Via ECAC site, Binghamton Press article on Greening's call up. (http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20110131/SPORTS/101310353/1118/Binghamton-Senators--Greening-gets-taste-of-NHL)
Montreal Gazette article on Greening's call-up:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Senators+ready+give+rookie+Greening+shot/4199652/story.html
Since first seeing him play, I've always thought he'll be a very solid NHLer. Looking forward to watching the game tonight if the storm doesn't screw up my Directv dish.
It appears he will be wearing number 52. On MSG.
Quote from: Ronald '09It appears he will be wearing number 52. On MSG.
Thank you. I tuned in after they showed the line-ups and was wondering what # Greening would be wearing.
The good thing about Mike Emerick calling the game is that he does give "shout-outs" to the college that someone played at. Maybe he'll even point out if Greening's parents are in the stands watching.
Yep, #52. Had a nice breakout on his third shift under heavy pressure. Looked a step slow on the forecheck but not surprising at this level. 4 shifts and 3 mins of ice time so far in the first period.
I'm watching the Rogers Sports Net broadcast even though Directv doesn't have that in HD, rather than the Devils' broadcast. Pre-game they featured Colin -"we'll be back with Colin Greening's first NHL game next", talked a lot about him during the first period, showed his parents in the crowd a few times, and then had an interview with him when he came off the ice at the end of the first. He described the call telling him he was coming up as "surreal" and how glad he was that his parents could get to the game since they sacrificed so much for him.
Did I just hear the Devils announcers say that Greening went to UMass-Lowell? ::sigh::
Twice.
At the end of the game, a 2-1 Senators' loss, the Ottawa broadcast zoomed in on someone holding a Greening Cornell jersey. The owner first held up the back and then he turned it to the CORNELL front. If you're reading this, please let us know who you are - good work getting it on TV.
Greening was on the ice for 08:05 and didn't register any shots.
I am the mystery fan. I was determined to get as close to the glass as possible after getting a lower-bowl seat for a mere $30. Called my friend Joe, whose Greening jersey I borrowed. Met up with him (he had to play lawyer and stay late at the office--too bad) before hopping the Path to the Rock. I made it impossible for the Ottawa cameraman to ignore me. I kept shouting for Colin. Welcomed him to the big show. Glad you got the feed for the Ottawa broadcast. Some Sens fans stopped me to chat between periods; they seemed happy about Greening's call-up. A special experience indeed! Even some goosebumps! Oh, and Greening was definitely aware that I was bleeding red. Were other Faithful there? I couldn't tell.
Craig Moskowitz '83
I keep a Cornell jersey handy in case there's a game at the Prudential where the visitors have a Cornellian playing. Love the rink and the Devils (more so in previous years), wish a ticket plus parking plus concessions didn't cost more than season tickets at Lynah. What we pay for tickets is helping Moulson pay off his student loans. Managed to do a Prudential morning tour just before Xmas when the Islanders were in town and they came on the ice for the morning skate; nice to see Moulson then.
The Cornell Atlanta Alumni Association attended the Thrashers game last night (2/1) to watch Matt Moulson and the Islanders. Before the game we were joined by Darren Eliot who gave a shout out to the "33 Cornell alumni in Section 301 tonight" during the TV broadcast. Moulson did not score, but the Islanders won 4-1.
It looked like Moulson had a goal on a deflection, the announcers initially said it was him. 7 SOG I think I saw? Sounds like a dominating effort, albeit without a point (but a W).
We thought it was tipped in by Moulson as well.
Quote from: RatushnyFanIt looked like Moulson had a goal on a deflection, the announcers initially said it was him. 7 SOG I think I saw? Sounds like a dominating effort, albeit without a point (but a W).
Matt was in front screening and it was tipped by the d-man's stick who was trying to cover Matt. I like the way, as soon as it went in, that Matt pointed to Travis Hamonic, saying in effect "that's your goal" - as it was the kid's first NHL goal.
Some talk and links to articles regarding Greening's call up.
http://www.silversevensens.com/2011/2/1/1967282/colin-greening-set-to-play-first-nhl-game
#52 Looking Good (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/photos?photoId=1097799&gameId=310201011)
Just saw this link posted (http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=40&id=95720) on the NHL.com website about Matt Moulson. Apparently the 9th round in 2003 was a very good round for late bloomers.
And if you didn't already hear, Colin was sent back down to Binghamton.
Quote from: CowbellGuyAnd if you didn't already hear, Colin was sent back down to Binghamton.
That was more like a cuban coffee than a Starbuck's Grande. :-/
I hope he gets another shot at it soon.
Quote from: TransactionsIdaho's Evan Barlow has been suspended for two games and fined an undisclosed amount as a result of his actions in ECHL Game #413, Idaho at Stockton, on Jan. 30.
Barlow is fined and suspended under Rule #28 – Supplementary Discipline.
Barlow will miss Idaho's games vs. Ontario on Feb. 1 and vs. Bakersfield on Feb. 9.
Quote from: Odessa Jackalopes of CHL02/01/11 McKee, David (G) granted leave by league
8 minutes and 5 seconds............hmm. I sort of think if your season isn't going that well and you're evaluating young talent, you should give them 4-5 games with 15 minutes of ice time. I don't know how you can make much of a determination in 8 minutes.
He saw 3:59 ice time in the first period....It looks like his ice time was cut substantially after the first intermission. I wonder what this indicates....
Quote from: Feb 3rd Transactions:Dallas Stars Raymond Sawada Called up from minors, from Texas-AHL
Quote from: rediceHe saw 3:59 ice time in the first period....It looks like his ice time was cut substantially after the first intermission. I wonder what this indicates....
I saw him at one point in the 3rd period where he and his line mates kept the puck in the Devils zone for quite ahwile. I thought he certainly looked like he belong during that shift.
Quote from: RitaQuote from: CowbellGuyAnd if you didn't already hear, Colin was sent back down to Binghamton.
That was more like a cuban coffee than a Starbuck's Grande. :-/
I hope he gets another shot at it soon.
Well, the original announcement of the call-up on the Senators' site said it was "on an emergency basis to replace Jarkko Ruutu," and seeing that Ruutu returned on Feb. 2, this isn't terribly surprising. Too bad it didn't happen earlier to get Colin a few more games.
