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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: scoop85 on December 13, 2011, 09:55:01 AM

Title: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: scoop85 on December 13, 2011, 09:55:01 AM
When I went to look at the Lowry article, I saw this (http://www.uscho.com/2011/12/13/boston-universitys-trivino-arrested-booted-permanently-from-team/) bit of news. What a shame and a waste.

Given his previous alcohol-related incident referenced in the story, it doesn't take a great leap to assume alcohol was likely involved here as well.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 13, 2011, 10:06:24 AM
Quote from: scoop85When I went to look at the Lowry article, I saw this (http://www.uscho.com/2011/12/13/boston-universitys-trivino-arrested-booted-permanently-from-team/) bit of news. What a shame and a waste.

Given his previous alcohol-related incident referenced in the story, it doesn't take a great leap to assume alcohol was likely involved here as well.
I have more sympathy with the female student.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Trotsky on December 13, 2011, 12:22:02 PM
The Comments on that story are creepy.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Rosey on December 13, 2011, 12:36:15 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThe Comments on that story are creepy.
Agreed. Due process before throwing someone in prison is critical, but due process before throwing a known troublemaker off the team after another set of witnessed allegations of antisocial (not to mention criminal) behavior?

Sorry, but there's no human right to play for a hockey team: Trivino did it entirely at the school's and coaching staff's pleasure which, by virtue of the attention his actions have drawn, he no longer has.

The comments at this link are a stunning illustration of why I hate tribalism: "my team, right or wrong."
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: css228 on December 13, 2011, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: TrotskyThe Comments on that story are creepy.
Agreed. Due process before throwing someone in prison is critical, but due process before throwing a known troublemaker off the team after another set of witnessed allegations of antisocial (not to mention criminal) behavior?

Sorry, but there's no human right to play for a hockey team: Trivino did it entirely at the school's and coaching staff's pleasure which, by virtue of the attention his actions have drawn, he no longer has.

The comments at this link are a stunning illustration of why I hate tribalism: "my team, right or wrong."
Agreed. The team could definitely argue that putting himself in a situation where these allegations are possible to begin with shows poor judgment and is unbecoming of a higher code of conduct expected of a student who represents his school in athletics. That said, the best argument they have is that Trivino has been in trouble before, and by putting himself in a position where we're talking about this, he probably violated any conditions that Parker set before previously allowing him to continue playing hockey.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: scoop85 on December 13, 2011, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85When I went to look at the Lowry article, I saw this (http://www.uscho.com/2011/12/13/boston-universitys-trivino-arrested-booted-permanently-from-team/) bit of news. What a shame and a waste.

Given his previous alcohol-related incident referenced in the story, it doesn't take a great leap to assume alcohol was likely involved here as well.
I have more sympathy with the female student.

I certainly wasn't expressing sympathy for him.  Sorry for any confusion. Certainly the alleged victim deserves all the sympathy.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Swampy on December 13, 2011, 10:37:42 PM
Quote from: css228
Quote from: Kyle Rose
Quote from: TrotskyThe Comments on that story are creepy.
Agreed. Due process before throwing someone in prison is critical, but due process before throwing a known troublemaker off the team after another set of witnessed allegations of antisocial (not to mention criminal) behavior?

Sorry, but there's no human right to play for a hockey team: Trivino did it entirely at the school's and coaching staff's pleasure which, by virtue of the attention his actions have drawn, he no longer has.

The comments at this link are a stunning illustration of why I hate tribalism: "my team, right or wrong."
Agreed. The team could definitely argue that putting himself in a situation where these allegations are possible to begin with shows poor judgment and is unbecoming of a higher code of conduct expected of a student who represents his school in athletics. That said, the best argument they have is that Trivino has been in trouble before, and by putting himself in a position where we're talking about this, he probably violated any conditions that Parker set before previously allowing him to continue playing hockey.

After recent events at Penn State and Syracuse, we're going to see much more "zero tolerance" for athletic misbehavior. Being on a team is not a right, and they haven't thrown him out of school yet. That may await the due process (remember Duke lacrosse). Standards for being on a varsity team can and should be higher.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: munchkin on December 14, 2011, 09:58:56 AM
The CHN article was extremely well written and can be found here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/12/13_trivinos_career_at_bu_finished.php).
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: RichH on December 14, 2011, 04:22:14 PM
Quote from: munchkinThe CHN article was extremely well written and can be found here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/12/13_trivinos_career_at_bu_finished.php).

Reading that article is a reminder of why I (and I have to assume, much of the hockey and Boston communities) have so much respect for Jack Parker.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 14, 2011, 05:16:39 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: munchkinThe CHN article was extremely well written and can be found here (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/12/13_trivinos_career_at_bu_finished.php).

Reading that article is a reminder of why I (and I have to assume, much of the hockey and Boston communities) have so much respect for Jack Parker.

And why it's sometimes more satisfying to continue to do what you do best, rather than jump to the next level for the money. I suspect he goes home each night happy with how he's doing things.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Greg M on December 16, 2011, 10:43:17 AM
And now Charlie Coyle has left BU due to academic reasons (purportedly, although there's a rumour it has something to do with Parker's handling of the Trivino situation) and has signed with the St. John's Seadogs. Big blow for BU.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: css228 on December 16, 2011, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: Greg MAnd now Charlie Coyle has left BU due to academic reasons (purportedly, although there's a rumour it has something to do with Parker's handling of the Trivino situation) and has signed with the St. John's Seadogs. Big blow for BU.
I'd like our odds if we get them in a rematch now.
Title: Re: BU's Trivino Arrested and Booted From Team
Post by: Swampy on December 16, 2011, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: Greg MAnd now Charlie Coyle has left BU due to academic reasons (purportedly, although there's a rumour it has something to do with Parker's handling of the Trivino situation) and has signed with the St. John's Seadogs. Big blow for BU.

And a blow to us if BU starts to drop in the RPI. Let's hope BU can do what Virginia did last year in lacrosse (short of winning the national title), and continue to perform at a high level after disrupting influences have left the team.