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Title: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: phillysportsfan on July 03, 2010, 10:13:44 AM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Even-Harvard-isn-t-immune-to-NCAA-violations?urn=ncaab,253227#remaining-content

Harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for secondary recruiting violations in 2007. Sort of odd after the Ivy league and Harvard said back in 2008 they had done nothing wrong in response to that NY Times article
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/02harvard.html?pagewanted=print
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: ugarte on July 04, 2010, 12:03:53 AM
It's about time. It was obviously shady back then.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: Josh '99 on July 04, 2010, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttp://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Even-Harvard-isn-t-immune-to-NCAA-violations?urn=ncaab,253227#remaining-content

Harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for secondary recruiting violations in 2007. Sort of odd after the Ivy league and Harvard said back in 2008 they had done nothing wrong in response to that NY Times article
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/02harvard.html?pagewanted=print
Man, Amaker gets more sleazy each time I read something new about him.  And to think I was upset when he left Seton Hall.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: ugarte on July 04, 2010, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: phillysportsfanhttp://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Even-Harvard-isn-t-immune-to-NCAA-violations?urn=ncaab,253227#remaining-content

Harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for secondary recruiting violations in 2007. Sort of odd after the Ivy league and Harvard said back in 2008 they had done nothing wrong in response to that NY Times article
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/sports/ncaabasketball/02harvard.html?pagewanted=print
Man, Amaker gets more sleazy each time I read something new about him.  And to think I was upset when he left Seton Hall.
This isn't anything new, really. It is an acknowledgment that what was reported in the NYT in 2008 should have been penalized in 2008.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: David Harding on July 04, 2010, 03:10:53 PM
I wonder what those self-imposed recruiting limits are.  The usual punishment is reducing the number of athletic scholarships allowed, but that's not relevant here.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: Al DeFlorio on July 04, 2010, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: David HardingI wonder what those self-imposed recruiting limits are.  The usual punishment is reducing the number of athletic scholarships allowed, but that's not relevant here.
Maybe they can't promise the recruits they'll get straight A's.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: ugarte on July 04, 2010, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: David HardingI wonder what those self-imposed recruiting limits are.  The usual punishment is reducing the number of athletic scholarships allowed, but that's not relevant here.
I can't top Al's answer so I'll go serious instead... Travel budget? Roster spots? Amaker loses his primo parking space?
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: CornellCommodore on July 05, 2010, 09:12:02 AM
the recruiting restrictions might be something like...they might disallow themselves from communicating for a given period of time, or prevent themselves from contacting recruits in certain ways, or they might simply remove certain coaches from active recruiting.  i know that in the SEC often times offending schools take offending coaches off of main recruiting trails/areas and are not the recruiter of record for higher profile recruits.  

is it too early to call Amaker the 'Calipari of the Ivy League'?
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: ugarte on July 05, 2010, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: CornellCommodoreis it too early to call Amaker the 'Calipari of the Ivy League'?
He isn't the Calipari of anything until he wins something he can subsequently forfeit.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: TimV on July 05, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
Speaking of Calipari, I heard an interview on ESPN radio the day after the NBA draft, when 5 Kentucky players got taken in the first round.  He was talking about who the coach was that couldn't win the NCAA championship with five first-round picks on his roster.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: Trotsky on July 06, 2010, 12:13:11 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioMaybe they can't promise the recruits they'll get straight A's.
No, that's okay.  The rules only prohibit "benefits not enjoyed by the general student population."
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: scoop85 on July 06, 2010, 12:45:07 PM
Calipari was also quoted in SI to the effect that he was prouder having 5 first-round picks than if his team had won the NCAA title.  Weird priorities to me, but it seems consistent with his character.
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: KeithK on July 06, 2010, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: scoop85Calipari was also quoted in SI to the effect that he was prouder having 5 first-round picks than if his team had won the NCAA title.  Weird priorities to me, but it seems consistent with his character.
If he meant that he was proud of having molded five young men into top notch athletes and set them up for success at the professional level I wouldn't think his priorities were out of whack. Winning championships isn't supposed to be the end all be all of college athletics.  But in Calipari's case he was probably just tooting his horn for having recruited these guys (especially since it's not like these five played four years and had a lot of time to be molded).
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: Trotsky on July 07, 2010, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: scoop85Calipari was also quoted in SI to the effect that he was prouder having 5 first-round picks than if his team had won the NCAA title.  Weird priorities to me, but it seems consistent with his character.
If he meant that he was proud of having molded five young men into top notch athletes and set them up for success at the professional level I wouldn't think his priorities were out of whack. Winning championships isn't supposed to be the end all be all of college athletics.  But in Calipari's case he was probably just tooting his horn for having recruited these guys (especially since it's not like these five played four years and had a lot of time to be molded).
I'm pretty sure he was saying, "Play for me.  You'll make enough for all the hookers and blow you'll ever want.  Oh, and a house for grandmama."
Title: Re: harvard imposes recruiting limits for 2010-2011 basketball for cheating back in 2007
Post by: amerks127 on July 22, 2010, 08:39:21 PM
An article on ESPN today about issues in NCAA basketball had this to say about the cleanest/dirtiest leagues (in terms of committing major violations).

QuoteOf the 20 coaches surveyed, 11 said the Big Ten was the cleanest in the country. Three others cited the land where time stood still, also known as the scholarship-less Ivy League. (Although even the Ancient Eight earned one disparaging nod: "The Ivy League,'' one coach said before pausing to add, "I mean the Ivy League a couple of years ago, before all of that stuff at Harvard." )

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=5398415