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Title: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: scoop85 on December 10, 2010, 10:58:16 PM
Florida QB chooses Cornell (http://fletcherfootball.com/) over a number of Ivies and I-A Florida Atlantic
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on December 10, 2010, 11:34:05 PM
Sam Wood's highlight reel is on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPjc7TxnKks)  He passes, runs, and punts.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on December 11, 2010, 08:55:08 AM
You can find other Cornell football recruits at:  http://www.voy.com/152805/
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on December 11, 2010, 03:21:04 PM
Sam's highlights reel runs 10 minutes. That alone could be a good sign.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on December 11, 2010, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: billhowardSam's highlights reel runs 10 minutes. That alone could be a good sign.
It's hard to tell, but it could have been every run for positive yards, every complete pass, and every punt for the whole season.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on December 13, 2010, 06:41:15 PM
Cornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 13, 2010, 10:27:46 PM
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on December 14, 2010, 02:02:20 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Wow.  No disrespect at all to Sam Wood, but that is one helluva bio.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on December 14, 2010, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Wow.  No disrespect at all to Sam Wood, but that is one helluva bio.

Well, it was GARY Wood who was voted "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback" (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm). Since I never saw him or George Pfann play, I can't comment on the comparison. But I can say with some confidence that SAM Wood (http://fletcherfootball.com/) never played a game for the Big Red.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on December 14, 2010, 04:03:14 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Wow.  No disrespect at all to Sam Wood, but that is one helluva bio.

Well, it was GARY Wood who was voted "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback" (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm). Since I never saw him or George Pfann play, I can't comment on the comparison. But I can say with some confidence that SAM Wood (http://fletcherfootball.com/) never played a game for the Big Red.
1. We all make mistakes.
2. Blow me.
3. Merry Xmas.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on December 15, 2010, 03:08:38 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Wow.  No disrespect at all to Sam Wood, but that is one helluva bio.

Well, it was GARY Wood who was voted "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback" (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm). Since I never saw him or George Pfann play, I can't comment on the comparison. But I can say with some confidence that SAM Wood (http://fletcherfootball.com/) never played a game for the Big Red.
1. We all make mistakes.
2. Blow me.
3. Merry Xmas.

The first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Ho, ho, ho.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 16, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: SwampyCornell's had pretty good luck with quarterbacks named "Wood." Wouldn't it be a kick if Sam Wood is somehow related to Gary Wood '64 (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm)?

Given Cornell's glorious football history, albeit in the dark, distant past, Sam could do a lot worse than following in the footsteps of "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback."::cheer::
George Pfann?

http://www.sae-cornell.org/public1.asp
Wow.  No disrespect at all to Sam Wood, but that is one helluva bio.

Well, it was GARY Wood who was voted "Cornell's greatest-ever quarterback" (http://classof64.alumni.cornell.edu/classmates/wood.htm). Since I never saw him or George Pfann play, I can't comment on the comparison. But I can say with some confidence that SAM Wood (http://fletcherfootball.com/) never played a game for the Big Red.
1. We all make mistakes.
2. Blow me.
3. Merry Xmas.

The first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Ho, ho, ho.

Once is happenstance.  Twice is coincidence.  The third time it's enemy action.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on December 16, 2010, 03:18:32 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: SwampyThe first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Ho, ho, ho.

Once is happenstance.  Twice is coincidence.  The third time it's enemy action.
One is a tragedy.  But to lose two looks like carelessness.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on December 17, 2010, 07:46:56 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: SwampyThe first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Ho, ho, ho.

Once is happenstance.  Twice is coincidence.  The third time it's enemy action.
One is a tragedy.  But to lose two looks like carelessness.

Had to look it up, but I like it.  :-)

"The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of millions is a statistic."
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Roy 82 on December 18, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: SwampyThe first time is tragedy, the second is farce. Ho, ho, ho.

Once is happenstance.  Twice is coincidence.  The third time it's enemy action.
One is a tragedy.  But to lose two looks like carelessness.