Quote from: RichHQuote from: RitaQuote from: CowbellGuyAnd if you didn't already hear, Colin was sent back down to Binghamton.
That was more like a cuban coffee than a Starbuck's Grande. :-/
I hope he gets another shot at it soon.
Well, the original announcement of the call-up on the Senators' site said it was "on an emergency basis to replace Jarkko Ruutu," and seeing that Ruutu returned on Feb. 2, this isn't terribly surprising. Too bad it didn't happen earlier to get Colin a few more games.
If it was an emergency call-up, they actually would have had to call him up again to keep him up after the injured player returned. This is simply book keeping for a young player who can be called up or sent down at any time, but it matters for a veteran who needs to clear through reentry waivers to be called up. An emergency call-up does not get exposed to waivers, but must be returned to the minors or pass through reentry waivers in order to reactivate the injured player. This is getting off topic, but a prominent case that comes to mind was two seasons ago when Marty Brodeur got hurt and Scott Clemmensen got called up on an emergency basis and ended up winning 25 games. When Marty returned, he was sent to the minors and Kevin Weekes remained the backup because he certainly would have been claimed on reentry waivers for half his salary, which I believe was veteran minimum that season. I can't imagine too many goalies have won 25 games and finished the regular season in the minors before.
Sawada called up to Dallas and must really be seeing stars...saw the hit on NESN, this from Boston.com...
" Under the provisions of NHL Rule 48, Daniel Paille was sent off for a 5-minute major and match penalty for a headshot after he leveled Raymond Sawada with a crunching blindside hit in which Paille's elbow caught Sawada in the head."
Announcers believe the play will be reviewed post-game for possible additional action on Paille.
I'm sure the hit will be available soon on highlights.
Just saw the video-
Paille angles in from behind, leads with an elbow to the head, and leaves his feet on a blindside hit on Sawada.
This should (and very likely will) be a suspension. I hope Sawada's not concussed.
I sometimes complain about players not protecting themselves (esp. along the boards), but this hit was just plain dirty. Even if Sawada's head is up he doesn't see Paille coming. Really dangerous and disrespectful.
Quote from: Cactus12Just saw the video-
Paille angles in from behind, leads with an elbow to the head, and leaves his feet on a blindside hit on Sawada.
This should (and very likely will) be a suspension. I hope Sawada's not concussed.
I sometimes complain about players not protecting themselves (esp. along the boards), but this hit was just plain dirty. Even if Sawada's head is up he doesn't see Paille coming. Really dangerous and disrespectful.
Here's a link to game highlights. It was definitely a wild one in Boston tonight.
http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip412608#clip412608
Here is a link to video of just the hit on Sawada. Paul Kukla says in the comments that there is a report of a broken nose and separated shoulder.
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/video_paille_hit_tonight/
That hit was disturbingly similar to the Matt Cooke hit on Savard last year. Bruins should know better.
Paille received a 4 game suspension and a $23,118.28 fine for the hit on Sawada.
Quote from: jts15Here is a link to video of just the hit on Sawada. Paul Kukla says in the comments that there is a report of a broken nose and separated shoulder.
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/video_paille_hit_tonight/
Ow. After watching that, I had to flash back to a happier memory for Sawada:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUMTukYJK8
Moulson and Iggulden get deserved praise from the announcers, but watch what Ray does: out of the penalty box, he makes the original breakout pass to Iggy for the first chance, then forces the turnover in the OSU zone to allow Moulson to pass to Iggulden for the goal.
On the Miami-Michigan game tonight, the camera focused on Topher Scott and the announcer discussed how smaller players don't really get a fair shot at the next level, and mentioned Ryan Vesce also. His related this to Miami players Camper and Miele, who are also somewhat small in stature - not a small as Topher and Ryan though.
Quote from: cquinnPaille received a 4 game suspension and a $23,118.28 fine for the hit on Sawada.
And here's Paille and his coach saying that it was Sawada's fault. http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip413137#clip413137 The announcers don't comment, but the multiple replays of the hit make it clear that that the producers think it was dirty.
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: cquinnPaille received a 4 game suspension and a $23,118.28 fine for the hit on Sawada.
And here's Paille and his coach saying that it was Sawada's fault. http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip413137#clip413137 The announcers don't comment, but the multiple replays of the hit make it clear that that the producers think it was dirty.
Interestingly, although he says he was trying for the shoulder, if anything it looks like Sawada was actually starting to stand straighter as he was being hit. Sort of negates that it was Sawada's fault.
Quote from: David HardingQuote from: cquinnPaille received a 4 game suspension and a $23,118.28 fine for the hit on Sawada.
And here's Paille and his coach saying that it was Sawada's fault. http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip413137#clip413137 The announcers don't comment, but the multiple replays of the hit make it clear that that the producers think it was dirty.
Paille's teammates, Andrew Ference and Patrice Bergeron, both have made comments that they thought it was a dirty play. "We can't be hypocrites" said Ference.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=310203001
Even without the crackdown on hits to the head, Paille was charging and elbowing.
In between periods of the DU-CC game tonight, they showed a replay of a hit that broke a DU player's neck early this season, and it was a very similar hit. Fortunately the player is up and walking with a heavy neck brace.
Quote from: cquinnPaille received a 4 game suspension and a $23,118.28 fine for the hit on Sawada.
The AP article in yesterday's Cape Cod Times gave the hit one sentence:
"Daniel Paille received a match penalty for a head shot on Sutherby.":-|
Interestingly enough, the "was Paille's suspension justified?" poll on Boston.com's Bruins blog is pretty evenly divided. Personally I think 4 games is good. Paille isn't a dirty player, but the hit was dirty. Hopefully the NHL is sending the message that dirty without intent is 4 games, so if you throw in intent (ahem, Matt Cooke) you better be prepared to sit for a good, long while.
Ben Scrivens is back in the ECHL (http://www.royalshockey.com/news/news.asp?story_id=1377). He was peppered with 52 shots last night, and he stopped 50 of them (http://echl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=8432) to lead the Reading Royals to beat the Trenton Devils 4-2 (http://www.royalshockey.com/news/news.asp?story_id=1378).
