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Title: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: billhoward on April 08, 2011, 01:20:18 PM
Cornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse - Atlanta Viewing Party
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Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 08, 2011, 03:56:09 PM
Quote from: billhowardCornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.

While you're right we didn't do well in the 2nd half at Army, as I recall both Mock and Lau did not play.  I don't think the first half would have been as close, or their goalie would have looked as good with both of them playing.

I was hoping to get up to Boston for the game, but I won't be able to now.  Looks like I'll have to settle for TV.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 08, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhowardCornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.

While you're right we didn't do well in the 2nd half at Army, as I recall both Mock and Lau did not play.
Perhps even more importantly, Max Feely didn't play in the Army game, either.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 08, 2011, 04:27:32 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhowardCornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.

While you're right we didn't do well in the 2nd half at Army, as I recall both Mock and Lau did not play.
Perhps even more importantly, Max Feely didn't play in the Army game, either.

Good point.  I forgot that.  And of course, the "smoke filled room" probably won't consider any of it during seedings.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: semsox on April 08, 2011, 11:34:54 PM
A loss would be very unexpected and a large step back for this year's program.  Also, friendly reminder, tomorrow's game will be on CBS College Sports at 2 PM.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Josh '99 on April 09, 2011, 03:24:31 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhowardCornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.

While you're right we didn't do well in the 2nd half at Army, as I recall both Mock and Lau did not play.
Perhps even more importantly, Max Feely didn't play in the Army game, either.

Good point.  I forgot that.  And of course, the "smoke filled room" probably won't consider any of it during seedings.
In fairness to smoke-filled rooms (which I don't often defend), they're infinitely more likely to consider it than PWR would be.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Al DeFlorio on April 09, 2011, 06:46:13 AM
Quote from: semsoxA loss would be very unexpected and a large step back for this year's program.  Also, friendly reminder, tomorrow's game will be on CBS College Sports at 2 PM.
Perhaps, but Harvard is 5-0 at home with wins over Georgetown and UMass.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Ken711 on April 09, 2011, 04:17:55 PM
Cornell wins in a close game 13-12.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: semsox on April 09, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
Monster game from Lau to make up for Pannell being locked up all game.  Nice comeback win.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Ben on April 09, 2011, 04:27:50 PM
A bit surprised Fiore got benched after the ninth Harvard goal, but West did a solid job filling in. Lau was great, he made up for the atrocious commentary.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: kingpin248 on April 09, 2011, 04:33:34 PM
LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League tournament to Ithaca.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League tournament to Ithaca.
Correct!
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 09, 2011, 06:48:01 PM
Quote from: BenA bit surprised Fiore got benched after the ninth Harvard goal, but West did a solid job filling in. Lau was great, he made up for the atrocious commentary.
I looked at as just like changing goalies to shake up the team, not as bad performance by Fiore. If they print the press conference we'll find out, or Monday's IJ.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: scoop85 on April 09, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
We were uncharacteristically poor on ground balls, although we held our own on faceoffs. Pannell really looked to be pressing, but Lau played a phenomenal game.  Great and gutsy move to replace Fiore when he and the team were struggling.  West did a solid job, and the team responded around him.  One real problem seems to be with our the ssdm's; Harvard had their way with them.  

Can't forget to mention the great game by Max Feely, not the least of which was his great interception of the pass to help preserve the lead.  Harvard must be beside themselves with a third straight 13-12 loss to Cornell.  Harvard has some great talent, and we were fortunate to escape with the W.

Real gut-check type of victory, with a great test coming up in the Dome on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: billhoward on April 09, 2011, 10:50:47 PM
And based on Princeton's narrow loss, 7-5, to Syracuse, our final game, against the Tigers, is no sure win either. Unless the Syracuse game was an off day for the Orange, Princeton appears to finally have its act together.

What a great play by Feely to effectively end the game. We could have used an interception like that Memorial Day 2009.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Ben on April 10, 2011, 12:12:16 AM
Quote from: billhowardAnd based on Princeton's narrow loss, 7-5, to Syracuse, our final game, against the Tigers, is no sure win either. Unless the Syracuse game was an off day for the Orange, Princeton appears to finally have its act together.
Hopefully that off-day will carry over through Tuesday.