Had to look it up, but I like it.  :-)

"The death of one man is a tragedy, but the death of millions is a statistic."

There are a lot of powerful quotes like that. In 1984 there was a parody of the New York Post that was put out with a headline describing a fictional nuclear attack starting World War III that read:
KABOOM! Michael Jackson, 80 million others dead."
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: scoop85 on January 09, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
Seems like football is recruiting some quality talent.  Tyler Betros (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=156525) a safety/LB from Jacksonville Bolles HS has won back-to-back FL state championships in football and baseball.  I wonder if he's going to try to play both sports at Cornell.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on January 09, 2011, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: scoop85Seems like football is recruiting some quality talent.  Tyler Betros (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=156525) a safety/LB from Jacksonville Bolles HS has won back-to-back FL state championships in football and baseball.  I wonder if he's going to try to play both sports at Cornell.

The "which won it's second state"! And this on the web page of what's apparently an affiliate of both ABC and NBC!::doh::
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on January 10, 2011, 11:27:47 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: scoop85Seems like football is recruiting some quality talent.  Tyler Betros (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=156525) a safety/LB from Jacksonville Bolles HS has won back-to-back FL state championships in football and baseball.  I wonder if he's going to try to play both sports at Cornell.

The "which won it's second state"! And this on the web page of what's apparently an affiliate of both ABC and NBC!::doh::
Like you need to spell to be on TV. At least it's not our recruit who wrote that. BTW does the still frame (?) image look like widescreen squashed to 4:3? Taylor Betros looks like he's on the Calista Flockhart diet.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on January 20, 2011, 12:41:06 PM
Scoop I agree, it appears Coach Austin is recruiting some outstanding players and winning some recruiting battles.  With the right coach, I know of no reason why we can't win in football too.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Rosey on January 21, 2011, 08:51:34 AM
Quote from: CASScoop I agree, it appears Coach Austin is recruiting some outstanding players and winning some recruiting battles.  With the right coach, I know of no reason why we can't win in football too.
Then Cornell can truly become a god among insects.

Sorry, it was about time for my yearly trolling re: Ivy League football.  See you next year. ;-)
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on January 21, 2011, 09:46:21 PM
Dylan Ledet - 6'0" 215 FB from Thibodaux (La.)

Cornell recruit (http://www.voy.com/152805/84038.html)
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on January 21, 2011, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: Ken711Dylan Ledet - 6'0" 215 FB from Thibodaux (La.)

Cornell recruit (http://www.voy.com/152805/84038.html)
These guys (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=19515781) say he scored 33 on the ACT and squats 600 pounds.  Someone suggested that he ought to go to LSU and raise the average ACT of the team to 19.  From comments elsewhere, it looks as though he is purely a runner and will need to work on blocking.  Encouraging YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3lHhGxhJc) video.  Some of his long gains come from big holes in the line, but others are brute force and persistence.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 21, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
Quote from: Ken711Dylan Ledet - 6'0" 215 FB from Thibodaux (La.)

Cornell recruit (http://www.voy.com/152805/84038.html)
Now Austin has to find five 300-pounders who can block.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on January 21, 2011, 10:23:19 PM
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ken711Dylan Ledet - 6'0" 215 FB from Thibodaux (La.)

Cornell recruit (http://www.voy.com/152805/84038.html)
These guys (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=19515781) say he scored 33 on the ACT and squats 600 pounds.  Someone suggested that he ought to go to LSU and raise the average ACT of the team to 19.  From comments elsewhere, it looks as though he is purely a runner and will need to work on blocking.  Encouraging YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3lHhGxhJc) video.  Some of his long gains come from big holes in the line, but others are brute force and persistence.

