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Title: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 17, 2012, 07:54:32 AM
Here's this week, 1/16. My thanks to Ken Schott.

USCHO.com/NCAA Poll
Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week
1 Minnesota-Duluth(50) 15-4-3 1000 1
2 Boston University    13-6-1 871 6
3 Boston College       14-8-1 856 4
4 Minnesota            16-8-1 783 5
5 Ohio State           14-6-3 780 2
6 Merrimack            12-4-5 747 7
7 Notre Dame           13-8-3 731 3
8 Western Michigan     12-7-5 627 10
9 Cornell              10-4-3 571 9
10 Michigan            14-8-4 563 15
11 Colorado College    13-8-1 505 8
12 Union               12-5-6 417 14
13 Ferris State        14-8-2 396 13
14 Massachusetts-Lowell12-6-0 370 11
15 Denver              13-8-3 338 16
16 Michigan State      12-9-3 205 18
17 North Dakota        12-9-2 201 17
18 Colgate             12-8-2 156 12
19 Lake Superior       13-10-3 129 19
20 Miami               12-10-2 91 NR
Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan 81, Nebraska-Omaha 43, Quinnipiac 15, Harvard 6, Northeastern 6, Minnesota
State 4, Maine 3, RIT 2, St. Cloud State 2, Mercyhurst 1.

USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll
(First-place votes in parentheses)
Rank School Last Week's Ranking 2011-12 Record Weeks in Top 15
1 Minnesota Duluth,(34)510 1 15-4-3 15
2 Minnesota,           435 5 16-8-1 14
3 Boston University,   422 6 13-6-1 12
4 Boston College,      406 4 14-8-1 15
5 Ohio State,          363 2 14-6-3 9
6 Notre Dame,          335 3 13-8-3 15
7 Merrimack,           321 7 12-4-5 14
8 Western Michigan,    275 11 12-7-5 15
9 Cornell,             232 9 10-4-3 5
10 Michigan,           191 15 14-8-4 11
11 Colorado College,   165 8 13-8-1 15
12 Union,              152 13 12-5-6 13
13 UMass Lowell,        97 10 12-6-0 3
14 Ferris State,        84 12 14-8-2 10
15 Denver,              60 NR 13-8-3 14
Others receiving votes: North Dakota, 8; Colgate, 7; Northern Michigan, 7; Michigan State, 5; Nebraska Omaha, 3; Miami (Ohio), 1; Quinnipiac, 1.

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: nyc94 on January 23, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Cornell remains at no. 9 in the USCHO poll.  Up four spots to 5 in the INCH Power Ranking.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: css228 on January 23, 2012, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: nyc94Cornell remains at no. 9 in the USCHO poll.  Up four spots to 5 in the INCH Power Ranking.
Up 3 spots to 6 in the USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine poll
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on January 23, 2012, 10:06:50 PM
I'm glad that others have begun to see in this team what many of us began to see a short time ago. I found INCH's new power rankings (http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/1112/polls_1017.htm) interesting (sorry if they were posted elsewhere I have not come across it). I was able to be at the Sucks game and I left Lynah somewhat deflated. A tie to Harvard feels like a loss. However, INCH has a point with ranking us fifth nationally in power rankings.

Quote from: Inside College HockeyThe Big Red held Harvard's nation-leading power play to just one goal in five opportunities in a 2-2 tie on Saturday night at Lynah Rink.

I guess they have a point.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 24, 2012, 07:37:02 AM
It's not from the polls, but I like this quote from USCHO's "What we learned" post:
QuoteNeed a sense of normalcy? Cornell took three points this weekend, extending the nation's longest unbeaten streak to seven games.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/ecac-blog/2012/01/23/rpi-rallying/#ixzz1kNXD93Aj
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on January 24, 2012, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaIt's not from the polls, but I like this quote from USCHO's "What we learned" post:
QuoteNeed a sense of normalcy? Cornell took three points this weekend, extending the nation's longest unbeaten streak to seven games.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/ecac-blog/2012/01/23/rpi-rallying/#ixzz1kNXD93Aj

