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Title: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
cornell whiffs on a 2-1 and a couple more hacks early.. there is noone in the bldg, perhaps 1-200 people.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:06:22 PM
and now the B2 stream is gone..
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
cornell has missed on 3 different rushes early 1 on 1 with the goalie.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:13:22 PM
10 to go and kennedy misses on a wrap around and nichols cant put the rebound home with a couple wacks..
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:16:50 PM
zollecek ? scores off a bouncing puck on the PP.. Cornell had the puck for the clear misplayed it , it then bounced around and the brown player swung at it and i went towards the net where iles seemed surprised and let it by..

sloppy goal.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:22:22 PM
another PP coming for brown.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:24:23 PM
brown with a long head man pass clears the D for a breakwat and Andy step ups for the save as the player deeked too much
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
brown with a good cycle and a nice shot from about 10 ft out that Iles stops. since the 2nd PP brown has played much better.  a game that CU could easily been up 2-3 goals early, now CU lucky to not be down 2-0.. cornell lots of puck control but no shots, brown played well the last 5 minutes.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:49:05 PM
cornell goes on the PP 3 min in
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
cornell playing so sloppy.. 3 guys with the puck and they drop it near the net and noone gets it almost letting brown steal it for a goal..
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 07:52:58 PM
as the PP ends cornell creates a chance and gets stoned down low again by Clemente
Title: Cornell 0, Brown 2, second period
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
Cornell needs to step it up
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:01:11 PM
Brown scores on a bouncing puck play by Zollecek?  cleared the D jumped over a check.. Isles look to make the save and seemed to kick it in trying to find the puck?

cornell in trouble losing to a team that hasnt brought the puck into the zone with numbers all game.. everything off mishandled pucks or deflected/bouncing pucks.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:02:20 PM
cornell now on PP.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:05:08 PM
cornell with no good chances during the PP.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:12:30 PM
brown with huge shift never let the D off the ice and cornell lucky to get a save..  announcer complaining about several non calls..
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:18:24 PM
much like the first.. cornell controlled the period for all but about 2 shifts and brown almost scored on both of the those..

replay shows iles kicked the puck in on the 2nd goal or it was laying on his leg.. The D misplayed the puck and then missed the check.

shots 23-20 brown..
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:35:53 PM
brown playing back and cornell not finishing when any speed.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
the announcer is complaining so much about missed call on cornell.. apparently cornell has paid off the refs
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:44:07 PM
clemente with a big save on a partial break by jillson backhand attempt. the pucks are being left on the doorstep and cornell yet to be there.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
kennedy with a nice move skates in and clemente stands tall.. then cornell draws a penalty after and extended nice shift.  about 10 to go.
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:48:33 PM
announcer wants a 5 min penalty on zolneirchuck ? and gets it now a 5-3 for 1:45
Title: Cornell 0, Brown 2, second period
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 08:48:40 PM
5 on 3 for Cornell, with 5 minute major on Brown
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
cornell controls the faceoff throws it around and gets no shot thru.. brown clears and cornell gets it back down for a faceoff.. brown dives and clears. cu still not real good shots
Title: Re: cornell brown no score early
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
finally scores 3:31 left on the PP.. roesler i think after a pass down low is deflected
Title: Re: Cornell 1, Brown 2, third period
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 08:51:34 PM
Cornell 1, Brown 2

Major penalty on Brown continues
Title: Re: cornell 1 - brown 2 nine to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:52:31 PM
cornell wins draw and misplays puck again and its cleared
Title: Re: cornell 1 - brown 2 nine to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
cornell with awful backhand sloppy crossing pass turns into abreak away shot high.. 1:40 to go on PP.. just so sloppy
Title: Re: cornell 1 - brown 2 nine to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:53:59 PM
cornell scores from Collins.  still time on PP..
Title: Re: Cornell 2, Brown 2, third period
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 08:54:30 PM
Another PP goal.