I think he's being viewed as a lead blocker/fullback type which is something the running game needs.  I also hope Cornell's recruiting class brings in some much needed size on the OL and DL.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 02, 2011, 05:45:44 PM
A partial list of football commits was posted on the Ivy League Sports Board. http://www.voy.com/152805/84539.html

Don Pavlov, 6'1", 225 , LB,  St. Edwards OH
Taylor Betros 6'0", 210, LB, Jacksonville, FL
Shane McManamon, 6'1" 275, DT, St. Edwards, OH
Fiaalii Togiaso, 6'1", 275, DT, La Jolla, CA
Andrew Nelson,  6'1", 185, DB, Detroit Catholic Central, MI
Michael Turner, 6'0", 190. DB, Baltimore, MD
Dabness Atkins, 5'8", 175, DB, Long Beach, CA
Peter McDonough, 6'2", 195, DB, Darien, CT
Javier Rodriguez, 5'10", 175, WR, Belen Jesuit Prep, FL
Brian Canavan, 5'10", 185, WR, Scottsdale Notre Dame Prep, AZ
Andrew Boseman, 6'2", 195, WR, Brandywine, MD
Lucas Shapiro, 6'3", 202, WR, De La Salle, CA
Kyle Osborn, 6'5", 300, OT, Tuttle, OK
Curtis Arndt, 6'4", 275, Moorpark, CA
Dylan Ledet, 6'0", 215, FB, Thibodaux, LA
Andrew Hausmann, 5'10", 185, RB/WR, Rosemount, MN
Cole Parker, 6'2", 185, QB, Valdosta, GA
Sam Wood, 6'5", 215, QB, Neptune Beach, FL
Guy Cook, 6'1", 210, DE/LB, St. Joseph's Prep, PA
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on February 02, 2011, 06:16:41 PM
Appears that Coach Austin and staff are logging a lot of miles in putting together this class.
Of this partial list, more players are from California and Florida than any other state [3 each].
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 02, 2011, 06:30:32 PM
Recruit Shane McManamon is following in the footsteps of his late brother Jamie McManamon in coming to Cornell.  Jamie was tragically killed in an auto accident following his freshman year at Cornell back in 2004.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on February 02, 2011, 08:51:39 PM
Quote from: Ken711Recruit Shane McManamon is following in the footsteps of his late brother Jamie McManamon in coming to Cornell.  Jamie was tragically killed in an auto accident following his freshman year at Cornell back in 2004.
The Cleveland Plain Dealer (http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/index.ssf/2010/12/with_a_winning_legacy_behind_t.html) wrote at length about Jamie's and Shane's leadership on the occasion of Shane's team winning the state championship in December.  
Quote"We're playing for all the great players here who never got a chance to play for state or never won it," said one of the St. Edward captains, Shane McManamon.

They were also playing for the memory of Shane's brother, Jamie.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on February 03, 2011, 01:10:48 PM
Thanks for posting the touching story re Jamie and Shane McManamon.
Looking forward to better days ahead for Big Red football.  In Coach Austin [and Schafer] we trust!
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on February 03, 2011, 01:38:58 PM
Coach Austin seems to have had good success recruiting in the south.  Also impressed that 3 recruits hail from Brooklyn!
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 03, 2011, 04:51:57 PM
For pure speed check out these incoming Cornell recruits.

Ryan Ur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5eThZBTe5g


Javier Rodriguez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrEWz8v2k1E&feature=related
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: ugarte on February 03, 2011, 05:02:24 PM
Quote from: CASimpressed that 3 recruits hail from Brooklyn!
Where do you see that?
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 03, 2011, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: CASimpressed that 3 recruits hail from Brooklyn!
Where do you see that?

