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Title: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
1 13:42 Cor Kary 1 (Miller, Nicholls)
2 08:06 Cor Birch 1 (Kary, Craig)
2 11:44 Cor Gotovets 1 (Nicholls)
2 12:34 Cor pp Jillson 1 (Collins, Whitney)
2 16:07 Clk DeFazio 3 (Oakley, Borowiecki)
3 10:58 Cor Mowrey 3 (Jillson, Kennedy)
3 14:40 Cor J. Devin 1 (Gotovets, Miller)
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: ACM on November 06, 2010, 06:35:11 PM
Brisson in, Nicholls in, not clear from Schafer's interview on WHCU who's out.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2010, 06:47:04 PM
Schafer spoke about "holding guys responsible for not playing physically" and "being the type of team that's difficult to play against."

So, Eddie Shore.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: ACM on November 06, 2010, 07:01:28 PM
Mihalek and DeSwardt out
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: snert1288 on November 06, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
is there a video feed available for this game? i can only find audio.
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: TimV on November 06, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
B2 has it.  Try B2livetv.com
Title: Re: Cornell 0 Clarkson 0 (pregame)
Post by: snert1288 on November 06, 2010, 07:16:52 PM
got it thanks!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Clarkson 0 (2nd period)
Post by: jeff '84 on November 06, 2010, 08:10:22 PM
3-0. Gotovetz.
Title: Re: Cornell 3 Clarkson 0 (2nd period)
Post by: LaJollaRed on November 06, 2010, 08:11:05 PM
Let those floodgates go!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Clarkson 0 (2nd period)
Post by: jeff '84 on November 06, 2010, 08:11:28 PM
and another!!
Title: Re: Cornell 2 Clarkson 0 (2nd period)
Post by: jeff '84 on November 06, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
4-1 late  in second.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 Clarkson 1 (3rd period)
Post by: Trotsky on November 06, 2010, 08:58:40 PM
Brisson in street clothes per Age tweet.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 Clarkson 1 (3rd period)
Post by: jeff '84 on November 06, 2010, 09:06:17 PM
Devin. 6-1 5 mins left.
Title: Re: Cornell 5 Clarkson 1 (3rd period)
Post by: margolism on November 06, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
I wouldn't have thought that our offense would be this decent, especially this early in the season.  (We were ranked #15 in offense coming into tonight's game, and that stat included being blanked last night.)  I expected us to be strong in defense coming into the season, and highly questionable on offense.  So far, it's been the opposite.

Glad to see our defense holding up tonight.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Roy 82 on November 07, 2010, 09:58:25 PM
The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 08, 2010, 07:25:48 AM
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2010, 08:20:22 AM
Is 0 a prime?  I always forget.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 08, 2010, 08:42:48 AM
No, a prime is divisible by 1 and itself. 0/0 is not legal although I am certain to ignite a math firestorm.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2010, 08:52:11 AM
Is 0 even?  I always forget.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: jkahn on November 08, 2010, 09:34:47 AM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 08, 2010, 09:42:11 AM
Ooops.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 08, 2010, 09:53:50 AM
I forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 08, 2010, 10:12:17 AM
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.

Officially 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, even though 1 seems to fit the spirit of the definition of prime and 0 likewise "feels" composite.  I think this is because it makes the statement of various theorems about prime numbers simpler.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Killer on November 08, 2010, 11:37:56 AM
In the goalie manual, 0 is prime.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2010, 12:09:55 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: jkahn
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Roy 82The number of goals score by our opponents in the first 4 games are:
7, 5, 3, 1.

After careful analysis, I detected a trend. I predict that in the next game we will allow -1 goals.

However, they are all prime so be careful as there are other less appealing candidates.
1 is not a prime.

Officially 0 and 1 are neither prime nor composite, even though 1 seems to fit the spirit of the definition of prime and 0 likewise "feels" composite.  I think this is because it makes the statement of various theorems about prime numbers simpler.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_zeta_function) is a lot of things, but it isn't "simple." ::help::
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: ursusminor on November 08, 2010, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_arithmetic) wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: KeithK on November 08, 2010, 07:48:32 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
Because we're a bunch of geeks who have hijacked this thread?
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 08, 2010, 08:13:17 PM
Where else could we discuss prime number theory and hockey in the same place?
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 08, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_arithmetic) wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)
But I've never understood why that fails if 1 were considered prime. If 1 were prime, I suppose adding it to any calculation such as their example "6936 = 23 x 3 x 172 x 11" just doesn't seem right? Also, if 1 were prime you'd not have to construct "other than prime" additions to the other theorems.

Anyway, you could just rewrite the theorem as "Any number can be written as a unique product of prime numbers other than 1. There probably is a place where it falls apart, I just don't know it.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: ursusminor on November 09, 2010, 01:34:29 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: Jim HylaI forget, why do we care if 1 or 0 are prime?
The Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorem_of_arithmetic) wouldn't hold if 1 were considered prime. That sounds like a good reason to me. :-)
But I've never understood why that fails if 1 were considered prime. If 1 were prime, I suppose adding it to any calculation such as their example "6936 = 23 x 3 x 172 x 11" just doesn't seem right? Also, if 1 were prime you'd not have to construct "other than prime" additions to the other theorems.

