OK I got tired of "selection show" and felt this is a good way to get on to the NCAAs.
As reported in the Sun: (http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2010/03/18/cornell-players-share-few-laughs-during-thursdays-media-day-ncaa-t)
QuoteSenior tri-captain/center Jeff Foote left many reporters scratching their heads following today's player press conference. When asked about how the team balances basketball with the academic rigors of Cornell, Foote responded by talking about yesterday's bus ride to the hotel and police escorts –– adding that tomorrow's matchup with No. 5 Temple is "anyone's game" and that he's "really looking forward to it."
and the answer is:
QuoteHead coach Steve Donahue later clarified that Foote had lost a shooting bet with Louis Dale, and the conditions were that the loser had to answer a question wrong during the press conference. "They think that's funny in the Ivy League," Donahue said.
Quote from: Jim HylaOK I got tired of "selection show" and felt this is a good way to get on to the NCAAs.
As reported in the Sun: (http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2010/03/18/cornell-players-share-few-laughs-during-thursdays-media-day-ncaa-t)QuoteSenior tri-captain/center Jeff Foote left many reporters scratching their heads following today's player press conference. When asked about how the team balances basketball with the academic rigors of Cornell, Foote responded by talking about yesterday's bus ride to the hotel and police escorts –– adding that tomorrow's matchup with No. 5 Temple is "anyone's game" and that he's "really looking forward to it."
and the answer is:
QuoteHead coach Steve Donahue later clarified that Foote had lost a shooting bet with Louis Dale, and the conditions were that the loser had to answer a question wrong during the press conference. "They think that's funny in the Ivy League," Donahue said.
There's a video of this here (http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/NCAA-Tournament-Updates/7n9mG5bDBE-vpF3VPBvlLw.cspx) and it's just as hilarious as it sounds.
For a team that was so low for so three decades, this is a wonderful time for Cornell basketball. It may be humbling that what is Cornell's best team ever (?) might not survive the first round ... or it might even make it through the first weekend. I'm in awe of what Steve Donahue has done. I do not want to be the first person to update the Donohue-out-of-here thread after Friday's game. Let's accept for some brief moment Cornell's time in the sun. LGR!
Quote from: semsoxQuote from: Jim HylaOK I got tired of "selection show" and felt this is a good way to get on to the NCAAs.
As reported in the Sun: (http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2010/03/18/cornell-players-share-few-laughs-during-thursdays-media-day-ncaa-t)QuoteSenior tri-captain/center Jeff Foote left many reporters scratching their heads following today's player press conference. When asked about how the team balances basketball with the academic rigors of Cornell, Foote responded by talking about yesterday's bus ride to the hotel and police escorts –– adding that tomorrow's matchup with No. 5 Temple is "anyone's game" and that he's "really looking forward to it."
and the answer is:
QuoteHead coach Steve Donahue later clarified that Foote had lost a shooting bet with Louis Dale, and the conditions were that the loser had to answer a question wrong during the press conference. "They think that's funny in the Ivy League," Donahue said.
There's a video of this here (http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/NCAA-Tournament-Updates/7n9mG5bDBE-vpF3VPBvlLw.cspx) and it's just as hilarious as it sounds.
Funny, thanks.........
Quote from: semsoxQuote from: Jim HylaOK I got tired of "selection show" and felt this is a good way to get on to the NCAAs.
As reported in the Sun: (http://cornellsun.com/section/sports/content/2010/03/18/cornell-players-share-few-laughs-during-thursdays-media-day-ncaa-t)QuoteSenior tri-captain/center Jeff Foote left many reporters scratching their heads following today's player press conference. When asked about how the team balances basketball with the academic rigors of Cornell, Foote responded by talking about yesterday's bus ride to the hotel and police escorts –– adding that tomorrow's matchup with No. 5 Temple is "anyone's game" and that he's "really looking forward to it."
and the answer is:
QuoteHead coach Steve Donahue later clarified that Foote had lost a shooting bet with Louis Dale, and the conditions were that the loser had to answer a question wrong during the press conference. "They think that's funny in the Ivy League," Donahue said.
There's a video of this here (http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/NCAA-Tournament-Updates/7n9mG5bDBE-vpF3VPBvlLw.cspx) and it's just as hilarious as it sounds.
Awesome. He did a really good job of not cracking during the answer, even though you can almost see it, and he definitely did after he got it out.
This has been a great tournament so far, Lobo you must have been a little scared during that Lobos Montana game
Also article about Barry Leonard in the NY times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/sports/ncaabasketball/19radio.html?ref=sports
In Jacksonville now, cannot wait for this game, been waiting for this game this whole year, dont think I will sleep tonight
Lets Go Red!!!!
Quote from: phillysportsfanThis has been a great tournament so far, Lobo you must have been a little scared during that Lobos Montana game
Also article about Barry Leonard in the NY times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/19/sports/ncaabasketball/19radio.html?ref=sports
In Jacksonville now, cannot wait for this game, been waiting for this game this whole year, dont think I will sleep tonight
Lets Go Red!!!!