I appreciated it. I guess that Nate Owen has learned quickly what is expected and the norm in the ECAC.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: scoop85 on January 24, 2012, 04:44:07 PM
While we certainly have been steady in racking-up points, I would like to see us control a bit more of the play than we have recently.  I thought we were on our heals a bit too much against Dartmouth, the successful result notwithstanding.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 24, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: scoop85While we certainly have been steady in racking-up points, I would like to see us control a bit more of the play than we have recently.  I thought we were on our heals a bit too much against Dartmouth, the successful result notwithstanding.
Agree.  One other data point:  at one point in the third period against Harvard, shots in the period were 5-2 for Cornell according to livestats.  From that point to the end of overtime, shots were Harvard 10, Cornell 0.  "On our heels a bit too much?"::worry::
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Josh '99 on January 24, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinI'm glad that others have begun to see in this team what many of us began to see a short time ago. I found INCH's new power rankings (http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/1112/polls_1017.htm) interesting (sorry if they were posted elsewhere I have not come across it). I was able to be at the Sucks game and I left Lynah somewhat deflated. A tie to Harvard feels like a loss. However, INCH has a point with ranking us fifth nationally in power rankings.

Quote from: Inside College HockeyThe Big Red held Harvard's nation-leading power play to just one goal in five opportunities in a 2-2 tie on Saturday night at Lynah Rink.

I guess they have a point.
After clicking through this link, I noticed that BU is now #2 in the INCH rankings and the USCHO poll, and #1 in the Pairwise.  Since losing back-to-back games against Lowell and Merrimack in early November to fall to 3-4-1, the Terriers are on a 12-2-0 run (starting with a resounding 5-0 win at BC, who were 9-2-e time, and including the game at MSG).  A tight loss to them looks a lot better now than it did at the time.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: ajh258 on January 25, 2012, 06:43:00 AM
http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/25/with-history-as-a-guide-ecac-hockey-teams-chase-cornell-down-the-stretch/

Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.

QuoteThe coach is an adaptor; don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.

Just call him trebu-Schafer.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on January 25, 2012, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: ajh258http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/25/with-history-as-a-guide-ecac-hockey-teams-chase-cornell-down-the-stretch/

Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.

QuoteThe coach is an adaptor; don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.

Just call him trebu-Schafer.

He's not getting any more t-shirts.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on January 25, 2012, 09:34:02 AM
Quote from: ajh258http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/25/with-history-as-a-guide-ecac-hockey-teams-chase-cornell-down-the-stretch/

Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.

QuoteThe coach is an adaptor; don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.

Just call him trebu-Schafer.
So, Sullivan plays Civ.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Scersk '97 on January 25, 2012, 11:05:30 AM
Quote from: Josh '99After clicking through this link, I noticed that BU is now #2 in the INCH rankings and the USCHO poll, and #1 in the Pairwise.  Since losing back-to-back games against Lowell and Merrimack in early November to fall to 3-4-1, the Terriers are on a 12-2-0 run (starting with a resounding 5-0 win at BC, who were 9-2-e time, and including the game at MSG).  A tight loss to them looks a lot better now than it did at the time.

Playing with John's DIY rankings calculator (http://69.31.82.90/~whelan/tbrw/2012/rankings.diy.shtml), note that changing the BU game to a tie makes a pretty damn good season look great rankings-wise and that changing the BU game to a win makes the season look dominant.  Like #3 nationally dominant.

I sometimes kind of hate the confluence of small numbers of events and small sample spaces.

(Indeed, after Lowell's recent loss, even just a tie makes us look golden.)

PS  Winning twice against Colgate this weekend would go a long way toward a great seed in the tournament.  Colgate is unlikely to drop out of contention, and they have some great non-conference wins that will help our common opponents criterion.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: munchkin on January 25, 2012, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: ajh258http://www.uscho.com/2012/01/25/with-history-as-a-guide-ecac-hockey-teams-chase-cornell-down-the-stretch/

Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.

QuoteThe coach is an adaptor; don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.

