Princeton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html
All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva
Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.
[edit add] When April rolls in maybe we should break this into a second thread
Quote from: billhowardPrinceton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html
All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva
Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.
What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardPrinceton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html
All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva
Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.
What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.
I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury. When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program. Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: SwampyQuote from: billhowardPrinceton is losing more than just (no-longer-eligible) seniors in lacrosse. Mike Chanenchuk, Ivy rookie of the year in 2010 and injured this year (and not in school since last fall), plans to transfer. Maybe to Maryland if it's not already a done deal. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/lacrosse/blog/2011/06/princeton_coach_confirms_chane.html
All-America attackman Jack McBride graduated this year but has a year of eligibility left (medical redshirt) and is shopping for someplace to play while in grad school. Lax people in NJ say Princeton sports doesn't have pull with its grad schools the way it does with Princeton undergrad, so McBride looked elsewhere. http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva
Princeton still has a decent nucleus coming back: 2011 Ivy ROTY Tom Schreiber, the league's best goalie in rising senior Tyler Fiorito, and 3-time all-Ivy defender Chad Wiedmaier.
What does the Ivy League say about medical redshirts? One would think the "Any Study" part of Cornell's motto would fit McBride's academic aspirations, and while grad-school admissions can be more selective, he did get into Princeton.
I didn't think you could play in the Ivy League once you received your undergraduate degree, even if you missed a season with injury. When Bruce Cohen missed a season back in the 60s, in order to use his additional year of eligibility he had to continue in the five-year engineering program rather than take his degree in the newly-announced four year program. Seems to me there were recent examples of players from Dartmouth and (I think) Yale playing as grad students elsewhere, and even one of Cornell's kids (Christian Pastirik, a senior in 2009) playing as a grad student at Towson after missing his freshman and junior years at Cornell with injury.
I also saw somewhere that McBride's father is a MD. I didn't think of this, but med school is one of the "any studies" that still wouldn't work for post-grad lax players (or any sport) or, for that matter, for undergraduate Doogie Howsers to be.
The Lacrosse Magazine link above (http://laxmagazine.com/blogs/author/dasilva/05.13.2011_at_5.13_p.m._by_Matt_DaSilva) talks about the ACC becoming a "haven for Ivy League lacrosse players with extra eligibility." You have to give the ACC credit, it knows how to game the system.
"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/06/10/christian-swezeys-2012-top-20-way-ahead-rankings
Quote from: Al DeFlorio"Way-ahead 2012 rankings" from Inside Lacrosse's Christian Swezey: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/06/10/christian-swezeys-2012-top-20-way-ahead-rankings
In distantly related news, IL also previews the New York State High School championship (http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/06/10/high-school-scout-new-york-state-championship-finals-preview)s. Although we appear to have a strong incoming class of recruits, a search of the preview page -- in which college commitments follow players' names in parentheses -- for "Cornell" just turns Firefox's search box red (ironic?).
While we might rationalize kids from IHS, playing for the Class A title, wanting to go to college away from Ithaca, it's hard to explain why no New York State player playing this weekend is planning to come to Cornell next year. With regents scholarships and several state-contracted schools, one would think we have an advantage recruiting in-state over, say, Harvard (2 players). I realize teams, not individual players, make the championships, so maybe NY State talent is elsewhere. Still, it's surprising that none of the in-state high-school players playing this weekend are planning to be on the hill next fall.
It's worse than that. I think Harvard has three or four players (two defensemen, a goaltender and a midfielder) that will be in the Under Armour All-American Game. Penn has at least one.Garden City must be a helluva good academic school with very influential guidance counsellors.
Connor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=25753&page=1). He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.
Quote from: SwampyConnor Buczek selected to U.S. Men's U19 team (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=25753&page=1). He's the only Cornell recruit on the list. Harvard has 3 (one a current frosh), as does Virginia. No other Ivy players named.
Harvard is having a field day recruiting the "name" guys, but it hasn't fully paid off on the field. Similar to their recent hoops recruiting prowess; you wonder when (if) it will translate into at least an Ivy championship.
It hasn't helped them in the past. In the late 90's they had three Empire State Game stars, also from Garden City, I believe- two Bevilaqua brothers and John (?) Ferrucci. Result: zero championships, perhaps one NCAA tournament appearance - one and done, just like hockey. Of course, those were the years when Princeton was racking up national championships, so we weren't winning any either.
Class of 2015 listed. (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2011/7/13/MLAX_0713111735.aspx)
Anybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.
Quote from: BenAnybody else find it odd that we'll have four goalies next year? Seems like a squad spot that could have gone to another midfielder.
Maybe they're good students regardless? I'd say we're also denying them to other schools, but word probably gets around when a coach overrecruits & stockpiles. So perhaps it just randomness ... coaches thought they'd get 2 of the 4 and they did better than expected?
I have trouble reading from the profiles and coach comments who's the next Max Seibald and who's going to be running third midfield, but it's great that almost school and its fans can feel good about their upcoming team.
And if we're being honest, goal is probably the weakest area on the team. Nothing wrong with recruiting a freshman to push the upperclassmen.
Wouldn't be surprised to see at least one of them convert to a D or LSM
According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.
Quote from: scoop85According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.
They've been "exercised" enough. They
do, however, need to be exorcised.;-)
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: scoop85According to Inside Lacrosse, we play UVA again in the kick-off classic. Early chance to exercise the demons.
They've been "exercised" enough. They do, however, need to be exorcised.;-)
Hey, it's summer - waddya expect :-}
All other things being equal I'd rather exorcise those demons in the end-of-season classic.
Perhaps if the exercise like demons they will play like demons. Red nasty demons with sticks that are hot from friction caused by their shots.
Speaking of exorcising demons, Laxpower reports (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=25872) that two Syracuse "student" athletes have been arrested for
Quote from: laxpowerthird-degree criminal mischief, attempted petit larceny, fifth-degree conspiracy and reckless endangerment of property.
Fifth-degree conspiracy sounds Masonic.