I'm pretty much used to it at this point. They've let teams stay in games all year, tonight was no different. The important thing is they make the baskets/free throws when it matters. Washington will be a tough matchup.
This game is in half an hour. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
5-4 owls.
19-11 Cornell, ~12 minutes left in the first half. Cornell looking very good on both ends of the floor. No apparent nerves.
27-18 with 5:13 left in the half, going into 1-1 foul shots.
Cornell up 7, 3:47 remaining in the half.
Cornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
I hope this time it's a different story Lobo... But I'm definitely almost expecting a collapse...
Quote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
Reverse woofing work in bball?
Quote from: martyQuote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
Reverse woofing work in bball?
: )
Looks like it's working!!!
Did I just undo my woof?
Quote from: YankeeLoboLooks like it's working!!!
Did I just undo my woof?
It's college basketball, a lot can happen late in the game, nothing is safe yet.
// Hopefully that neutralizes it.
Big Red up by 17, 3:48 left. ::pray::
I think Temple has given up. Go Big Red!
Quote from: KenPBig Red up by 17, 3:48 left. ::pray::
How much time left? ::woot::
18.4 seconds
Sweet.
It's Final. Cornell wins!
Cornell advances to the second round- first Ivy win in tourney since 1998.
First time ever that Cornell has advanced.
In contrast with a certain other Ivy League team in past years in a certain other NCAA tournament, Cornell does so not suck.
Congratulations on this historic victory.::banana::
What an amazing game. Cornell was amazing all game. Temple was exactly the kind of team that Cornell can play: good penetration defense at the expense of perimeter D, a willingness to try to guard Foote one-on-one and really sloppy passing. Our guys were never nervous, took advantage of all the opportunities that Temple gave up and played smothering defense until they called off the dogs late.
Great job by Coach Donahue and the entire Cornell squad.
LET'S GO RED!
Edit: Since nobody posted it, Cornell 78, Temple 65. w00t!
Quote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
You really do put your foot in all the time, don't you.
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
You really do put your foot in all the time, don't you.
In his defense, IIRC, Temple did outscore us in the final 2 minutes. hahahahaha
Hmm... maybe a round 2 upset as well? It would be really sweet if we can make it back to Syracuse next weekend ::banana::
Quote from: ajh258Hmm... maybe a round 2 upset as well? It would be really sweet if we can make it back to Syracuse next weekend ::banana::
Upset? I think Wofford has a great chance to beat Wisconsin.
How quickly can Cornell raise funds and start construction on the Steve Donahue Athletic Center? A sweet 6,000 seat state-of-the-art facility for basketball, volleyball, (select) wrestling events, and all future Donahue family reunions...**]
I was impressed with their attitude. I mean, yeah every time wants to win, but they just put in all their effort all game, even when Temple started to come back they just play hard but calmly. They decided they would win and just did it.
Is there a set time for the next game?
Quote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
You really do put your foot in all the time, don't you.
It's called reverse woofing, I was being sarcastic.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: ajh258Hmm... maybe a round 2 upset as well? It would be really sweet if we can make it back to Syracuse next weekend ::banana::
Upset? I think Wofford has a great chance to beat Wisconsin.
Man, so close to looking like a genius. Not BEING a genius by any means, but looking like one.
Quote from: YankeeLoboQuote from: Al DeFlorioQuote from: YankeeLoboCornell athletics doesn't win games like this -- hockey in 2003, 2005, 2006, lacrosse in 2009, etc. As much as it pains me to say it, they'll do their usual stay competitive for 38 minutes and then blow it like they did at Kansas.
You really do put your foot in all the time, don't you.
It's called reverse woofing, I was being sarcastic.
Reserving woofing is the most offensive of all:
http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~dwilson/rsfc/Woof.html#12
The information on that page can't be accurate. Our opponent is trying to trick us.
edit...nevermind
Quote from: French RageIs there a set time for the next game?
Just saw on CBS -
2:50 pm EDT tip-off on Sunday.
Nice John Feinstein piece in the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/03/19/ST2010031904937.html?sid=ST2010031904937
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNice John Feinstein piece in the Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2010/03/19/ST2010031904937.html?sid=ST2010031904937
At least he answered this one correctly.
QuoteA Wisconsin TV reporter asked Foote what he knew about Wisconsin. Foote grinned. "Well, I know 'That 70s Show' was set there," he said. "And they're good with cheese."
I was astonished to see the sports section cover story in the Post. Even more astonished to find John Feinstein's article inside. I had to share ... attached is an image of today's sports section.
Seth Davis at SI: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/seth_davis/03/20/friday.superlatives/
Quote from: Liz98I was astonished to see the sports section cover story in the Post. Even more astonished to find John Feinstein's article inside. I had to share ... attached is an image of today's sports section.
maybe someone lost a bet inside the sports dept. **]
seriously - Maryland game was a late game... and compared to Thursday, the Cornell game was the top hoops story of the day. John Feinstein also had Donahue on during his radio show earlier this week.