It's discussed in the thread in the OP's link. 3 players from Brooklyn Poly Prep.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 03, 2011, 05:45:20 PM
Updated added some deleted one recruit who went to Air Force instead:

Don Pavlov, 6'1", 225 , LB,  St. Edwards OH
Taylor Betros 6'0", 210, LB, Jacksonville, FL
Shane McManamon, 6'1" 275, DT, St. Edwards, OH
Fiaalii Togiaso, 6'1", 275, DT, La Jolla, CA
Andrew Nelson,  6'1", 185, DB, Detroit Catholic Central, MI
Michael Turner, 6'0", 190. DB, Baltimore, MD
Aaron Hancock, 5'9", 165, DB, Charlotte, NC
Peter McDonough, 6'2", 195, DB, Darien, CT
Javier Rodriguez, 5'10", 175, WR, Belen Jesuit Prep, FL
Brian Canavan, 5'10", 185, WR, Scottsdale Notre Dame Prep, AZ
Andrew Boseman, 6'2", 195, WR, Brandywine, MD
Lucas Shapiro, 6'3", 202, WR, De La Salle, CA
Kyle Osborn, 6'5", 300, OT, Tuttle, OK
Curtis Arndt, 6'4", 275, Moorpark, CA
Dylan Ledet, 6'0", 215, FB, Thibodaux, LA
Andrew Hausmann, 5'10", 185, RB/WR, Rosemount, MN
Cole Parker, 6'2", 185, QB, Valdosta, GA
Sam Wood, 6'5", 215, QB, Neptune Beach, FL
Guy Cook, 6'1", 210, DE/LB, St. Joseph's Prep, PA
Ryan Pearce, 6'4" 260, OG/DT, Poly Prep, NY
Rush Miller,  6'3",  190, S, Poly Prep, NY
Cadell  Williams, 6'1", 275, DL, Poly Prep, NY
Alex Lavrentios, 6'5",  275, OL, Salisbury Prep and Nedham, MA
Jordan Richardson, 6'2', 290, DL, Athens Academy, GA
Sawyer Pettit,  6'3", 220, LB, Gilmer,  GA
Ryan Ur,  6'0", 175, WR/DB, Laguna Hills, CA
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on February 18, 2011, 12:16:30 PM
I assume many others have also received Andy Noel's recent email about football's "most amazing recruiting class in years".
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 18, 2011, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: CASI assume many others have also received Andy Noel's recent email about football's "most amazing recruiting class in years".
Not all of us.  What did Andy say?
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on February 18, 2011, 04:31:33 PM
http://www.voy.com/152805/
I dont know what the email was but there has been a lot of enthusiasm for the recruiting class on the football board
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 23, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: CASI assume many others have also received Andy Noel's recent email about football's "most amazing recruiting class in years".

Did it describe the size of the class, what else did it say?
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on February 23, 2011, 11:14:24 PM
Andy's letter unfortunately didn't provide any details about the class.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on February 24, 2011, 12:08:06 AM
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: CASI assume many others have also received Andy Noel's recent email about football's "most amazing recruiting class in years".

Did it describe the size of the class, what else did it say?
Those details typically come in May or June, after the candidates have accepted the official offers of admissions and the deadlines for accepting offers at comparable schools have passed.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on February 24, 2011, 08:04:31 AM
Are the Ivy classes rated anywhere similar to those ubiquitous ratings of D-1 classes (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all)?  Not to be snarky, but do Ivy recruits register on the national recruiting scene at all?

It would be very interesting to see the equivalent of the 4, 3, etc star ratings for our class as compared with our opponents.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on February 25, 2011, 10:57:13 PM
Quote from: TrotskyAre the Ivy classes rated anywhere similar to those ubiquitous ratings of D-1 classes (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all)?  Not to be snarky, but do Ivy recruits register on the national recruiting scene at all?

It would be very interesting to see the equivalent of the 4, 3, etc star ratings for our class as compared with our opponents.

FWIW, you can look a some of the Rival rated recruits for each school.  Harvard and Penn have the most "3 and 2" star recruits in the Ivy League.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/cornell-129
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/harvard-131
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/pennsylvania-132
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on February 26, 2011, 05:36:32 PM
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: TrotskyAre the Ivy classes rated anywhere similar to those ubiquitous ratings of D-1 classes (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2011/all/all)?  Not to be snarky, but do Ivy recruits register on the national recruiting scene at all?