Quote from: ftyuvInterestingly enough, the "was Paille's suspension justified?" poll on Boston.com's Bruins blog is pretty evenly divided. Personally I think 4 games is good. Paille isn't a dirty player, but the hit was dirty. Hopefully the NHL is sending the message that dirty without intent is 4 games, so if you throw in intent (ahem, Matt Cooke) you better be prepared to sit for a good, long while.
Bruins fans and fans of Gordie Howe hockey can see enough in the replay to see a hard hit on a player who wasn't looking around so, sure, the poll could be evenly divided. Could Paille have delivered a check that was more check and less corporal punishment? Certainly.
Paille teammate Andrew Ference criticizes the hit ("I mean, it's a bad hit, right?" [you'd think he'd say "eh" unless the Times cleaned it up]) and dings Sidney Crosby for not doing same when a Pengins teammate delivered a cheap shot on the Bruins' Marc Savard. http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/05/bruins-ference-criticizes-teammates-hit/
Quote from: billhowardCould Paille have delivered a check that was more check and less corporal punishment? Certainly.
This is the problem. As Bob McKenzie pointed out after that game, Paille could have easily taken the puck without making the hit. As he said, the point of hitting has stopped being about separating the player from the puck when you start making hits like that (It essentially prevented Paille from even getting the puck because he left the hit). I think the NHL needs to more drastically punish hits like that, the ones that are just about devastating the player you are hitting, and I am not one of the people that "want to take hitting out of the game" just because I say that.
Moulson got his 18th on a nice second-effort in front of the net in the Isles 5-3 win over Ottawa last night.
Quote from: billhowardQuote from: ftyuvInterestingly enough, the "was Paille's suspension justified?" poll on Boston.com's Bruins blog is pretty evenly divided. Personally I think 4 games is good. Paille isn't a dirty player, but the hit was dirty. Hopefully the NHL is sending the message that dirty without intent is 4 games, so if you throw in intent (ahem, Matt Cooke) you better be prepared to sit for a good, long while.
Bruins fans and fans of Gordie Howe hockey can see enough in the replay to see a hard hit on a player who wasn't looking around so, sure, the poll could be evenly divided. Could Paille have delivered a check that was more check and less corporal punishment? Certainly.
Paille teammate Andrew Ference criticizes the hit ("I mean, it's a bad hit, right?" [you'd think he'd say "eh" unless the Times cleaned it up]) and dings Sidney Crosby for not doing same when a Pengins teammate delivered a cheap shot on the Bruins' Marc Savard. http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/05/bruins-ference-criticizes-teammates-hit/
Just to be clear, I was pleasantly surprised by how many Bruins fans saw it as a dirty hit. We're not all homers!
Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy defends Ference (http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/articles/2011/02/08/the_call_here_bruins_ference_a_stand_up_defenseman/?page=2) for telling it like it is about his teammate's hit that injured Sawada, while some other hockey neanderthals like Don Cherry say you never badmouth a teammate, even if he's an ax murderer. No wonder they can't eliminate fighting from the NHL!
Interview with Scrivens (http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2011/02/09/scrivens-%E2%80%9910-follows-cu-goalie-legends-pros) in the Cornell Daily Sun.
And Douglas Murray gets a Hit of the Night! (http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/4477/hit-of-the-night-doug-murray-takes-down-jason-chimera)
Quote from: profudgeAnd Douglas Murray gets a Hit of the Night! (http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/4477/hit-of-the-night-doug-murray-takes-down-jason-chimera)
After setting a franchise record with 7 blocked shots the previous game against the Bruins.
(back to back defensive oriented 2-0 shutouts. Maybe Douglas suggested that the Sharks take a look at Schafer's game strategy.)
Matt Moulson gets his 19th goal of the season on the PP with a great pass from Tavares Tuesday night in the Islander's 5-3 loss to Toronto.
Quote from: Larry72Matt Moulson gets his 19th goal of the season on the PP with a great pass from Tavares Tuesday night in the Islander's 5-3 loss to Toronto.
... And he just got #20 (Isles crushing Pens 7-2 in second.
Quote from: jeff '84Quote from: Larry72Matt Moulson gets his 19th goal of the season on the PP with a great pass from Tavares Tuesday night in the Islander's 5-3 loss to Toronto.
... And he just got #20 (Isles crushing Pens 7-2 in second.
Just flipped it on and caught the goal. Thought surely I was seeing a typo on the top of the screen!
.... and 21st.... yeah crazy game.
Not "in" the pros; more like "at" the pros: I just noticed someone with a "Cornell Hockey" t-shirt or sweatshirt sitting right behind the visiting bench on today's Kings-Flyers game.
(Didn't feel the need for a new thread).
The Canadiens called up Brendon Nash today (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552780).
Quote from: cbuckserThe Canadiens called up Brendon Nash today (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552780).
From another article, "Youth Movement" (//assign%20a%20fragment%20identifier%20to%20each%20of%20a%20plurality%20of%20backbone%20fragments,%20each%20of%20the%20backbone%20fragments%20comprising%20one%20or%20more%20of%20the%20backbone%20nodes,%20each%20of%20the%20backbone%20fragments%20being%20unable%20to%20communicate%20with%20the%20remaining%20backbone%20fragments%20due%20to%20a%20fragmentation%20of%20the%20communication%20network), on the Canadiens' website:
QuoteWith Tuesday morning's call-up of defenseman Brendon Nash, Habs head-coach Jacques Martin can now count five Bulldogs in his lineup and none of them are there to play the spectator's role.
...
Another Hamilton transplant that stands the chance to make a splash of his own is Brendon Nash who could find himself in the Canadiens lineup as early as tonight's game against Buffalo should Jaroslav Spacek be unable to play. Max Pacioretty, one of Nash's former teammates, doesn't doubt for a second that the young defenseman will answer the call if given the opportunity.
"Brendon's got great hands and really good stick work. He's a really useful guy to have on the power-play and he's good at starting the rush. I'm sure he's going to be able to do all the things here that brought him success in Hamilton," promised Pacioretty. "Playing at this level, at this time of the year is something that makes us all better players."
Tonight's Habs-Sabres game is on Vs. for those who might be interested in watching, though at this point it's not clear whether Nash will play.
Quote from: cbuckserThe Canadiens called up Brendon Nash today (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552780).
Sounds like he will be in the lineup and wearing number 47. 7:30 on VS. He's expected to be paired with Yannick Weber.
