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Title: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: nyc94 on August 14, 2010, 03:40:27 PM
Not much to discuss.


School        Points
1. Harvard (10)  128    
2. Penn (6)      124
3. Brown         95    
4. Yale (1)      83    
5. Columbia      61
6. Princeton     55
7. Dartmouth     39
8. Cornell       27

http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/8/10/FB_0810104149.aspx
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on August 14, 2010, 07:41:26 PM
"We finished last with you and we can finish last without you."  (Branch Rickey to Ralph Kiner)
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: ugarte on August 15, 2010, 03:43:17 PM
Awesome! The year after the basketball team finishes in the top 20, the football team is going to be top 10!
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: dbilmes on August 16, 2010, 08:32:52 PM
I can't remember Columbia being a preseason pick to finish that high. At least one Ivy football program from New York State is heading in the right direction!
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on September 10, 2010, 01:00:06 PM
Well, this may as well be the 2010 football thread.  It will help keep things in perspective.

I can't find a depth chart, so here are our skill position players.  Anybody with some knowledge care to comment on who will be a key or peripheral performer, and who's on the practice squad?  (2009 stats in parens)

QB Chris Amrheim (6 pass)
QB Josh Vick
QB Adam Currie (30 rush, 207 pass)
QB Houston Hawley
QB Michael DiChiara

RB Troy Lewis
RB Dustin Dillard
RB Nick Booker-Tandy
RB Marcus Hendren (232 rush, 6 receive)
RB Grant Gellatly
RB Bobby Murphy
RB Taylor Engstrom
RB Nick Mlady (55 rush, 5 receive)
RB Josh Boyle
RB Brian Murray

TE John Nitti
TE Ryan Houska (132 receive)
TE Kyle Arendsen
TE Jake Allyn
TE J. C. Tretter (18 receive)

WR Tom Randall
WR Alex Johnson
WR Chris Dennis
WR Evan Maclin
WR Ty Siam
WR Luke Tasker
WR John Alexander
WR Shane Savage (9 rush, 37 pass, 371 receive)
WR Walter Simmons
WR Ben Moody (40 rush, 1 receive)
WR Nick Baccile
WR Graham Tenney
WR Kurt Ondash
WR Matt Drumheller
WR Jon Scheidler
WR E. J. Williams
WR Doug Dolan
WR Jesse Heon
WR Davis Austin
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: billhoward on September 10, 2010, 04:20:36 PM
I was going to write something snarky about how when you finish the season so badly, graduation losses can't hurt all that much. Or wonder if the ROTC conditioning and positive-attitudes coach is back. But never mind. Good luck to the team. It takes dedication to show up each day for practice the season will have a lot bad days. Maybe Kent Austin can lead us out of the wilderness. Andy Noel has made more good than bad hires or (as someone pointed out to me) good contract-renewals.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: Trotsky on September 10, 2010, 04:29:25 PM
Think of it as getting in on the ground floor.

The schedule.  NYC folks will be glad to see they are coming down twice this year:

09/18 01:00 at Wagner
09/25 12:30 Yale (homecoming)
10/02 03:30 at Bucknell
10/09 12:00 at Harvard
10/16 12:30 Colgate
10/23 12:30 at Brown
10/30 12:30 Princeton
11/06 12:30 Dartmouth
11/13 12:30 at Columbia
11/20 12:30 Penn
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: ugarte on September 10, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: TrotskyThink of it as getting in on the ground floor.

The schedule.  NYC folks will be glad to see they are coming down twice this year:

09/18 01:00 at Wagner
Are you under the impression that Staten Island counts?
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: Beeeej on September 10, 2010, 05:37:26 PM
I don't much care that they're playing on Staten Island while I'll be fasting in shul, but it'll be nice to have another Sy Katz Parade this year on November 13.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Al DeFlorio on September 10, 2010, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWell, this may as well be the 2010 football thread.  It will help keep things in perspective.

