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Title: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on September 28, 2010, 08:23:09 AM
USA Today/USA Hockey Mag 9/27
Team Points (First Place Votes) Last Poll
1 Boston College 504 (28) 1        
2 North Dakota 462 (4) 7
3 Miami     437 (2) 3
4 Michigan 383 8
5 Yale     334 6
6 St. Cloud 308 5
7 Maine        281 NR
8 New Hampshire 206 11
9 Minnesota D'th 195 NR
10 Cornell 162 9
11 Denver        146 4
12 Alaska   125 15
13 Wisconsin 115 2
14 Boston U 69 NR
15 Minnesota 50 NR
Others receiving votes: University of Notre Dame 43, Rochester Institute of Technology 38, Bemidji State University 36, Ferris State University 36, Union College 34, University of Vermont 28, Northern Michigan University 18, Michigan State University 21, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 16, Colorado College 14, Northeastern University 14, University of Nebraska at Omaha 3, Merrimack College 2.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national#ixzz10pGZ85u5
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Chris 02 on September 28, 2010, 12:36:48 PM
A mere 4 ECAC schools receiving votes.  Must be expecting a down year.  However, this is the poll where they rank only 1/4 of the schools in the country whereas the other ranks 1/3.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on September 28, 2010, 12:43:42 PM
At least we have another year where we appear in the top 10.  I do not think that's going to last very long. ::whistle::
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: KeithK on September 28, 2010, 01:48:23 PM
Quote from: TrotskyAt least we have another year where we appear in the top 10.  I do not think that's going to last very long. ::whistle::
I was just thinking that this might be our high water mark.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on September 28, 2010, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: TrotskyAt least we have another year where we appear in the top 10.  I do not think that's going to last very long. ::whistle::
I was just thinking that this might be our high water mark.
Probably, but it says something that even in a year when we are not so much rebuilding as starting from scratch, we still get the benefit of the doubt.

Well, maybe what it says is the voters just copy down last March's top 10 and move their favorites up a couple slots.  But it's gratifying anyway.

For comparison, the history of our ranking (http://www.tbrw.info/weekly_Updates/cornelll_Poll_History.html) since 1995.  Oct. 6 1997 and Oct. 2 2006 could be comparable starting points.

I just hope people aren't going apeshit by January if we're around .500 in conference, saying "this is a top 10 team, why are we so mediocre!?"  This is probably one of the least experienced teams in the last 20 years when talking about guys in major roles returning.  This should be a fun year discovering what we have to look forward to 2-3 years down the road, not a year of constantly smashing our heads against the wall because they haven't already arrived.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Josh '99 on September 28, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
Name recognition goes a long way in these things, eh?
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RatushnyFan on September 29, 2010, 11:14:04 AM
Quote from: Josh '99Name recognition goes a long way in these things, eh?
Exactly, look at Michigan at #4.  Great history but they barely made the NCAA tourney last year - they had to win the CCHA tourney after a lousy overall season.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on September 29, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Quote from: RatushnyFan
Quote from: Josh '99Name recognition goes a long way in these things, eh?
Exactly, look at Michigan at #4.  Great history but they barely made the NCAA tourney last year - they had to win the CCHA tourney after a lousy overall season.
But of course the coaches and media pick them and Miami 1-2 in CCHA. Looking at who they have coming back, I'd give Mich a lot more chance than us.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 04, 2010, 08:18:29 AM
For what it's worth, INCH lists us (http://www.insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/1011/great58_0901.htm) 15, while Yale is 7 and Union, RPI are 12 and 13. USCHO's ECAC summary comes out Tuesday. I don't know about CHN, Adam?
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Chris 02 on October 04, 2010, 04:39:11 PM
USCHO has us at #11.