It would be very interesting to see the equivalent of the 4, 3, etc star ratings for our class as compared with our opponents.

FWIW, you can look a some of the Rival rated recruits for each school.  Harvard and Penn have the most "3 and 2" star recruits in the Ivy League.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/cornell-129
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/harvard-131
http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitments/2011/pennsylvania-132

Wow, that's sobering. Maybe the only saving grace is that the lists are incomplete. (No Ur on ours.) Until the lists are final, we won't know if this omission favors us or not.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on February 26, 2011, 06:02:17 PM
That list is far from complete, http://www.voy.com/152805/85394.html
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: mountainred on February 26, 2011, 07:49:52 PM
Incomplete and probably not overly accurate.  The difference between a two star and a three star player is often whether the guy is on the radar of a FBS school.  The difference between a two star and no star is often whether someone shared video with Rivals and if the administrator from some school's board presses the issue.  I've seen more than one kid go from no stars to three the moment WVU offers.

Not saying's Penn and Harvard's classes won't prove to be more talented.  But Rivals is in business to appeal to the rabid fan bases of top 20 football programs.  I'm guessing they lose very sleep ranking Ivy-caliber talent.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on March 17, 2011, 01:56:29 PM
In the spring edition of the Athletics Spirit Magazine, Andy again writes of the recruiting battles we are now winning for football recruits.  Coach Austin does have an impressive coaching background and is a winner.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: RedDog on March 20, 2011, 11:39:39 AM
Austin is flat-out dynamic, has won everywhere he's gone, and there's no doubt in my mind this program will turn the corner, probably sooner than later.....
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 20, 2011, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: CASIn the spring edition of the Athletics Spirit Magazine, Andy again writes of the recruiting battles we are now winning for football recruits.  Coach Austin does have an impressive coaching background and is a winner.

Where is this Athletics spirit magazine? I couldnt find it anywhere on the athletics site, I remember seeing it there last year
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Chris '03 on March 20, 2011, 08:03:39 PM
Quote from: RedDogAustin is flat-out dynamic, has won everywhere he's gone, and there's no doubt in my mind this program will turn the corner, probably sooner than later.....

If I hadn't heard that about the last three(?) coaches who have some and gone, I'd be more excited.

Slightly off topic, one of the best parts of Tim Pendergast's (failed) tenure was the Friday afternoon brown bag lunch series he ran before each home game where he would break down the opponent, go through the CU playbook, tell you what to look for on game day, and give you a real inside look into the program. It would draw a hearty group of maybe 12 fans each week. I don't think any other coach has done anything similar in recent memory. I think I was the only student to ever attend...
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on March 20, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
The spring edition of Spirit was sent to me.  I assume it will be posted shortly to the Cornell website.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 20, 2011, 09:21:31 PM
Quote from: CASThe spring edition of Spirit was sent to me.  I assume it will be posted shortly to the Cornell website.
There was a link to it in a recent email from Athletics.  I read it and deleted the email, so I can't point anyone to it.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 21, 2011, 08:40:30 AM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: CASThe spring edition of Spirit was sent to me.  I assume it will be posted shortly to the Cornell website.
There was a link to it in a recent email from Athletics.  I read it and deleted the email, so I can't point anyone to it.  Sorry.
Managed to find the link after all: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cornelluniv/spirit_2011spring/#/0
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 22, 2011, 01:29:03 AM
Thanks that article was really good news, goes to show you show unfair our league is without scholarships which would equal the playing field across the league
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 28, 2011, 03:52:37 PM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/mar/16/ljcd-and-togiasos-coach-became-his-family/

good article on incoming recruit
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on March 28, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
Thanks phillysportsfan for the great article on a kid it's going to be very easy to root for.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on March 28, 2011, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttp://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/mar/16/ljcd-and-togiasos-coach-became-his-family/