Still major penalty continues for 1.5 min.
Title: Re: cornell 1 - brown 2 nine to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:56:18 PM
penalty expireds but brown loses stick and cornell with several chances.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 2 5 to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 08:58:35 PM
this announcer is amazing..  still complaining about the major that he at the time says he deserved it.. now it shouldnt have been..
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 2 5 to go
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 09:00:41 PM
brown shows some life cornell breaks out 3 on 2 and misses open net rebound with 1 to go
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 2 OT
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 09:04:36 PM
announcers says its a real nice crowd, there cant be 40-50 people behind the brown bench?
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 09:06:48 PM
brown wins..

shot from way outside iles makes toe save and the puck sits for ever and finally gets swept in.

bad loss considering brown played well for all of 5 shifts in the game..
Title: Re: Cornell 2, Brown 3, OT, Final
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 09:07:33 PM
Disappointing loss.  On to New Haven.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ithacat on February 25, 2011, 09:22:35 PM
Heartbreaking loss...swept by Brown.::thud::

When was the last time Cornell went a full season without getting a shutout?
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Beeeej on February 25, 2011, 09:25:06 PM
Thanks for the active and detailed game thread, Mike, but seriously - it's ILES.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2011, 09:25:50 PM
Quote from: ithacatHeartbreaking loss...swept by Brown.::thud::

When was the last time Cornell went a full season without getting a shutout?
94-95.  As in, the last year before Schafer.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Trotsky on February 25, 2011, 09:33:20 PM
The prior 3 seasons before Schafer we didn't get a shut out.  Since then, 62 shutouts in 16 seasons, including 12 in ECAC playoff games.

A crosstab of GA by Season:


season Total 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 18 24
1901 3 2 1
1903 2 1 1
1907 2 2
1908 4 4
1909 7 1 2 1 1 1 1
1910 7 4 1 2
1911 10 2 4 3 1
1912 8 1 1 3 1 2
1913 7 2 2 1 1 1
1914 5 1 1 2 1
1915 3 1 1 1
1916 3 1 1 1
1921 5 2 1 1 1
1922 5 2 2 1
1923 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1924 4 1 1 1 1
1925 5 1 1 1 1 1
1926 6 1 2 1 1 1
1927 7 1 3 1 1 1
1928 5 1 2 1 1
1929 5 1 2 1 1
1930 6 1 2 1 1 1
1931 5 2 2 1
1934 2 1 1
1935 4 1 1 1 1
1936 4 1 2 1
1937 2 1 1
1938 4 2 1 1
1939 6 1 1 1 2 1
1940 11 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1
1941 7 1 1 1 2 1 1
1942 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1943 4 1 1 1 1
1944 4 1 1 1 1
1945 3 1 1 1
1946 4 1 2 1
1947 4 1 1 1 1
1948 4 1 2 1
1958 11 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 1
1959 21 1 5 1 1 1 1 2 1 4 1 1 1 1
1960 21 3 2 1 1 5 2 1 2 2 2
1961 19 3 1 3 3 4 4 1
1962 18 5 3 2 1 3 3 1
1963 19 2 4 1 3 3 1 1 3 1
1964 23 3 4 2 7 3 1 1 2
1965 26 3 4 5 6 4 1 1 1 1
1966 27 5 8 8 1 1 2 2
1967 29 4 10 10 4 1
1968 29 6 11 8 2 1 1
1969 29 4 8 8 6 3
1970 29 3 11 6 5 2 2
1971 27 3 5 8 6 3 2
1972 29 2 3 8 7 5 2 2
1973 29 1 5 6 8 4 2 1 1 1
1974 27 3 3 4 7 4 2 3 1
1975 28 2 4 4 7 3 5 2 1
1976 29 3 2 5 2 3 1 5 4 1 3
1977 29 1 3 3 2 5 5 3 3 2 1 1
1978 27 1 3 4 7 2 5 2 1 2
1979 29 2 3 2 5 6 5 2 3 1
1980 31 4 3 3 5 6 4 1 4 1
1981 31 2 5 3 8 3 4 1 3 2
1982 26 3 7 1 8 4 2 1
1983 26 1 4 1 6 5 3 3 1 2
1984 26 1 1 2 4 4 6 6 2
1985 30 1 8 6 7 4 1 1 1 1
1986 32 1 1 10 10 5 2 2 1
1987 27 1 3 3 5 2 5 4 2 1 1
1988 28 4 8 8 4 3 1
1989 30 1 1 10 5 8 1 3 1
1990 29 1 5 9 2 3 6 1 1 1
1991 32 2 4 4 8 7 2 1 2 1 1
1992 29 1 7 5 9 2 4 1
1993 26 3 8 5 3 3 1 3
1994 30 4 2 6 4 7 3 2 1 1
1995 30 3 9 2 5 4 3 3 1
1996 34 2 6 7 5 6 5 1 1 1
1997 35 1 8 8 8 4 2 2 2
1998 33 2 7 7 4 6 4 1 1 1
1999 31 1 5 7 7 4 3 2 2
2000 32 1 4 7 14 4 2
2001 33 2 10 11 4 3 2 1
2002 35 5 13 9 2 4 2
2003 36 9 11 12 3 1
2004 32 5 9 8 6 1 3
2005 35 10 9 13 2 1
2006 35 3 9 11 6 4 2
2007 31 3 6 8 6 3 4 1
2008 36 4 9 9 8 4 1 1
2009 36 7 11 8 2 4 2 1 1
2010 34 7 8 7 7 2 2 1
2011 27 7 8 5 4 2 1
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ugarte on February 25, 2011, 09:58:11 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThe prior 3 seasons before Schafer we didn't get a shut out.  Since then, 62 shutouts in 16 seasons, including 12 in ECAC playoff games.