Quote from: redGrinchQuote from: Liz98I was astonished to see the sports section cover story in the Post. Even more astonished to find John Feinstein's article inside. I had to share ... attached is an image of today's sports section.
maybe someone lost a bet inside the sports dept. **]
seriously - Maryland game was a late game... and compared to Thursday, the Cornell game was the top hoops story of the day. John Feinstein also had Donahue on during his radio show earlier this week.
Not surprised at all with Feinstein. He never misses an opportunity for a story about the Ivy or Patriot Leagues. In addition to his books, I think he was also the one to first give CU a vote in the national polls.
The Page 1 love also extends to such respected publications as the NY Post today:
http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/03/20/covers/back032010.jpg
Quote from: RichHQuote from: redGrinchQuote from: Liz98I was astonished to see the sports section cover story in the Post. Even more astonished to find John Feinstein's article inside. I had to share ... attached is an image of today's sports section.
maybe someone lost a bet inside the sports dept. **]
seriously - Maryland game was a late game... and compared to Thursday, the Cornell game was the top hoops story of the day. John Feinstein also had Donahue on during his radio show earlier this week.
Not surprised at all with Feinstein. He never misses an opportunity for a story about the Ivy or Patriot Leagues. In addition to his books, I think he was also the one to first give CU a vote in the national polls.
The Page 1 love also extends to such respected publications as the NY Post today:
(see previous post)
And Newsday, despite the trite headline:
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs036.snc3/12402_1369823201179_1099697422_31106599_3701453_s.jpg)
Ok, let's go Red! My Lobos didn't even show up to the game today. It was over in the first 10 minutes. I thought they'd come to play. Very disappointing.
I seem to recall you were sure the Red season was over with the Penn loss. Back on the bandwagon?
Quote from: dag14I seem to recall you were sure the Red season was over with the Penn loss. Back on the bandwagon?
Well, I was having a tough week and I overreacted. I'm a New York fan. Like Chicago fans, we're self loathing and negative all the time, even when our teams are doing well. I didn't believe in them even before the Temple game but I've got to give them credit. I didn't expect this out of them.
Quote from: I'm a New York fan. Like Chicago fans, we're self loathing and negative all the time, even when our teams are doing well.
Whoa whoa whoa. I think you meant Boston, not NY (unless of course you're a Mets fan). NYY fans are not self-loathing/negative despite what Francesa says or does.
Quote from: tretiakQuote from: I'm a New York fan. Like Chicago fans, we're self loathing and negative all the time, even when our teams are doing well.
Whoa whoa whoa. I think you meant Boston, not NY (unless of course you're a Mets fan). NYY fans are not self-loathing/negative despite what Francesa says or does.
More a Mets/Jets thing than a Yankees/Giants one.
Did anyone watch the Kentucky - Wake game? Jesus. I'm not sure I even want to beat Wisconsin anymore.*
* This is a lie. I very much want to beat Wisconsin.
My housemate is a Wisconsin Alum. He refers to '06 as "a very good hockey year". We have a 6-pack bet on tomorrow's outcome. So much riding on this game! ::drunk::
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: tretiakQuote from: I'm a New York fan. Like Chicago fans, we're self loathing and negative all the time, even when our teams are doing well.
Whoa whoa whoa. I think you meant Boston, not NY (unless of course you're a Mets fan). NYY fans are not self-loathing/negative despite what Francesa says or does.
More a Mets/Jets thing than a Yankees/Giants one.
Did anyone watch the Kentucky - Wake game? Jesus. I'm not sure I even want to beat Wisconsin anymore.*
* This is a lie. I very much want to beat Wisconsin.
The opportunity to play Kentucky would be amazing since it would be basically a home game at the Carrier Dome. No one thought we could challenge Kansas, anything can happen
Cant wait for tomorrows game
Interesting sidelight to the Northern Iowa upset of Kansas: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100320/SPORTS05/100320010/1016/Keeler-Northern-Iowa-looked-No.-1-in-the-eye-and-didn-t-back-down
"We kind of remembered what Cornell did to them," Kerwin Dunham, the Panther guard from Bondurant added, referring to a 71-66 Jayhawks win back in Lawrence on January 6. "They weren't able to pull it out, but we got that film and coach (Ben Jacobson) had realized how physical with Kansas Cornell was. And Cornell is a very good team and we kind of implemented that game plan."
Apologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
Quote from: BeeeejApologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
WCBS in NYC has the Cornell game listed on their website.
Quote from: Jacob '06Quote from: BeeeejApologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
WCBS in NYC has the Cornell game listed on their website.
THANK YOU!!
Quote from: Jacob '06Quote from: BeeeejApologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
WCBS in NYC has the Cornell game listed on their website.
They will probably cut in and out since there are three other games going on: Georgia Tech v. Ohio State at 2:20 PM EDT, Michigan State v. Maryland at 2:30 PM, and Missouri v. West Virginia at 2:40 PM.
Quote from: nyc94Quote from: Jacob '06Quote from: BeeeejApologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
WCBS in NYC has the Cornell game listed on their website.