He played 5 shifts totaling 3:37 in the first. Most of that was in the first half of the period. He only played 22 seconds in the latter half of the period. 2 shots on goal, one shot attempted blocked, one blocked shot.
The best place to follow for detailed statistics is here: http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20102011/ES020849.HTM
Quote from: Ronald '09Quote from: cbuckserThe Canadiens called up Brendon Nash today (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552780).
Sounds like he will be in the lineup and wearing number 47. 7:30 on VS. He's expected to be paired with Yannick Weber.
He played 5 shifts totaling 3:37 in the first. Most of that was in the first half of the period. He only played 22 seconds in the latter half of the period. 2 shots on goal, one shot attempted blocked, one blocked shot.
The best place to follow for detailed statistics is here: http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20102011/ES020849.HTM
This, to me, is the most amazing of our grads. Remember how many of us talked about him; not believing in his skills. Joined as a free agent, and called up this year. Now, he probably won't stay, but just doing it is great. How I'd like to have him back.
Quote from: Josh '99...assign a fragment identifier to each of a plurality of backbone fragments, each of the backbone fragments comprising one or more of the backbone nodes, each of the backbone fragments being unable to communicate with the remaining backbone fragments due to a fragmentation of the communication network...
Are you doing medmal work or something?
Unfortunately, the Versus feed froze about 25 minute ago, and all we're getting is a still image of stopped play about midway through the second period. Or is it just me (or just my cable provider)? Can anybody else report being able to watch the game live at the moment?
Quote from: BeeeejUnfortunately, the Versus feed froze about 25 minute ago, and all we're getting is a still image of stopped play about midway through the second period. Or is it just me (or just my cable provider)? Can anybody else report being able to watch the game live at the moment?
I am having no problems with versus right now on Time Warner Ithaca, Its intermission report. Had no problems with the game either.
Quote from: reilly83Quote from: BeeeejUnfortunately, the Versus feed froze about 25 minute ago, and all we're getting is a still image of stopped play about midway through the second period. Or is it just me (or just my cable provider)? Can anybody else report being able to watch the game live at the moment?
I am having no problems with versus right now on Time Warner Ithaca, Its intermission report. Had no problems with the game either.
Well, crap. I guess it's TWCNY.
Nash and CU got a nice shout-out from Pierre McGuire in the 2nd (and I'm paraphrasing):"Brendon Nash out of Cornell University is having a fine game."
Looks like it was my TiVo being temperamental... the game's back now (or at least the commercial break is).
Quote from: scoop85Nash and CU got a nice shout-out from Pierre McGuire in the 2nd (and I'm paraphrasing):"Brendon Nash out of Cornell University is having a fine game."
OTOH, the other night I was listening to a game in my car, and the announcers singled out Douglas Murray. They mentioned his Swedish heritage and that he played high school hockey on Long Island, but did not mention even that he went to college. :`-(
Quote from: SwampyQuote from: scoop85Nash and CU got a nice shout-out from Pierre McGuire in the 2nd (and I'm paraphrasing):"Brendon Nash out of Cornell University is having a fine game."
OTOH, the other night I was listening to a game in my car, and the announcers singled out Douglas Murray. They mentioned his Swedish heritage and that he played high school hockey on Long Island, but did not mention even that he went to college. :`-(
The VS announcers didn't get the memo that Brendon's brother Riley is now a top prospect with CAROLINA and not Edmonton.
On the bright side, I watched the Flyers-Tampa game last night and not once did I have to hear that Dominic Moore went to Sucks. ::moon::
Quote from: Jim HylaThis, to me, is the most amazing of our grads. Remember how many of us talked about him; not believing in his skills. Joined as a free agent, and called up this year. Now, he probably won't stay, but just doing it is great. How I'd like to have him back.
I only saw him play a couple of times a year at Cornell, so I didn't weigh in too much, but to me he always looked like a really smart player with size and enough skating ability. I'm amazed that he's leading the Bulldogs in scoring among defensemen and a +12 his first year in the AHL. Hopefully that warrants an extended look with the Canadiens at some point. Given his size I like to think that somebody is going to give him a shot.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Josh '99...assign a fragment identifier to each of a plurality of backbone fragments, each of the backbone fragments comprising one or more of the backbone nodes, each of the backbone fragments being unable to communicate with the remaining backbone fragments due to a fragmentation of the communication network...
Are you doing medmal work or something?
Wow, that was... umm... not the right copy-paste? ::blush::
Quote from: Josh '99Quote from: ugarteQuote from: Josh '99...assign a fragment identifier to each of a plurality of backbone fragments, each of the backbone fragments comprising one or more of the backbone nodes, each of the backbone fragments being unable to communicate with the remaining backbone fragments due to a fragmentation of the communication network...
Are you doing medmal work or something?
Wow, that was... umm... not the right copy-paste? ::blush::
It was better than this effort: Major Gaffe (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/8322966/Serene-Branson-hospitalised-after-Grammys-speech-problems.html)
[Note: this is only funny once it was determined that the reporter was NOT having a stroke or medical issue]
Quote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: Jim HylaThis, to me, is the most amazing of our grads. Remember how many of us talked about him; not believing in his skills. Joined as a free agent, and called up this year. Now, he probably won't stay, but just doing it is great. How I'd like to have him back.
I only saw him play a couple of times a year at Cornell, so I didn't weigh in too much, but to me he always looked like a really smart player with size and enough skating ability. I'm amazed that he's leading the Bulldogs in scoring among defensemen and a +12 his first year in the AHL. Hopefully that warrants an extended look with the Canadiens at some point. Given his size I like to think that somebody is going to give him a shot.
I don't mean to imply that I'm not happy for Nash's success at the pro level. However, I think you are too quickly forgetting his production as a defensemen with Cornell. On a team where Devin, Krueger and D'Agostino were collectively a +44, Nash was a -1. His point production and goal production don't stand out, and he took more than double the penalty minutes of the next closest defenseman.