good article on incoming recruit
Who will be on which meal plan?
>>> Vincent Fulchiron, a coach at Preuss, saw football in the future of an eighth-grader who already weighed 270 pounds and stood 5 feet 8. Fulchiron called Hutzler, who's also the athletic director at LJCD, to get [Fiaalii "Junior"] Togiaso into the Torreys' football camps.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 29, 2011, 08:10:36 AM
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttp://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/mar/16/ljcd-and-togiasos-coach-became-his-family/

good article on incoming recruit

I like this kid.  I hope his football skills match his engineering talent.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on March 29, 2011, 09:17:56 AM
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 29, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: ugarte on March 29, 2011, 12:40:15 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Exactly. They didn't say "athletic scholarship" and this kid seems like Cornell's version of The Blind Side.

I hope he can pull off an engineering degree but even if he can't, neither did half of the kids that graduate Cornell with a degree in English.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on March 29, 2011, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Exactly. They didn't say "athletic scholarship" and this kid seems like Cornell's version of The Blind Side.

I hope he can pull off an engineering degree but even if he can't, neither did half of the kids that graduate Cornell with a degree in English.

Besides, I think the half-life for an engineer actually doing engineering is something like five years.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2011, 08:35:41 AM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Exactly. They didn't say "athletic scholarship" and this kid seems like Cornell's version of The Blind Side.

I hope he can pull off an engineering degree but even if he can't, neither did half of the kids that graduate Cornell with a degree in English.

Besides, I think the half-life for an engineer actually doing engineering is something like five years.

Wow, I beat the average.  I've been at it 29 years.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on March 30, 2011, 08:41:41 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Exactly. They didn't say "athletic scholarship" and this kid seems like Cornell's version of The Blind Side.

I hope he can pull off an engineering degree but even if he can't, neither did half of the kids that graduate Cornell with a degree in English.

Besides, I think the half-life for an engineer actually doing engineering is something like five years.

Wow, I beat the average.  I've been at it 29 years.
You Peter Principled early.  ;)
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2011, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Trotsky
QuoteSuch talk would be wasted on Togiaso, who later this year will be a Cornell freshman on full scholarship.

Sigh.
Given his financial situation, I suspect that's an accurate statement.
Exactly. They didn't say "athletic scholarship" and this kid seems like Cornell's version of The Blind Side.

I hope he can pull off an engineering degree but even if he can't, neither did half of the kids that graduate Cornell with a degree in English.

Besides, I think the half-life for an engineer actually doing engineering is something like five years.

Wow, I beat the average.  I've been at it 29 years.
You Peter Principled early.  ;)

I've read The Peter Principle.  It only applies to 80% of the population.  According to the theory, 10% are way too stupid to even have a chance to advance and 10% can't be bothered to play the games that are necessary to advance.  Of course, I like to think that i'm in the latter group ::whistle::

Seriously, I like what I do and I've chosen not to go into management.  I don't like the paperwork, and more importantly I don't feel comfortable telling people something to do something if doing that would conflict with my personal ethics.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on March 30, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I don't feel comfortable telling people something to do something if doing that would conflict with my personal ethics.
It's a good thing Remote Control Goalie doesn't conflict with your ethics, then.  ;)
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 30, 2011, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82I don't feel comfortable telling people something to do something if doing that would conflict with my personal ethics.
It's a good thing Remote Control Goalie doesn't conflict with your ethics, then.  ;)

Bend over!
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on March 30, 2011, 08:43:40 PM
Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: ugarte on March 30, 2011, 09:58:37 PM
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
Should I be worried that Harvard was only recruiting him for track? Otherwise, sounds like a great get.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on March 30, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
Should I be worried that Harvard was only recruiting him for track? Otherwise, sounds like a great get.

