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Title: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Cornell95 on September 18, 2011, 12:28:32 PM
I gather that SU has accepted an invitation to join the ACC
Implications abound in several sports, our interest is most tightly bound to lacrosse

Good or bad for Syracuse lacrosse
Good for our strength of schedule assuming non-conf games don't dry up?
Can the ACC handle an increase in ugly uniforms?
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: ugarte on September 18, 2011, 09:27:49 PM
Holy crap. I was so wrapped up in what a kick in the teeth this would be for Big East basketball I didn't even think about what this would mean for lax. I wonder if the ACC will try to pull in a sixth program to get a tournament and an AQ. Not that they need it.
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Swampy on September 18, 2011, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: ugarteHoly crap. I was so wrapped up in what a kick in the teeth this would be for Big East basketball I didn't even think about what this would mean for lax. I wonder if the ACC will try to pull in a sixth program to get a tournament and an AQ. Not that they need it.

Rumor has it that Rutgers and UConn (http://hamptonroads.com/2011/09/report-acc-accept-pitt-syracuse-uconn-rutgers-radar) are the next to leave the BE sinking ship. So Rutgers would bring the number up to six, and UConn is a natural to add DI lax (they already have a club  team that plays in the MCLA).

The wild card, I think, is Texas, which in turn is tied to Oklahoma. The latter seems to be leaning to the Pac 12, in which case Texas goes there too. Texas apparently was talking to the ACC, but this afternoon's New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/sports/ncaafootball/19pac12.html) reports that's over. Were UT to go to the ACC, that could squeeze out one of the two BE schools.

I really love how the Times article says, "There are worries over the size of the league, the academic reputation of Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma," as if this consolidation has to do with anything but money. I mean are average SAT scores at the likes of Oregon State, Washington State, or Utah significantly different from those of the three aforementioned schools?
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Swampy on September 18, 2011, 11:22:00 PM
Another story on Syracuse going to the ACC in Laxpower (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26029). There's a bit of pretentiousness in some of the statements by SU officials.

One is the statement from SU's Chancellor and President, Nancy Cantor, who said, "We are pleased that Syracuse adds a New York City dimension to the ACC." It's a safe bet her appointment is not in the Geography Department.

Another is athletics director Daryl Gross' statement, "As 'New York's College Team,' we plan to compete at the highest level across all of our sports and help to enhance this great conference."
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Weder on September 18, 2011, 11:39:03 PM
Quote from: SwampyAnother story on Syracuse going to the ACC in Laxpower (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26029). There's a bit of pretentiousness in some of the statements by SU officials.

One is the statement from SU's Chancellor and President, Nancy Cantor, who said, "We are pleased that Syracuse adds a New York City dimension to the ACC." It's a safe bet her appointment is not in the Geography Department.

Another is athletics director Daryl Gross' statement, "As 'New York's College Team,' we plan to compete at the highest level across all of our sports and help to enhance this great conference."

There are plenty of Syracuse alums in the NYC area, so that's the point the chancellor is making. All of this conference hopping is a chase for TV dollars, and the ACC is interested in Syracuse because of the potential audience in New York, not Central New York.

And that "New York's College Team" nonsense is a marketing line that Syracuse has been using for a few years now.
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: billhoward on September 19, 2011, 07:36:20 AM
Swampy, when you mix the Will Rogers warm-and-funny pills with the Don Rickles mean-and-funny pills, the outcome is awesome. You made my day. Wouldn't it be nice if the Times (sorry, The Times) could be this concise rather than head off to navel-gazing phrases such as " ... and raises troubling questions about the nature of college sports in an academic environment ... "

>>> I really love how the Times article says, "There are worries over the size of the league, the academic reputation of Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma," as if this consolidation has to do with anything but money.

>>> One is the statement from SU's Chancellor and President, Nancy Cantor, who said, "We are pleased that Syracuse adds a New York City dimension to the ACC." It's a safe bet her appointment is not in the Geography Department.

Beeej's post on The Shame of College Sports, a likely candidate for the 2011 National Magazine Award in the Typing category, ties in nicely: http://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,170206
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Jim Hyla on September 19, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
Quote from: Weder
Quote from: SwampyAnother story on Syracuse going to the ACC in Laxpower (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26029). There's a bit of pretentiousness in some of the statements by SU officials.

One is the statement from SU's Chancellor and President, Nancy Cantor, who said, "We are pleased that Syracuse adds a New York City dimension to the ACC." It's a safe bet her appointment is not in the Geography Department.

Another is athletics director Daryl Gross' statement, "As 'New York's College Team,' we plan to compete at the highest level across all of our sports and help to enhance this great conference."

There are plenty of Syracuse alums in the NYC area, so that's the point the chancellor is making. All of this conference hopping is a chase for TV dollars, and the ACC is interested in Syracuse because of the potential audience in New York, not Central New York.

And that "New York's College Team" nonsense is a marketing line that Syracuse has been using for a few years now.
And they have been promoting themselves in NYC. If I remember correctly, the follow-up game to SU @ USC this past Sat, is USC vs SU @ NYC.
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: ithacat on September 19, 2011, 11:47:47 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Weder
Quote from: SwampyAnother story on Syracuse going to the ACC in Laxpower (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26029). There's a bit of pretentiousness in some of the statements by SU officials.

One is the statement from SU's Chancellor and President, Nancy Cantor, who said, "We are pleased that Syracuse adds a New York City dimension to the ACC." It's a safe bet her appointment is not in the Geography Department.

Another is athletics director Daryl Gross' statement, "As 'New York's College Team,' we plan to compete at the highest level across all of our sports and help to enhance this great conference."

There are plenty of Syracuse alums in the NYC area, so that's the point the chancellor is making. All of this conference hopping is a chase for TV dollars, and the ACC is interested in Syracuse because of the potential audience in New York, not Central New York.

And that "New York's College Team" nonsense is a marketing line that Syracuse has been using for a few years now.
And they have been promoting themselves in NYC. If I remember correctly, the follow-up game to SU @ USC this past Sat, is USC vs SU @ NYC.

Future games at MetLife:
2012 -- Southern Cal
2013 -- Penn State
2014 -- Notre Dame
2016 -- Notre Dame
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on September 20, 2011, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: ugarteI wonder if the ACC will try to pull in a sixth program to get a tournament and an AQ. Not that they need it.

How many teams do you need to get the auto bid to the men's D1 Lax tournament?  4?
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Al DeFlorio on September 20, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04
Quote from: ugarteI wonder if the ACC will try to pull in a sixth program to get a tournament and an AQ. Not that they need it.

How many teams do you need to get the auto bid to the men's D1 Lax tournament?  4?
Six.
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: TimV on September 21, 2011, 10:40:12 AM
It definitely makes SU's schedule even tougher than it usually is.  They lose Big East cupcakes Providence, St John's and Rutgers  and replaces them with Duke, Maryland, and UNC (they already play UVA.)  AND adds a chance to play two of these again in the ACC tournament.

I like your observation about strength of schedule - it can only help us- even if we lose the head-to-head game.  I can't explain it but it's always worked for Hopkins.::wtf::
Title: Re: Syracuse to the ACC
Post by: Ben Rocky '04 on September 21, 2011, 11:32:39 AM
::smashfreak::  #facepalm