2009-2010 ECAC Statistics (apologies for the formatting):
Name GP Points G A PIM +/-
Mike Devin 32 14 2 12 22 +14
Keir Ross 28 6 2 4 12 +2
Justin Krueger 34 10 1 9 22 +17
Nick D'Agostino 32 18 4 14 6 +13
Braden Birch 32 4 0 4 10 +4
Sean Whitney 25 11 3 8 10 +4
Brendon Nash 33 18 2 16 48 -1
Again, I have a sample size issue, but didn't he generally play against the top lines? I look at John Madden's +/- last year and this year, and I don't think that he suddenly become a poor defensive forward. He has a tough role.
It would seem to me that he either got a lot better (to be so productive at the AHL with a +12 and an NHL appearance) or he was pretty good to begin with, or some combination thereof.
Of course my +/- explanation could be an excuse for any player, the key is the game situations where the player is used.
Quote from: amerks127Quote from: RatushnyFanQuote from: Jim HylaThis, to me, is the most amazing of our grads. Remember how many of us talked about him; not believing in his skills. Joined as a free agent, and called up this year. Now, he probably won't stay, but just doing it is great. How I'd like to have him back.
I only saw him play a couple of times a year at Cornell, so I didn't weigh in too much, but to me he always looked like a really smart player with size and enough skating ability. I'm amazed that he's leading the Bulldogs in scoring among defensemen and a +12 his first year in the AHL. Hopefully that warrants an extended look with the Canadiens at some point. Given his size I like to think that somebody is going to give him a shot.
I don't mean to imply that I'm not happy for Nash's success at the pro level. However, I think you are too quickly forgetting his production as a defensemen with Cornell. On a team where Devin, Krueger and D'Agostino were collectively a +44, Nash was a -1. His point production and goal production don't stand out, and he took more than double the penalty minutes of the next closest defenseman.
2009-2010 ECAC Statistics (apologies for the formatting):
Name GP Points G A PIM +/-
Mike Devin 32 14 2 12 22 +14
Keir Ross 28 6 2 4 12 +2
Justin Krueger 34 10 1 9 22 +17
Nick D'Agostino 32 18 4 14 6 +13
Braden Birch 32 4 0 4 10 +4
Sean Whitney 25 11 3 8 10 +4
Brendon Nash 33 18 2 16 48 -1
But you prove my point. Many on this board kept saying how bad he was and how bad it was that Schafer kept using him in clutch situations. But for some reason he was picked as an All-American, (http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/4/9/MICE_0409104959.aspx?path=mhockey) and now he gets called up to the NHL, less than 1 year out of college. Hmm.., maybe he really is a good player after all? All I know is that I'd like to have him back.
Quote from: Jim HylaMany on this board kept saying how bad he was and how bad it was that Schafer kept using him in clutch situations.
I don't think it was so much "many" as a couple highly dedicated posters. :) There was a similar situation with Murray and O'Byrne. It must be something about defensemen. ;)
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaMany on this board kept saying how bad he was and how bad it was that Schafer kept using him in clutch situations.
I don't think it was so much "many" as a couple highly dedicated posters. :) There was a similar situation with Murray and O'Byrne. It must be something about defensemen. ;)
...who go on to play in the NHL.
Recall that we often criticized Brendon Nash for being too aggressive offensively. He would carry the puck deep into the zone and then be out of position to cover a rush going back the other way. Or, he would make poor shot choices from the point on the powerplay that would lead to 2x1s the other way. This same offensive-mindedness might be seen as an asset at the professional level, where teams do not necessarily have a defense-first mentality.
No one disputes that Schafer used Nash in key situations. He has size and I've seen him make plenty of nice plays to, for example, strip opponents of the puck along the boards. He also made plenty of mistakes that were not - in my opinion, at least - fitting for an All-American defenseman. Once you began to look for these mistakes, they were easy to notice. It's not like Nash was lighting up the scoresheet, so I assume that the All-America selection was made on the basis of his defensive play. I continue to believe that Colin Greening will have more of an impact at the NHL level than will Brendon Nash. Like Mitch, I wish all Cornellians success at the professional level.
Quote from: ebilmesOr, he would make poor shot choices from the point on the powerplay that would lead to 2x1s the other way. This same offensive-mindedness might be seen as an asset at the professional level, where teams do not necessarily have a defense-first mentality.
Teams might not have a defense-first mentality, but there isn't a coach in the NHL (or the AHL, or the ECHL) who thinks it's acceptable to take a badly chosen shot from the point and give up a shorthanded 2x1.
(Which doesn't disprove your overall point, of course.)
Via ECAC Website Nash gets to travel with the Canadiens (http://www.thespec.com/sports/article/486249--habs-rookie-nash-thrilled-to-be-included-on-three-game-western-canada-swing) out west and a piece from The Canadiens' website. (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552906&cmpid=rss-News_in_English)
Quote from: Jim HylaVia ECAC Website Nash gets to travel with the Canadiens (http://www.thespec.com/sports/article/486249--habs-rookie-nash-thrilled-to-be-included-on-three-game-western-canada-swing) out west and a piece from The Canadiens' website. (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552906&cmpid=rss-News_in_English)
The Habs traded a 5th round pick to Anaheim for Paul Mara, so I would think that likely leaves Nash as the odd man out, unless they go with 7 defensemen.
Also, in regards to the system he's playing in now, head coach Jacques Martin almost exclusively employs the trap in 5x5. I'm not sure who coaches Hamilton, but I think every AHL team plays the same system as their parent club these days.
Quote from: Ronald '09Quote from: Jim HylaVia ECAC Website Nash gets to travel with the Canadiens (http://www.thespec.com/sports/article/486249--habs-rookie-nash-thrilled-to-be-included-on-three-game-western-canada-swing) out west and a piece from The Canadiens' website. (http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=552906&cmpid=rss-News_in_English)
The Habs traded a 5th round pick to Anaheim for Paul Mara, so I would think that likely leaves Nash as the odd man out, unless they go with 7 defensemen.
Also, in regards to the system he's playing in now, head coach Jacques Martin almost exclusively employs the trap in 5x5. I'm not sure who coaches Hamilton, but I think every AHL team plays the same system as their parent club these days.
The first article said that Subban played over 29 minutes in the Buffalo game (!). Doubtful he can sustain that for too many games in a row, so you'd have to think Nash will get some more ice time as he gets his legs under him.
JS Giguere left last night's game for Toronto with an injury. With Gustavsson and Rynnas injured, they would likely call up Scrivens if they need a goalie. They don't play until Saturday though, and Giguere may be fine. Even if Scrivens does get called up, it would likely only be to backup Reimer, and it doesn't sound as though the Giguere injury is going to be long-term.
