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Title: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 26, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
Here's the link: http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/1/26/MICE_0126112306.aspx

I, unfortunately, get an error every time I try to submit my vote.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Robb on January 26, 2011, 05:35:26 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioHere's the link: http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/1/26/MICE_0126112306.aspx

I, unfortunately, get an error every time I try to submit my vote.
I, too.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 26, 2011, 08:58:42 PM
So I won't try yet. However I'm not optimistic about the voting. For example, look at my favorite, 14. Do you think Dan Lodboa can beat out Riley Nash? Not I, but for what he did for CU hockey, there is no comparison. Start up the obligatory, this is the favorite not the best or most significant, talk. I know, I guess it's why I don't like fan voting, myself included.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Josh '99 on January 26, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
Someone should tell them it's "Rick" Sacchetti and not "Rich".

Also, the voting does seem to work properly now.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 26, 2011, 10:26:44 PM
Yes, it works now. Seems to me John Hughes wasn't on the ballot the first time I tried, and he's an important addition.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: jkahn on January 26, 2011, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioYes, it works now. Seems to me John Hughes wasn't on the ballot the first time I tried, and he's an important addition.
John changed numbers each season, 10, 20 and then 21, so he could be listed three times.  There were several others back then who also switched when a number they liked more opened up, e.g. Cornell, McGuinn, Pettit, McCutcheon, Fullan.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 27, 2011, 09:50:50 AM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Al DeFlorioYes, it works now. Seems to me John Hughes wasn't on the ballot the first time I tried, and he's an important addition.
John changed numbers each season, 10, 20 and then 21, so he could be listed three times.  There were several others back then who also switched when a number they liked more opened up, e.g. Cornell, McGuinn, Pettit, McCutcheon, Fullan.
According to a mass email from Mike Schafer this morning, John Hughes, Bruce Pattison, and Murray Death (now Deathe) were late additions to the list.

Cornell's two-time All-Americans were:  Brian Cornell, Ken Dryden (three-time), Doug Ferguson, Doug Murray, Lance Nethery, Joe Nieuwendyk, Bruce Pattison, and Dan Ratushny.  Unfortunately, Murray and Nethery both wore number 6.:-/
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: RatushnyFan on January 27, 2011, 11:06:02 AM
Curious why they didn't simply list everyone.  I would have voted for some hard working 4 year lettermen who didn't make the list who I admired during my Cornell days (Phil Nobel, Stephane Gauvin, Karl Williams, Marc Deschamps).  I doubt that it would change the end results.  In any event, it was fun to go through the voting process!
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: marty on January 27, 2011, 11:38:15 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Al DeFlorioYes, it works now. Seems to me John Hughes wasn't on the ballot the first time I tried, and he's an important addition.
John changed numbers each season, 10, 20 and then 21, so he could be listed three times.  There were several others back then who also switched when a number they liked more opened up, e.g. Cornell, McGuinn, Pettit, McCutcheon, Fullan.
According to a mass email from Mike Schafer this morning, John Hughes, Bruce Pattison, and Murray Death (now Deathe) were late additions to the list.

Cornell's two-time All-Americans were:  Brian Cornell, Ken Dryden (three-time), Doug Ferguson, Doug Murray, Lance Nethery, Joe Nieuwendyk, Bruce Pattison, and Dan Ratushny.  Unfortunately, Murray and Nethery both wore number 6.:-/

I can't vote for my favorite #6 who was team captain in 1974-75.
(http://elf.elynah.com/addon.php?1,module=embed_images,url=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy38%2Fmartytoo%2FHockey%2Fdave3.jpg)

Dave Peace reunited with his jersey at the Plum Blossum in Troy.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Jim Hyla on January 27, 2011, 03:17:26 PM
Quote from: Josh '99Someone should tell them it's "Rick" Sacchetti and not "Rich".

Also, the voting does seem to work properly now.
And this: "Stephen Bâby (1986-87 - 1989-90)"
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 27, 2011, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Josh '99Someone should tell them it's "Rick" Sacchetti and not "Rich".

Also, the voting does seem to work properly now.
And this: "Stephen Bâby (1986-87 - 1989-90)"
Dunno, Jim.  It's starting to seem like it was that long ago.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Chris '03 on February 08, 2011, 07:42:23 PM
The results of the vote have been released.  

Fan Favorites By Number
1 - Ken Dryden            
2 - Dan Ratushny    
3 - Mike Schafer    
4 - Gordon Lowe    
5 - Justin Krueger    
6 - Douglas Murray    
7 - Brock Tredway    
8 - Ryan Vesce          
9 - Brian McCutcheon    
10 - John Hughes    
11 - Mitch Carefoot    
12 - Raymond Sawada    
14 - Riley Nash    
15 - Colin Greening    
16 - Greg Hornby    
17 - Doug Derraugh    
18 - Murray Death
19 - Chris Abbott
20 - Casey Jones
21 - Stephen Bâby
22 - Dan Glover
23 - Jeremy Downs
24 - Matt Moulson
25 - Joe Nieuwendyk
26 - Topher Scott
27 - Blake Gallagher
28 - Joe Scali
29 - Byron Bitz
30 - Ben Scrivens
31 - David LeNeveu
33 - Andy Iles
35 - Mike Garman

The auction is now open on each jersey. By my (very quick) count 21 of 32 are players from the last 7-10 years.

http://cornellbigred.com/news/2011/2/8/MICE_0208113810.aspx
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 08, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
Quote from: Chris '03The results of the vote have been released.  