A crosstab of GA by Season:


season Total 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 18 24
1901 3 2 1
1903 2 1 1
1907 2 2
1908 4 4
1909 7 1 2 1 1 1 1
1910 7 4 1 2
1911 10 2 4 3 1
1912 8 1 1 3 1 2
1913 7 2 2 1 1 1
1914 5 1 1 2 1
1915 3 1 1 1
1916 3 1 1 1
1921 5 2 1 1 1
1922 5 2 2 1
1923 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1924 4 1 1 1 1
1925 5 1 1 1 1 1
1926 6 1 2 1 1 1
1927 7 1 3 1 1 1
1928 5 1 2 1 1
1929 5 1 2 1 1
1930 6 1 2 1 1 1
1931 5 2 2 1
1934 2 1 1
1935 4 1 1 1 1
1936 4 1 2 1
1937 2 1 1
1938 4 2 1 1
1939 6 1 1 1 2 1
1940 11 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1
1941 7 1 1 1 2 1 1
1942 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1943 4 1 1 1 1
1944 4 1 1 1 1
1945 3 1 1 1
1946 4 1 2 1
1947 4 1 1 1 1
1948 4 1 2 1
1958 11 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 1
1959 21 1 5 1 1 1 1 2 1 4 1 1 1 1
1960 21 3 2 1 1 5 2 1 2 2 2
1961 19 3 1 3 3 4 4 1
1962 18 5 3 2 1 3 3 1
1963 19 2 4 1 3 3 1 1 3 1
1964 23 3 4 2 7 3 1 1 2
1965 26 3 4 5 6 4 1 1 1 1
1966 27 5 8 8 1 1 2 2
1967 29 4 10 10 4 1
1968 29 6 11 8 2 1 1
1969 29 4 8 8 6 3
1970 29 3 11 6 5 2 2
1971 27 3 5 8 6 3 2
1972 29 2 3 8 7 5 2 2
1973 29 1 5 6 8 4 2 1 1 1
1974 27 3 3 4 7 4 2 3 1
1975 28 2 4 4 7 3 5 2 1
1976 29 3 2 5 2 3 1 5 4 1 3
1977 29 1 3 3 2 5 5 3 3 2 1 1
1978 27 1 3 4 7 2 5 2 1 2
1979 29 2 3 2 5 6 5 2 3 1
1980 31 4 3 3 5 6 4 1 4 1
1981 31 2 5 3 8 3 4 1 3 2
1982 26 3 7 1 8 4 2 1
1983 26 1 4 1 6 5 3 3 1 2
1984 26 1 1 2 4 4 6 6 2
1985 30 1 8 6 7 4 1 1 1 1
1986 32 1 1 10 10 5 2 2 1
1987 27 1 3 3 5 2 5 4 2 1 1
1988 28 4 8 8 4 3 1
1989 30 1 1 10 5 8 1 3 1
1990 29 1 5 9 2 3 6 1 1 1
1991 32 2 4 4 8 7 2 1 2 1 1
1992 29 1 7 5 9 2 4 1
1993 26 3 8 5 3 3 1 3
1994 30 4 2 6 4 7 3 2 1 1
1995 30 3 9 2 5 4 3 3 1
1996 34 2 6 7 5 6 5 1 1 1
1997 35 1 8 8 8 4 2 2 2
1998 33 2 7 7 4 6 4 1 1 1
1999 31 1 5 7 7 4 3 2 2
2000 32 1 4 7 14 4 2
2001 33 2 10 11 4 3 2 1
2002 35 5 13 9 2 4 2
2003 36 9 11 12 3 1
2004 32 5 9 8 6 1 3
2005 35 10 9 13 2 1
2006 35 3 9 11 6 4 2
2007 31 3 6 8 6 3 4 1
2008 36 4 9 9 8 4 1 1
2009 36 7 11 8 2 4 2 1 1
2010 34 7 8 7 7 2 2 1
2011 27 7 8 5 4 2 1
Scroll up and down, and that's Morpheus fighting Neo.