Anyway, you could just rewrite the theorem as "Any number can be written as a unique product of prime numbers other than 1. There probably is a place where it falls apart, I just don't know it.
I probably used the wrong smiley. It would just require an additional phrase like the one you used "other than 1" there and in other places.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 09, 2010, 07:41:14 AM
Wikipedia has a nice article on primes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number#Primality_of_one

1 used to be a prime number (hence my error as I learned math by counting dinosaurs) but Ursusminor correctly point out that 1 has fallen out of fashion as a prime to meet the needs of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic which states that any number can be expressed as a unique product of primes or is prime itself. 1 poses a problem in that if included it would not lead to unique products of primes. 6=2X3, 6=2X3X1, 6=2X3X1X1 etc.

This is not entirely satisfying and could easily lead us into the realm of arithmetic not being axiomatic.
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 09, 2010, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: TowerroadWikipedia has a nice article on primes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number#Primality_of_one

1 used to be a prime number (hence my error as I learned math by counting dinosaurs) but Ursusminor correctly point out that 1 has fallen out of fashion as a prime to meet the needs of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic which states that any number can be expressed as a unique product of primes or is prime itself. 1 poses a problem in that if included it would not lead to unique products of primes. 6=2X3, 6=2X3X1, 6=2X3X1X1 etc.

This is not entirely satisfying and could easily lead us into the realm of arithmetic not being axiomatic.

Well, it's like the silly "PWR is subjective" argument.  Math and logic are well-defined given a consistent set of axioms, but you have to choose which axioms to start with.  Just ask Riemann and Lobachevsky...
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 09, 2010, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: TowerroadWikipedia has a nice article on primes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number#Primality_of_one

1 used to be a prime number (hence my error as I learned math by counting dinosaurs) but Ursusminor correctly point out that 1 has fallen out of fashion as a prime to meet the needs of the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic which states that any number can be expressed as a unique product of primes or is prime itself. 1 poses a problem in that if included it would not lead to unique products of primes. 6=2X3, 6=2X3X1, 6=2X3X1X1 etc.

This is not entirely satisfying and could easily lead us into the realm of arithmetic not being axiomatic.

Well, it's like the silly "PWR is subjective" argument.  Math and logic are well-defined given a consistent set of axioms, but you have to choose which axioms to start with.  Just ask Riemann and Lobachevsky...
Well, that's a reason I can understand: "Because that's the way we defined it."::uptosomething::
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Trotsky on November 09, 2010, 08:27:44 AM
Quote from: jtwcornell91Just ask Riemann and Lobachevsky...
Lobachevsky called.  He said "let no one else's work evade your eyes."
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 09, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: jtwcornell91Just ask Riemann and Lobachevsky...
Lobachevsky called.  He said "let no one else's work evade your eyes."

"But remember always please to call it 'research'."
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 09, 2010, 08:49:30 AM
I taught my kids math when they were young and at some point for fun (danger nerd alert) we got to the set of all sets problem. I told them about Russell and Godel and how arithmetic was not as pure as one might think but I warned them "Just because Arithmetic is not axiomatic does not mean you should not balance your checkbook"
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 09, 2010, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: TowerroadI taught my kids math when they were young and at some point for fun (danger nerd alert) we got to the set of all sets problem. I told them about Russell and Godel and how arithmetic was not as pure as one might think but I warned them "Just because Arithmetic is not axiomatic does not mean you should not balance your checkbook"

There's a reason it's called "Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem" and not "ZOMG teh mathz is brok3z0rz!1!!1!!oneone!!eleven!"
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 09, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
I think it is time to drop the puck
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 09, 2010, 09:15:02 AM
Quote from: TowerroadI think it is time to drop the puck
Is it ever time to not drop the puck?:-}
Title: Re: Cornell 6 Clarkson 1
Post by: Towerroad on November 09, 2010, 09:17:48 AM
Amen!
Title: Highlights
Post by: Chris '03 on November 09, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
Just noticed the ECAC site is posting video highlights of (most?) conference games, which I don't remember seeing before this season. Here are the highlights from Saturday:
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/2010-11/Clarkson_Cornell1.flv
Title: Re: Highlights
Post by: scoop85 on November 09, 2010, 12:49:08 PM
Good stuff.  I especially enjoyed seeing how after Gotovets scored and he jumped against the glass, some blond woman smacked the glass in disgust.  Perhaps that was the insufferable Goldie Knight from the Clarkson Roundtable? :-P
Title: Re: Highlights
Post by: jtwcornell91 on November 09, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: scoop85Good stuff.  I especially enjoyed seeing how after Gotovets scored and he jumped against the glass, some blond woman smacked the glass in disgust.  Perhaps that was the insufferable Goldie Knight from the Clarkson Roundtable? :-P

Our Knights are AWESOME!
Title: Re: Highlights
Post by: Robb on November 09, 2010, 03:01:30 PM
Quote from: jtwcornell91
Quote from: scoop85Good stuff.  I especially enjoyed seeing how after Gotovets scored and he jumped against the glass, some blond woman smacked the glass in disgust.  Perhaps that was the insufferable Goldie Knight from the Clarkson Roundtable? :-P

Our Knights are AWESOME!
I can tell this is fake because there aren't at least 3 adverbs in front of AWESOME!
Title: Re: Highlights
Post by: Josh '99 on November 09, 2010, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: Chris '03Just noticed the ECAC site is posting video highlights of (most?) conference games, which I don't remember seeing before this season. Here are the highlights from Saturday:
http://www.ecachockey.com/men/video/2010-11/Clarkson_Cornell1.flv
That was good entertainment right there.  Winning at Lynah East is all very well and good, but for me there's a special joy in seeing the team go on the road and light it up against somebody who has actual fans there in the rink.  Part of the whole dream-crushing soul-devouring juggernaut thing, maybe.