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Title: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
First two Cornell shots right into Ghitelmann's stick.  3-0 Virginia early.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 12:19:10 PM
Langton makes it 3-1; Lang keeps losing the ball at the end of Cornell clears
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 12:29:20 PM
4-1 Virginia after one.  Cornell hurt by shaky shot selection and turnovers.

Now 5-1

Three forced Pannell passes lead to turnovers

6-1 Shamel on target today, unlike at Foxboro; Cornell offense out of synch; Pannell trying to force things; two close chances missed...Pannell off cross-bar and Ritchie saved by Ghitelmann;  Virginia moving ball on offense much better than in Foxboro, and Cornell is too aggressive with slides, giving UVa space on the off-side.

Another blocked Pannell pass gives UVa the ball with less than a minute in the half; Cornell can't get the ball into the cease area; not only have there been no assisted goals, I don't recall even one assisted shot on goal

Two unsettled situation goals sandwiched around a Pannell wraparound make it 8-2

10-2; just not competitive today
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: billhoward on March 13, 2010, 01:11:01 PM
Seeing Virginia's strength and our early season issues makes the NCAA loss to Syracuse all the more painful because we realize the chances won't come every year.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:16:56 PM
10-2 UVA.  We're playing gamely, but not in their class this year.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:21:09 PM
Hurley stopped at doorstep; Ghittelman playing well for UVA
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:23:08 PM
10-2 UVA at end of 3; we look rather impotent on offense.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: billhoward on March 13, 2010, 01:32:52 PM
Small rays of light: Shut down Virginia's EMO. Dunb Cornell mistakes on offense that seem correctable.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 13, 2010, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: billhowardSeeing Virginia's strength and our early season issues makes the NCAA loss to Syracuse all the more painful because we realize the chances won't come every year.

I was just thinking the same thing. (As if that game wasn't painful enough.)
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 01:37:23 PM
Team gets a week to regroup before meeting Yale.  Then Stony Brook, Penn, and Dartmouth before Harvard comes to town.  Still time to get the offense in synch.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:41:31 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioTeam gets a week to regroup before meeting Yale.  Then Stony Brook, Penn, and Dartmouth before Harvard comes to town.  Still time to get the offense in synch.

I think the D and Fiore have been pretty good. We're just not getting any breathing space in the offensive end.  UVA's D has been really physical -- far superior to their sieve-like effort last season.

While hard to take this type of loss, we still have a lot of season left to improve.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
28-20 Virginia in ground balls...that didn't help

Just couldn't get good looks; too many poorly-chosen shots leading to easy saves and the ball going the other way
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 01:45:36 PM
Quote from: scoop85I think the D and Fiore have been pretty good. We're just not getting any breathing space in the offensive end.  UVA's D has been really physical -- far superior to their sieve-like effort last season.

While hard to take this type of loss, we still have a lot of season left to improve.
I agree.  D chased too much in the first period giving open looks--and then got us in a deep hole--but since then has done OK given how poorly we've controlled the ball on O and the number of transition opportunities given to Virginia.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:49:12 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: scoop85I think the D and Fiore have been pretty good. We're just not getting any breathing space in the offensive end.  UVA's D has been really physical -- far superior to their sieve-like effort last season.

While hard to take this type of loss, we still have a lot of season left to improve.
I agree.  D chased too much in the first period giving open looks--and then got us in a deep hole--but since then has done OK given how poorly we've controlled the ball on O and the number of transition opportunities given to Virginia.

12-4 final.  I didn't see the first quarter, so I'm glad we at least improved defensively as the game progressed.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: TimV on March 13, 2010, 01:52:05 PM
Wrong, Barry.  Virginia did NOT avenge last year's loss.  We ENDED THEIR FREAKIN SEASON!!! In front of a crowd of 45,000 people. On national TV.

Unlike the 09 Virginia team, we WILL play again next week.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: scoop85 on March 13, 2010, 01:58:15 PM
Quote from: TimVWrong, Jason.  Virginia did NOT avenge last year's loss.  We ENDED THEIR FREAKIN SEASON!!! In front of a crowd of 45,000 people, On national TV.

WE will play again next week.

True -- different lineups, different circumstances (and I'm sure you meant Barry)
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: TimV on March 13, 2010, 03:11:38 PM
Right. Barry Leonard.  He just pissed me off cuz he said it 3 times. UVa owned us today, no question, But I'll give up a subsequent game every year in exchange for a win in an elimination tournament.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: billhoward on March 13, 2010, 04:00:23 PM
The victor not the vanquished decides if it's sweet revenge. We're splitting hairs if we say, "Sorry, Cavaliers, it can't be revenge unless it's the NCAA touranment, semifinal round or later, otherwise it doesn't count 'cuz we just made ourselves invisible." Virginia reloaded. Virginia kicked our butts today. What else do they have to do, ravage the freshmen women and set fire to the Big Red Barn? Barry Leonard is entitled to his opinion, especially since he generally is sparing with cliches.

Let's channel this into positive feelings about the continued inadequacies of the Harvard hockey team. Teams, actually. Thank you, Harvard women, for being such good hosts. It's still a pretty good weekend.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: TimV on March 13, 2010, 04:26:57 PM
Quote from: billhowardThe victor not the vanquished decides if it's sweet revenge.

At least some of "the victors" get my point. (http://www.thesabre.com/message_board/lacrosse/2010/March/13/45627.php)   Even if you disagree.