upprdeck - The Brown announcers are notoriously hilarious homers.
Title: Re: Cornell 2, Brown 3, OT, Final
Post by: upprdeck on February 25, 2011, 10:05:13 PM
yeah i know.. brain fart.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Rangers9999 on February 25, 2011, 10:32:01 PM
Beeeeeeej
What does your statement mean, Isles?
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ithacat on February 25, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThe prior 3 seasons before Schafer we didn't get a shut out.  Since then, 62 shutouts in 16 seasons, including 12 in ECAC playoff games.

A crosstab of GA by Season:


season Total 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 18 24
1901 3 2 1
1903 2 1 1
1907 2 2
1908 4 4
1909 7 1 2 1 1 1 1
1910 7 4 1 2
1911 10 2 4 3 1
1912 8 1 1 3 1 2
1913 7 2 2 1 1 1
1914 5 1 1 2 1
1915 3 1 1 1
1916 3 1 1 1
1921 5 2 1 1 1
1922 5 2 2 1
1923 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1924 4 1 1 1 1
1925 5 1 1 1 1 1
1926 6 1 2 1 1 1
1927 7 1 3 1 1 1
1928 5 1 2 1 1
1929 5 1 2 1 1
1930 6 1 2 1 1 1
1931 5 2 2 1
1934 2 1 1
1935 4 1 1 1 1
1936 4 1 2 1
1937 2 1 1
1938 4 2 1 1
1939 6 1 1 1 2 1
1940 11 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 1 1
1941 7 1 1 1 2 1 1
1942 6 1 1 1 1 1 1
1943 4 1 1 1 1
1944 4 1 1 1 1
1945 3 1 1 1
1946 4 1 2 1
1947 4 1 1 1 1
1948 4 1 2 1
1958 11 1 1 2 2 2 1 1 1
1959 21 1 5 1 1 1 1 2 1 4 1 1 1 1
1960 21 3 2 1 1 5 2 1 2 2 2
1961 19 3 1 3 3 4 4 1
1962 18 5 3 2 1 3 3 1
1963 19 2 4 1 3 3 1 1 3 1
1964 23 3 4 2 7 3 1 1 2
1965 26 3 4 5 6 4 1 1 1 1
1966 27 5 8 8 1 1 2 2
1967 29 4 10 10 4 1
1968 29 6 11 8 2 1 1
1969 29 4 8 8 6 3
1970 29 3 11 6 5 2 2
1971 27 3 5 8 6 3 2
1972 29 2 3 8 7 5 2 2
1973 29 1 5 6 8 4 2 1 1 1
1974 27 3 3 4 7 4 2 3 1
1975 28 2 4 4 7 3 5 2 1
1976 29 3 2 5 2 3 1 5 4 1 3
1977 29 1 3 3 2 5 5 3 3 2 1 1
1978 27 1 3 4 7 2 5 2 1 2
1979 29 2 3 2 5 6 5 2 3 1
1980 31 4 3 3 5 6 4 1 4 1
1981 31 2 5 3 8 3 4 1 3 2
1982 26 3 7 1 8 4 2 1
1983 26 1 4 1 6 5 3 3 1 2
1984 26 1 1 2 4 4 6 6 2
1985 30 1 8 6 7 4 1 1 1 1
1986 32 1 1 10 10 5 2 2 1
1987 27 1 3 3 5 2 5 4 2 1 1
1988 28 4 8 8 4 3 1
1989 30 1 1 10 5 8 1 3 1
1990 29 1 5 9 2 3 6 1 1 1
1991 32 2 4 4 8 7 2 1 2 1 1
1992 29 1 7 5 9 2 4 1
1993 26 3 8 5 3 3 1 3
1994 30 4 2 6 4 7 3 2 1 1
1995 30 3 9 2 5 4 3 3 1
1996 34 2 6 7 5 6 5 1 1 1
1997 35 1 8 8 8 4 2 2 2
1998 33 2 7 7 4 6 4 1 1 1
1999 31 1 5 7 7 4 3 2 2
2000 32 1 4 7 14 4 2
2001 33 2 10 11 4 3 2 1
2002 35 5 13 9 2 4 2
2003 36 9 11 12 3 1
2004 32 5 9 8 6 1 3
2005 35 10 9 13 2 1
2006 35 3 9 11 6 4 2
2007 31 3 6 8 6 3 4 1
2008 36 4 9 9 8 4 1 1
2009 36 7 11 8 2 4 2 1 1
2010 34 7 8 7 7 2 2 1
2011 27 7 8 5 4 2 1

