That. Was awful.
Harvard beats Yale 4-3, anyway.
What the hell was that?
Quote from: css228What the hell was that?
Couldn't have said it better. The only period that looked at all like this year's team was the second. Speechless and disappointed
Look at it as cathartic. Hopefully they got it out of their systems. I would certainly do some work on the power play and clearing against a 2-man forecheck though.
Quote from: css228What the hell was that?
Frankly, I've been thinking that since the 3rd period vs. Dartmouth. The 3rd period vs. Harvard was the most lifeless period vs. the Crimson I can remember, especially on the PP. This team needs to wake up on both sides of the puck, and soon.
That was the worst display this season. There are a couple of players, who supposedly are leaders, who should sit for a game. PP was god awful. I can't for the life of me figure out why they treat every goalie they face as the next Sawchuk or Roy. Shoot the puck and get the rebounds. Especially on a night when nothing is working.
This loss has been coming for awhile. Colgate played a really solid game, and had the far better scoring chances, although neither team had that many after the 1st period. Iles probably stole at least two additional goals in the first period to keep us in the game.
Colgate simply outworked us in every phase, and played one of the best third periods with a lead that I've seen in some time. Our "power play" tonight was abysmal, especially the last full one with four minutes left. As the commentator observed, we seemed to have virtually no open ice the entire game. Agreed that our only decent period was the second, and we simply did not do enough to put much of scare in the Raiders.
I don't know if the Freshmen have hit a bit of a wall, but it sure looks that way. Also, missing Esposito doesn't help the offense any, and I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
Big gut check tomorrow night.
Quote from: MattSThat was the worst display this season. There are a couple of players, who supposedly are leaders, who should sit for a game. PP was god awful. I can't for the life of me figure out why they treat every goalie they face as the next Sawchuk or Roy. Shoot the puck and get the rebounds. Especially on a night when nothing is working.
The umbrella only works if you take shots and get deflections. We have the talent to play overload, and we play overload in 5 on 5 situations, why aren't we overloading and going for weak-side one timers on the Power Play (of course playing overload means the focus is on creating players out of position which would mean even more of the "SHOOOOT" cries from the fans)
Quote from: css228Quote from: MattSThat was the worst display this season. There are a couple of players, who supposedly are leaders, who should sit for a game. PP was god awful. I can't for the life of me figure out why they treat every goalie they face as the next Sawchuk or Roy. Shoot the puck and get the rebounds. Especially on a night when nothing is working.
The umbrella only works if you take shots and get deflections. We have the talent to play overload, and we play overload in 5 on 5 situations, why aren't we overloading and going for weak-side one timers on the Power Play (of course playing overload means the focus is on creating players out of position which would mean even more of the "SHOOOOT" cries from the fans)
We don't seem to have anyone particularly skilled in making deflections, and that is hurting the power play. It seems ages ago that Joe Devin was planted in front of the net deflecting pucks into the net. I think Collins had a few defletions last year, but I don't recall any this season.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: css228Quote from: MattSThat was the worst display this season. There are a couple of players, who supposedly are leaders, who should sit for a game. PP was god awful. I can't for the life of me figure out why they treat every goalie they face as the next Sawchuk or Roy. Shoot the puck and get the rebounds. Especially on a night when nothing is working.
The umbrella only works if you take shots and get deflections. We have the talent to play overload, and we play overload in 5 on 5 situations, why aren't we overloading and going for weak-side one timers on the Power Play (of course playing overload means the focus is on creating players out of position which would mean even more of the "SHOOOOT" cries from the fans)
We don't seem to have anyone particularly skilled in making deflections, and that is hurting the power play. It seems ages ago that Joe Devin was planted in front of the net deflecting pucks into the net. I think Collins had a few defletions last year, but I don't recall any this season.
We're so much better suited to a puck possession style Power Play that actually moves defenders around than allowing teams to cover us with a Wedge +1
Brutal. One shot on goal in the third period? When trailing entering it? In your own rink? Huh? For weeks I've been worried about the team's shot totals; even in victories the figure was often alarmingly low, and one sensed they were living on borrowed time (and Iles's stellar work). It spells trouble going forward.
Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
Agree with the comments above. Hoping and praying that Miller's injury at end of the game is a short term thing!
Colgate out hustled us completely most of first period and and a good bit of the third.
Our passing was really out of sync!
Onward to the return match at Starr - LGR!
Quote from: Chris '03Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
I think he's trying to do too much. Sometimes it seems to me like he tries that "one extra move" and it's just not working for him. I also wonder his conditioning right now. It seems like he's gassed after about 10-15 seconds into the shift.
Quote from: MattSQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
I think he's trying to do too much. Sometimes it seems to me like he tries that "one extra move" and it's just not working for him. I also wonder his conditioning right now. It seems like he's gassed after about 10-15 seconds into the shift.
Hope the World Junior camp didn't take too much out emotionally/physically.
All I'll say about this game is that four of us drove up from Connecticut for the game. After the first period, one of my friends said, "I drove five hours for this?" At least my post-game PMP was good.
Quote from: MattSQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
I think he's trying to do too much. Sometimes it seems to me like he tries that "one extra move" and it's just not working for him. I also wonder his conditioning right now. It seems like he's gassed after about 10-15 seconds into the shift.
I agree with the trying too much, but not the gassed part. Watch him closely, he often stays out longer than his linemates. But when he's got the puck, like you said, sometimes he'd do a lot better to shoot or pass earlier.