Quote from: ebilmesRecall that we often criticized Brendon Nash for being too aggressive offensively.
The criticism on this forum I most remember was that he seemed "uninterested" or that he "didn't care." That led to the whole debate about quantifiable "heart." His skating style was controlled, upright, and smooth, which probably made him look slower to some. My opinion was always that he was one of the strongest skaters on the team. In my opinion, he had more consistency in his decision-making during his first 2 seasons than his last 2 (maybe due to an increased role in the blue-line corps?), but he always had the skill-set to make it to the NHL.
I'm trying to resist doing an "I told you so" to all the "BRENDON SUCKS! Why is he getting so much ice time?" crowd, but I just failed in that effort in this very sentence.
Colin Greening gets another emergency call-up from Binghamton to Ottawa with the Bruins (H) and Leafs (A) on the Fri-Sat schedule.
Quote from: Ronald '09JS Giguere left last night's game for Toronto with an injury. With Gustavsson and Rynnas injured, they would likely call up Scrivens if they need a goalie. They don't play until Saturday though, and Giguere may be fine. Even if Scrivens does get called up, it would likely only be to backup Reimer, and it doesn't sound as though the Giguere injury is going to be long-term.
Burke doesn't seem to acknowledge Scrivens as an option.........for whatever this is worth http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2011/02/17/sp-leafs-goalie.html?ref=rss#ixzz1EFB3WJkS (http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2011/02/17/sp-leafs-goalie.html?ref=rss#ixzz1EFB3WJkS)
Quote from: Kristi 97Colin Greening gets another emergency call-up from Binghamton to Ottawa with the Bruins (H) and Leafs (A) on the Fri-Sat schedule.
The Senators traded Jarkko Ruutu to the Ducks today. The Sens' fire sale should lead to plenty of NHL action for Colin Greening.
B Nash playing again for Habs tonight. Per CBC announcer, he's "in the lineup because Paul Mara's equipment didn't get here."
Quote from: jkahnB Nash playing again for Habs tonight. Per CBC announcer, he's "in the lineup because Paul Mara's equipment didn't get here."
Brendon might be getting a bit more ice time because Habs D-man Wisniewski (#20) took a puck in the face. Given the amount of blood on the ice, it might take awhile to stitch him up.
EDIT: Ouch. Edmonton just scored their 2nd goal in 15 seconds and as the CBC announcers put it "Nash was the goat on that play" (their words, not mine!). On the play, Nash got hung up at the offensive blueline and couldn't recover.
Douglas Murray will have a busy night keeping Ovechkin and the Caps in check.
Damien Cox of the Toronto Star is reporting that Scrivens will likley start for the Marlies tonight and then be called up to backup Reimer tomorrow.
http://twitter.com/#!/DamoSpin/status/38616300536205312
Quote from: RitaDouglas Murray will have a busy night keeping Ovechkin and the Caps in check.
ESPN Hit of the Night (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkIp5DIds0).
Nice article on Scrivens's call up. Hopefully he stays up long enough to play in a game.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/941889--undrafted-scrivens-beats-the-odds-fills-hole-in-leafs-net
For those longing for the days of Joey Nieuwendyk, turn into the NHL Network and then CBC.com. Tonight, as part of the Heritage Classic, is the alumni game between the Calgary Flames and the Montreal Canadiens. The first period is being shown live now as part of CBC's HNIC. Periods 2 and 3 will be stream on the internet.
Moulson just got #22
Quote from: jeff '84Moulson just got #22
and an interview coming up on MSG plus. Former NY Ranger Mike Backman has two daughters - one married to Matt, one married to LA Kings goalie Jonathan Quick - who Matt scored on tonite.
Edit -- make that two goals against brother in law -- #23.
Quote from: jeff '84Moulson just got #22
And #23 on a very nice spin-around shot from the slot.
Greening got a shift in the final minute of regulation. He must be doing something right.
Nash got sent back down to Hamilton yesterday as Gill is returning from his injury and Mara will be joining the lineup, so he won't be playing in today's Heritage Classic.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/transactions/
Was there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
Quote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Trotsky,
How come Eliot does not have any red bars associated with him on the page? (on TBRW)
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Thanks, I added him. This brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 40-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Quote from: Chris 02Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Trotsky,
How come Eliot does not have any red bars associated with him on the page? (on TBRW)
Oversight. Added now (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Thank you!
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
Quote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
Quote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
#24 for Moulson.
Quote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
Sorry, I didn't realize you were refering to starting, as this whole discussion got started with Bitz on IR.
Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.
Not to mention #25....
Quote from: jeff '84Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.
Not to mention #25....
And #26 with the ENG to seal the game, Moulson's second career NHL hat trick, and five goals in the last two games.
Quote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...
Greening is doing well in practice, at leas (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=354825)t:
QuoteOn Monday, during the team's skills competition, rookie Colin Greening also made a surprisingly good showing, setting a new team record in the fastest skater competition and challenging Matt Carkner for the team's hardest shot.
Greening, a 24-year-old forward from St. John's, N.L., who made his NHL debut on Feb. 1 and has played three career games, upstaged defenceman Erik Karlsson after Karlsson's lap of 13.700 seconds around the ice broke Antoine Vermette's old team record of 13.709. Greening went next and did it in 13.665 seconds.
"I thought Erik was going to get the that, for sure," Greening said. "When I saw I was next, I was just like, 'Don't get embarrassed."
Greening then fired a slapshot at 100.5 miles per hour, topped only by Carkner's 101.1 miles per hour. His performance earned the moniker of "Usain Bolt" from Spezza.
"He's the fastest man alive," Spezza quipped.
Quote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...
I know he got to carry it but I'm pretty sure his name wasn't engraved on the plate. I think the rule there is that you have to skate. I'm pretty sure the #2 goalie didn't get his name on the cup either.
Quote from: BeeeejQuote from: jeff '84Quote from: Jordan 04#24 for Moulson.
Not to mention #25....
And #26 with the ENG to seal the game, Moulson's second career NHL hat trick, and five goals in the last two games.
Too bad he's letting that new contract get to his head :-}
In baseball it's really the 25-man roster. You can be on the 40-man roster and never get out of the minor leagues.
