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Title: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on November 29, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Going to be close between Mathews and Schwieger. Schwieger being a senior and unanimous All-Ivy selection may have the edge.  Hopefully, they'll consider co-Player of the Year awards as they did last year.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/11/28/FB_1128110403.aspx
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 29, 2011, 12:44:58 PM
Quote from: Ken711Going to be close between Mathews and Schwieger. Schwieger being a senior and unanimous All-Ivy selection may have the edge.  Hopefully, they'll consider co-Player of the Year awards as they did last year.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/11/28/FB_1128110403.aspx
Reads to me like there are always two winners:  one for offense; one for defense.  Schweiger won the "offense" award last year.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on November 29, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Ken711Going to be close between Mathews and Schwieger. Schwieger being a senior and unanimous All-Ivy selection may have the edge.  Hopefully, they'll consider co-Player of the Year awards as they did last year.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/11/28/FB_1128110403.aspx
Reads to me like there are always two winners:  one for offense; one for defense.  Schweiger won the "offense" award last year.

There were co-offensive POY awards last year, Schwieger and Harvard running back Gino Gordon.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Al DeFlorio on November 29, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Ken711Going to be close between Mathews and Schwieger. Schwieger being a senior and unanimous All-Ivy selection may have the edge.  Hopefully, they'll consider co-Player of the Year awards as they did last year.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/11/28/FB_1128110403.aspx
Reads to me like there are always two winners:  one for offense; one for defense.  Schweiger won the "offense" award last year.

There were co-offensive POY awards last year, Schwieger and Harvard running back Gino Gordon.
Thanks.  Mathews deserves at least a share, given the numbers he's put up breaking Ivy single-game and season passng records.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: ugarte on November 29, 2011, 01:22:13 PM
Was there even a second credible running back to take votes away from Schweiger? If not, I wouldn't read to much into a voter making a preposterous choice at QB.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: billhoward on November 29, 2011, 02:10:42 PM
Still waiting for a late-season surge away from Cornell in the direction of Steele Stanwick. Or Barbara Stanwyck.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on November 29, 2011, 04:16:10 PM
Quote from: billhowardStill waiting for a late-season surge away from Cornell in the direction of Steele Stanwick. Or Barbara Stanwyck.

Bill you lost me on this one?
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: ugarte on November 29, 2011, 04:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: billhowardStill waiting for a late-season surge away from Cornell in the direction of Steele Stanwick. Or Barbara Stanwyck.

Bill you lost me on this one?
The parallel is Steele Stanwick taking POY away from Rob Pannell on the strength of the UVA national title.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on November 29, 2011, 05:51:11 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: billhowardStill waiting for a late-season surge away from Cornell in the direction of Steele Stanwick. Or Barbara Stanwyck.

Bill you lost me on this one?
The parallel is Steele Stanwick taking POY away from Rob Pannell on the strength of the UVA national title.[/quote

I see, thanks.  It's honor to be nominated for Mathews and what he meant to the team's improvement.  Again, I believe his best chance (given the underclassman bias that the voting seems to take) is to share the POY award with the senior Schweiger.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Josh '99 on November 30, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: billhowardStill waiting for a late-season surge away from Cornell in the direction of Steele Stanwick. Or Barbara Stanwyck.

Bill you lost me on this one?
The parallel is Steele Stanwick taking POY away from Rob Pannell on the strength of the UVA national title.
... which, of course, makes it not even remotely a parallel, since there were no playoffs for Schwieger to make a late surge and Dartmouth didn't win any title.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ben on December 05, 2011, 05:56:15 PM
All hail Jeff Mathews. (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/12/5/FB_1205112717.aspx) Congratulations, it was well deserved.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: RichH on December 05, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: BenAll hail Jeff Mathews. (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/12/5/FB_1205112717.aspx) Congratulations, it was well deserved.

"Cornell's three previous Bushnell Cup Award winners are Ed Marinaro, who was a two-time winner (1970, 71), Derrick Harmon (1983) and Chad Levitt (1996)."
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on December 05, 2011, 06:35:46 PM
Great to have a Cornell winner as a sophomore!  Now we have 2 more years to continue to build a championship program around Mathews to bring Cornell an Ivy football championship.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 06, 2011, 08:24:21 AM
Quote from: Ken711Great to have a Cornell winner as a sophomore!  Now we have 2 more years to continue to build a championship program around Mathews to bring Cornell an Ivy football championship.

And find some defense.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ken711 on December 06, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Ken711Great to have a Cornell winner as a sophomore!  Now we have 2 more years to continue to build a championship program around Mathews to bring Cornell an Ivy football championship.

Can't argue with you there.  Be nice to see some more size on the DL.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Ben on December 06, 2011, 06:11:09 PM
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: Ken711Great to have a Cornell winner as a sophomore!  Now we have 2 more years to continue to build a championship program around Mathews to bring Cornell an Ivy football championship.

Can't argue with you there.  Be nice to see some more size on the DL.
Our O-Line needs work as well. I can't count how many times Mathews was rushed or forced out of the pocket on key downs this year.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: billhoward on December 13, 2011, 01:14:20 AM
See this week's Sports Illustrated about a high school state champion football team playing Hmung immigrants who are about 5 feet tall.
Title: Re: Mathews named nominee for Bushnell POY award
Post by: Trotsky on December 14, 2011, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: billhowardSee this week's Sports Illustrated about a high school state champion football team playing Hmung immigrants who are about 5 feet tall.
They do look short...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PXd3uh_kLjg/TZQ8qY2DcRI/AAAAAAAAAGk/-c0jUqjbadA/s1600/gran-torino.jpg)