They will probably cut in and out since there are three other games going on: Georgia Tech v. Ohio State at 2:20 PM EDT, Michigan State v. Maryland at 2:30 PM, and Missouri v. West Virginia at 2:40 PM.
They are likely to stick with Cornell - Wisconsin unless it turns into a blowout with the exception of a possible check in to the other games if there is the possibility of an exciting finish.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: nyc94Quote from: Jacob '06Quote from: BeeeejApologies if this has been asked elsewhere, I have a few hundred unread messages - do we have any idea with any measure of certainty whether Cornell vs. Wisconsin will be on CBS or CBS-HD rather than having to find it on DirecTV? I am otherwise committed until this game will be over, and I'm DVRing. :-/
WCBS in NYC has the Cornell game listed on their website.
They will probably cut in and out since there are three other games going on: Georgia Tech v. Ohio State at 2:20 PM EDT, Michigan State v. Maryland at 2:30 PM, and Missouri v. West Virginia at 2:40 PM.
They are likely to stick with Cornell - Wisconsin unless it turns into a blowout with the exception of a possible check in to the other games if there is the possibility of an exciting finish.
I didn't mean to imply they would give up on Cornell-Wisconsin and completely switch to another game. And with the halftime lead Cornell has I'm sure they will stick with it. But if the lead stays around 10 points I won't be surprised if they cut away for five minutes or so. During the Temple game I went online when they cut away.
edit: And I told you so. :-) CBS cuts to Ohio State and Ga. Tech. for the end of that game (Ohio State by 6 1:20 to go).
Who would imagine cutting away from the Cornell because it's a blow that *Cornell* was the team on the up side? Amazing. Good thing the webcast keeps going.
The webcast can't go on forever. It's over!!
87-69!!!!
Not quite like Princeton's style in the mid-90's- winning only if they kept the other team below 50 or so.
Congratulations to the team! Never in my lifetime did I expect this to happen...
U.N.R.E.A.L. Great great weekend by our boys!!! Sweet 16.....let it sink in.......SWEET 16!!! With some luck, and the right bounces from here.....?????
Another funny story of the basketball team messing with the media.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=df-cornell032110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Louis Dale dropped a quote from "Friday Night Lights" into an answer at the postgame news conference:
"We've got eight seniors on this team, and we want to take this ride as long as we can because after this it's just nothing but babies and memories, so we'll just keep going," Dale said.
They'll need some bigtime luck if they're going to beat Kentucky. I think Temple and Wisconsin were ideal matchups from the standpoint of team athleticism. Kentucky has 4 NBA lottery picks on their team and they have great guards which hurt Cornell in their losses to Cuse and Seton Hall.
I guess it's remotely possible, but it would undoubtedly be the biggest upset in NCAA history.
Quote from: YankeeLoboThey'll need some bigtime luck if they're going to beat Kentucky. I think Temple and Wisconsin were ideal matchups from the standpoint of team athleticism. Kentucky has 4 NBA lottery picks on their team and they have great guards which hurt Cornell in their losses to Cuse and Seton Hall.
I guess it's remotely possible, but it would undoubtedly be the biggest upset in NCAA history.
I disagree with none of this except the sad-sack demeanor and "biggest upset." It won't even be the biggest upset in the tournament - that would be Ohio over Georgetown - much less the biggest upset in history. (Richmond over Syracuse? Hampton over Iowa State?)
game is on Thursday, 9:57pm btw.
Anyone know if the CU ticket office will have an allotment available tomorrow?
Incredible weekend from the basketball team. They didn't just get to the Sweet 16; they flat out dominated their competition.
But they should not look past this Wildcat team; they are very talented and it wouldn't surprise me to see them give the Big Red a run for their money. ;)
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: YankeeLoboThey'll need some bigtime luck if they're going to beat Kentucky. I think Temple and Wisconsin were ideal matchups from the standpoint of team athleticism. Kentucky has 4 NBA lottery picks on their team and they have great guards which hurt Cornell in their losses to Cuse and Seton Hall.
I guess it's remotely possible, but it would undoubtedly be the biggest upset in NCAA history.
I disagree with none of this except the sad-sack demeanor and "biggest upset." It won't even be the biggest upset in the tournament - that would be Ohio over Georgetown - much less the biggest upset in history. (Richmond over Syracuse? Hampton over Iowa State?)
I call it the biggest upset because 1) Kentucky was the #1 team or around the top 3 in the NCAA for the entire year, 2) they have a team of at least 4 NBA lottery picks, Cornell has none, 3) Cornell is a 12 seed, Kentucky is a 1 seed, 4) it's a Sweet 16 game, so it carries more weight than your average 2/15, 1/16 meeting in the first round. I could keep going, but I won't. If Cornell wins, it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in NCAA history, maybe not the biggest, but one of them. They might have to make a movie about it.