Quote from: SwampySpeaking of exorcising demons, Laxpower reports (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=25872) that two Syracuse "student" athletes have been arrested for Quote from: laxpowerthird-degree criminal mischief, attempted petit larceny, fifth-degree conspiracy and reckless endangerment of property.
Sounds like a case of 1st degree drunk.
From today's Ithaca Journal:
Quote from: Brandon ThomasIthaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...
Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.
But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.
Quote from: profudgeFrom today's Ithaca Journal:
Quote from: Brandon ThomasIthaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...
Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.
But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.
Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: profudgeFrom today's Ithaca Journal:
Quote from: Brandon ThomasIthaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...
Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.
But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.
Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.
Who's to say for certain that he qualified academically to come to Cornell?
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: profudgeFrom today's Ithaca Journal:
Quote from: Brandon ThomasIthaca High's Paolo Ciferri commits to play lacrosse at Syracuse. ...
Ciferri, a midfielder, committed earlier this month to play for Syracuse under coach John Desko after he graduates from Ithaca in the spring.
. . .
Ciferri's mother, Lyn Reitenbach, ranks sixth all-time in assists in the Cornell women's program's history and later served as the coach of the Ithaca High girls team. Ciferri also has two uncles -- Bruce and Keith Reitenbach -- who played on East Hill.
But he ended up following a different family member for his college lacrosse. Paolo's older sister, Marley Ciferri, has completed two seasons as an attack for the Orange women's team.
Bummer, lately we're having difficulty getting Ithaca kids; even though they have CU connections.
Who's to say for certain that he qualified academically to come to Cornell?
He is a legacy who can play lax for Syracuse. QED.
A 2013 goalie recruit: http://laxlessons.com/2011/08/21/salisburys-nesbitt-will-be-making-his-stops-at-cornell/
Not the best of showings at the Colleluori Classic (http://www.insidelacrosse.com/node/52029), but I went back and checked...we didn't do all that well last year either (and Coach DeLuca wasn't particularly pleased with Cornell's showing).
Quote from: BenNot the best of showings at the Colleluori Classic (http://www.insidelacrosse.com/node/52029), but I went back and checked...we didn't do all that well last year either (and Coach DeLuca wasn't particularly pleased with Cornell's showing).
One has to go with what Coach DeLuca says, but the Cornell 2012 forum on Laxpower (http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&start=160) has more details. Many of the contributors are former Cornell laxmen, so the posts are very knowledgeable.
2012 Schedule Announcement (http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/10/18/MLAX_1018111722.aspx) and Schedule (http://www.cornellbigred.com/schedule.aspx?path=mlax&).
Nothing particularly exciting, all of the same opponents as last year, except there's no Stony Brook, which means only 6 non-conference games. Does anyone know if this is due to a change in Ivy rules?
Inside Lacrosse "checks-in" with the Big Red in an article posted today: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/10/26/fallball-2011-cornell-big-red-check
Lengthy injury list apparently a factor in fall practices and scrimmages.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioInside Lacrosse "checks-in" with the Big Red in an article posted today: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/10/26/fallball-2011-cornell-big-red-check
Lengthy injury list apparently a factor in fall practices and scrimmages.
Good news at least that none of the injured seems in jeopardy of missing time this spring. Also interesting that Buczek seems slated for the midfield. The battle in goal should be interesting.
Rather thoughtful preview of the 2012 Ivy League season by 'gotigers' on this laxpower thread. Scroll down a bit.
http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44691&sid=3c1fdd1b2ef8a0ffe79b67e048e87e1c&view=unread#unread
Laxpower reports that we'll be playing Denver at Hofstra on March 20. (http://www.laxpower.com/laxnews/news.php?story=26274)
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/11/14/tickets-go-sale-november-15-2012-konica-minolta-face-classic-and-konica-minolta-big
Faceoff classic tickets are now on sale
Is Cornell going to sell tickets too or?
Inside Lacrosse names Pannell, Lang, and Noble pre-season first-team All-Americans (although the genii at cornellbigred.com think Lang is second team::whistle::), and give Bronzino honorable mention.
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/12/06/2012-face-yearbook-division-i-preseason-all-americans
Quote from: Al DeFlorioInside Lacrosse names Pannell, Lang, and Noble pre-season first-team All-Americans (although the genii at cornellbigred.com think Lang is second team::whistle::), and give Bronzino honorable mention.
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/12/06/2012-face-yearbook-division-i-preseason-all-americans
cornellbigred.com article now fixed...with a little prodding.:-}
It's been long-rumored, but now confirmed (http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/12/29/breaking-former-virginia-attackman-connor-english-confirms-he-will-head-cornell) that Connor English, who left Virginia after last season, is transferring to Cornell.
http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/12/29/breaking-former-virginia-attackman-connor-english-confirms-he-will-head-cornell
Quote from: flyersgolfhttp://insidelacrosse.com/news/2011/12/29/breaking-former-virginia-attackman-connor-english-confirms-he-will-head-cornell
What, my link wasn't good enough? :-P
Does lax have a transfer waiting period or can he play immediately?
If UVa releases him, he is eligible immediately. The Inside Lax article seems to indicate he is eligible.
Anybody know why he left UVa?
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Anybody know why he left UVa?
Not sure, but I'd guess playing time. English was the #7 ranked recruit coming out of secondary school and played little at UVa, with even less time as a sophomore than as a freshman. Why the lack of playing time I can't answer. Maybe his high school skills didn't transfer to the college game. Maybe a wrong style for Starsia's offensive concept. Maybe he didn't get along with Starsia. Don't really know. His pointed comments about De Luca in the IL article are clear, however.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Anybody know why he left UVa?
Too many warm sunny days?
Quote from: TimVQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Anybody know why he left UVa?
Too many warm sunny days?
Maybe, after seeing his chances shrink at UVa, he just looked at what Dave and Eric Pittard did after transferring from UVa to Cornell and felt he'd get a similar opportunity.