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/index.php
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 05, 2010, 07:40:04 AM
USCHO has us as 5 in their review. (http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18822/ECACHockeypreparesforanothercrazyridein201011.html)
QuoteWhy: Where will the offense come from? How close can the new goalies come to filling Scrivens' sizable shoes? But that said, this is Cornell: "Mediocre" isn't in the vocabulary.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2010, 09:09:20 AM
Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO has us as 5 in their review. (http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18822/ECACHockeypreparesforanothercrazyridein201011.html)
QuoteWhy: Where will the offense come from? How close can the new goalies come to filling Scrivens' sizable shoes? But that said, this is Cornell: "Mediocre" isn't in the vocabulary.
I almost spat coffee when I read that Yale "hasn't lost much."  Arcobello, Backman and Dignard?  Christ on a diving board, they may be returning a lot, but they've certainly lost a lot too.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: munchkin on October 05, 2010, 11:49:55 AM
I already gave Brian crap for going with 5th and his reply was, "If it were anyone other than Cornell, it'd be 8th."
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on October 05, 2010, 01:27:03 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO has us as 5 in their review. (http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18822/ECACHockeypreparesforanothercrazyridein201011.html)
QuoteWhy: Where will the offense come from? How close can the new goalies come to filling Scrivens' sizable shoes? But that said, this is Cornell: "Mediocre" isn't in the vocabulary.
I almost spat coffee when I read that Yale "hasn't lost much."  Arcobello, Backman and Dignard?  Christ on a diving board, they may be returning a lot, but they've certainly lost a lot too.

I certainly won't miss Arcobello.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on October 05, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
I agree that the question of the day is where will the offense come from. My observation is that the game has become faster with more of a premium on speed and skill. The contrast with Yale last year could not have been clearer.

I take it as a given that we will continue to be beasts when our defense is set up but I thought we had a lot of trouble in transition and moving the puck through the neutral zone last year. Perhaps those with better credentials than mine can comment on where the offense will come from.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: scoop85 on October 05, 2010, 01:48:14 PM
I think we'll be relying on a lot of "grinder" type goals from guys like J. Devin and Collins.  You have to hope that our more "high skill" guys -- think Esposito, Jillson and Roeszler -- will be able to continue the improvement that they showed toward the end of last season.

Given the depth on defense that we seem to have with Gotovets and Brisson being added to our returning group, I wouldn't be surprised to see Whitney get a fair amount of time at forward to add some scoring punch.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: ajh258 on October 05, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
Quote from: Jim HylaUSCHO has us as 5 in their review. (http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,18822/ECACHockeypreparesforanothercrazyridein201011.html)
QuoteWhy: Where will the offense come from? How close can the new goalies come to filling Scrivens' sizable shoes? But that said, this is Cornell: "Mediocre" isn't in the vocabulary.

New starting goalie is most likely Garman, not Iles unless there's a need - I heard this from a player. We'll still have to wait and see how Mike performs under pressure, but he was able to hold the line last year when Scrivens broke, so I have a lot of confidence in him.

As to the offense, we'll just have to wait and see as well. These pre-season polls mean very little anyways.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 06, 2010, 08:00:28 AM
INCH's ECAC picks lists us at 4 (http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/10/05/1011-ecach-preview/), under the title of "PRIMED FOR A FALL". Iles is "IMPACT NEWCOMER".
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 10, 2010, 08:12:38 AM
The ECAC has a poll up (http://www.ecachockey.com/men/index?t=1286712595280) on who will win the ECAC regular season. Currently it's 38-31 Yale over us.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: TimV on October 12, 2010, 09:09:07 AM
Log on and vote for Yale.  Reverse woof.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: KeithK on October 12, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
Quote from: TimVLog on and vote for Yale.  Reverse woof.
The Woofing Gods are not amused.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on October 18, 2010, 11:25:53 PM
We slip to 13 in the USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/) poll based on our clutch and grab dryland training.  One place better in the USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm) poll.
Title: Re: Polls - women
Post by: David Harding on October 20, 2010, 12:03:06 AM
With Mercyhurst's losss, the Cornell women move up a notch to Number One in the USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatwomen.htm) poll.  The USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-womens-poll/) poll leaves them #2, with Wisconsin leapfrogging them to replace Mercyhurst.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: nyc94 on October 25, 2010, 11:40:36 PM
Dropped to 14 this week in the USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/) poll and 15 in USA Today (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/).
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on October 25, 2010, 11:54:45 PM
Quote from: nyc94Dropped to 14 this week in the USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/) poll and 15 in USA Today (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/usa-today-mens/).
It's tough what a couple of wins will do to you.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 01, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Somehow we're still 19 in USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/) The women are still 2. At least INCH (http://insidecollegehockey.com/5Polls/1011/polls_0905.htm) had the good sense to drop us.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 02, 2010, 08:28:18 AM
Via ECAC, Schafer on All-Acess. (http://c1.libsyn.com/media/23368/collegehockeyallaccess103010.wma?nvb=20101102121251&nva=20101103122251&sid=82b410db3880d50af2111b16730d9c7c&l_sid=23368&l_eid=&l_mid=2222716&t=01764977d8b0183105bcf) and Moulson mic'd (http://video.islanders.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=-6&id=80979) against Montreal.