Quote from: YankeeLoboQuote from: ugarteQuote from: YankeeLoboThey'll need some bigtime luck if they're going to beat Kentucky. I think Temple and Wisconsin were ideal matchups from the standpoint of team athleticism. Kentucky has 4 NBA lottery picks on their team and they have great guards which hurt Cornell in their losses to Cuse and Seton Hall.
I guess it's remotely possible, but it would undoubtedly be the biggest upset in NCAA history.
I disagree with none of this except the sad-sack demeanor and "biggest upset." It won't even be the biggest upset in the tournament - that would be Ohio over Georgetown - much less the biggest upset in history. (Richmond over Syracuse? Hampton over Iowa State?)
I call it the biggest upset because 1) Kentucky was the #1 team or around the top 3 in the NCAA for the entire year, 2) they have a team of at least 4 NBA lottery picks, Cornell has none, 3) Cornell is a 12 seed, Kentucky is a 1 seed, 4) it's a Sweet 16 game, so it carries more weight than your average 2/15, 1/16 meeting in the first round. I could keep going, but I won't. If Cornell wins, it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in NCAA history, maybe not the biggest, but one of them. They might have to make a movie about it.
Considering they already played with Kansas earlier in the year, and Kansas was a higher seed than Kentucky, I don't think it is remotely out of line to think Cornell can also play with Kentucky. With the right bounces and some good shooting, I think it is very reasonable to think the Big Red can beat the Big Blue.
For some reason, you insist on being completely negative in every one of your posts. You gave them no chance against either of the teams they just dominated, so I don't expect you to give them a chance now.
Even you might think Cornell would do well against your Lobos now. Maybe this is why you are exhibiting such an insecurity complex.
ESPN bracketologist calling Ryan Wittman "Randy Wittman" in predicting our loss to Temple.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5000089
Earlier today on Seth Davis's blog: "Cornell's performance was Sharpie-riffic. They have been unguardable these first two games. Will be fun game in Sweet 16 vs UK."
Something else working in Cornell's favor is that they have played in the Carrier Dome thus should be familiar with the lighting and the baskets.
One thing that you often see in the NC$$ tournament games at neutral site venues and venues that usually do not host basketball games is poor shooting, at least in the first half. It often takes the teams the better part of the first half to feel comfortable with the lighting and the bounce off the rims etc.
LGR!
ESPN noted that the home court advantage may not be as good as we were hoping: Kentucky travels insanely well and they had a day to buy tickets before the Wisconsin game. Booooooooooooo!
Quote from: ugarteESPN noted that the home court advantage may not be as good as we were hoping: Kentucky travels insanely well and they had a day to buy tickets before the Wisconsin game. Booooooooooooo!
I was watching the tickets on stubhub for about an hour after our game ended. The cheapest went from 68 bucks to 99 bucks in that time. This could have also been influenced by the WVU game ending around the same time though.
n/m
Quote from: nr53My housemate is a Wisconsin Alum. He refers to '06 as "a very good hockey year". We have a 6-pack bet on tomorrow's outcome. So much riding on this game! ::drunk::
Mmm... free beer :-D
Quote from: cth95Quote from: YankeeLoboQuote from: ugarteQuote from: YankeeLoboThey'll need some bigtime luck if they're going to beat Kentucky. I think Temple and Wisconsin were ideal matchups from the standpoint of team athleticism. Kentucky has 4 NBA lottery picks on their team and they have great guards which hurt Cornell in their losses to Cuse and Seton Hall.
I guess it's remotely possible, but it would undoubtedly be the biggest upset in NCAA history.
I disagree with none of this except the sad-sack demeanor and "biggest upset." It won't even be the biggest upset in the tournament - that would be Ohio over Georgetown - much less the biggest upset in history. (Richmond over Syracuse? Hampton over Iowa State?)
I call it the biggest upset because 1) Kentucky was the #1 team or around the top 3 in the NCAA for the entire year, 2) they have a team of at least 4 NBA lottery picks, Cornell has none, 3) Cornell is a 12 seed, Kentucky is a 1 seed, 4) it's a Sweet 16 game, so it carries more weight than your average 2/15, 1/16 meeting in the first round. I could keep going, but I won't. If Cornell wins, it will go down as one of the biggest upsets in NCAA history, maybe not the biggest, but one of them. They might have to make a movie about it.
Considering they already played with Kansas earlier in the year, and Kansas was a higher seed than Kentucky, I don't think it is remotely out of line to think Cornell can also play with Kentucky. With the right bounces and some good shooting, I think it is very reasonable to think the Big Red can beat the Big Blue.
For some reason, you insist on being completely negative in every one of your posts. You gave them no chance against either of the teams they just dominated, so I don't expect you to give them a chance now.
Even you might think Cornell would do well against your Lobos now. Maybe this is why you are exhibiting such an insecurity complex.
Awesome to just bask in this team's success. Can't be spoiled by anything now. Not even this guy Yankee Lobo who keeps showing he that knows less than nothing about this year's basketball field. Remember these beauties, among a lot of others. It must be hard to post with both your feet in your mouth.
When Cornell got Temple
"Terrible Matchup"
Yup - that's just what it was, a terrible matchup.