Dave Pittard transferred from Navy, not UVA. In addition, the Pittard family is from upstate NY so Cornell was a logical alternative for two players who found themselves less than completely satisfied with their chosen college.
I'd love to see him bring some defensemen with him.
Pannell wins IJ's Van Sickle Award (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20111229/SPORTS03/112290366/Van-Sickle-Award-Cornell-s-Pannell-at-the-top-of-his-game?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE) as male athlete of the year.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: TimVQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Anybody know why he left UVa?
Too many warm sunny days?
Maybe, after seeing his chances shrink at UVa, he just looked at what Dave and Eric Pittard did after transferring from UVa to Cornell and felt he'd get a similar opportunity.
Wow, completely had forgotten that Pittard was a transfer from UVA, thanks for the reminder.
The Long Island Lizzards took Rob Pannell first overall in the MLL draft today. The Rochester Rattlers took Roy Lang 11th overall. Other Ivy Leaguers taken are Princeton's Chad Wiedmaier (7th, Hamilton Nationals), Princeton's Fiorto (10th, Chesapeak Bayhawks), and Harvard's Kevin Vaugh (14th, Denver Outlaws).
Great news fo Pannell and Lang. I don't really know anything about the MLL though (I got all this from the Ivy League Atheletic's Twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/Ivy_Athletics ), does this mean that Pannell and Lang won't be playing for Cornell this spring or will they finish out their collegiate careers before going pro? I would hate to lose Panell and Lang for their senior season.
Quote from: jtn27The Long Island Lizzards took Rob Pannell first overall in the MLL draft today. The Rochester Rattlers took Roy Lang 11th overall. Other Ivy Leaguers taken are Princeton's Chad Wiedmaier (7th, Hamilton Nationals), Princeton's Fiorto (10th, Chesapeak Bayhawks), and Harvard's Kevin Vaugh (14th, Denver Outlaws).
Great news fo Pannell and Lang. I don't really know anything about the MLL though (I got all this from the Ivy League Atheletic's Twitter page: https://twitter.com/#!/Ivy_Athletics ), does this mean that Pannell and Lang won't be playing for Cornell this spring or will they finish out their collegiate careers before going pro? I would hate to lose Panell and Lang for their senior season.
Don't worry, Pannell and Lang will both be suiting up in the spring. In other Cornell Lacrosse related news, Pannell will get to play again with Max Seibald, who was traded to Long Island earlier this evening.
Full list of players taken in the draft. (http://www.majorleaguelacrosse.com/press-release/4365/2012-mll-collegiate-draft-results/) Two other Cornellians were taken, both in the sixth round: Chris Langton (42nd overall by Ohio) and J. J. Gilbane (48th overall by Boston).
Lacrosse Season Outlook by CornellBigRed. (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2012/2/1/MLAX_0201123127.aspx)
semsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
Quote from: Al DeFloriosemsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
There's some info over on the Cornell forum at Laxpower. We seem to have dominated, even without Pannell and some other top players. Over at the JHU forum they're blaming the Blue Jay's performance on the cold & snow -- Wooses :`-(
Quote from: Al DeFloriosemsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.
Quote from: semsoxQuote from: Al DeFloriosemsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.
Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.
Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: semsoxQuote from: Al DeFloriosemsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.
Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.
Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.
Al, I think VRR posted on Laxpower that he would not be at the scrimmage, so unfortunately we won't get his insights.
Quote from: scoop85Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: semsoxQuote from: Al DeFloriosemsox reported a 10-3 Cornell halftime lead in the Hopkins scrimmage this afternoon. Another report said Rob Pannell is not playing. Sure would like to see a scrimmage report here on eLynah.
Wish I had more to report, but my own information was just second hand from Twitter and other places one might find little tidbits. I too am anxiously awaiting any more details from the scrimmage. Additionally, I am pumped for this season. Feels like it's as good a chance to hoist the hardware at the end of the season as we will have for awhile.
Right. All the stuff on laxpower is second-hand. I'm hoping VeryRustyRed was at the scrimmage and will post his reactions on that laxpower thread.
Putting up a ten-spot at halftime against Quint's #2 defense in the country--while playing without the reigning player of the year--is, shall we say, encouraging.
Al, I think VRR posted on Laxpower that he would not be at the scrimmage, so unfortunately we won't get his insights.
I think I do remember that. Guess we should keep an eye on the Cornell and Hop threads on laxpower. Last year Inside Lacrosse had "notes" on the scrimmage. Just keep googling, I guess.
At last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&view=unread#unread
Quote from: Al DeFlorioAt last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&view=unread#unread
Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned (http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=4a93fa944bc9bb2e4d0be04297017c76&start=440#p933669). My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: Al DeFlorioAt last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&view=unread#unread
Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned (http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=4a93fa944bc9bb2e4d0be04297017c76&start=440#p933669). My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.
Pretty sure Ewing Theory doesn't apply here. Pannell is far too good.
Dan Freshman's notes on the scrimmage here on Inside Lacrosse: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2012/02/13/notes-analysis-cornell-johns-hopkins-scrimmage
Quote from: BenQuote from: Josh '99Quote from: Al DeFlorioAt last, a first-hand report on the Hopkins scrimmage--albeit it first-half only: http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&view=unread#unread
Here's a direct link to the post Al mentioned (http://network.laxpower.com/laxforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43964&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=4a93fa944bc9bb2e4d0be04297017c76&start=440#p933669). My favorite part about the discussion (after all the nice things said about our lacrosse team, of course) is all the different names people mentioned for what I thought was universally known as the Ewing Theory.
Pretty sure Ewing Theory doesn't apply here. Pannell is far too good.
And may now be known as the Anthony-Stoudemire Hypothesis.
BU to add Division I lacrosse: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2012/02/13/sources-boston-university-announce-addition-di-mens-lacrosse
Red Hot Lacrosse in Giants Stadium?::crazy::
Quote from: Al DeFlorioBU to add Division I lacrosse: http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2012/02/13/sources-boston-university-announce-addition-di-mens-lacrosse
Red Hot Lacrosse in Giants Stadium?::crazy::
They can play their games at their football stadi-oooohhhhh.
http://magazine.insidelacrosse.com/
Pannell and Stanwick on cover...