Also we're out of the top 15 in USA .... poll. (http://usahockey.com/Template_Usahockey.aspx?NAV=PL_03_01&id=198180)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: nyc94 on November 08, 2010, 03:31:02 PM
Out of the top 20 in the Nov. 8 USCHO poll. (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/)  Tied with Robert Morris for most points (30) in Others Receiving Votes.  Yale up to third with five first place votes (out of 50).  Union at 12th.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2010, 03:36:33 PM
1st time out of the top 20 since 3/24/08.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Chris 02 on November 08, 2010, 04:44:07 PM
And a single last place vote in the USA Today Poll (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on November 08, 2010, 04:55:18 PM
The Women remain at #2 so the OT loss to Mercyhurst did not seem to hurt their standing.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on November 08, 2010, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: Chris 02And a single last place vote in the USA Today Poll (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/)
That's a single 20th pace vote. ::looking::
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Chris 02 on November 09, 2010, 09:50:19 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Chris 02And a single last place vote in the USA Today Poll (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/)
That's a single 20th pace vote. ::looking::

Last place, implying a 15th place vote from a single voter.  Was that what you meant?
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on November 09, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Chris 02
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Chris 02And a single last place vote in the USA Today Poll (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/)
That's a single 20th pace vote. ::looking::

Last place, implying a 15th place vote from a single voter.  Was that what you meant?
Yes.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on November 15, 2010, 03:19:49 PM
Cornell drops to 24 in the USCHO poll (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/).

5. Yale
14. Union
18. RPI
22. Dartmouth
24. Cornell
27. Princeton
29. Clarkson (tied)
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on November 23, 2010, 09:06:07 AM
This week Cornell did not receive a single vote in either the USCHO or USA Today poll for the first time in 62 polling weeks dating back to Nov 5 2007.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on November 23, 2010, 12:59:37 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThis week Cornell did not receive a single vote in either the USCHO or USA Today poll for the first time in 62 polling weeks dating back to Nov 5 2007.

While that is certainly true for the men the women are ranked #2
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: ithacat on November 23, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Towerroad...and no one has scored on Amanda Mazzotta in the last 139:05 minutes.

Did you have to jinx her? Why not just say only another 309:35 minutes and the NCAA record's hers? **]
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on November 23, 2010, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: ithacat
Quote from: Towerroad...and no one has scored on Amanda Mazzotta in the last 139:05 minutes.

Did you have to jinx her? Why not just say only another 309:35 minutes and the NCAA record's hers? **]

I am not sure of what you speak. LGR!!!
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: ugarte on November 24, 2010, 12:49:28 PM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyThis week Cornell did not receive a single vote in either the USCHO or USA Today poll for the first time in 62 polling weeks dating back to Nov 5 2007.

While that is certainly true for the men the women are ranked #2
sigh
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: margolism on November 30, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyThis week Cornell did not receive a single vote in either the USCHO or USA Today poll for the first time in 62 polling weeks dating back to Nov 5 2007.

While that is certainly true for the men the women are ranked #2
sigh

Not any more...moved up to #1 in latest USCHO poll, by a single point.

Has the women's team ever been the #1 team in the country?
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Tom Lento on December 04, 2010, 06:55:52 PM
Quote from: margolism
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyThis week Cornell did not receive a single vote in either the USCHO or USA Today poll for the first time in 62 polling weeks dating back to Nov 5 2007.

While that is certainly true for the men the women are ranked #2
sigh

Not any more...moved up to #1 in latest USCHO poll, by a single point.

Has the women's team ever been the #1 team in the country?

Maybe once back in the early days of women's college hockey, but I don't think there would have been polls then.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: billhoward on December 07, 2010, 10:34:52 AM
Lots of ECAC teams in the men's D1 poll. Just not us. Seeing Yale ranked #1 now makes our effort at Lynah seem all the better, if not a victory.

http://www.uscho.com/rankingsnew/
[b]USCHO Poll[/b]
 1. Yale (up from 2)
13. Union
15. RPI
19. Dartmouth
Also getting votes: Clarkson, Princeton.