And then this one
"Temple's not going to overlook us, so we're going to get one of their better games. It'll be close but I don't think Cornell should be considered one of those more dangerous 12 seeds. Temple has the talent to dominate this game. Bilas is talking up Cornell, but he's also talking up Northern Iowa who I've seen play multiple times and really isn't that good."
Yup - Northern Iowa really is not that good.
Ands what's with with the "us" and "we". We get it - you haven't liked Cornell (and Northern Iowa) to do anything in this tournament. We get it.
Here's the complete transcript of the post-game press conference from Sunday: http://www.ncaa.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/ncaa/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/032110CornellWiscoQuotes
It's really worth going to the end and reading the Wisconsin coach's comments about the Cornell team, about Donahue, and about Donahue's comments regarding Noel.
It'd be nice if the NCAA's transcription service didn't invert our C logo....
So, how are they going to work this magical run into an episode of The Office?
You guys should read some of the Kentucky online forum comments at CatsPause.com There are some respectful comments on there, but there's also quite a few of self confidence over-indulgence (which is putting it politely).
Here's just a sample:
"Cornell owns a recent win over Wisconsin, and I give them full credit for that. And I also give them credit for getting better over the course of the season.
I am not worried at all about winning this game. Our speed will dazzle Cornell, and they won't know what hit them. I look for a 20-30 point blowout in this game."
AND
"I'll put it to you this way...I refuse to be worried about freaking Cornell!!! All I know is our season is not ending to them! Come on guys we're better than this. No way in hell we are losing this game. Worry about WVU or Duke beating us, but Cornell?! Come on! We are Kentucky and we're playing like Kentucky. They don't have a prayer!"
AND
"If UK was playing Cornell in Chess I would give the edge to them, but in baskeball I say the Cats roll."
AND
"Cornell, a team full of slow, unathletic white guys are giddy over beating a team(Wisconsin) that plays the slowest form of basketball known to man kind, even slower than Tubby Ball. That matchup fit into their hands PERFECTLY. Can't wait to see the slow stiffs try to run with our Thoroughbreds."
The Kentucky fans on their scout.com forum said that catspause is a bad pretty bad representation of their fan group, that is where all the jackasses go, although I think of all Kentucky fans as jackasses
I almost forgot to include these pearls (from CatsPause.com)
"This game will be a beat down. Cal has these guys really focused and
playing great.Our defense will smother them and their missed 3 pointers
will lead to dunks. Thanks for coming Cornell, just keep the bus running
and enjoy the ride home. GO BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!"
AND
"Cornell can have all the bulletin board material they want; they don't have a chance in hell of winning."
AND
"Guys how can this Kentucky team lose?"
I don't think it's overconfidence to believe that Kentucky will handle Cornell easily. Kentucky has an unbelievable amount of talent on their roster.
Quote from: Jordan 04I don't think it's overconfidence to believe that Kentucky will handle Cornell easily. Kentucky has an unbelievable amount of talent on their roster.
Did you guys actually watch the game this weekend? Cornell played virtually PERFECT basketball over the weekend. They shot 60% from the field. It doesn't matter who you are, if you shoot 60% you're almost guaranteed to win. Can they sustain that pace of play? That's the big question mark. I'm not trying to put them down, I'm just saying they won games in which they played mistake free, perfect basketball for 40 minutes. They'll need to play like that against Kentucky for it to be close. If they play their "average" game (<50% shooting), they're toast. That's why this game has the potential to be a close battle or a colossal blowout if Cornell loses the fairy dust from last weekend.
I expect them to show up and play like they did last weekend, but I wouldn't be surprised if they went cold and lost by 25 points. You live by the 3, you die by the 3.
Quote from: YankeeLoboQuote from: Jordan 04I don't think it's overconfidence to believe that Kentucky will handle Cornell easily. Kentucky has an unbelievable amount of talent on their roster.
Did you guys actually watch the game this weekend? Cornell played virtually PERFECT basketball over the weekend. They shot 60% from the field. It doesn't matter who you are, if you shoot 60% you're almost guaranteed to win. Can they sustain that pace of play? That's the big question mark. I'm not trying to put them down, I'm just saying they won games in which they played mistake free, perfect basketball for 40 minutes. They'll need to play like that against Kentucky for it to be close. If they play their "average" game (<50% shooting), they're toast. That's why this game has the potential to be a close battle or a colossal blowout if Cornell loses the fairy dust from last weekend.
Great, now I'm on the negative side of YankeeLobo.
Cornell shot 60% (and was lights-out against Temple) because neither of those teams could simultaneously guard the perimeter and single Foote in the paint. Stanford could in '08, Missouri could in '09 - both because Foote wasn't as good then and because both Stanford and Missouri were both much more athletic than Cornell. I get the sense that Kentucky can as well, and Cornell's shooting percentage will drop.
The only advantage Cornell has is maturity. That is not a small advantage but I don't think it is going to be enough. I want so badly to be wrong and I'll be happy to eat my words if it comes to pass. Right now the line is at 9 and if I were a betting man I'd lay that number.