Just call him trebu-Schafer.
So, Sullivan plays Civ.
He really like to play Risk and Monopoly, I've never seen him play Civ.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: scoop85 on January 25, 2012, 03:25:21 PM
USCHO's first bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/01/25/following-the-criteria-shuffles-some-first-round-matchups/) of the season.  Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I think most of us would sign on the dotted line for this bracket.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Robb on January 25, 2012, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: scoop85USCHO's first bracketology (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/01/25/following-the-criteria-shuffles-some-first-round-matchups/) of the season.  Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I think most of us would sign on the dotted line for this bracket.
Yeah, that should be even easier than one including Bemidji...  ::bang::
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jordan 04 on January 25, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Bridgeport sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Josh '99 on January 25, 2012, 05:11:04 PM
Quote from: Jordan 04Bridgeport sounds good to me.
It sounds *convenient*; I can't say I agree that it sounds *good*.  :-}
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Brian Sullivan on January 25, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Quote from: munchkinHe really like to play Risk and Monopoly, I've never seen him play Civ.
No, I'm not really a big fan of Monopoly, actually. And I don't know what "Civ" is... Civilization? I just happen to possess a working knowledge of medieval warfare. And Cornell hockey, more than anyone else, reminds me of medieval warfare.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 25, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
I've been playing Bracketology for the past couple weeks.  I've ended up with us in any of the 4 brackets.  It's just far too volatile to make any firm predictions.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on January 25, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: Brian SullivanAnd I don't know what "Civ" is... Civilization? I just happen to possess a working knowledge of medieval warfare. And Cornell hockey, more than anyone else, reminds me of medieval warfare.

(http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/war_academy/civ5/units/big/trebuchet.png)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on January 30, 2012, 11:25:00 AM
Cornell took an expected and deserved tumble in the INCH Power Rankings this week (http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/1112/polls_1018.htm). We sit at tenth.

Quote from: Inside College HockeyWe guess it could have been worse for Cornell on a weekend where they were swept by travel-partner Colgate ... at least they remembered to pack their jerseys this time.

Interestingly, INCH sees something in this team that causes them to rank it above teams much better situated in the PWR: Michigan (8th in PWR), Ferris State (4th in PWR), Maine (10th in PWR), Ohio State (5th in PWR), Miami (10th in PWR), and North Dakota (16th in PWR).
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: billhoward on January 30, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I've been playing Bracketology for the past couple weeks.  I've ended up with us in any of the 4 brackets.  It's just far too volatile to make any firm predictions.
Prediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on January 30, 2012, 03:50:38 PM
Quote from: billhowardPrediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.

Given our play of late, if we manage to get a bid to the NCAA tournament this year, I will rejoice at the above prediction coming true, unreservedly and with abandon.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 30, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
Undefeated on big ice this year.::cheer::
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: snert1288 on January 30, 2012, 05:43:14 PM
Is MSG not considered big? It certainly felt much bigger than Lynah.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on January 30, 2012, 05:59:27 PM
Quote from: snert1288Is MSG not considered big? It certainly felt much bigger than Lynah.

MSG is 200x85, just like Lynah.  The seating just isn't as steep.  I'm reasonably certain that the NHL requires all their sheets to be 200x85, though I'm also certain someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: marty on January 30, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: billhowardPrediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.

Given our play of late, if we manage to get a bid to the NCAA tournament this year, I will rejoice at the above prediction coming true, unreservedly and with abandon.

You will,but Jim Hyla will rejoice with much trepidation.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on February 23, 2012, 01:43:13 PM
I won't bother posting the entire results here, but this week's USCHO.com poll has us as #11, up from #12 last week.

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

The latest Bracketology is interesting... has us in Green Bay as #15 vs. #2 Michigan, with the other regional semi #11 Miami vs. #5 Minnesota-Duluth.  That could be a great trio of games, especially with the preview it would give us of next season's Michigan game in Secaucus Bayonne New York City.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/02/22/some-location-switches-make-sense-for-boosting-attendance/

I know, polls don't mean anything, with the possibility of conference tourney upsets we probably have to win out to get into the NCAAs, blah blah blah... it's still fun to read.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on March 08, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
Now that we're back up to tied for 14th in the PWR, we're back in the "Bracketology" mix as a potential NCAA at-large bid.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/03/07/shuffling-no-3-seeds-to-keep-them-in-their-region/

Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with #5 Ferris State and #12 Michigan State the other regional semifinal.  He moves Ferris State to avoid the intraconference matchup in the first round, and we get #6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.