As far as the team goes, they're obviously in a slump, and have been for a few weeks. However they still have managed to win, while playing poorly. As was said earlier, we were due for this. Hopefully it will wake them up. I still like our team, even compared to Colgate. They have 9 seniors and 8 juniors, and we are 4 and 7. Look around the league. Remember when the talk was we can't keep up with Yale, where are they now? Colgate's having a nice season, but this was their first win in January, and last year was a disaster. To be in first place this year is remarkable.
But it still doesn't seem to make up for this disappointment of watching a third period like tonight.
Quote from: css228Quote from: MattSThat was the worst display this season. There are a couple of players, who supposedly are leaders, who should sit for a game. PP was god awful. I can't for the life of me figure out why they treat every goalie they face as the next Sawchuk or Roy. Shoot the puck and get the rebounds. Especially on a night when nothing is working.
The umbrella only works if you take shots and get deflections. We have the talent to play overload, and we play overload in 5 on 5 situations, why aren't we overloading and going for weak-side one timers on the Power Play (of course playing overload means the focus is on creating players out of position which would mean even more of the "SHOOOOT" cries from the fans)
Yes, I got hammered awhile back for suggesting the old spray-'n-pray ("Oh, yeah....
that'll work!!".)
What I really meant, for the less literal in the group, was that it's tough to tip in a deflection or hammer in a rebound
if nobody is taking any shots in the first place!
::twak::
Nothing to add...
Agree with all...
Power Play non-existent, Ferlin vanshed, No hustle, etc. etc.
Don't know what to say...
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: MattSQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
I think he's trying to do too much. Sometimes it seems to me like he tries that "one extra move" and it's just not working for him. I also wonder his conditioning right now. It seems like he's gassed after about 10-15 seconds into the shift.
I agree with the trying too much, but not the gassed part. Watch him closely, he often stays out longer than his linemates. But when he's got the puck, like you said, sometimes he'd do a lot better to shoot or pass earlier.
As far as the team goes, they're obviously in a slump, and have been for a few weeks. However they still have managed to win, while playing poorly. As was said earlier, we were due for this. Hopefully it will wake them up. I still like our team, even compared to Colgate. They have 9 seniors and 8 juniors, and we are 4 and 7. Look around the league. Remember when the talk was we can't keep up with Yale, where are they now? Colgate's having a nice season, but this was their first win in January, and last year was a disaster. To be in first place this year is remarkable.
But it still doesn't seem to make up for this disappointment of watching a third period like tonight.
I agree with Jim that they have been in a slump recently and the only reason people don't feel it is because they haven't lost before Friday. We had some great chances in the first 10 minutes of the third, but players got frustrated after not being able to score and the team crumbled from that point. According to Colgate fans, this is one of the best nights the Raiders' had in a long while, so I assume that they cannot muster the same level of intensity again at Starr (maybe wishful thinking on my end). We can still bounce back and there's nothing to recommend other than play better.
Our PWR took an exepectedly large hit. Cornell is down to 17th. It is amazing how the tone of one bad night can sour the outlook of a season.
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinOur PWR took an exepectedly large hit. Cornell is down to 17th. It is amazing how the tone of one bad night can sour the outlook of a season.
This is why playing with the computer "what if"apps this early in the season is a form of self abuse.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: MattSQuote from: Chris '03Quote from: scoop85I think Ferlin's play especially is suffering because of Espo's absence.
I've been wondering about Ferlin for the past few weeks too. In the first half it seemed he was always a threat whenever he was on the ice. I've barely noticed him lately, even before the Espo injury.
I think he's trying to do too much. Sometimes it seems to me like he tries that "one extra move" and it's just not working for him. I also wonder his conditioning right now. It seems like he's gassed after about 10-15 seconds into the shift.
I agree with the trying too much, but not the gassed part. Watch him closely, he often stays out longer than his linemates. But when he's got the puck, like you said, sometimes he'd do a lot better to shoot or pass earlier.
As far as the team goes, they're obviously in a slump, and have been for a few weeks. However they still have managed to win, while playing poorly. As was said earlier, we were due for this. Hopefully it will wake them up. I still like our team, even compared to Colgate. They have 9 seniors and 8 juniors, and we are 4 and 7. Look around the league. Remember when the talk was we can't keep up with Yale, where are they now? Colgate's having a nice season, but this was their first win in January, and last year was a disaster. To be in first place this year is remarkable.
But it still doesn't seem to make up for this disappointment of watching a third period like tonight.
It's not the length of Ferlin's shifts but the quality of them. He seems to come offthe bench and go all out for 15 seconds, then he kind of coasts for the remainder of the shirt. I think he could and would do better to temper his energy throughout the shift.
Quote from: martyQuote from: Aaron M. GriffinOur PWR took an exepectedly large hit. Cornell is down to 17th. It is amazing how the tone of one bad night can sour the outlook of a season.
This is why playing with the computer "what if"apps this early in the season is a form of self abuse.
Yet it's worth noting that these are enormously important games for postseason chances, if one cares about that kind of thing. Colgate is unlikely to dip below the TUC cliff, so adding in an 0-2 to our record vs. TUCs is, by definition, not a good thing.
Gotovets was an absolute beast against Princeton playing wing. Anyone know why he has not played for 3 games after he was one of the best performers against Princeton?
Ryan needs to close the gap on the shooter on the second Colgate goal, he had a red carpet right to the front of the net. He was also turned around on the first goal although I didn't see it live, just a brief replay clip. Nice goal but some youthful defensive mistakes....