Quote from: ebilmesGreening is doing well in practice, at leas (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=354825)t:
QuoteOn Monday, during the team's skills competition, rookie Colin Greening also made a surprisingly good showing, setting a new team record in the fastest skater competition and challenging Matt Carkner for the team's hardest shot.
Greening, a 24-year-old forward from St. John's, N.L., who made his NHL debut on Feb. 1 and has played three career games, upstaged defenceman Erik Karlsson after Karlsson's lap of 13.700 seconds around the ice broke Antoine Vermette's old team record of 13.709. Greening went next and did it in 13.665 seconds.
"I thought Erik was going to get the that, for sure," Greening said. "When I saw I was next, I was just like, 'Don't get embarrassed."
Greening then fired a slapshot at 100.5 miles per hour, topped only by Carkner's 101.1 miles per hour. His performance earned the moniker of "Usain Bolt" from Spezza.
"He's the fastest man alive," Spezza quipped.
Here is the Sens write up
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=553672&cmpid=rss-brodie
and an interview with Colin about the skills competition
http://video.senators.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=1141&id=99120
via http://www.ecachockey.com/men/members/cornell/20112102_GreeningSkillsBlastSensWeb
A friend in ATX sent me this email. Nice event but I thought it was interesting considering Sawada's been IR since 2/3.... unless I missed something?
(original email sent 2/21)
The Cornell Club of Austin would like to invite you and your guests to join your fellow alumni as we cheer on fellow Cornellian Raymond Sawada '08 and the Texas Stars as they take on the Houston Aeros on Saturday, March 5th at the Cedar Park Arena!
A quick bio: Raymond Sawada played all 4 years at Cornell (with 2 NCAA appearances) before being drafted in the 2nd round to the Dallas Stars organization. Last year, Ray and the Texas Stars made their incredible run to the Calder Cup finals. To top off his pro resume, he has played 5 regular games with the Dallas Stars, scoring a goal in his NHL debut!
Now for the event details:
To buy tickets, call: Rebekah Hurley @ 512-600-5011 or rhurley@texasstarshockey.com (see attached flyer).
You can purchase your tickets through the Stars representative and they will place them at the will-call booth under your name. Be sure to tell them you're with the Cornell Alumni group to get the quoted rate and be seated together.
There will be an early dinner around 4pm. The location is TBD and we'll get those details out to you as soon as they're finalized.
From there, we can leave our cars at the parking lot and carpool over to the Cedar Park Arena, arriving around 5:45PM where we will participate in the "Ride the Bench" activity where we will SIT ON THE BENCH while both teams warm up. (disclaimer) There will be minimal protection from flying pucks that come towards the bench so please keep that in mind! This activity is optional and is limited to 20 people.
The game itself starts at 7pm.
Keep in mind that each car costs $10 for parking so I highly encourage everyone to carpool. If you are not joining us for the pre-grame event, please note that there will be a lot of traffic getting to the Arena so the sooner you get to the arena, the better.
Please RSVP as soon as possible to Peter Wang at pw33@cornell.edu or call/text 713-302-3412 and cite whether you will be joining us for dinner and the pre-game activity. There are only 30 tickets and 20 spaces on the "Ride the Bench" event so first come, first serve.
Cornell has a proud hockey tradition, being ECAC 2010 champs with regular appearances to the NCAA tournament. Its great to see Cornell and such a talented hockey team as the Texas Stars come together right here in Austin! So come out and support your fellow Cornellian and the Stars!
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: jtwcornell91Quote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: ftyuvQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jim HylaQuote from: TrotskyQuote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Quote from: TrotskyQuote from: nshapiroWas there a brief period of time with 7 Cornell players on NHL rosters?
For the year we're up to 8 (http://www.tbrw.info/players/cornell_NHL_by_Year.html). Not sure about simultaneity.
Bitz is still listed on the Florida roster, even if he's on IR. Officially, it should be 9.
Well this brings up a philosophical issue. I have been using "dressed for a game" as the rule. Another standard would be "played in a game," another would be "was on the roster" (is this like the 50-man roster in baseball).
I dunno, what do others think? What's the appropriate metric for measuring a Cornell presence in the NHL?
Getting paid as an NHLer. If he's paid NHL wages being on the roster, he should be listed as in the NHL. I suspect if he's paid, it's the NHL club that counts him as an expense.
Bobby Bonilla's going to get paid as a Met until 2025... but he also isn't on the roster.
Also, I meant "40-man roster."
But aside from injuries, does that happen in the NHL?
IM(very)HO, it should be "dressed for a game." Being on the roster but not dressed essentially means you're the next one to be in the NHL, but you're not quite there yet -- maybe not as far as payroll is concerned, but as far as the fans, announcers, and probably the coach is concerned. And probably the player's mom, too. :-)
So what about if you're injured?
I was addressing when you start being an NHL player. What you're asking concerns how you stop being an NHL player, which is a different question in my mind. But just to cover all the basis... if you were going to dress for your first NHL game, but got injured in the morning practice and had to sit out the game, then sadly, I would say you haven't yet been in the NHL. Very close, but not quite there.
This brings up the question of Jason Elliott's Stanley Cup...
I know he got to carry it but I'm pretty sure his name wasn't engraved on the plate. I think the rule there is that you have to skate. I'm pretty sure the #2 goalie didn't get his name on the cup either.
Generally, to get your name on the Stanley Cup as a player, you have to play 41 games with the team during the regular season, or one game during the Stanley Cup Finals (http://www.nhl.com/cup/fun_facts.html). I believe in this context "play in" means "dress for"; for example, this close-up view of the engraving for the 2000-01 Colorado Avalanche (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/StanleyCupAvs2000-01Engraved.jpg) includes David Aebischer (ninth row, far left), who played 26 games as Patrick Roy's backup (http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0006902001.html) but presumably was dressed and on the bench for significantly more than the 41-game threshold. (Aebischer did play in one game in the playoffs, but not in the finals.) I looked for Elliott's name last time I saw the Cup and it is not engraved.
Quote from: Willy '06In baseball it's really the 25-man roster. You can be on the 40-man roster and never get out of the minor leagues.
Well, I was thinking the 40-man because of IR, but your point is taken.