I can't find a depth chart, so here are our skill position players.  Anybody with some knowledge care to comment on who will be a key or peripheral performer, and who's on the practice squad?  (2009 stats in parens)

QB Chris Amrheim (6 pass)
QB Josh Vick
QB Adam Currie (30 rush, 207 pass)
QB Houston Hawley
QB Michael DiChiara
I am hoping that Jeff Mathews, a 6'4", 216 pounder who passed for 3,314 yards and 37 touchdowns last year in California high school football, will turn out to be a first-rate Ivy League quarterback.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: Trotsky on September 12, 2010, 11:07:25 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskyThink of it as getting in on the ground floor.

The schedule.  NYC folks will be glad to see they are coming down twice this year:

09/18 01:00 at Wagner
Are you under the impression that Staten Island counts?
Meh.  You all talk funny.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: billhoward on September 13, 2010, 08:13:14 AM
Wagner, like Stevens in Hoboken, has an awesome view of NYC. The previous Wagner president had grand schemes to turn Wagner into an Amherst-level mecca on NYC pushing proximity to NYC along with a water barrier from the rougher elements of the other boroughs so your sons and daughters remain unaffected. Good idea but it fell through.

I'm going since a) I've got nothing better to do, and b) I want to see an unbeaten Big Red football team play. But for sure it's the Columbia game that Cornell U is gearing up for, for fans / alumni / students. Our class will have a reception Friday as well other classes, there are unspecified but exciting (Cornell tells us) pre-game activities, and there will be a tailgate sponsored by the Cornell Football Assn at Baker - Wien field / complex that may be better to buy into that try to do your own. I read Columbia's tailgating rules and if I got it right, only Columbia boosters in the Kitty Cat Club or whatever they call their upscale fan base, are allowed to park within the complex and only people who park within the complex are allowed to bring in their own liquor.

Statistically, we're due.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Al DeFlorio on September 13, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
Quote from: billhowardWagner, like Stevens in Hoboken, has an awesome view of NYC. The previous Wagner president had grand schemes to turn Wagner into an Amherst-level mecca on NYC pushing proximity to NYC along with a water barrier from the rougher elements of the other boroughs so your sons and daughters remain unaffected. Good idea but it fell through.

I'm going since a) I've got nothing better to do, and b) I want to see an unbeaten Big Red football team play. But for sure it's the Columbia game that Cornell U is gearing up for, for fans / alumni / students. Our class will have a reception Friday as well other classes, there are unspecified but exciting (Cornell tells us) pre-game activities, and there will be a tailgate sponsored by the Cornell Football Assn at Baker - Wien field / complex that may be better to buy into that try to do your own. I read Columbia's tailgating rules and if I got it right, only Columbia boosters in the Kitty Cat Club or whatever they call their upscale fan base, are allowed to park within the complex and only people who park within the complex are allowed to bring in their own liquor.

Statistically, we're due.
And Wagner was beaten badly by...um...Assumption, when their "late rally [consisting of six points] fell short."
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on September 13, 2010, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: billhowardThe previous Wagner president had grand schemes to turn Wagner into an Amherst-level mecca on NYC pushing proximity to NYC along with a water barrier from the rougher elements of the other boroughs so your sons and daughters remain unaffected. Good idea but it fell through.
After Jersey Shore, I think the rest of the boroughs want the water barrier from Angelina, Vinny and the Situation.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: nyc94 on September 16, 2010, 11:15:23 AM
Quote from: Beeeejbut it'll be nice to have another Sy Katz Parade this year on November 13.

With special grand marshal, Governor David A. Paterson!
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll -LGR
Post by: Jim Hyla on September 17, 2010, 12:46:51 PM
Two articles about CU in the Post-Standard. The first about Kent Austin starting, (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2010/09/cornell_football_launches_new_era.html) and the second about the three new high profile coaches. (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2010/09/cornell_basketball_lacrosse_te.html)

That last article has an interesting quote about Tambroni's leaving.
Quote"Jeff surprised me," Noel admitted. "He turned their job down twice. He stated to me clearly that he was going to stay. When the Brown coach (Lars Tiffany) turned them down, they came back to him a third time. He did say no twice."
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on October 01, 2010, 04:26:44 PM
119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: KeithK on October 01, 2010, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.
With hard work and determination we might be able to make it to #124.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: nyc94 on October 01, 2010, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Cornell at #114 Bucknell tomorrow.