So in this hypothetical universe, we could - provided we pull off a fairly big upset over Mass-Lowell - get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four.  Now that would be an interesting opportunity.

I still think we should just win the ECAC tournament and not worry about the at-large bid, and I know that it might only take one or two upsets in the title games of other conference tournaments to knock us out of the top 15, but it's nice to know we're still in the mix.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 08, 2012, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: Beeeej...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four.  Now that would be an interesting opportunity.

It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2012, 02:04:38 AM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Beeeej...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four.  Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 09, 2012, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Beeeej...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four.  Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.
For vastly different reasons, fortunately.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: marty on March 09, 2012, 07:43:39 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: Beeeej...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four.  Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.
For vastly different reasons, fortunately.

I thought that we are expecting to be only down one - Brian Ferlin.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 09, 2012, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: BeeeejJayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.

Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU

Also from the blog post:

Quote from: Detroit OnLion...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.

Sound familiar?

I do like this section though:

Quote from: Detroit OnLionWhere football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: billhoward on March 09, 2012, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: BeeeejJayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.

Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU

Also from the blog post:

Quote from: Detroit OnLion...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.

Sound familiar?

I do like this section though:

Quote from: Detroit OnLionWhere football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
"Cult Known Only to a Few" replaces Ve Ri Tas on season tickets at Bright.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: KeithK on March 09, 2012, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinConsidering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer.  but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context.  I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school.  It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"

Just my quick impressions on that one.  If I'm missing something let me know.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on March 09, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinThis is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU

Funny that we're the ECAC school that that would be most appropriate for.  We've done "Go staht the cahh" for Harvard, and "Go start the tank" for Army. The only time Air Force came to Ithaca was in 1993, and I don't remember if the obvious variant was used.

Reading that blog post made me go to see if I could find the usual stories we post about the Cornell-Michigan Point-of-Thievery in 1991.  I found a nice article from the Michigan Daily that was written in 2010, that is probably the most detailed to date.  It's a really great read, especially the subsection titled "The Turning Point."

http://www.michigandaily.com/content/student-section

QuoteBut many of the Michigan fans were new to college hockey and didn't know how to pass the test presented by the Cornell contingent. So, the Wolverine fans took the Big Red's cheers.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2012, 01:36:23 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinConsidering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer.  but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context.  I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school.  It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"

Just my quick impressions on that one.  If I'm missing something let me know.
The sting in the cheer is that they're warming it up.  For example, we would chant "warm up the tank!" at Army.  Nobody was criticizing them for being soldiers; it just fit.

My complaint about tractor is that single syllables work better in that cheer.  For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 09, 2012, 02:04:22 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinConsidering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer.  but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context.  I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school.  It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"

Just my quick impressions on that one.  If I'm missing something let me know.
The sting in the cheer is that they're warming it up.  For example, we would chant "warm up the tank!" at Army.  Nobody was criticizing them for being soldiers; it just fit.

My complaint about tractor is that single syllables work better in that cheer.  For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"

And just how do you do that?

Yes, I know, you yell it; but...
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: marty on March 09, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
Let's not forget my favorite variation during an away trip to RPI. They used their Red Hawk for hockey for a few years.

Warm Up the Grill!
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 09, 2012, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: Aaron M. GriffinConsidering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer.  but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context.  I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school.  It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"

Just my quick impressions on that one.  If I'm missing something let me know.

You're right that it has to do with the rurality of East Lansing in part. So, it is only suspect if one views Ithaca as being as rural as East Lansing. I do not think it is.