Hausmann a very good get for the Big Red.  He's a 2-time all state track star and word is that dissuaded a lot of football offers thinking he would concentrate on track although he was also all state in football.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: RedDog on March 31, 2011, 08:15:14 AM
The need for speed......Cornell's offense just couldn't stretch a defense last year.....
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on March 31, 2011, 08:23:51 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
Should I be worried that Harvard was only recruiting him for track? Otherwise, sounds like a great get.
Javelin catcher. You can see why he wouldn't matriculate in Boston.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on March 31, 2011, 08:26:25 AM
Quote from: RedDogThe need for speed......Cornell's offense just couldn't stretch a defense last year.....
Jim Ryun, U of Kansas in the sixties (?), set the world record in mile, 3:51, and was asked if he'd think about going out for KU football. Ryun: "They'd use me on those third-a-mile-to-go situations."
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Robb on March 31, 2011, 09:21:35 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: RedDogThe need for speed......Cornell's offense just couldn't stretch a defense last year.....
Jim Ryun, U of Kansas in the sixties (?), set the world record in mile, 3:51, and was asked if he'd think about going out for KU football. Ryun: "They'd use me on those third-a-mile-to-go situations."
That's the one - he's godfather to a friend of mine.  He's ESPN.com's top high school athlete of all time. (http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/highschool.html)  Only high school junior ever to go under 4:00.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on March 31, 2011, 11:39:31 AM
Remain very impressed with Coach Austin, and his first recruiting class.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on April 01, 2011, 01:11:39 AM
Quote from: CASRemain very impressed with Coach Austin, and his first recruiting class.
In hoops, Coach K already made the final four and may win a national championship playing a bunch of freshman at Kentucky but I don't think our hopes should rise to the level of knocking off Harvard with a single recruiting class. What's a successful season for us? Not getting our wins vacated? Is going 4-6 or 5-5 be good enough? We should not be losing to a Wagner College.

For all the griping about the athletic director, he's hired, retained, or had in place to take the reins (DeLuca) the right people.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: CAS on April 01, 2011, 09:39:47 AM
Don't know why, with an excellent coach and competitive financial aid, we can't win in football.  We're been very successful in lacrosse, wrestling, hockey, and now basketball.  Sure it will take a few recruiting classes, but think Big Red football under Coach Austin will be back. And it will be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on April 04, 2011, 12:03:47 AM
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
It sounds as though Austin is getting his message across.  
Quote from: HausmannI didn't want to go to a program already at the top. I wanted to be a part of a program building something with a sense of direction.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on April 04, 2011, 12:14:23 AM
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
It sounds as though Austin is getting his message across.  
Quote from: HausmannI didn't want to go to a program already at the top. I wanted to be a part of a program building something with a sense of direction.
Over in Cambridge, the hockey coach gave the Crimson a sense of direction, and in only a few short years.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 04, 2011, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
It sounds as though Austin is getting his message across.  
Quote from: HausmannI didn't want to go to a program already at the top. I wanted to be a part of a program building something with a sense of direction.
Over in Cambridge, the hockey coach gave the Crimson a sense of direction, and in only a few short years.

We like THAT direction.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on April 04, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: CASDon't know why, with an excellent coach and competitive financial aid, we can't win in football.  We're been very successful in lacrosse, wrestling, hockey, and now basketball.  Sure it will take a few recruiting classes, but think Big Red football under Coach Austin will be back. And it will be fun to watch.
Does it count as "back" when we've been so rarely "been"?  :)

There certainly seems to be more energy surrounding football now than in the past.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Swampy on April 04, 2011, 03:24:46 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
It sounds as though Austin is getting his message across.  
Quote from: HausmannI didn't want to go to a program already at the top. I wanted to be a part of a program building something with a sense of direction.
Over in Cambridge, the hockey coach gave the Crimson a sense of direction, and in only a few short years.

We like THAT direction.

For Harvard ...
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on April 04, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ken711Another article on an incoming Cornell football recruit.

http://www.rosemounttownpages.com/event/article/id/27349/group/Sports/
It sounds as though Austin is getting his message across.  
Quote from: HausmannI didn't want to go to a program already at the top. I wanted to be a part of a program building something with a sense of direction.
Over in Cambridge, the hockey coach gave the Crimson a sense of direction, and in only a few short years.