Other fun facts from the game notes (http://cornellbigred.com/documents/2010/9/28/BucknellFBNotes.pdf?id=3215): Cornell is on a 10 game losing streak, tied for the longest in the history of the program.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on October 01, 2010, 04:41:33 PM
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Cornell at #114 Bucknell tomorrow.
I work with a Bucknell alumnus who assures me we can't possibly be worse than they.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: nyc94 on October 01, 2010, 05:04:33 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Cornell at #114 Bucknell tomorrow.
I work with a Bucknell alumnus who assures me we can't possibly be worse than they.

The game is supposed to be on CBS College Sports at 3:30 PM EDT.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: phillysportsfan on October 01, 2010, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Hard to believe we are not 124th
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: billhoward on October 01, 2010, 09:44:05 PM
Not many sports where we're currently 48 positions lower than Columbia.  

What does Kent Austin need to show he's a miracle worker? Maybe two good recruiting classes that are all his? I don't think the class of 2014 counts as all his. In fact, I'd like to see the Sun ask some of the players, "What made you choose Cornell when it didn't have a coach until late, late, late in the recruiting cycle?"
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: ugarte on October 01, 2010, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Hard to believe we are not 124th
How hard is it to believe? We are two games into the season and didn't even lose one of them that badly when we played the team ranked #49. I'm surprised we're ranked so low (already).
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on October 02, 2010, 12:03:56 PM
Bonni and I will be at the game in Lewisburg today.  Anybody there stop by; I'll be in the soul-destroyer shirt.  ::banana::
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: phillysportsfan on October 02, 2010, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Hard to believe we are not 124th
How hard is it to believe? We are two games into the season and didn't even lose one of them that badly when we played the team ranked #49. I'm surprised we're ranked so low (already).

True they did play much better against Yale but they lost badly to #99 Wagner who got beat badly by a D2 school
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: munchkin on October 03, 2010, 02:52:50 PM
Quote from: TrotskyBonni and I will be at the game in Lewisburg today.  Anybody there stop by; I'll be in the soul-destroyer shirt.  ::banana::
That shirt just makes me SO happy, I've seen it in random pictures and now it's being used as an identifier.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: French Rage on October 04, 2010, 03:48:54 PM
Jumped to #110!  Suck it, Presbyterian, Campbell, and NC A&T!
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: ugarte on October 04, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Trotsky119 (http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare1aa.htm)th of 124 in I-AA.

Hard to believe we are not 124th
How hard is it to believe? We are two games into the season and didn't even lose one of them that badly when we played the team ranked #49. I'm surprised we're ranked so low (already).

True they did play much better against Yale but they lost badly to #99 Wagner who got beat badly by a D2 school
Two points: First, 99 is not 120; we were beaten by a team that is actually better than us. Second, take a look at who is beneath us - even looking now doesn't mess this up too much - 5 of the bottom 11 schools are in the Pioneer conference. It takes a really awful team to be worse than the worst team in the Pioneer.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Trotsky on October 05, 2010, 09:27:11 AM
Well, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Towerroad on October 05, 2010, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWell, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.

"I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here!"
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: David Harding on October 05, 2010, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWell, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.
That close?
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: Killer on October 05, 2010, 11:04:25 PM
Quote from: Towerroad
Quote from: TrotskyWell, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.

"I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here!"

Folks are getting in the spirt for Atlantic City (that well-known hotbed of college hockey).
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: French Rage on October 06, 2010, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: TrotskyWell, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.

People bet on Ivy League football?  Were these people specifically forbidden to bet on good games?  :P
Title: Re: Football picked eighth in media poll
Post by: phillysportsfan on October 06, 2010, 05:42:41 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: TrotskyWell, Harvard is #33 and we are playing in Alston.  I guess we are probably looking at about a 14 point betting line.

People bet on Ivy League football?  Were these people specifically forbidden to bet on good games?  :P

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/sports/ncaabasketball/06ivy.html
It might not be a bad game to bet given the lack of knowledge and information about the teams by the people who set the betting lines. There was an article in the ny times a few years ago how a bunch of guys bet ivy league friday basketball games because there is nothing else going on and a lot of times the handicappers dont have great information on the teams