Cornell women remain #1 with 142 points and 8 firsts to 139 and 7 first for Wisconsin.

[b]USA Today / Coaches' Poll[/b]
1. Yale
6. Maine
8. Miami
13. Union
15. RPI
Also: Dartmouth


The Florida Classic teams this week are rated (USCHO)
6. Miami no change
8. Maine +1
NR Cornell and St. Cloud State
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Killer on December 07, 2010, 12:19:48 PM
Alas, had only the "no goal" call gone the other way...
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 07, 2010, 01:23:18 PM
Quote from: KillerAlas, had only the "no goal" call gone the other way...
Yeah, we wouldn't be any better, but Yale wouldn't be number 1.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: billhoward on December 07, 2010, 01:38:45 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: KillerAlas, had only the "no goal" call gone the other way...
Yeah, we wouldn't be any better, but Yale wouldn't be number 1.
Seeding committees should consider quality losses, too, as would be the case of Cornell-Yale Round I but not Jets-Patriots Round II.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: dbilmes on December 07, 2010, 05:59:11 PM
Yale may be No. 1, but their fans still suck. They didn't even sell out their game Sunday afternoon against Union.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: billhoward on December 07, 2010, 06:01:27 PM
Quote from: dbilmesYale may be No. 1, but their fans still suck. They didn't even sell out their game Sunday afternoon against Union.
All true but I think this year I'm buying tickets in advance. It took 20 minutes to scrounge up 2 outside Ingalls last year, although one turned out to be free (the advantage of wearing a Cornell jersey).

Anyway I think Yale is a placeholder for someone out West who goes on a December-early January tear.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: nyc94 on December 07, 2010, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Yale ranked #1

is causing much whining over at USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/2010/12/07/yale-takes-over-at-top-of-mens-poll/)
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 07, 2010, 06:50:45 PM
Ivies atop both Division I polls.  How sweet.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: billhoward on December 07, 2010, 10:21:39 PM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Yale ranked #1
is causing much whining over at USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/2010/12/07/yale-takes-over-at-top-of-mens-poll/)

As expected when I saw Al's post: a lot of fans with limited access to spell/grammar-checking who are upset that their teams aren't #1. Unspoken is the greater annoyance that not only will these Ivy League twits rise to control the business world upon graduation, but now they're atop the college world, too.

A couple lucid posts such as this:
Quote from: redgopherMr. Weasel, don't be to quick to make that assumption [Yale #1 only b/c of soft schedule] until you have seen Yale Play, I grew up watching hockey in Minnesota, and this Yale Team is one of the strongest Offensively skilled teams I have seen in the last 45 years of watching college hockey. I don't know what your experience is, but I have been to alot of college games and have seen alot of hockey over the years.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Josh '99 on December 08, 2010, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Yale ranked #1

is causing much whining over at USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/2010/12/07/yale-takes-over-at-top-of-mens-poll/)
AAAAAGH, MY EYES!

I should know better than to look at that crap by now.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: billhoward on December 08, 2010, 10:19:25 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Yale ranked #1

is causing much whining over at USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/2010/12/07/yale-takes-over-at-top-of-mens-poll/)
AAAAAGH, MY EYES!

I should know better than to look at that crap by now.
We were all warned back in Sunday School what would happen (John 12:40), ""He hath blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts." It's worse for those who are strict grammarians. There and their seems to be a continuing difficulty and its / it's approaches less than random outcome (grammar meets anti-matter). But it's page views. Doubleclick has been served.
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Trotsky on December 09, 2010, 08:20:12 AM
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Yale ranked #1

is causing much whining over at USCHO. (http://www.uscho.com/2010/12/07/yale-takes-over-at-top-of-mens-poll/)
AAAAAGH, MY EYES!

I should know better than to look at that crap by now.
We were all warned back in Sunday School what would happen (John 12:40), ""He hath blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts." It's worse for those who are strict grammarians. There and their seems to be a continuing difficulty and its / it's approaches less than random outcome (grammar meets anti-matter). But it's page views. Doubleclick has been served.