Thanks. That's the longest run about to end.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Beeeej on February 25, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Rangers9999Beeeeeeej
What does your statement mean, Isles?

It means that upprdeck referred to our goalie as "Isles," but his name is spelled "Iles."
Title: Re: Cornell 2, Brown 3, OT, Final
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 25, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
We knew what he meant.  Give the kid a break.  Spelling mistakes weren't the problem tonight.  The lack of offense on the ice was.
Title: Re: Cornell 2, Brown 3, OT, Final
Post by: Beeeej on February 25, 2011, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanWe knew what he meant.  Give the kid a break.  Spelling mistakes weren't the problem tonight.  The lack of offense on the ice was.

You're right, Toni, I'll lay off.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 25, 2011, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: upprdeckbrown wins..

shot from way outside isles makes toe save and the puck sits for ever and finally gets swept in.

bad loss considering brown played well for all of 5 shifts in the game..
I don't know what game you were watching, but sitting in Meehan it was clear Brown was all over Cornell from the opening faceoff until the five minute major.  They beat Cornell to the puck all night, bottled up the Cornell breakout, and were in control of the game until that penalty.  Schafer even had to call a time-out 2:04 into the third period to kick the crap out of the team because they looked like they were just going through the motions.  When was the last time you saw a coach feel he had to do that?  Unbelievably indifferent effort by a team playing for home ice in the playoffs.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: munchkin on February 26, 2011, 12:24:50 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: upprdeckbrown wins..

shot from way outside isles makes toe save and the puck sits for ever and finally gets swept in.

bad loss considering brown played well for all of 5 shifts in the game..
I don't know what game you were watching, but sitting in Meehan it was clear Brown was all over Cornell from the opening faceoff until the five minute major.  They beat Cornell to the puck all night, bottled up the Cornell breakout, and were in control of the game until that penalty.  Schafer even had to call a time-out 2:04 into the third period to kick the crap out of the team because they looked like they were just going through the motions.  When was the last time you saw a coach feel he had to do that?  Unbelievably indifferent effort by a team playing for home ice in the playoffs.

I couldn't agree more.  It was sloppy, they weren't recovering pucks from the boards, they weren't aware of each other on ice and were sending pucks to empty areas (or Brown players), they allowed a number of weak turnovers.  I know AJH will have words about this as he and I sat next to each other during the game.  They were sluggish, and only during the extended power play did they seem to have it together.  While I'm not saying Brown played stellar hockey, they played with greater intensity and speed than Cornell tonight.