Fan Favorites By Number
1 - Ken Dryden            
2 - Dan Ratushny    
3 - Mike Schafer    
4 - Gordon Lowe    
5 - Justin Krueger    
6 - Douglas Murray    
7 - Brock Tredway    
8 - Ryan Vesce          
9 - Brian McCutcheon    
10 - John Hughes    
11 - Mitch Carefoot    
12 - Raymond Sawada    
14 - Riley Nash    
15 - Colin Greening    
16 - Greg Hornby    
17 - Doug Derraugh    
18 - Murray Death
19 - Chris Abbott
20 - Casey Jones
21 - Stephen Bâby
22 - Dan Glover
23 - Jeremy Downs
24 - Matt Moulson
25 - Joe Nieuwendyk
26 - Topher Scott
27 - Blake Gallagher
28 - Joe Scali
29 - Byron Bitz
30 - Ben Scrivens
31 - David LeNeveu
33 - Andy Iles
35 - Mike Garman

The auction is now open on each jersey. By my (very quick) count 21 of 32 are players from the last 7-10 years.

http://cornellbigred.com/news/2011/2/8/MICE_0208113810.aspx
Ugh.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Beeeej on February 08, 2011, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: munchkin on February 08, 2011, 09:24:33 PM
Are we surprised? The people doing the bidding and knowing to go on the Cornell Athletics page are people who have been watching, for the most part, only the last 7-10 years of the team.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Trotsky on February 09, 2011, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Give My Regards on February 09, 2011, 10:01:21 AM
Still bugs me that I couldn't vote for my favorite #39 ever, Eddy Skazyk.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Beeeej on February 09, 2011, 10:20:02 AM
It seems pretty dumb to me that they're only going to update the page with leading bids every two days (until the last day, when they'll conduct bidding by e-mail).  They'll probably have a dozen $150 bids on each jersey in the first two days, when they could have had bidding up to $200 or more by updating it every few hours - or by using an algorithm that would update the bids automatically.  It can't be that difficult.*

*...said the English major.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Robb on February 09, 2011, 12:32:14 PM
Quote from: BeeeejIt seems pretty dumb to me that they're only going to update the page with leading bids every two days (until the last day, when they'll conduct bidding by e-mail).  They'll probably have a dozen $150 bids on each jersey in the first two days, when they could have had bidding up to $200 or more by updating it every few hours - or by using an algorithm that would update the bids automatically.  It can't be that difficult.*

*...said the English major.
Why don't they just put them up on eBay?*

*...said the non-lawyer
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Beeeej on February 09, 2011, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: RobbWhy don't they just put them up on eBay?*

*...said the non-lawyer

Presumably, eBay would charge a listing fee and a percentage of the final price for each jersey - and also wouldn't allow an auction that's nearly four weeks long.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 09, 2011, 05:14:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
Yeah, but still sad to me that they are using '67 sweaters, without many of the '67 stars. Now, that may be important to me since I saw that '67 team, but...
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Trotsky on February 09, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaYeah, but still sad to me that they are using '67 sweaters, without many of the '67 stars. Now, that may be important to me since I saw that '67 team, but...
Anything that helps scour away the memory of this year's cheap knock-off jerseys is a Good Thing.

(http://www.ecachockey.com/images/men/Top_50_Players/Ken-Dryden.gif?max_width=360)

Is the old font a little more squared off?
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: jkahn on February 09, 2011, 05:53:07 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaYeah, but still sad to me that they are using '67 sweaters, without many of the '67 stars. Now, that may be important to me since I saw that '67 team, but...
Anything that helps scour away the memory of this year's cheap knock-off jerseys is a Good Thing.

(http://www.ecachockey.com/images/men/Top_50_Players/Ken-Dryden.gif?max_width=360)