Moulson gets his 27th of the year against the Maple Leafs; he collected a bouncing puck from the point and easily put it into an open net.
Quote from: kingpin248Moulson gets his 27th of the year against the Maple Leafs; he collected a bouncing puck from the point and easily put it into an open net.
They are going to interview him again between periods, coming up shortly... msg +
Dare I say............en fuego
Moulson now tied for 9th in goal scoring for the season (http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20112ALLSASAll&sort=goals&viewName=goals) (the list doesn't reflect tonight's goal)
Quote from: scoop85Moulson now tied for 9th in goal scoring for the season (http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20112ALLSASAll&sort=goals&viewName=goals) (the list doesn't reflect tonight's goal)
I hope he cools off for Thursday night, and then heats up again. ::whistle::
Greening got his first NHL point, an assist on Bobby Butler's first period goal.
EDIT: Finished with one assist, +2, 14:03 of ice time, including 1:49 on the powerplay and 6 seconds on the penalty kill.
Quote from: Ronald '09Greening got his first NHL point, an assist on Bobby Butler's first period goal.
EDIT: Finished with one assist, +2, 14:03 of ice time, including 1:49 on the powerplay and 6 seconds on the penalty kill.
Here is the link for the video of Colin's assist (http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2010020903). Colin did a very nice job holding onto to the puck until he could make a nice pass to Butler.
EDIT: The Florida Panthers TV broadcast crew interviewed Colin during the second intermission. A very good interview; Colin is so well-spoken. He mentioned how this call-up is easier than his first in that several guys on the team now were teammates of his in Binghamton. He said that rapport he has with these guys makes it easier.
I'll look tomorrow to see if the interview gets posted on the panther website.
According to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.
Quote from: RitaAccording to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.
Ouch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEyQ59sIp0
Quote from: nr53Quote from: RitaAccording to the TSN announcers, Ryan O'Byrne got cut by an Edmonton skate (Taylor Hall's) in the first period of tonight's game and he has yet to return. I didn't see the play and I'm not sure how serious it is.
Ouch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEyQ59sIp0
O'Byrne Update (http://avalanche.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=554027&navid=DL%7CCOL%7Chome)
"Avalanche defenseman Ryan O'Byrne wasn't at practice Thursday, one day after suffering a facial laceration in Colorado's game against Edmonton.
The blueliner is expected to miss between seven and ten days due to the injury, which required approximately 100 stitches to be administered at a local hospital.
About four minutes into Wednesday's contest, O'Byrne was behind Colorado's net when the skate of Edmonton rookie Taylor Hall shot up and caught him in the cheek. Although bleeding profusely, O'Byrne finished his shift before exiting the game and immediately making his way to the locker room."Ouch, double Ouch, and triple Ouch!
If you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Sort of Alumni: Last Sat Ben Scrivens parents sat next to us at the game. By the way they were talking it sounded like Ben would have come to senior night if he hadn't gotten called up. At least they were lamenting that he had to called on senior night. But the real neat thing was seeing where he got his enthusiasm. Almost the first thing his father said was, "Do you guys know the cheers?". They then went on to cheer at every opportunity, Dartmouth penalties, waving their hands, cheering, counting and yelling sieve and it's all your fault after goals, for some. I was amazed. Very easy to talk to them, but I'm sure that's why Ben's helmet was painted as it was.
Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?
I was just on it. It's on the right side of the page under the schedule.
Quote from: Jim HylaSort of Alumni: Last Sat Ben Scrivens parents sat next to us at the game. By the way they were talking it sounded like Ben would have come to senior night if he hadn't gotten called up. At least they were lamenting that he had to called on senior night. But the real neat thing was seeing where he got his enthusiasm. Almost the first thing his father said was, "Do you guys know the cheers?". They then went on to cheer at every opportunity, Dartmouth penalties, waving their hands, cheering, counting and yelling sieve and it's all your fault after goals, for some. I was amazed. Very easy to talk to them, but I'm sure that's why Ben's helmet was painted as it was.
I sat next to them at the regionals. It was very enjoyable. Quoting: He was living the dream. They really appreciated Cornell and the fans.
When converting one of the games to DVD I noticed Ben's dad handling out stuffed animals the night they were tossed for charity. Truly a classy family.
Quote from: Roy 82Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?
It seems to be a PC friendly poll. I couldn't see it on my Mac (when I found it, I was on a PC).
Quote from: RitaQuote from: Roy 82Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?
It seems to be a PC friendly poll. I couldn't see it on my Mac (when I found it, I was on a PC).
I found it on my Mac. I had to refresh the page, there was something else at the bottom the first time.
Quote from: munchkinQuote from: RitaQuote from: Roy 82Quote from: RitaIf you are bored and need something to do especially now that Robb has so nicely worked out Cornell's playoff seeding possibilities, go to the Ottawa Senators' home page and vote for Colin (http://senators.nhl.com/index.html).
On the lower right side of the page is a poll for "which Sens prospect are you most excited about". Colin is at 12% of the vote. Maybe if he scores 2 goals in Buffalo he can get to Bobby Butler's level :-P.
Can't find it anymore. Do you have a direct link?
It seems to be a PC friendly poll. I couldn't see it on my Mac (when I found it, I was on a PC).
I found it on my Mac. I had to refresh the page, there was something else at the bottom the first time.
Is it the Home Hardware Fan Poll? If so, I have a blank under it.
Not a Cornell alum, but you may find this Hugh Jessiman article interesting, particularly its title:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Florida-Panthers-are-ruining-most-of-our-Hugh-Je?urn=nhl-326978
Greening picks up an assist in the Sens win against Philly Saturday night (on a nice cycle play behind the net).
Also a "Who are these guys?" comment from the Flyers announcers ::crazy::
Greening was sent back down today.
Not surprising: Dartmouth man takes eight years to graduate, this time to the NHL.
Greening called back up today. He thought it was a joke that he was playing on the NHL Sens top line:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=356009
Quote from: ebilmesGreening called back up today. He thought it was a joke that he was playing on the NHL Sens top line:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=356009
After the moves the Sens made, there will be a long process of rebuilding their organization. They traded Kovalev, Ruutu, and Fisher, while only claiming a mediocre Svatos on waivers. I expect Greening (and Butler and Locke) will likely see significant NHL time going forward.