion and the midwinter CALC (Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference, moving from DC to Boston for January 2013) to announce events like this.

Now with Michigan set, what about the Cornell-BU Red Hot Hockey series that played MSG that last three odd-number years? Most likely, Cornell is testing the waters to see if the Cornell fan base can handle an every-year MSG event. Best case, Cornell-BU Red Hot hockey continues in odd years, Cornell-somebody else plays even years.

I think it would be interesting to have the non-BU years involve a game against a member of the Big Ten Hockey Conference, like Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Penn State, or Wisconsin. I think that Ohio State would be the least beneficial and have the smallest draw. That is why it is the one member of the Big Ten that I omitted. I think a Cornell-Big Ten annual match-up makes sense. As one of my Government professors said at Cornell:

Quote from: Professor Isaac KramnickCornell is the only Ivy League school with a Big Ten heart...I have come to love this place in my [forty] years of teaching here, to love this Ivy League school with its Big Ten soul, this university that since its birth has played such a rebellious and innovative role in American higher education.
I have heard him say this, and I agree one hundred percent.
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: billhoward on June 12, 2012, 02:10:49 PM
Quote from: Professor Isaac KramnickCornell is the only Ivy League school with a Big Ten heart...I have come to love this place in my [forty] years of teaching here, to love this Ivy League school with its Big Ten soul, this university that since its birth has played such a rebellious and innovative role in American higher education.
Cornell is the one Ivy School that tries to have a big time marching band. Stanford is the only big time school that tries to have an Ivy marching band. Good for us both. How'd that tech campus thing work out, Stanford?
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: French Rage on June 12, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Professor Isaac KramnickCornell is the only Ivy League school with a Big Ten heart...I have come to love this place in my [forty] years of teaching here, to love this Ivy League school with its Big Ten soul, this university that since its birth has played such a rebellious and innovative role in American higher education.
Cornell is the one Ivy School that tries to have a big time marching band. Stanford is the only big time school that tries to have an Ivy marching band. Good for us both. How'd that tech campus thing work out, Stanford?

Yeah, fuck those guys for wanting the same thing as us and competing with us within the rules!
Title: Re: Michigan game seems confirmed
Post by: David Harding on June 13, 2012, 12:50:13 AM
Quote from: munchkin
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04The facebook account for the Cornell Alumni Association posted a picture of a poster up at reunion.  Saturday  Nov 24 - 8pm - MSG
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150952418865680&set=a.370774665679.159440.357958385679&type=3&theater

Now I'm nervous. MSG appears to be about ready to capsize.  I've heard of games where the ice appears to be tilted, but that's a little ridiculous.

Is this thing on?

Based on a friend who is at Reunion and sent that poster via text, it appears to be so.

I didn't take a picture, but the posters were all over our class headquarters (Keeton Hall) at reunions.  At the bottom was something about watching the Athletics site for more information.  I expect there will be an e-mail blast from them when the time comes.
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on June 20, 2012, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: billhowardHow'd that tech campus thing work out, Stanford?

+1
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: Jim Hyla on June 29, 2012, 05:45:30 PM
For those who get hotel rooms for the regionals early, Ken Schott reports the dates as:

QuoteThe dates for the 2013 NCAA hockey tournament regionals have been finalized, it was announced Friday.

The Northeast Regional in Manchester, N.H., and the West Regional in Grand Rapids, Mich., will be March 29-30.

The East Regional in Providence, R.I., and the Midwest Regional in Toledo, Ohio, will be March 30-31.

Game times and networks will be announced in September for regionals and the Frozen Four. The Frozen Four will be in Pittsburgh April 11-13.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on July 11, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
Does anyone know when the official schedule will be released? I thought it was usually out by now.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on July 11, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: jtn27Does anyone know when the official schedule will be released? I thought it was usually out by now.

Cornell, Harvard, and Princeton have not announced for what it's worth. Also, I think it is out by now usually. It was out last season by this time.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on July 11, 2012, 10:03:44 PM
Quote from: jtn27Does anyone know when the official schedule will be released? I thought it was usually out by now.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  
May 23, 2011 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/5/23/MICE_0523111508.aspx?path=mhockey)
August 6, 2010 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2010/8/6/MICE_0806104214.aspx?path=mhockey)
July 7, 2009 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2009/7/6/MICE_0706094031.aspx?path=mhockey)
June 6, 2008 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2008/6/20/mih_080620.aspx?path=mhockey)
July 30, 2007 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2007/7/30/0708_mih_schedule.aspx?path=mhockey)
September 26, 2006 (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2006/9/26/092606aaa_2457.aspx?path=mhockey)
Title: Re: Michigan MSG 2012 - what of BU 2013
Post by: Trotsky on July 12, 2012, 01:58:06 PM
Quote from: French RageYeah, fuck those guys for wanting the same thing as us and competing with us within the rules!