Jon Jaques was on NPR a few minutes ago.
Audio will be available in a couple of hours.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125030061
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: YankeeLoboQuote from: Jordan 04I don't think it's overconfidence to believe that Kentucky will handle Cornell easily. Kentucky has an unbelievable amount of talent on their roster.
Did you guys actually watch the game this weekend? Cornell played virtually PERFECT basketball over the weekend. They shot 60% from the field. It doesn't matter who you are, if you shoot 60% you're almost guaranteed to win. Can they sustain that pace of play? That's the big question mark. I'm not trying to put them down, I'm just saying they won games in which they played mistake free, perfect basketball for 40 minutes. They'll need to play like that against Kentucky for it to be close. If they play their "average" game (<50% shooting), they're toast. That's why this game has the potential to be a close battle or a colossal blowout if Cornell loses the fairy dust from last weekend.
Great, now I'm on the negative side of YankeeLobo.
Cornell shot 60% (and was lights-out against Temple) because neither of those teams could simultaneously guard the perimeter and single Foote in the paint. Stanford could in '08, Missouri could in '09 - both because Foote wasn't as good then and because both Stanford and Missouri were both much more athletic than Cornell. I get the sense that Kentucky can as well, and Cornell's shooting percentage will drop.
The only advantage Cornell has is maturity. That is not a small advantage but I don't think it is going to be enough. I want so badly to be wrong and I'll be happy to eat my words if it comes to pass. Right now the line is at 9 and if I were a betting man I'd lay that number.
Yes, a smart betting man would pound the crap out of Kentucky at -9. But I'm not a betting man.
Just enjoy watching the Red in the Sweet 16 on the same court with arguably the best program in NCAA history. The lead up and hype will be fun. Seeing Louis Dale vs John Wall and Jeff Foote vs Demarcus Cousins will be interesting to watch. Whatever happens afterwards is irrelevant - if we lose, no big deal, if we win, the dream stays alive!
Quote from: Weingarm"Cornell, a team full of slow, unathletic white guys
Anyone else find that quote amusing coming out of Kentucky?
A co-worker of mine is a Kentucky grad and a BBall fan. His analysis was that if Cornell was stupid enough to try to run with Kentucky or to try a man-to-man D, we'd get our heads handed to us. But if we slowed the tempo and and threw a lot of zone at them, we had a reasonable chance. He said they are awful against a good zone defense.
Quote from: nyc94Quote from: Weingarm"Cornell, a team full of slow, unathletic white guys
Anyone else find that quote amusing coming out of Kentucky?
Yep. Texas Western, anyone?
Great article about the basketball team from the perspective of Kevin Boothe, the Cornell grad and reserve offensive lineman for the Giants. Also has a mention of Cornell's great weekend in athletics and positive note on Cornell's chances.
Of all the BCS players on the Giants, Boothe is the only Giant whose college is still in the tournament.
www.Giants.com (http://www.giants.com/news/headlines/story.asp?story_id=43985)
Quote from: Weingarm"I'll put it to you this way...I refuse to be worried about freaking Cornell!!! All I know is our season is not ending to them! Come on guys we're better than this. No way in hell we are losing this game. Worry about WVU or Duke beating us, but Cornell?! Come on! We are Kentucky and we're playing like Kentucky. They don't have a prayer!"
AND
"If UK was playing Cornell in Chess I would give the edge to them, but in baskeball I say the Cats roll."
These cats are obviously not history majors (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1697&dat=19661229&id=ZeYcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CpcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6029,5625164).
There are lots of reasons to think Cornell won't win. That being said, there is no reason to think Cornell can't win.
Quote from: KenPThere are lots of reasons to think Cornell won't win. That being said, there is no reason to think Cornell can't win.
Well put. The mantra, in basketball as much as hockey, is just win. It worked in the ECACs.
Quote from: KenPThere are lots of reasons to think Cornell won't win. That being said, there is no reason to think Cornell can't win.
Precisely. But if Kentucky wants to be overconfident, I'm down with that.
Quote from: SwampyThese cats are obviously not history majors (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1697&dat=19661229&id=ZeYcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=CpcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6029,5625164).
If Cornell can beat Pat Riley, they can beat John Calipari.
Ugh, the guy on ESPN leading into the story by Jeremy Schaap called Ryan Wittman Randy Wittman.
Francesa now discussing the spate of suicides on the FAN
Did Cornell play man vs SU? kent is more athletic a guard than SU but not anywhere else, the key is taking good shots and limit TO's, limit those and you slow down Kentucky. Since when has Kentucky shown they really want to play D on a team that moves the ball around.. teams in the SEC dont really work the ball that well.
and they act like Dale is a slow plodding guard as well..
If you had to quantify their chances to beat Kentucky, what number would you put on it? I think 5% is about right. Initially, I had a 25-30% chance to beat Temple and 40% to beat Wisconsin. It's too bad we're not playing Duke, I think we'd be favored to win that game.