Also, attendance wise: all the Cornell fans were on the opposite side of the rink from the Brown sections and there were several hundred of us, easily.  Before the game I chatted with high school seniors who have been accepted and were experiencing their first game, an unfortunate one, but they did start learning some of the cheers.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Trotsky on February 26, 2011, 09:50:40 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioSchafer even had to call a time-out 2:04 into the third period to kick the crap out of the team because they looked like they were just going through the motions.  When was the last time you saw a coach feel he had to do that?  Unbelievably indifferent effort by a team playing for home ice in the playoffs.
Ugh.  This even came across on the radio broadcast.  I know Providence is depressing, but still.  The 1985 team had an eerily similar (http://www.tbrw.info/seasons/1985/box19850224.html) game at Brown.  It was an inexplicably lazy effort after an outstanding January-February run.  That team recovered and got to the ECAC SF where they were dispatched by the most dominant squad I've ever seen, the eventual National Champion RPI team.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ajh258 on February 26, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioI don't know what game you were watching, but sitting in Meehan it was clear Brown was all over Cornell from the opening faceoff until the five minute major.  They beat Cornell to the puck all night, bottled up the Cornell breakout, and were in control of the game until that penalty.  Schafer even had to call a time-out 2:04 into the third period to kick the crap out of the team because they looked like they were just going through the motions.  When was the last time you saw a coach feel he had to do that?  Unbelievably indifferent effort by a team playing for home ice in the playoffs.

We played like this all year, but our record doesn't show it. A lot of our wins after the winter break were mostly luck IMHO.


In any case, looks like we will be missing that first round bye and drawing Harvard:

If the Engineers beat the Bobcats (which they probably will), Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage), and Harvard holding off SLU (likely since they've been playing better lately), we'll be paired up with SUCKS next weekend at Lynah.

But anything could happen obviously.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: nyc94 on February 26, 2011, 11:27:54 AM
Quote from: ajh258If the Engineers beat the Bobcats (which they probably will), Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage), and Harvard holding off SLU (likely since they've been playing better lately), we'll be paired up with SUCKS next weekend at Lynah.

Maybe I'm doing this wrong but if Harvard beats SLU they finish 10th.  If we finish 6th we would host 11th which would be SLU - because they lost to Harvard and own the H2H tiebreaker over Colgate.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: TimV on February 26, 2011, 11:52:44 AM
We have lost SEVEN points to three of the worst teams in the league. With even just four of those back, we'd be in third, winning the tiebreaker with Dartmouth. We're probably right where we deserve to be.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ajh258 on February 26, 2011, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ajh258If the Engineers beat the Bobcats (which they probably will), Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage), and Harvard holding off SLU (likely since they've been playing better lately), we'll be paired up with SUCKS next weekend at Lynah.

Maybe I'm doing this wrong but if Harvard beats SLU they finish 10th.  If we finish 6th we would host 11th which would be SLU - because they lost to Harvard and own the H2H tiebreaker over Colgate.
I stand corrected! Didn't notice that SLU and Harvard were tied in points.

Well, then let's add SLU to the mix. Even if Colgate wins against Brown today, they cannot finish higher than last because they lose head-to-head compared to the Saints and the Crimson. Unless we pull out something special against Yale tonight, those are our two most-likely opponents next weekend.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Give My Regards on February 26, 2011, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: ajh258... Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage) ...

Small consolation, but Princeton cannot beat Cornell in the tiebreakers.  They split head-to-head and each would have the same number of league wins (it's league wins, not overall), so it would go to record against the top 4, and due to Cornell's better record that Princeton's against Dartmouth and RPI, the Big Red would get the higher seed no matter which (or even if both) of those teams joined Union and Yale in the top 4.

If RPI or Dartmouth wound up tied in the standings with both Cornell and Princeton, the Big Red would win the three-way tiebreaker based on better head-to-head record against the other two.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: ajh258 on February 26, 2011, 01:07:58 PM
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: ajh258... Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage) ...