Quote from: billhowardWe're splitting hairs if we say, "Sorry, Cavaliers, it can't be revenge unless it's the NCAA touranment, semifinal round or later, otherwise it doesn't count 'cuz we just made ourselves invisible."

Not hair splitting at all.  One game puts you in position to win it all and sends the other home till February.  The other lets you go into your next game with a clearer idea of what's necessary to be successful again.


Quote from: billhowardBarry Leonard is entitled to his opinion,

Never said he isn't.  Just expressing mine.  As you expressed yours, only you want to change the subject:


Quote from: billhowardLet's channel this into positive feelings about the continued inadequacies of the Harvard hockey team.


No, Bill.  11,194 views of 447 posts should have adequately covered that.  This a lacrosse thread.::deadhorse::
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: YankeeLobo on March 13, 2010, 04:42:18 PM
Ouch!  UVA smoked us on our home field?  This lax team shouldn't be ranked top 10.  They don't have any good standout players, especially on offense.  Princeton will crush us this year in the league.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: YankeeLobo on March 13, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: TimVWrong, Barry.  Virginia did NOT avenge last year's loss.  We ENDED THEIR FREAKIN SEASON!!! In front of a crowd of 45,000 people. On national TV.

Unlike the 09 Virginia team, we WILL play again next week.

Yeah, except UVA will be back in the final 4 this year whereas Cornell can hope to get there once every 6-8 years
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 04:50:32 PM
Looks like we've got a first-class whiner here.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Jordan 04 on March 13, 2010, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioLooks like we've got a first-class whiner here.

An equal-opportunity Cornell basher; does not limit himself to basketball.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: YankeeLobo on March 13, 2010, 05:03:05 PM
Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: Al DeFlorioLooks like we've got a first-class whiner here.

An equal-opportunity Cornell basher; does not limit himself to basketball.

You got it.  Just acknowleding an embarassing performance by the lax team on their home field  :)

BTW Jordan, I haven't bashed Cornell since they lost to Penn, which probably cost them 3 seed slots and a tournament win.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: RichH on March 13, 2010, 05:13:39 PM
Quote from: YankeeLoboOuch!  UVA smoked us on our home field?  This lax team shouldn't be ranked top 10.  They don't have any good standout players, especially on offense.  Princeton will crush us this year in the league.

You sir, are being an asshole.  Hurley and Pannell are both very good standout players that any team in the nation would be happy to have. Your first 3 sentences may be true, but what you said afterwards are just proof that you're nothing but a troll here.  Go away if that's your stance.  Dick.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 13, 2010, 05:41:15 PM
Lobo, did you watch the game? or are you just hear to bash them after reading a boxscore

Complain all you want Lobo because everytime you go cray whining good things happen, i.e. Cornell wins out after losing to Penn. Bottom line is if Cornell didnt lose to Penn they might not be in the tournament right now, best thing that could have happened to this team. They would have brought that complacent play to Princeton and probably would have lost.

Also speaking of choking what happened to your Lobos the other night, losing to SDSU and barely squeaking by Air Force the night before. I would say they also dont deserve to be ranked top 10
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Swampy on March 13, 2010, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: billhowardThe victor not the vanquished decides if it's sweet revenge. We're splitting hairs if we say, "Sorry, Cavaliers, it can't be revenge unless it's the NCAA touranment, semifinal round or later, otherwise it doesn't count 'cuz we just made ourselves invisible." Virginia reloaded. Virginia kicked our butts today. What else do they have to do, ravage the freshmen women and set fire to the Big Red Barn? Barry Leonard is entitled to his opinion, especially since he generally is sparing with cliches.

Let's channel this into positive feelings about the continued inadequacies of the Harvard hockey team. Teams, actually. Thank you, Harvard women, for being such good hosts. It's still a pretty good weekend.

I have to agree with Bill here. Last spring, before anyone knew how good Syracuse's basketball team would be with transfer Wes Johnson, I was already looking forward to revenge at the hands of Wittman, Dale, Foote, and company. Alas, it was not to be, but there's more pain in being upset and blowing a lead with a minute to play.::cry::
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: YankeeLobo on March 13, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfanLobo, did you watch the game? or are you just hear to bash them after reading a boxscore

Complain all you want Lobo because everytime you go cray whining good things happen, i.e. Cornell wins out after losing to Penn. Bottom line is if Cornell didnt lose to Penn they might not be in the tournament right now, best thing that could have happened to this team. They would have brought that complacent play to Princeton and probably would have lost.

Also speaking of choking what happened to your Lobos the other night, losing to SDSU and barely squeaking by Air Force the night before. I would say they also dont deserve to be ranked top 10

I'm fine with the Lobos loss to SDSU.  It doesn't hurt their seeding, they were probably a 3 seed no matter what happened in their tournament.  They were down 11-0 to begin the game, only to take a 1 pt lead at halftime, and then down by 7 with 4 minutes left, and got a shot to win the game at the buzzer, against a team with an RPI of 25.  That's what you call a "good" loss.

I agree with you, they don't deserve to be ranked in the top 10, but their RPI is still above 10.  Only the tournament will tell how good they really are.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: mnagowski on March 14, 2010, 01:01:38 AM
Quote from: Jordan 04
Quote from: Al DeFlorioLooks like we've got a first-class whiner here.

An equal-opportunity Cornell basher; does not limit himself to basketball.

I concur. Lobo is reaching troll status. Best not to feed him.
Title: Re: Cornell-Virginia lax
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 14, 2010, 12:08:43 PM
Hofstra 14, Hopkins 6 last night; nice