Quote from: YankeeLoboIf you had to quantify their chances to beat Kentucky, what number would you put on it? I think 5% is about right. Initially, I had a 25-30% chance to beat Temple and 40% to beat Wisconsin. It's too bad we're not playing Duke, I think we'd be favored to win that game.
I figured 40% against Temple. After watching Temple and Wisconsin-Wofford, I thought 60-70% against Wisconsin. I'd say 10-15% against Kentucky; I've heard from some Kentucky die-hards that the defensive style Cornell plays has given this Wildcat team fits (but they still end up winning most of those games, so... 10-15%.)
Just noticed that Jay Bilas, who picked Cornell to make the Elite Eight (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/7037/video-ncaa-tournament-picks), will be the analyst for Thursday's game.
http://www.hdsportsguide.com/news/headline/2010/ncaa-tournament-sweet-16-announcersdates-and-times/
A Daily Herald (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=367850) sports writer rambles.
Quote from: Mike ImrenImagine if Cornell advances to the Final Four in the NCAA Tournament.
The Big Red already is in the Final Sixteen, where Thursday it will meet Kentucky.
"It's a winnable game," Cornell center Jeff Foote was quoted as saying.
You would think that somebody from an Ivy League school would be too intelligent to blurt out something so outrageous.
Then again, maybe Foote knows something we don't. He should after matriculating at such a prestigious institution as Cornell.
Foote, a 7-foot senior, probably figured out on a chalkboard straight out of "Good Will Hunting" the probabilities of beating Kentucky.
Let's say for conversation's sake that the young scholar is on to something and Cornell does beat Kentucky. The outcome could be college basketball's turning point.
Just last week United States education secretary Arne Duncan rattled higher education with a radical proposal.
(First off we'll concede that maybe we shouldn't take Duncan seriously. There was no "i" in basketball when he played for Harvard, but shouldn't he know there's an "i" in Arnie?)
Anyway, Duncan suggested that schools be banned from the NCAA Tournament if they don't graduate at least 40 percent of their players.
Duncan is just another dreamer dreaming up ways to emphasize the left side of the hyphen in student-athlete.
Eggheads everywhere continue to concoct formulas to determine whether college athletes are being educated. Meanwhile, coaches continue to ridicule them.
Like, coaches say, the results are misleading - many players leave early for professional careers - schools are penalized for players who transfer - players are penalized for their predecessors' sins - the dog ate everyone's homework but left the playbook intact -
So graduation rates for black players especially still are unacceptable and, fairly or not, the perception remains that college basketball is no college-level teaching tool.
Then along comes Cornell, the first Ivy League representative in 31 years to advance to the third round of the NCAAs.
Cornell beat Temple by 13 points and Wisconsin by 18 over the weekend. Foote will have to calculate for me how many points that means the Big Red will beat Kentucky by.
If Cornell actually wins that game - crazy, sure, but so was the concept of Ivy Leaguers trouncing teams from the Big Ten and Atlantic-10.
My goodness, if Cornell does beat Kentucky of the SEC, coaches from the Big East to the Pac-10 will have to rethink their recruiting philosophies.
The next thing you know, big-time programs will start pursuing preps whose SAT scores are higher than their shoe sizes. Maybe they'll steer players toward majors like Molecular Science instead of Barn Dancing. Maybe they'll alter high school transcripts downward so basketball brains qualify to live in athletic dorms with football grunts.
All of a sudden players would be mentoring Illinois' Bruce Weber on zone defenses, teaching Kentucky's John Calipari a course in Basic Ethics and giving tips to Duke's Mike Krzyzewski on the proper pronunciation of his name.
Really, folks, college basketball becomes a whole new ballgame if smarty-pants Cornell keeps winning this week.
Some say Adolph Rupp invited Cornell, knowing that if Kentucky got beaten by a team with blacks, maybe he could go get some of his own. Or it could be revisionist history.
But wasn't our last football game against Michigan a Cornell win, too?
Quote from: billhowardBut wasn't our last football game against Michigan a Cornell win, too?
But then so are Toledo's and Appalachian State's.
Quote from: billhowardSome say Adolph Rupp invited Cornell, knowing that if Kentucky got beaten by a team with blacks, maybe he could go get some of his own. Or it could be revisionist history.
That is insane revisionist history. Cornell came to Kentucky the year AFTER getting beaten by Texas Western (now UTEP), the first NCAA champ with an all black starting five, in the NCAA final. I've never heard that Rupp was a progressive victim of a retrograde era.
Quote from: ugarteQuote from: billhowardSome say Adolph Rupp invited Cornell, knowing that if Kentucky got beaten by a team with blacks, maybe he could go get some of his own. Or it could be revisionist history.
That is insane revisionist history. Cornell came to Kentucky the year AFTER getting beaten by Texas Western (now UTEP), the first NCAA champ with an all black starting five, in the NCAA final. I've never heard that Rupp was a progressive victim of a retrograde era.
First-hand insights into this topic in today's New York Post from the 1966 game's star: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/former_player_is_living_proof_cornell_D0IydtsYcI5baQPEDwOnOK