Is the old font a little more squared off?
Actually, I noticed awhile back that this year's reds are like the '67's, with white on the bottom rather than red below the white, so I've been fine with the red uniforms.  The white on the other hand is BU and we should not be wearing those.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 09, 2011, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: TrotskyIs the old font a little more squared off?
Yes.Sans serif, too.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Josh '99 on February 09, 2011, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
It doesn't even purport to be an all-time team, rather a list of "favorites".  The polling was going to be subjective and subject to recency bias no matter what they called it, so at least they picked a name that builds the subjectivity right in.  Doesn't seem worth getting agitated over to me, and I say that as someone who didn't overlap as an undergrad with ANY of the guys who were listed.  (As far as I can figure, there's nobody between Dan Ratushny and the guys from the class of 2003, i.e. nobody from the 1996 and 1997 ECAC championship teams.)
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Jim Hyla on February 09, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
It doesn't even purport to be an all-time team, rather a list of "favorites".  The polling was going to be subjective and subject to recency bias no matter what they called it, so at least they picked a name that builds the subjectivity right in.  Doesn't seem worth getting agitated over to me, and I say that as someone who didn't overlap as an undergrad with ANY of the guys who were listed.  (As far as I can figure, there's nobody between Dan Ratushny and the guys from the class of 2003, i.e. nobody from the 1996 and 1997 ECAC championship teams.)
Who is agitated?
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Josh '99 on February 09, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
It doesn't even purport to be an all-time team, rather a list of "favorites".  The polling was going to be subjective and subject to recency bias no matter what they called it, so at least they picked a name that builds the subjectivity right in.  Doesn't seem worth getting agitated over to me, and I say that as someone who didn't overlap as an undergrad with ANY of the guys who were listed.  (As far as I can figure, there's nobody between Dan Ratushny and the guys from the class of 2003, i.e. nobody from the 1996 and 1997 ECAC championship teams.)
Who is agitated?
Maybe "agitated" was the wrong word; "Ugh." would seem to suggest that Al is at least...  irked?
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 09, 2011, 08:42:23 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Al DeFlorioUgh.

Guess you should've organized your contemporaries a little better.  :)  In all seriousness, the bidding is likely going to go pretty much the same way as the voting, so it's probably just as well.
Good point.  The idea is to maximize revenue, not pick the real all-time team by number.
It doesn't even purport to be an all-time team, rather a list of "favorites".  The polling was going to be subjective and subject to recency bias no matter what they called it, so at least they picked a name that builds the subjectivity right in.  Doesn't seem worth getting agitated over to me, and I say that as someone who didn't overlap as an undergrad with ANY of the guys who were listed.  (As far as I can figure, there's nobody between Dan Ratushny and the guys from the class of 2003, i.e. nobody from the 1996 and 1997 ECAC championship teams.)
Who is agitated?
Maybe "agitated" was the wrong word; "Ugh." would seem to suggest that Al is at least...  irked?
Yes, "agitated" was, not surprisingly, an overstatement.  I wouldn't say "irked" is accurate, either.  I'm just disappointed with the list.  That's all.  I suspect others of my era are, too.  And I'm not convinced that bidders from the classes of '00 through '10 will be more generous in their offers than those from the '60s and '70s would have been, so that argument seems spurious to me.

Where Josh was right was in saying the outcome of the voting was predictable, as Jim Hyla's prescient posting back on January 26 demonstrates.  Being predictable doesn't mean an "ugh" isn't an appropriate response from some of us who've seen all those players on the ice.  With that, I think we've wasted enough time and space on this.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Josh '99 on February 09, 2011, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioYes, "agitated" was, not surprisingly, an overstatement.  I wouldn't say "irked" is accurate, either.  I'm just disappointed with the list.  That's all.  I suspect others of my era are, too.  And I'm not convinced that bidders from the classes of '00 through '10 will be more generous in their offers than those from the '60s and '70s would have been, so that argument seems spurious to me.
Sorry if I misunderstood; didn't mean to put words in your mouth, of course.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Beeeej on February 14, 2011, 03:27:05 PM
Nieuwendyk's and Dryden's jerseys currently lead the bidding, at $500 and $300 respectively.  Several more recent players are still at the $125 starting bid.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Rosey on February 14, 2011, 04:22:42 PM
Quote from: BeeeejNieuwendyk's and Dryden's jerseys currently lead the bidding, at $500 and $300 respectively.  Several more recent players are still at the $125 starting bid.
Just like with EBay, it's pointless to bid until the very end of bidding.  I am waiting.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: French Rage on February 14, 2011, 05:31:24 PM
NO ONE ELSE BID ON VESCE DAMMIT!
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: RatushnyFan on February 14, 2011, 06:46:34 PM
Hmmm.......went to Cornell and in the Bay Area........are you secretly trying to push bidding traffic to Vesce so that you can buy Douglas' jersey on the cheap?

[crack!] Homie don't play dat.
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: Beeeej on February 28, 2011, 05:27:28 PM
There are still some bargains to be had in the online bidding, and it's all over in two days.

http://www.cornellbigred.com/sb_output.aspx?form=25
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: TimV on March 02, 2011, 10:38:46 AM
As predicted, bidding heating up in the last 4 hrs of the Auction. Interesting that at the last notice
Iles' jersey had a bid $90 more than Garman's.  Hope it doesn't get into Mike's head:-). Both were higher than Scali, Bitz, Scrivens, and Scott.  Nieuwendyk and Dryden both at $1000. ::whistle::
Title: Re: Vote for your favorite hockey player by jersey number
Post by: RatushnyFan on March 02, 2011, 02:06:16 PM
Somebody blew me out of the water with a Ratushny bid.  Wow.

EDIT - Dan ($1,300) went for more than Nieuwendyk ($1,000)......wasn't expecting that.