Slightly OT, but while waiting for the Hobart game, you might be interested in this interesting interview (http://www.laxlessons.com/2011/01/31/britton-becomes-dariens-latest-cornell-commit-2/) with a 2012 recruit about himself, Andrew West, and Andrew's younger brother Henry, who's also coming to the hill.
Notre Dame beats Duke (and its #1 midfield, according to Quint) 7-3.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNotre Dame beats Duke (and its #1 midfield, according to Quint) 7-3.
As much as I want to gloat, and I do want to gloat, the Irish have won this early season game three years in a row now. It didn't hurt Duke the last two years.
I think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?
>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.
Quote from: billhowardI think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?
>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.
I don't think this event or their email about it has any more to do with lacrosse than your post about them does.
Quote from: billhowardI think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?
>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.
The relation is that M&T Bank Stadium wants more money.
Quote from: billhowardI think by virtue of having bought lax tickets for a Cornell NCAA game or the Faceoff Classic, this comes from M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. Anybody else get this? Anybody understand how it relates to lacrosse? "The fastest destructive sport on 8-foot wheels"?
>>> The Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam, Path of Destruction M&T Bank Stadium Saturday, June 2, 2012 at 7:00 P.M
Welcome to Monster Jam, an incredible family-friendly experience starring the biggest performers on four wheels: Monster Jam monster trucks. These twelve-feet-tall, ten-thousand-pound machines will bring you to your feet, racing and ripping up a custom-designed track full of obstacles to soar over - OR smash through. Monster Jam provides a massive night's entertainment tailored perfectly for your family's budget, and these colorful, larger-than-life beasts are sure to capture the hearts of both young and old. Plus this summer, the biggest Monster Jam superstars will unleash big air and car-crushing carnage when they hit Baltimore's M&T Bank Stadium on June 2nd with the Advance Auto Parts Monster Jam Path of Destruction tour.
Only communists don't enjoy monster trucks.
FWIW I got one, too.
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82FWIW I got one, too.
How do you like your monster truck Jeff? Is it really twelve feet tall? Have you achieved car-crushing carnage yet?
Quote from: KenPQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82FWIW I got one, too.
How do you like your monster truck Jeff? Is it really twelve feet tall? Have you achieved car-crushing carnage yet?
My monster truck is 'Murican as apple pie.
Michigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-lacrosse-gets-first-win-russell-is-u-ms-first-4-time-big-ten-wrestling-champ-and-more-sunda/
Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/oosterbaan-field-house.html Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall
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In the USILA poll for 3/5/12, Cornell vaults from seventh to third, behind Virginia and Johns Hopkins. Inside Lacrosse (sorry, Nike Inside Lacrosse) still third with one first-place vote and five Ivy League schools in the top 20.
USILA http://www.usila.org/polls.html
Divison I - Week 3
March 5, 2012
Rank Team Record Points Previous Week
1 Virginia 5-0 180(9) 1
2 Johns Hopkins 4-0 168 2
3 Cornell 2-0 154 7
4 Maryland 3-0 151 5
5 UMass 4-0 149 6
6 Syracuse 2-1 138 3
7 Notre Dame 2-1 117 9
8 North Carolina 4-1 102 4
9 Loyola 3-0 100 11
10 Penn State 3-1 98 13
11 Duke 3-2 85 10
12 Villanova 3-1 79 8
13 Denver 3-1 73 14
14 Princeton 2-1 63 12
15 Yale 2-0 62 16
16 Lehigh 4-1 54 nr
17 Fairfield 4-0 38 20
18 Delaware 3-3 24 nr
19 Hofstra 2-2 11 nr
20 Ohio State 3-2 9 17
Also receiving votes: Harvard, Drexel, Dartmouth, Colgate, Army
Inside Lacrosse http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2012-02-20
Rank Team Points 1st Place Votes
1 UVA University of Virginia 437 20
2 JHU Johns Hopkins University 408 1
3 CORNELL Cornell University 392 1
4 ND University of Notre Dame 363
5 UNC University of North Carolina 360
6 SYRACUSE Syracuse University 327
7 MARYLAND University of Maryland 301
8 DUKE Duke University 280
9 VILLANOVA Villanova University 258
10 UMASS University of Massachusetts 228
11 DENVER University of Denver 209
12 OSU Ohio State University 192
13 HOFSTRA Hofstra University 140
14 PRINCETON Princeton University 139
15 HARVARD Harvard University 110
16 LOYOLA Loyola University 87
17 PENN University of Pennsylvania 84
18 YALE Yale University 70
19 COLGATE Colgate University 60
20 PSU Penn State University 57
Also Receiving Votes
Drexel University , University of Delaware , Bucknell University , Fairfield University , Georgetown University , Siena College , Army , University of Hartford , Robert Morris University , Navy ,
Not sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNot sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.
The pro-Southern lax bias starts around the Delaware River.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: Al DeFlorioNot sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.
The pro-Southern lax bias starts around the Delaware River.
But it usually seems to work only if you're east of it, i.e. Princeton. ::innocent::
Quote from: billhowardMichigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-lacrosse-gets-first-win-russell-is-u-ms-first-4-time-big-ten-wrestling-champ-and-more-sunda/
Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/oosterbaan-field-house.html Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall
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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: billhowardMichigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-lacrosse-gets-first-win-russell-is-u-ms-first-4-time-big-ten-wrestling-champ-and-more-sunda/
Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/oosterbaan-field-house.html Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall
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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.
And the field should go from treeline to treeline, the sticks should be wooden with pockets such that you can actually knock the ball free. But I don't think any of those things will happen either.:-}
Quote from: billhowardMichigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-lacrosse-gets-first-win-russell-is-u-ms-first-4-time-big-ten-wrestling-champ-and-more-sunda/
Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/oosterbaan-field-house.html Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall
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Actually, its purpose is revealed by its own name. Bennie Oosterbaan was Michigan's football coach in the 40s and 50s, and was All-American in both football and basketball at Michigan.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNot sure why Penn should be in the top 20 given record to date.