"If it weren't for my horse, ..."
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: jeff '84 on January 02, 2011, 04:29:43 PM
Two page spread on Yale Hockey in today's NY Daily News:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2011/01/01/2011-01-01_yale_behind_the_guiding_hand_of_explayer_keith_allain_has_reached_new_hockey_hei.html
Title: Re: Polls 12/6/10 - Cornell (men) nowhwere in sight
Post by: Towerroad on January 02, 2011, 06:51:46 PM
Certainly a very clear contrast in playing styles.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: releck97 on January 09, 2011, 09:05:02 AM
Here's a quote from Trotsky on September 28: "I just hope people aren't going apeshit by January if we're around .500 in conference, saying "this is a top 10 team, why are we so mediocre!?" This is probably one of the least experienced teams in the last 20 years when talking about guys in major roles returning. This should be a fun year discovering what we have to look forward to 2-3 years down the road, not a year of constantly smashing our heads against the wall because they haven't already arrived."

Two thoughts:

Geez, this guy is scarily prophetic.
Thanks for putting this season into perspective...doesn't make it any easier, though...
Title: Re: Polls 1/10/11 - 4 point weekend, still not Top 20
Post by: billhoward on January 10, 2011, 04:36:36 PM
Cornell surges with a four-point weekend on the road and the voters apparently want to see more. At least Harvard isn't doing any better. Among ECAC teams:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
Jan 10, 2011
1.  Yale
10. RPI
14. Union
Also receing votes: Princeton, Dartmouth, Clarkson.

Cornell women remain second behind Wisconsin, with 3 first place votes to the Badgers' 12
Title: Re: Polls 1/10/11 - 4 point weekend, still not Top 20
Post by: Al DeFlorio on January 10, 2011, 05:33:37 PM
Quote from: billhowardCornell surges with a four-point weekend on the road and the voters apparently want to see more. At least Harvard isn't doing any better. Among ECAC teams:

http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/
Jan 10, 2011
1.  Yale
10. RPI
14. Union
Also receing votes: Princeton, Dartmouth, Clarkson.

Cornell women remain second behind Wisconsin, with 3 first place votes to the Badgers' 12
Looks like Cornell will host two ranked teams this weekend.
Title: The Pairwise System has changed.
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on January 18, 2011, 08:37:08 PM
http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php
Title: Re: Polls 1/17/11
Post by: billhoward on January 18, 2011, 11:17:30 PM
Our near-sweep (excluding the second and third periods of Saturday's game) didn't buy Cornell men even a single vote in either poll but it did knock RPI down about 4 places to the mid-teens. I still say we're the most under-rating team in the bottom half of the rankings. Yale lost but still remained #1.

Women still #2 behind Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The Pairwise System has changed.
Post by: Josh '99 on January 19, 2011, 09:18:11 AM
Quote from: BigRedHockeyFanhttp://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php
I think maybe this link (http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/01/18_committee_tweaks_pairwise.php) is more instructive about the changes.  Basically, they redefined TUC as "team with RPI over .500" rather than "team in the top 25 of RPI" (which I personally didn't remember them ever having changed it to, but that's just because I wasn't paying attention).
Title: Re: Polls 1/17/11
Post by: Trotsky on January 19, 2011, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: billhowardOur near-sweep (excluding the second and third periods of Saturday's game) didn't buy Cornell men even a single vote in either poll but it did knock RPI down about 4 places to the mid-teens. I still say we're the most under-rating team in the bottom half of the rankings. Yale lost but still remained #1.

Women still #2 behind Wisconsin.
The only poll that matters...

(http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/assets_c/2009/10/stripper%20pole-thumb-308x304.jpg)
Title: Re: Polls 1/17/11
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on January 19, 2011, 12:30:05 PM
OK, that's just wrong.
Title: Re: Polls 1/17/11
Post by: KeithK on January 19, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82OK, that's just wrong.
So, so wrong.
Title: Re: Polls 1/31/11
Post by: billhoward on January 31, 2011, 05:59:41 PM
One of the polls covers half the D1 teams in the country and we remain without even a single honorable mention vote. Wonder what our previous record is for weeks without a mention?

Women still #2.
Title: Re: Polls 1/31/11
Post by: KeithK on January 31, 2011, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: billhowardOne of the polls covers half the D1 teams in the country and we remain without even a single honorable mention vote. Wonder what our previous record is for weeks without a mention?