As we.

I would expect a Stanford man to get that right...   ;)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ithacat on July 12, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
U18 National team will visit Lynah on 10/19.

http://www.usahockey.com/USANTDP/Schedule.aspx
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Jim Hyla on July 13, 2012, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: ithacatU18 National team will visit Lynah on 10/19.

http://www.usahockey.com/USANTDP/Schedule.aspx
Thanks
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on July 14, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: ithacatU18 National team will visit Lynah on 10/19.

http://www.usahockey.com/USANTDP/Schedule.aspx
That team should (?) include Ryan Bliss (incoming Fall 2014) and Mike McCarron (Fall 2013).
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: pfibiger on July 14, 2012, 01:27:12 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ithacatU18 National team will visit Lynah on 10/19.

http://www.usahockey.com/USANTDP/Schedule.aspx
That team should (?) include Ryan Bliss (incoming Fall 2014) and Mike McCarron (Fall 2013).

Ryan Bliss is playing for the U17 this year. Assuming the NTDP U-18 team comes through next year as well, he'll get to play in front of his future crowd then.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ithacat on July 19, 2012, 04:51:34 PM
Colgate's schedule released: http://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: jtn27 on July 19, 2012, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: ithacatColgate's schedule released: http://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?path=mhock&

We're starting conference play with a home and home vs Colgate. That's interesting.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: George64 on July 20, 2012, 05:34:26 PM
2012-13 Cornell schedule (http://www.cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=605)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: ursusminor on July 21, 2012, 03:15:39 AM
Quote from: George642012-13 Cornell schedule (http://www.cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=605)

Cornell obviously uses the same software that RPI uses. IMO, the fairly recent change in formatting of the schedule page is particularly hard on the eyes. RPI's. (http://www.rpiathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=hockey&)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: RichH on July 21, 2012, 10:50:11 AM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: George642012-13 Cornell schedule (http://www.cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=605)

Cornell obviously uses the same software that RPI uses. IMO, the fairly recent change in formatting of the schedule page is particularly hard on the eyes. RPI's. (http://www.rpiathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=hockey&)

Well, same web design contractor, anyway. Sidearm Sports.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: French Rage on July 21, 2012, 01:09:03 PM
Is it me, or does it seem like an inordinate number of senior weekends have been the Union/RPI weekend over the last few years?
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on July 21, 2012, 04:07:28 PM
Quote from: French RageIs it me, or does it seem like an inordinate number of senior weekends have been the Union/RPI weekend over the last few years?

From what I remember from memory, 2010 was against RPI, 2011 was against Dartmouth, and 2012 was against RPI.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Redscore on July 22, 2012, 01:48:30 PM
What an amazing out of conference schedule!!!!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Josh '99 on July 23, 2012, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: RedscoreWhat an amazing out of conference schedule!!!!
Seriously.  And, given the limited weekends available for scheduling nonconference opponents, I guess two (non-Red/White) scrimmages before opening with CC at home isn't too bad.

I do wonder why there's a Cornell logo next to the Michigan game.  Surely someone could have set their font to really big and yellow and typed an "M" if they didn't have an official Michigan logo image available.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: BMac on August 03, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
Funny you mention that.

Since I went to school, it's FEELS like senior night has almost always been against Union.

But turns out my perception is wrong. Three of the last nine years have been Union; 5/9 have been Union/RPI.

Senior night:
2004-2005 Union
2005-2006 Harvard (though we ended the season away @Union)
2006-2007 Princeton
2007-2008 Harvard :-(
2008-2009 Union
2009-2010 RPI
2010-2011 Dartmouth
2011-2012 RPI
2012-2013 Union

Perhaps I think it's always Union because we played them for senior night when I was an impressionable freshman. We had already locked in our regular season win and top seed, but the game:
A- Ensured an unbeaten record at home for the season
B- Was incredibly, incredibly loud when Moulson scored a hat trick.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on August 03, 2012, 07:11:35 PM
The 2008 senior night against Harvard never happened.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on August 07, 2012, 11:17:16 AM
All of the teams of the ECAC have announced their schedules. I tabulated the out-of-conference opponents that each team will play and I calculated the number of games that ECAC teams have against teams from other conferences. Surprisingly, ECAC teams will play more Hockey East teams than Atlantic Hockey teams this season. Sullivan from USCHO.com commented last season how Atlantic Hockey teams are typically the most common conference from which ECAC teams find out-of-conference opponents. I thought the change was interesting. Opponents listed in parentheses are those match-ups that are dependent upon tournament seeding or results. This gives us a glimpse at what out-of-conference PWR points will be available during next season (yes, I realize it is too early to pay attention to PWR, but I invite those comments nonetheless).