There's a ton of discrepancy between those two polls; turns out it's because the Inside Lacrosse poll Bill posted is from February 20th. Here's the current Nike/IL poll (http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2012-03-05), in which we're still 3rd but don't have any first-place votes (and which for some reason has 20 voters when the 2/20 poll had 22 and the 2/27 poll had 24).
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TowerroadQuote from: billhowardMichigan gets its first win in first varsity lacrosse season, 14-4 over Mercer, in Florida. Now 1-5. http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-lacrosse-gets-first-win-russell-is-u-ms-first-4-time-big-ten-wrestling-champ-and-more-sunda/
Michigan is playing its home games indoors at Oosgterbaan Field House, a 40-year-old building with FieldTurf added and seating for 800 and now this year 1000 students. http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/oosterbaan-field-house.html Its real purpose is explained by the name of the adjacent building: Schembechler Hall
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This is so not right. Lacrosse should be played outdoors in almost any weather if the weather dictates a postponement so be it, that is the way the Lacrosse gods meant the game to be played. There should be a rule, even if we need to grandfather Syracuse and their wussy dome.
And the field should go from treeline to treeline, the sticks should be wooden with pockets such that you can actually knock the ball free. But I don't think any of those things will happen either.:-}
I am not a complete Luddite. I have no problem with the modern sticks although I learned with a wooden one nor do I mind the current field size. But for me Lacrosse has been a harbinger of spring. It starts cold and nasty and with luck ends in the sunshine of Memorial Day. I feel the same way about baseball. You need to be a little tough to play spring sports in the North but you need to be tough to play Lacrosse. If you want to play inside take up basket ball or box lacrosse.
Word is, Pannell out until mid-April (http://insidelacrosse.com/news/2012/03/06/cornells-rob-pannell-miss-six-weeks-recovering-broken-bone-foot) at the earliest and barring a miracle. ::bang::
Well, he'll be back in time for the tournament, so we can qual... nevermind. (I'm not worried about qualifying for NCAAs, even without him. Seeding aside, should I be?)
I'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
Final score: Cornell 19 - Canisius 4
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Final score: Cornell 19 - Canisius 4
"Looks like we don't need Rob Pannell after all. Ewing Theory, right!?" - an idiot
Quote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
ARRRGH.
Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
ARRRGH.
Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.
I was wondering that too but figured there must be some Ivy League rule against it, which would mean if it happened, he would finish his career at another school. Am I mistaken? I didn't have any information that said that specifically, just assumed because of all the other crazy Ivy League restrictions.
Brian Delany of ESPN Radio's local Ithaca station on Rob Pannell (from Twitter here (https://twitter.com/#!/BDelaney_1160/status/177152244574203904) and here (https://twitter.com/#!/BDelaney_1160/status/177173802982182912)):
Quote from: Brian DelanyIf you missed it, Inside Lacrosse reported today Pannell had surgery to repair a broken foot suffered v. Army.
Quote from: Brian DelanyBen DeLuca says he cant go into specifics re: Pannell but wont rule out a season ending injury. "Could be."
Doesn't sound good.
Quote from: Ronald '09Quote from: RichHQuote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
ARRRGH.
Let's say he's not 100% by late-April. What are the odds that he could get a medical redshirt for this season? Yale's Jeff Hamilton played 2 hockey games in 2000 and was granted one.
I was wondering that too but figured there must be some Ivy League rule against it, which would mean if it happened, he would finish his career at another school. Am I mistaken? I didn't have any information that said that specifically, just assumed because of all the other crazy Ivy League restrictions.
You can get a medical redshirt in the Ivy League. However, IIRC, the Ivy League prohibits grad students from playing, so if he were granted a medical redshirt, he'd have to take the semester off, and not graduate after first semester next year.
A lot of nonsense being posted about Pannell's status and it's just time to knock off the speculation. One post asks, "what if he is out for the season", and then it takes off from there. Can he redshirt? Where will he play next year? and so on and so forth.... Over on the UVA Sabre message board they are already saying that two Pannell's will be playing at UVA next year. I for one will just wait for six weeks and hope we can navigate our way through Virginia (very tough), Yale, Denver, Penn, Dartmouth and Harvard and with Syracuse up next, hope and pray he is okay by then.
Yikes! Penn 10, UNC 6. Sacred Heart 13, Yale 12. UMBC 8, Maryland 7.
Wow, incredibly bad news...
Quote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
Beyond healing the injury itself, there's the issue of conditioning. I doubt he can run or even use his leg for much while it's healing. So leg strength, muscle tone, and aerobic fitness may suffer. (But he probably can lift weights on a Nautilus.) I hope the trainers have some gimmicks to keep him in shape, otherwise you're talking 2-3 weeks more to get back into game shape.
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
Beyond healing the injury itself, there's the issue of conditioning. I doubt he can run or even use his leg for much while it's healing. So leg strength, muscle tone, and aerobic fitness may suffer. (But he probably can lift weights on a Nautilus.) I hope the trainers have some gimmicks to keep him in shape, otherwise you're talking 2-3 weeks more to get back into game shape.
Rob has given us more that we have any right to expect. My only hope is that he heals, and goes on to a full life hopefully playing Lacrosse. If that involves more Big Red Lax that would be great but it is just a bonus.
Quote from: TowerroadQuote from: SwampyQuote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
Beyond healing the injury itself, there's the issue of conditioning. I doubt he can run or even use his leg for much while it's healing. So leg strength, muscle tone, and aerobic fitness may suffer. (But he probably can lift weights on a Nautilus.) I hope the trainers have some gimmicks to keep him in shape, otherwise you're talking 2-3 weeks more to get back into game shape.
Rob has given us more that we have any right to expect. My only hope is that he heals, and goes on to a full life hopefully playing Lacrosse. If that involves more Big Red Lax that would be great but it is just a bonus.