Women still #2.
I know I'm out on a limb here, but we probably didn't get any votes at all in 93-94.
Title: Re: Polls 1/31/11
Post by: Trotsky on February 01, 2011, 11:16:42 AM
Quote from: billhowardOne of the polls covers half the D1 teams in the country and we remain without even a single honorable mention vote. Wonder what our previous record is for weeks without a mention?

We're currently 34th in KRACH.  USCHO poll has 31 teams with at least one point, USA Today has 20.

These records (http://www.tbrw.info/weekly_Updates/cornell_Poll_History.html) only go back to 1995.  If anybody finds earlier ones, I'd be grateful.  There was once a poll conducted by a Minnesota radio (TV?) station, and Don Birkmeier's old newsletter may have had records.  Or there's always a library of back issues of IJ waiting for a research job by some enterprising and bored youngster.

Current stretch: 8 polls (from 22 Nov 10)

This is the longest streak in over 10 years.  Prior to the streak, Cornell had received at least 1 vote in 223 of the previous 227 poll weeks, including one streak of 153 in a row.

Longest streaks without a point:

16 polls (18 Jan 99 through 15 Nov 99)
15 polls (06 Dec 99 through end of season)
10 polls (02 Mar 98 through 09 Nov 98)

The streak of 28 polls from 13 Oct 95 through 11 Nov 96 was, I believe, restricted to failure to crack the top 10.
Title: Cornell cracks the pairwise
Post by: BigRedHockeyFan on February 04, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
Cornell in the Pairwise:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/ncaapwcr.php
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on February 07, 2011, 02:22:42 PM
Our long national nightmare is over:

24th with 3 votes in USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national).

Still absent from USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/usatmen.htm).
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Al DeFlorio on February 07, 2011, 02:26:04 PM
Quote from: TrotskyOur long national nightmare is over:

24th with 3 votes in USCHO (http://www.uscho.com/rankings/?data=national).

But ahead of the Goofers.:-}
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: RichH on February 07, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
The mid-late 1990s version of myself just fell out of his chair when I told him that Yale, RPI, Union, Notre Dame, Merrimack, & Miami (OH) make up half of the Top 12.

Reason #802 why I love college hockey.
Title: Re: Polls 2/14/11 Cornell up to 5 HM votes
Post by: billhoward on February 14, 2011, 08:47:55 PM
Cornell is picking up steam. 5 votes this week in the USCHO Feb, 14 poll, which is the 24th most votes out of 26 teams receiving votes out of ~ 58 D1 schools. Union moves from 9 to 7, RPI falls from 8 to 14. That would of course be the result of the poor officiating rather than Cornell's OT goal Saturday.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/


USA Today / Hockey Magazine only goes to 15 ranked teams and 4 others getting votes, so we're not on the list there.
http://www.uscho.com/rankings/national-polls/
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: nyc94 on February 21, 2011, 03:06:12 PM
North Dakota takes over the top spot.  BC second, Yale third.  While BC was the unanimous number one last week, four different teams received first place votes this week: UND (21), BC (13), Yale (15), and Merrimack (1).  Union is fifth, RPI is 14, Dartmouth is 18.  Princeton and Cornell are in the "others receiving votes" category with 33 and 24, respectively.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Trotsky on March 08, 2011, 09:54:53 AM
Cornell's  dominant bye week moves them up from 25 to 23 in the USCHO poll.


Team (First Place) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (39) 26- 8-3 987 1
2 Boston College (10) 26- 7-1 953 2
3 Yale ( 1) 23- 5-1 892 3
4 Union 25- 7-4 842 4
5 Michigan 23- 9-4 784 5
6 Denver 21-10-5 709 5
7 Miami 19- 9-6 666 8
8 Notre Dame 21-10-5 620 10
9 Merrimack 22- 8-4 583 9
10 New Hampshire 19- 9-6 573 7
11 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 9-6 531 11
12 Nebraska-Omaha 21-13-2 488 12
13 Boston University 18-10-8 353 13
14 Maine 17-10-7 345 14
15 Western Michigan 16-10-10 286 15
16 Colorado College 19-16-3 221 17
17 Minnesota 16-12-6 185 19
18 Dartmouth 16-10-3 165 20
19 Wisconsin 20-14-4 164 18
20 Rensselaer 20-12-5 98 16
Others Receiving Votes: St. Cloud State 21, Ferris State 17, Cornell 10, Rochester Institute of Technology 4, Robert Morris 2, Alaska 1

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/#ixzz1G1JS0fvO

Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on March 08, 2011, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: TrotskyCornell's  dominant bye week moves them up from 25 to 23 in the USCHO poll.