2012-13 Men's Ice Hockey Schedule

ECAC Out-of-Conference Opponents


30-32 Games Against Hockey East Opponents
27 Games Against Atlantic Hockey Opponents
15 Games Against CCHA Opponents
13-15 Games Against WCHA Opponents
4 Games Against Independent Opponents

Alabama-Huntsville            
SLU
American International      
(Brown), Quinnipiac, Union
Army            
Brown
Bentley               
Dartmouth, Harvard
(Bemidji State)         
Dartmouth
Boston College         
Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale
Boston University      
Harvard, RPI, SLU
Bowling Green         
Colgate, Union
Canisius         
Brown
Colorado College      
Clarkson, Cornell, Yale
Denver         
Cornell, Yale
Ferris State         
Cornell, RPI
Holy Cross         
Clarkson, Yale
Lake Superior State      
Union
Maine         
Cornell), SLU
Mercyhurst         
Brown, RPI
Merrimack         
Colgate, Princeton, Union
Miami            
Colgate
Michigan         
Cornell
(Minnesota-Duluth)      
Cornell
Minnesota State         
Brown, RPI
Niagara            
Brown
Northeastern         
Harvard, SLU
Ohio State         
Quinnipiac
Penn State         
Union
Providence         
Brown
RIT            
Clarkson, Colgate, SLU
Robert Morris            
Quinnipiac
Sacred Heart         
Colgate, Princeton, RPI
St. Cloud State         
RPI
UConn            
(Brown), Quinnipiac, Union
UMass            
Colgate, (Dartmouth), Yale
UMass-Lowell         
Clarkson, Harvard, Princeton
UNH            
Dartmouth, RPI
UNO            
Quinnipiac
Vermont         
Colgate, Dartmouth, Princeton, SLU, Union
Western Michigan      
SLU
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: HeafDog on November 05, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
Forgive me if I missed this, but is there a Google Calendar for this season? If so, could someone please provide the attachment or URL? Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: RichH on November 06, 2012, 01:45:26 AM
Quote from: HeafDogForgive me if I missed this, but is there a Google Calendar for this season? If so, could someone please provide the attachment or URL? Thanks!

eLynah: wap.ELynah.com/CUMensHockey.ics
CU Athletics: www.cornellbigred.com/calendar.ashx/calendar.ics?sport_id=7
CHN: www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team-cal.php?s=20122013&td=18
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: HeafDog on November 08, 2012, 10:41:20 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: HeafDogForgive me if I missed this, but is there a Google Calendar for this season? If so, could someone please provide the attachment or URL? Thanks!

eLynah: wap.ELynah.com/CUMensHockey.ics
CU Athletics: www.cornellbigred.com/calendar.ashx/calendar.ics?sport_id=7
CHN: www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/team-cal.php?s=20122013&td=18

muchas gracias ricardo
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - 2014 regionals
Post by: billhoward on February 12, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
2013-14, the year Cornell is supposed to peak (Iles senior year, Ferlin a resurgent junior, nobody leaves early, etcetera), the four NCAA regional sites are  http://www.uscho.com/2012/11/01/ncaa-gives-2014-mens-regionals-to-worcester-bridgeport-st-paul-cincinnati/:

Bridgeport, 255 miles
Worcester, 295 miles
Cincinnati, 575 miles  
St. Paul, 1,075 miles (when you google "Ithaca NY to St Paul" it switches from driving miles to flight options)

I see Cornell as a lock on St. Paul. (Woofing Gods don't carry over to next season.) The Frozen Four weekend is Philadelphia.
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule - 2014 regionals
Post by: Trotsky on February 12, 2013, 04:48:21 PM
I'm starting to think we will "peak" (not really sure what that means when we're going to wrong way) with the class of '15 (whenever they decide to do so -- hopefully it wasn't 2012).
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: David Harding on September 11, 2019, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: marty THE
Quote from: Jim HylaI quit. I think I do.:-}
Ohio State's application to trademark the word 'The' denied by U.S. Patent office today (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/ohio-states-application-to-trademark-the-word-the-denied-by-us-patent-office/)
Title: Re: 2012-13 Schedule
Post by: Trotsky on September 12, 2019, 09:43:28 AM
And that's how you do a callback.