That's not
my only hope. Mine involves a national championship, and I don't know why yours shouldn't if you're a fan of a team that just lost the best player in the country.
Quote from: BearLoverQuote from: TowerroadQuote from: SwampyQuote from: semsoxI'm more worried this injury will keep him out longer than 6 weeks, and possibly the season. If that's a possibility, I have to imagine Rob has lots of scenarios going through his head right now, most of them not the best.
Beyond healing the injury itself, there's the issue of conditioning. I doubt he can run or even use his leg for much while it's healing. So leg strength, muscle tone, and aerobic fitness may suffer. (But he probably can lift weights on a Nautilus.) I hope the trainers have some gimmicks to keep him in shape, otherwise you're talking 2-3 weeks more to get back into game shape.
Rob has given us more that we have any right to expect. My only hope is that he heals, and goes on to a full life hopefully playing Lacrosse. If that involves more Big Red Lax that would be great but it is just a bonus.
That's not my only hope. Mine involves a national championship, and I don't know why yours shouldn't if you're a fan of a team that just lost the best player in the country.
I sat in the stands at Gillette Stadium and believe me I share your desire. My point is that we may or may not have Pannell available and I would not want him to risk permanent injury just to satisfy my desires for a championship even though I am sure he wants it worse that either of us.
FYI, today's game on ESPNU at 1:30.
Quote from: Jordan 04FYI, today's game on ESPNU at 1:30.
And apparently on ESPN3 streaming.
I find this out after I drive to the bar where I wont have sound
I'm sure Rob must love watching the whole game with an ESPN camera in his face. ::rolleyes::
Quote from: Jordan 04I'm sure Rob must love watching the whole game with an ESPN camera in his face. ::rolleyes::
That was essentially it. I watched the 4th Quarter in a bar after the Hartford St. Pat's parade that randomly had ESPNU on. I'm sure I scared some people around me, but after joining in on a 7-4 score, I thought our goaltender played marvelously and English is Real. Every goal was followed by a Pannell reaction shot, but it was still a great effort by everyone. We had our chances to win in regulation & OT. Great team.
It is hard to be disappointed with yesterdays result. I think the offense is trying to make adjustments with out Pannell but is not there yet. They will get there and be the stronger for it. This is a great team!
Totally agree. Winning yesterday would have been great. But by going down to the wire with the #1 team and having a chance to win in OT, they made a statement that they're as good as anyone. Now, add to the mix someone who is arguably the #1 player and where does that put them? Let's just hope that Rob's recovery is quick, complete, and done wisely.
This. Although I would've preferred the win, some part of me hopes that Virginia might be flummoxed sometime down the road by an offensively brilliant, Pannell-ful Cornell with which they will have had no experience.
Tough to beat a team twice; even tougher to beat a team twice that is significantly different from the first time you played them.
The OT loss to Virginia drops Cornell from #3 to #4 in the USILA poill.
http://www.usila.org/polls.html
1. Virginia
2. Hopkins
3. UMass
4. Cornell
5. Loyola
Inside Lacrosse poll keeps Cornell #3
http://insidelacrosse.com/rankpoll/d1media/2012-03-12
1. Virginia
2. Hopkins
3. Cornell
4. UMass
5. Syracuse
Wouldn't mind seeing UMass win it all so long as it's not at Cornell's expense.
Laxpower shows Cornell-Denver game to be broadcast on FiOS1 Tuesday at 4.
cornell leading Yale 8-7 with 2:00 to play, attempts to stall, and again loses the ball. Stall doesn't work for Cornell.
Cornell escapes with an 8-7 after being down by 2 in the second quarter. Closer than it should have been. The offense without Rob Pannell didn't like cohesive and it didn't look as good as it did in last week's one-goal loss to Virginia.
At the half here in Hempstead: Cornell 3, Denver 2. Both defenses looking good, West with some good saves as well.
Quote from: kingpin248At the half here in Hempstead: Cornell 3, Denver 2. Both defenses looking good, West with some good saves as well.
Follow the game here (http://www.denverpioneers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18600&ATCLID=205400235). (Why doesn't CU have something like this?)
You can almost always find something similar at Lawpower website (http://www.laxpower.com). Click on the LAGR -- live action game report -- link at the top of the forums page and someone is likely to be reporting on games in progress.
And without much partisan commentary....
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: kingpin248At the half here in Hempstead: Cornell 3, Denver 2. Both defenses looking good, West with some good saves as well.
Follow the game here (http://www.denverpioneers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18600&ATCLID=205400235). (Why doesn't CU have something like this?)
3:25 left, tied at 7. Denver will have the ball when they come out of a time out. Cornell keeps taking the lead, Denver keeps tying it up.
Denver takes the lead just under 3 and wins the faceoff.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Cornell commits a penalty. 30 second Denver EMO with 1:32 left. Killed... Denver TO, 58 seconds left... Cornell ball, TO, 22 seconds left... GOAL! MOCK with 6 seconds left in regulation!
All tied up in Hempstead. OT forthcoming.
Langdon with the game winner at 2:55. Whew.
Cornell wins it
Two close wins following the close Virginia loss. This team is a stress test.
Quote from: ugarteLangdon with the game winner at 2:55. Whew.
Most exciting livestats animation I've ever had to watch at the office.
Gotta love sticking it to Tierney like that.
Huge game from the middies.
Wow, talk about a roller-coaster last 10 posts! :)
Glad we got the win!
I just got home from the game, and it looks like all of the above posts were people staring at livestats, so I'll post my thoughts on the actual game. We had a small but pretty spirited Cornell section in the crowd. There was an even smaller Denver section, which was probably almost exclusively families of players. Our section seemed to be a combination of players' families and regular fans.
West was our best player today. He made a ton of huge saves throughout the game. I think he's not as good as AJ was last year in the clearing game, but his current play in making the saves is a significant upgrade from AJ, at least how he was last year. That's a tough decision to demote a junior goalie who has started every game the last two seasons, but it seems to be the right decision.