We like THAT direction.

For Harvard ...

Of course.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on April 07, 2011, 07:07:58 PM
Anyone know when spring practice begins and the date of the spring game?
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on April 11, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Ken711Anyone know when spring practice begins and the date of the spring game?

http://www.voy.com/152805/86480.html
QuoteNot going to be one this year. So many players have quit (17 at last count)since the end of last season not enough bodies.

Someone was saying on the football board that there wont be one, too many players have quit, did they get cut or quit?
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Jim Hyla on April 11, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Ken711Anyone know when spring practice begins and the date of the spring game?

http://www.voy.com/152805/86480.html
QuoteNot going to be one this year. So many players have quit (17 at last count)since the end of last season not enough bodies.

Someone was saying on the football board that there wont be one, too many players have quit, did they get cut or quit?
If players quitting means they are putting together a team that wants to work hard to win, then go for it. SU lost a lot of players when their new coach came. The talk was that the former coach was so easy the players got lazy, those that didn't want to work, left. Seems to be working out here.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on April 12, 2011, 07:28:26 AM
Thanks for the info on the spring game.  I expect a lot of the incoming freshman in the latest recruiting class will have an opportunity for more playing time.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: RedDog on April 12, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
At the end of last season Austin said something along the lines of, "now we're going to find out who wants to be a football player," indicating an off-season commitment, particularly in the weight room....I guess we're finding out....
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Chris '03 on April 12, 2011, 10:00:54 AM
Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
Title: Spring Game: April 30
Post by: Chris '03 on April 12, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Rumors of the Spring Game's demise are premature apparently.

QuoteThe Annual Spring Football Game is scheduled for Saturday, April 30 at 3 p.m. at Schoellkopf Field.
http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/4/11/FB_0411110233.aspx
Title: Re: Spring Game: April 30
Post by: CAS on April 12, 2011, 10:38:08 AM
With the Cornell website mentioning the return of 42 lettermen, and over 75 players on the spring roster I see no signs of players quitting the program
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: ugarte on April 12, 2011, 11:07:48 AM
Quote from: Chris '03Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
Fuckin' A. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to the field but... I like it.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: billhoward on April 12, 2011, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: Chris '03Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
What was the "Yikes"? The caliber of Cornell football or the multimedia elements on the football site? Site reminds me of a '90s site for the Wham! reunion tour. The site designer doesn't believe in the Bauhaus imperative.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Weder on April 12, 2011, 01:44:36 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Chris '03Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
Fuckin' A. It means nothing if it doesn't translate to the field but... I like it.

The facilities section of the site mentions a new video board at Schoellkopf. I wonder if this means that better video feeds will be available for football and lacrosse on Redcast. (Assuming that they'll have more cameras in place to provide video for the scoreboard.)
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Trotsky on April 12, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Chris '03Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
What was the "Yikes"? The caliber of Cornell football or the multimedia elements on the football site? Site reminds me of a '90s site for the Wham! reunion tour. The site designer doesn't believe in the Bauhaus imperative.
I believe the "Yikes" refers to "Cornell football as envisioned by the Dalton Academy Warblers."
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: Ken711 on April 12, 2011, 05:45:44 PM
i like the new insidecornellfootball website. More visibility for the football program the better.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: David Harding on April 12, 2011, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: Chris '03Yikes:
http://web.insidecornellfootball.com/bigred/
I'm impressed by how full of spectators the selected shots make the stadium look.
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on April 27, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
http://www.cornellbigred.com/news/2011/4/27/FB_0427114852.aspx

Spring football game at 4pm Saturday after the lacrosse game, live in game chat at the above link
Title: Re: Cornell Football -- The Future Starts Now
Post by: phillysportsfan on April 30, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
reminder: live chat providing commentary on the Spring football game at the above link now