I was hoping to get to the Carrier Dome to see us face Syracuse, but Cornell Abroad foiled those plans. Anybody traveling up for the game?
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Weder on April 10, 2011, 02:07:30 AM
De Luca says he felt Fiore was in a "funk."
http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20110409/SPORTS03/104090345/Cornell-clinches-share-ninth-straight-Ivy-lacrosse-championship
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: billhoward on April 10, 2011, 07:58:39 AM
Quote from: WederDe Luca says he felt Fiore was in a "funk."
http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20110409/SPORTS03/104090345/Cornell-clinches-share-ninth-straight-Ivy-lacrosse-championship
Journal story sounds if if the Crimson could flip a switch and turn off Pannell's scoring abilities. This in the Sun, we'd be making fun of the odd choice of words in the lede graf.

>>> CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - Harvard opted to shut off Rob Pannell for long stretches of Saturday's Ivy League men's lacrosse game, essentially forcing Cornell's other players to beat the Crimson.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 10, 2011, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: WederDe Luca says he felt Fiore was in a "funk."
http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20110409/SPORTS03/104090345/Cornell-clinches-share-ninth-straight-Ivy-lacrosse-championship
Journal story sounds if if the Crimson could flip a switch and turn off Pannell's scoring abilities. This in the Sun, we'd be making fun of the odd choice of words in the lede graf.

>>> CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - Harvard opted to shut off Rob Pannell for long stretches of Saturday's Ivy League men's lacrosse game, essentially forcing Cornell's other players to beat the Crimson.
I think the point is you can shut down any one person with a covering defense, but then you open up other players. That happens all the time in sports.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Chris '03 on April 11, 2011, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Chris '03 on April 11, 2011, 08:53:27 AM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhowardCornell lacrosse plays at Harvard this week. Please let this not be the weekend of the unexpected mid-season slump vs. a team Cornell should beat. Cornell should win out the rest of the RS, give or take Syracuse. We were hurt by soft performances in the second half vs. Army, a game we should have won, and vs. Virginia, a team we might have beaten. Other than that, we'd be 9-0. Still, a very impressive season so far. Nice that the game's on CBS College Sports. 2:10 pm faceoff.

While you're right we didn't do well in the 2nd half at Army, as I recall both Mock and Lau did not play.
Perhps even more importantly, Max Feely didn't play in the Army game, either.

Good point.  I forgot that.  And of course, the "smoke filled room" probably won't consider any of it during seedings.
In fairness to smoke-filled rooms (which I don't often defend), they're infinitely more likely to consider it than PWR would be.

But only if the team being considered comes from south of the Mason-Dixon line or wears orange.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: ugarte on April 11, 2011, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.
I thought that's how I remembered it but I didn't want to ask.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 11, 2011, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.

I think kingpin248 had it right.  The regular season winner gets to host the Ivy Tournament, but the tournament winner gets the NCAA autobid.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Chris '03 on April 11, 2011, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.

I think kingpin248 had it right.  The regular season winner gets to host the Ivy Tournament, but the tournament winner gets the NCAA autobid.

The round robin determines the Ivy League Championship. The tournament determines the NCAA bid. If Cornell goes 6-0, it is the Ivy Champ, alone, regardless of the outcome of the tournament.  We're both "right". I was just underscoring the fact that the tourney has nothing to do with the championship.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 11, 2011, 03:45:34 PM
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.

I think kingpin248 had it right.  The regular season winner gets to host the Ivy Tournament, but the tournament winner gets the NCAA autobid.

Gotcha.

The round robin determines the Ivy League Championship. The tournament determines the NCAA bid. If Cornell goes 6-0, it is the Ivy Champ, alone, regardless of the outcome of the tournament.  We're both "right". I was just underscoring the fact that the tourney has nothing to do with the championship.
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Swampy on April 11, 2011, 03:55:41 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Chris '03
Quote from: kingpin248LaxPower reports Brown 13, Penn 12 and Yale 9, Dartmouth 7 (both final). I believe Cornell has thus clinched a share of the regular season Ivy title, and need only win one of the remaining two league games to bring the Ivy League NCAA bid tournament to Ithaca.

FYP.

I think kingpin248 had it right.  The regular season winner gets to host the Ivy Tournament, but the tournament winner gets the NCAA autobid.

I heard that if Cornell wins tomorrow night, it gets an autobid. ::innocent::
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: Josh '99 on April 12, 2011, 12:02:13 AM
Lau named Ivy League Player of the Week (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2011/4/11/MLAX_0411113855.aspx)
Title: Re: Cornell-Harvard lacrosse
Post by: TimV on April 12, 2011, 09:44:41 AM
You' re right.  But without the Ivy Tournament Championship, it would be called an " At-Large Bid."::banana::