Michigan intends it not as a jab at Michigan State being a land-grant institution (another thing that Cornell has in common with MSU). It intends it to mock Michigan State as what many Michigan fans depict as a "mere vocational school" or a "trade school." It mocks Michigan State's perceived lack of academic standards as well. It is as if one is calling Michigan State a rural safety school.

Quote from: TrotskyFor ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"

Valid point. I like "hoe" better. It works better for a crowd chanting it in unison. RPI's "that's debatable" when the opposing team returns to full strength gets incoherent because people speak at a different rate and it is exaggerated with the longer the word and the more syllables in the jeer.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 09, 2012, 02:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: TrotskyFor ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"

And just how do you do that?

Yes, I know, you yell it; but...

If you have to ask, then you're not doing it right. ;-)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on March 09, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
Quote from: martyLet's not forget my favorite variation during an away trip to RPI. They used their Red Hawk for hockey for a few years.

Warm Up the Grill!

Also: KFC! KFC!
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: CowbellGuy on March 09, 2012, 03:44:50 PM
"Warm up the moose" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: css228 on March 09, 2012, 04:54:39 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuy"Warm up the moose, eh?" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
FYP.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: jtn27 on March 09, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: CowbellGuy"Warm up the moose, eh?" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
FYP.

I thought it was "boose" not "moose" as in "bus" with a Canadian accent.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: abmarks on March 09, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Well considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.

And yes, I was at the infamaous '91 playoff series.

Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: BeeeejJayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.

Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article (http://detroitonlion.blogspot.com/2012/03/cult-of-yost-case-for-michigan-hockey.html) on the environment at Yost.

Quote from: Detroit OnLion"warm up the tractor" for MSU

Also from the blog post:

Quote from: Detroit OnLion...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.

Sound familiar?

I do like this section though:

Quote from: Detroit OnLionWhere football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on March 09, 2012, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: abmarksWell considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.

I think past discussions have pointed to Harvard as the source of that one, of all people.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on March 09, 2012, 11:39:28 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: abmarksWell considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.

I think past discussions have pointed to Harvard as the source of that one, of all people.
Harvard was who we stole it from, though they may have picked it up from somebody else during their NCAA runs of the 80's.

In the Harvard version, they repeated the goalie's name with each iteration, so the effect was actually a little better.

As difficult as it is to imagine, there was a time when Harvard actually had a decent crowd.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Beeeej on March 14, 2012, 05:33:44 PM
With Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/03/14/working-things-out-before-conference-championship-weekend/

I like this bracket a lot, too.

Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on March 14, 2012, 06:24:21 PM
Quote from: BeeeejWith Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/03/14/working-things-out-before-conference-championship-weekend/

I like this bracket a lot, too.

Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.

That's a lot of red.

And whatever that rust color Denver is.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 15, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BeeeejWith Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/03/14/working-things-out-before-conference-championship-weekend/

I like this bracket a lot, too.

Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.

That's a lot of red.

And whatever that rust color Denver is.

As opposed to this coming weekend:  Carnelian, crimson, maroon, and garnet.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on March 15, 2012, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: BeeeejWith Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.

http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2012/03/14/working-things-out-before-conference-championship-weekend/

I like this bracket a lot, too.

Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.

That's a lot of red.

And whatever that rust color Denver is.

As opposed to this coming weekend:  Carnelian, crimson, maroon, and garnet.

So there's Red, and a bunch of off-reds.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: BMac on March 15, 2012, 10:20:46 AM
We REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."

Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Aaron M. Griffin on March 15, 2012, 10:28:26 AM
Quote from: BMacWe REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."

Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.

I am glad that you shared that. Far surpasses Michigan's own taunting of MSU with "warm up the tractor."
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: French Rage on March 15, 2012, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: BMacWe REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."

Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.

People throwing water bottles might have factored in there too.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: jkahn on March 15, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: Aaron M. Griffin
Quote from: BMacWe REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."

Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.

I am glad that you shared that. Far surpasses Michigan's own taunting of MSU with "warm up the tractor."