Small consolation, but Princeton cannot beat Cornell in the tiebreakers.  They split head-to-head and each would have the same number of league wins (it's league wins, not overall), so it would go to record against the top 4, and due to Cornell's better record that Princeton's against Dartmouth and RPI, the Big Red would get the higher seed no matter which (or even if both) of those teams joined Union and Yale in the top 4.

If RPI or Dartmouth wound up tied in the standings with both Cornell and Princeton, the Big Red would win the three-way tiebreaker based on better head-to-head record against the other two.

So it's top 4 league record comparison? Hmm, did not know that.

If RPI loses tonight, then we still have first round bye, assuming Princeton cannot beat Union? Maybe I should go to the Quinnipiac game tonight instead.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: nyc94 on February 26, 2011, 01:57:52 PM
Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: ajh258... Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage) ...

Small consolation, but Princeton cannot beat Cornell in the tiebreakers.  They split head-to-head and each would have the same number of league wins (it's league wins, not overall), so it would go to record against the top 4, and due to Cornell's better record that Princeton's against Dartmouth and RPI, the Big Red would get the higher seed no matter which (or even if both) of those teams joined Union and Yale in the top 4.

If RPI or Dartmouth wound up tied in the standings with both Cornell and Princeton, the Big Red would win the three-way tiebreaker based on better head-to-head record against the other two.

So it's top 4 league record comparison? Hmm, did not know that.

If RPI loses tonight, then we still have first round bye, assuming Princeton cannot beat Union? Maybe I should go to the Quinnipiac game tonight instead.

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP SEEDING
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/tournament/ChampTieBreaking
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: amerks127 on February 26, 2011, 03:39:46 PM
If Colgate tied Yale last night, Cornell certainly has an opportunity to win tonight.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 26, 2011, 03:42:17 PM
Quote from: amerks127If Colgate tied Yale last night, Cornell certainly has an opportunity to win tonight.
But that also shows how tough the bottom teams can be. Getting a bye is all the more important this year, as first round "upsets" are likely.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: dbilmes on February 26, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: amerks127If Colgate tied Yale last night, Cornell certainly has an opportunity to win tonight.
That's the great thing about sports! Is a Cornell win tonight likely? No. Is it possible? Yes. Hopefully, it will be an excellent game, as Yale is playing for first place and we're playing for a first-round bye.
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: jtwcornell91 on February 27, 2011, 08:41:53 AM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: ajh258
Quote from: Give My Regards
Quote from: ajh258... Princeton loses to Union and beats us in a comparison (tied in head-to-head, but higher winning percentage) ...

Small consolation, but Princeton cannot beat Cornell in the tiebreakers.  They split head-to-head and each would have the same number of league wins (it's league wins, not overall), so it would go to record against the top 4, and due to Cornell's better record that Princeton's against Dartmouth and RPI, the Big Red would get the higher seed no matter which (or even if both) of those teams joined Union and Yale in the top 4.

If RPI or Dartmouth wound up tied in the standings with both Cornell and Princeton, the Big Red would win the three-way tiebreaker based on better head-to-head record against the other two.

So it's top 4 league record comparison? Hmm, did not know that.

If RPI loses tonight, then we still have first round bye, assuming Princeton cannot beat Union? Maybe I should go to the Quinnipiac game tonight instead.

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES FOR CHAMPIONSHIP SEEDING
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/tournament/ChampTieBreaking

The league website does't currently spell out the infinite loop fix, but based on past explanations, I keep a page on the full ECAC Tiebreakers (http://69.31.82.90/~whelan/tbrw/tbrw.cgi?ecac.tiebreakers)
Title: Re: cornell 2 - brown 3 OT
Post by: polar on March 01, 2011, 03:52:47 AM
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/index

Go watch that second Brown goal. First, crazy acrobatic moves. Second, for the life of me I can't tell how the puck ends up from under Andy's body into the net. Does he accidentally kick it in? Does D'Agastino tip it? My guess is that Iles assumed the puck was already in the net, based on everyone else's reactions, and made a sloppy move. Regardless, one of the strangest looking plays I've seen live.