Team (First Place) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (39) 26- 8-3 987 1
2 Boston College (10) 26- 7-1 953 2
3 Yale ( 1) 23- 5-1 892 3
4 Union 25- 7-4 842 4
5 Michigan 23- 9-4 784 5
6 Denver 21-10-5 709 5
7 Miami 19- 9-6 666 8
8 Notre Dame 21-10-5 620 10
9 Merrimack 22- 8-4 583 9
10 New Hampshire 19- 9-6 573 7
11 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 9-6 531 11
12 Nebraska-Omaha 21-13-2 488 12
13 Boston University 18-10-8 353 13
14 Maine 17-10-7 345 14
15 Western Michigan 16-10-10 286 15
16 Colorado College 19-16-3 221 17
17 Minnesota 16-12-6 185 19
18 Dartmouth 16-10-3 165 20
19 Wisconsin 20-14-4 164 18
20 Rensselaer 20-12-5 98 16
Others Receiving Votes: St. Cloud State 21, Ferris State 17, Cornell 10, Rochester Institute of Technology 4, Robert Morris 2, Alaska 1

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/#ixzz1G1JS0fvO

How much would it cost me to have you not play?
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 08, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyCornell's  dominant bye week moves them up from 25 to 23 in the USCHO poll.


Team (First Place) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (39) 26- 8-3 987 1
2 Boston College (10) 26- 7-1 953 2
3 Yale ( 1) 23- 5-1 892 3
4 Union 25- 7-4 842 4
5 Michigan 23- 9-4 784 5
6 Denver 21-10-5 709 5
7 Miami 19- 9-6 666 8
8 Notre Dame 21-10-5 620 10
9 Merrimack 22- 8-4 583 9
10 New Hampshire 19- 9-6 573 7
11 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 9-6 531 11
12 Nebraska-Omaha 21-13-2 488 12
13 Boston University 18-10-8 353 13
14 Maine 17-10-7 345 14
15 Western Michigan 16-10-10 286 15
16 Colorado College 19-16-3 221 17
17 Minnesota 16-12-6 185 19
18 Dartmouth 16-10-3 165 20
19 Wisconsin 20-14-4 164 18
20 Rensselaer 20-12-5 98 16
Others Receiving Votes: St. Cloud State 21, Ferris State 17, Cornell 10, Rochester Institute of Technology 4, Robert Morris 2, Alaska 1

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/#ixzz1G1JS0fvO

How much would it cost me to have you not play?

You couldn't afford it.
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Towerroad on March 08, 2011, 07:44:56 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyCornell's  dominant bye week moves them up from 25 to 23 in the USCHO poll.


Team (First Place) Record Points Last Poll
1 North Dakota (39) 26- 8-3 987 1
2 Boston College (10) 26- 7-1 953 2
3 Yale ( 1) 23- 5-1 892 3
4 Union 25- 7-4 842 4
5 Michigan 23- 9-4 784 5
6 Denver 21-10-5 709 5
7 Miami 19- 9-6 666 8
8 Notre Dame 21-10-5 620 10
9 Merrimack 22- 8-4 583 9
10 New Hampshire 19- 9-6 573 7
11 Minnesota-Duluth 20- 9-6 531 11
12 Nebraska-Omaha 21-13-2 488 12
13 Boston University 18-10-8 353 13
14 Maine 17-10-7 345 14
15 Western Michigan 16-10-10 286 15
16 Colorado College 19-16-3 221 17
17 Minnesota 16-12-6 185 19
18 Dartmouth 16-10-3 165 20
19 Wisconsin 20-14-4 164 18
20 Rensselaer 20-12-5 98 16
Others Receiving Votes: St. Cloud State 21, Ferris State 17, Cornell 10, Rochester Institute of Technology 4, Robert Morris 2, Alaska 1

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/#ixzz1G1JS0fvO

How much would it cost me to have you not play?

You couldn't afford it.

Ah the classics!
Title: Re: Polls
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 09, 2011, 08:21:00 AM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskySnip

How much would it cost me to have you not play?

You couldn't afford it.

Ah the classics!

Yeah, not enough Marx Brothers references here.