I'm starting to get really worried about faceoffs. The first few games, Doug was practically automatic, and that carried until around midway through the second quarter of the Virginia game. Since then, he's barely won any, and McMichael never wins them. Off the top of my head, I think McMichael was only used on one today. At least putting Noble in on the faceoff, when he doesn't win, he usually can use the long stick to fight long enough to prevent a rush right on the unsettled. And he won the most important faceoff of the day. I think Keith and Lang did a great job on the wings on the faceoffs fighting for some loose balls.
Speaking of Lang, I wish he would be used more offensively. I guess he's so valuable defensively, DeLuca doesn't want to tire him out. I would hope that as the season progresses, he will be used more in key situations offensively. I especially think he would be useful dodging and sniping against teams that play the zone like Virginia. That was how he opened the scoring in this game.
We need more from the attack. Almost all of our offense came through the middies today, and that is to be expected with Rob out, but not to this extent. I thought Donovan showed some abilities to create offense himself from behind the net early in the year and that's been absent the law few games. I'm not sure if that has to do with the fact we're facing better opponents or that Rob is out, probably a little of both. He has a ton of talent and hopefully that will come as the season progresses.
Langton, Van Bourgondien, and Gilbane all looked really good, and they powered the offense for what was overall a great win. The above are my nitpicks, but overall I was very happy with a gutty win over a very good team. This team certainly doesn't quit. One final thought is, I wish we could make some use of Sten Jernudd. Looking at him on the sideline towering over everyone else just makes me think there must be some way that size could contribute on the field.
On to Philly.
Quote from: Ronald '09West was our best player today. He made a ton of huge saves throughout the game. I think he's not as good as AJ was last year in the clearing game, but his current play in making the saves is a significant upgrade from AJ, at least how he was last year. That's a tough decision to demote a junior goalie who has started every game the last two seasons, but it seems to be the right decision.
Having only seen less than a half so far (end of the UVA game), that's a good report. Frankly, I want our keepers to make saves first, and worry about the clearing game later. The way this defense is set up, it's pretty essential that we have a good fundamental keeper back there. If it's West, great. If Fiore can contribute to that effort, wonderful. Just get someone back there making saves.
QuoteI'm starting to get really worried about faceoffs. The first few games, Doug was practically automatic, and that carried until around midway through the second quarter of the Virginia game. Since then, he's barely won any, and McMichael never wins them. Off the top of my head, I think McMichael was only used on one today. At least putting Noble in on the faceoff, when he doesn't win, he usually can use the long stick to fight long enough to prevent a rush right on the unsettled. And he won the most important faceoff of the day. I think Keith and Lang did a great job on the wings on the faceoffs fighting for some loose balls.
Looking at the box score, Doug T. was 1-7! After emerging in the NCAAs last year, I thought that was an area we wouldn't have to worry about, and now we do. Yikes. McMichael was 0-1, so you were spot on. Stevens was also 0-1, but Noble, so important was 5-10. Thinking blindly, I'm not surprised a Tierny player is excelling at the X, but their guy is the do-everything Chase Carraro, so it's not like they have a FO specialist. He was 13-19. You're going to see skilled guys like that late in the year.
QuoteWe need more from the attack. Almost all of our offense came through the middies today, and that is to be expected with Rob out, but not to this extent.
I just have this feeling that this is what DeLuca's gameplan was. Against UVA, we seemed to rely heavily on the play of Mock and English...maybe DeLuca understands that in order for this team to gel, he needed to challenge the middies to step up. The score was in control, so why not work them? When it came to "must get a goal," he drew up the play, or told Mock that he was the guy, But I'm very encouraged by the contributions from the middies today.
I'll tell you, with 0:20 left, I kept thinking of the plays drawn up for Seibald and Pannell to win in recent years...don't know what that tying goal looked like, but that's some clutch play from Mock, I imagine. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's more encouragement.
QuoteThis team certainly doesn't quit.
Ding! I'm filling out my sports cliche Bingo card as we speak! ::burnout:: Otherwise, great report! Thanks.
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Why is this man smiling? Steve Mock, playing in front of family and friends on Long Island, has broken a nearly-two-game scoring drought with the game-tying goal with :06 left, then fed Chris Langton for the winner 65 seconds into OT for the 9-8 victory over Denver.
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Andrew West was awesome in goal for Cornell with 12 saves vs. 8 GA. (Denver had 8 saves vs. 9GA.) He and Andy Iles have been working together on this trick save, above.
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West does not take goals-against calmly, however. This one tied the game at 6.
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Denver goes up 8-7 with 2:30 to play, controls the faceoff, tries to stall, Cornell red-dogs (does the coaching manual say the odds really favor not going to the net with the goalie out?) and gets the ball back. Roy Lang legs it upfield, Cornell calls time out with half a minute to play. Steve Mock here ties the game with :06 left. If there was a time for Mock to step up and fill Rob Pannell's shoes, this was the time.
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Denver had Cornell's number on faceoffs: 13 of 19 including 6x7 against Doug Tesoriero. Jason Noble fared better, 5x10. Cute move here by Denver's Chase Carraro to start overtime with a between the legs backwards shovel ... except Cornell's wingman controlled and the ball ultimately wound up in Noble's stick.
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Overtime: After Cornell gets the ball into the attacking box and calls the obligatory timeout, Max Van Bourgondien (3 goals) takes the ball behind, feeds Mock (#6), who is about to feed Langton (#1).
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Chris Langton undrapes himself from the Denver defense for the winning shot.
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Langton celebrates. That's three straight one-goal games: 9-8 OT loss to Virginia, 8-7 win over Yale, 9-8 OT over the Pioneers.
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Matt Donovan leaps to join the celebration and Cornell parties ...
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... parties like it's 1971 at Hofstra and Cornell is celebrating a win in the first-ever NCAA championship.
With only a few exceptions (Virginia, 2011 NCAA quarterfinals), Hofstra Stadium has been a friendly place for Cornell lacrosse. I hope Richie Moran was there for this one, too. (So many players are wearing sweats not because it was cold but because some had a premonition how weird the Bill Bradley-style tight shorts would look four decades later.)