For the series at MSU in Nov. '04, their crowd taunted us with "Harvard rejects" which was a perfect set up for our "Michigan rejects" response.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on March 20, 2012, 10:21:39 AM
We drop one spot in this week's poll:

1   Boston College
2   Michigan
3   Union
4   North Dakota
5   Minnesota-Duluth
6   Minnesota
7   Miami
8   Boston University
9   Ferris State
10   Denver
11   Maine
12   Western Michigan
13   Massachusetts-Lowell
14   Cornell
15   Michigan State
16   Air Force
17   Merrimack
18   Harvard
19   Notre Dame
20   Northern Michigan
Title: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: RichH on April 09, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2012, 06:39:10 PM
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

And considering how close we were to 2 & 3, not a bad season.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: jtn27 on April 09, 2012, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: Ronald '09 on April 09, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.


RPI beat us.  So did UMass.  So did Brown.  Should those teams be ahead of us?
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: jtn27 on April 09, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
Quote from: Ronald '09
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.


RPI beat us.  So did UMass.  So did Brown.  Should those teams be ahead of us?

But we beat Michigan in the playoffs. That's what counts.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: css228 on April 09, 2012, 08:13:57 PM
Quote from: Ronald '09
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.


RPI beat us.  So did UMass.  So did Brown.  Should those teams be ahead of us?
Yes. And UAH beat Denver at Denver. So obviously they should be at 12!
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: KeithK on April 09, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: Ronald '09
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.


RPI beat us.  So did UMass.  So did Brown.  Should those teams be ahead of us?

But we beat Michigan in the playoffs. That's what counts.
Insofar as we're bothering to have a poll at this time of year voters should still be voting base don who is the best team given all of the available evidence.  It shouldn't just be basedon playoff results.  Small sample sizes and all.

Thought experiment. Let's say that the Air Force goalie started to channel the spirit of Ken Dryden in the tournament and managed to earn four 1-0 shut outs while his team was outshot by an average of 50-5.  Air Force would then be the national champions. But given the peripherals would it make sense to vote them the #1 team in the country? I don't think so.

If you just want the final polls to follow the NC$$ tournament results then why bother havin a poll in the first place?  Wait.  Why do we have a poll after the tournament? :-D
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: ugarte on April 09, 2012, 09:07:37 PM
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
I just got a call from the Sun Sports Editor. You're fired. Fortunately I also got a call from Skip Bayless and you're hired.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: jtn27 on April 09, 2012, 10:14:18 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: jtn27
Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
I just got a call from the Sun Sports Editor. You're fired. Fortunately I also got a call from Skip Bayless and you're hired.

Seeing as how I just went from writing just 2 sports articles ever for a college newspaper to appearing on a national television show I'd say that's a pretty good deal.
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: marty on April 09, 2012, 11:07:05 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Ronald '09
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Quote from: RichHThanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.


1   Boston College   (50)   33-10-1    1000   1
2   Ferris State      26-12-5    939   9
3   Union              26- 8-7    871   3
4   Minnesota      28-14-1    857   6
5   North Dakota      26-13-3    748   4
6   Minnesota-Duluth   25-10-6    739   5
7   Michigan      24-13-4    702   2
8   Miami              24-15-2    545   7
9   Massachusetts-Lowell   24-13-1    537   13
10   Cornell              19- 9-7    529   14
11   Boston University       23-15-1    518   8
12   Denver              25-14-4    510   10
13   Maine              23-14-3    483   11
14   Western Michigan   21-14-6    423   12
15   Michigan State      19-16-4    271   15
16   Air Force      21-11-7    246   16
17   Merrimack      18-12-7    192   17
18   Harvard              13-10-11 133   18
19   Notre Dame      19-18-3    100   19
20   Northern Michigan   17-14-6    82   20
Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8,
Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.

We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.


RPI beat us.  So did UMass.  So did Brown.  Should those teams be ahead of us?
Yes. And UAH beat Denver at Denver. So obviously they should be at 12!

...and I'm My Own Grandpa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AvG6q_iTcA)
Title: Re: Final 2012 Poll
Post by: billhoward on April 10, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
Nothing wrong with a post-season poll. Starts to build interest for next year.