Beautiful day for lacrosse. Decent turnout by Cornell fans and parents. Let's hope the offense is coming together. A Syracuse or Princeton or Penn is going to take us down if we don't get more punch from the attack. IIRC correctly Mock's game-tyer was the only goal by the attack unit, which got off 5 of Cornell's 17 SOG. Let's hope Rob Pannell heals in time for the playoffs.
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Great pix, as always Bill, and thanks, as always:-}. You're everywhere, you're everywhere,...
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Great pix, as always Bill, and thanks, as always:-}. You're everywhere, you're everywhere,...
No Cornell pix this weekend, alas. I was hoping for a daily double: Photograph Cornell hockey at Bridgeport and our son's Ultimate team in a tournament at Yale. The seeding gods declared otherwise. Maybe in a future year the NCAA will seed with an eye toward which teams have the most fervent supporters "good of the game"], which would include Cornell in the East and Wisconsin in the Midwest brackets. I'm still in awe of bus after bus after bus of Badger fans arriving at Boston Garden for the NCAA semifinals and, when they lost then but beat Denver (?) in the consolation (long time ago), the fans stood and chanted for the last half of the third period, "Best in the West." Twenty freakin' hours on a bus. (Before Alfred Kahn deregulated air travel costs.)
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Great pix, as always Bill, and thanks, as always:-}. You're everywhere, you're everywhere,...
No Cornell pix this weekend, alas. I was hoping for a daily double: Photograph Cornell hockey at Bridgeport and our son's Ultimate team in a tournament at Yale. The seeding gods declared otherwise. Maybe in a future year the NCAA will seed with an eye toward which teams have the most fervent supporters "good of the game"], which would include Cornell in the East and Wisconsin in the Midwest brackets. I'm still in awe of bus after bus after bus of Badger fans arriving at Boston Garden for the NCAA semifinals and, when they lost then but beat Denver (?) in the consolation (long time ago), the fans stood and chanted for the last half of the third period, "Best in the West." Twenty freakin' hours on a bus. (Before Alfred Kahn deregulated air travel costs.)
Great pix, thanks Bill.
Stupid hockey east refs at MSG cost you a shot at this daily double!
Quote from: Ronald '09West was our best player today. He made a ton of huge saves throughout the game. I think he's not as good as AJ was last year in the clearing game, but his current play in making the saves is a significant upgrade from AJ, at least how he was last year. That's a tough decision to demote a junior goalie who has started every game the last two seasons, but it seems to be the right decision.
Among the various talents I'd want from a goalie, clearing is third priority. First is stopping shots, but second is directing the defense. From what I could make out from the various reports and stats, both goalies played exceptional games stopping the ball. But I wouldn't be surprised if Denver's goalie -- Ryan LaPlante, a freshman getting his first start -- didn't give us some advantage by his inexperience directing Denver's defense.
QuoteSpeaking of Lang, I wish he would be used more offensively. I guess he's so valuable defensively, DeLuca doesn't want to tire him out. I would hope that as the season progresses, he will be used more in key situations offensively. I especially think he would be useful dodging and sniping against teams that play the zone like Virginia. That was how he opened the scoring in this game.
I haven't been able to make it a game yet this year, but I hear Lang is playing SSDM. One way to get him involved in the offense would be occasionally to refrain from substituting an offensive middie and let Lang join the offense zone, just like in the old days of two-way midfielders. This would have to be a situational and a coach's call based on match-ups. There's always a danger of him running out of gas with this strategy.
I also saw that Denver was called for being offside towards the end of the game. I wonder if Tierney was trying to pull something like this (hold back a middie and let a defender cross over) and it backfired. Since you were at the game, what do you think?
Awesome highlight video (among many!) of the Denver game provided by a Cornell Fan over on laxpower. The videos are up to 720p, and there's highlight videos from most of the biggest games over the past year or so. Highly, highly recommended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m16FoQlsQRg
There was a 3-4 videocamera team capturing the game for ... not sure, but not RedCast. A bunch of Cornell fans had Canon or Nikon DSLRs with 300mm lenses. Maybe some of the Cornell / Cornell sports / Cornell lax alumni in the business might have some insights on how to make for a better RedCast.
Cornell comes from as much as 5 points down to beat Penn today, 16-11. GO RED!!! ::banana::
Got home, checked the livestats on today's game against Penn. We started the game down 7-2 after 2:15 into the second period. We battled back, but a Penn goal 12:02 into the 3rd period made the score 11-8 and that's how the period ended. In the fourth quarter, Cornell outscored Penn 8-0 and ended up with a comfortable 16-11 win.
EDIT: Damnit, Swampy!
Quote from: SwampyCornell comes from as much as 5 points down to beat Penn today, 16-11. GO RED!!! ::banana::
Nice balanced offense. 3 attackmen with hat tricks,
Just got home from the game. One of the more "interesting" games I've ever seen.
Penn simply packed 5 guys around the goalie in a zone D. Our guys never really had a clear shot at the net and had to be incredibly patient. Combined with the wet slippery field we had real offensive problems. OTOH Penn didn't try for extended possessions. All they did was shoot. And we couldn't stop anything they put on net. Frankly I expected West to be replaced at halftime.
As I understand it, deLuca ripped them a new one during a timeout midway through the second. At that point we finally found something of a scoring touch. But we couldn't stop Penn because we couldn't win a faceoff to save our lives. Even so we got it within 2 at the half.
The third quarter went back and forth, in part due to really crappy officiating, but also due to some sloppy play on our part. Penn still ended up outscoring us in the quarter.
In the 4th quarter they put Noble in on faceoffs. And that changed everything. I think he only lost 1. We also scored a few goals on the breakout. This was critical because we didn't let their defense set up and block in the goalie. Actually we probably could have scored another couple goals but once we had a lead we played a little more of a possession game and pulled up when we could have shot.
All in all, a win is a win, but I hope they guys learned that there are no easy games and you have to show up and play.