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Title: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 10, 2010, 01:08:56 PM
Figured I'd start a new thread with info up to NCAA time.

According to the IJ (http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20100310/SPORTS/3100330/1128/Sports/Cornell-senior-Ryan-Wittman-named-Ivy-League-Men-s-Basketball-Player-of-the-Year-today), Whittman is Ivy POTY, Foote is D POTY, and Dale is on first team.

Poll added.
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 10, 2010, 01:26:46 PM
More here on All-Ivy b-ball: http://ivybbn.com/?cat=5
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: YankeeLobo on March 10, 2010, 04:15:26 PM
Guesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 10, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
Wow Wittman is only 26 points away from 2000 career points here
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: dbilmes on March 10, 2010, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 10, 2010, 05:48:39 PM
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
OK,for the fun of it I'll add a poll. Done.
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: ugarte on March 10, 2010, 09:13:25 PM
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 10, 2010, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
???????????
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: Rita on March 10, 2010, 10:11:56 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
???????????

Our wins are relatively mediocre compared to theirs?
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: elliotb on March 11, 2010, 01:01:54 AM
How accurate has Lunardi been in years past?

--Robin
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: ugarte on March 11, 2010, 08:36:58 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
???????????
Old Dominion, Siena and Wichita State - at least - are better than any team that Cornell beat this year. In a way, UNI has the same problem that Cornell does - the BCS teams that it played and beat (Iowa and ISU, for example) are bad teams from good conferences; they also have a couple of terrible losses. But their conference is also better than the Ivy League, so their overall profile is considerably better.

The most impressive features of Cornell's record are Win% and "good losses" and that usually doesn't lead to a 10 seed.
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 11, 2010, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
???????????
Old Dominion, Siena and Wichita State - at least - are better than any team that Cornell beat this year. In a way, UNI has the same problem that Cornell does - the BCS teams that it played and beat (Iowa and ISU, for example) are bad teams from good conferences; they also have a couple of terrible losses. But their conference is also better than the Ivy League, so their overall profile is considerably better.

The most impressive features of Cornell's record are Win% and "good losses" and that usually doesn't lead to a 10 seed.
I was referring to the unusual English "much better good wins", not to the specifics.:-O
Title: Re: Basketball
Post by: ugarte on March 11, 2010, 10:46:46 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: YankeeLoboGuesses at what seed we'll get?  I've heard everything from a 10 to a 13.
John Feinstein (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124445841) on NPR Monday morning said we could be as high as a 9 seed!
John Fienstein is insane. There haven't been enough tourney upsets in one-bid conferences for that to happen. I expect a 12 and am really hoping for a 10. The Penn loss was sooooooooooo bad that it probably eliminated any chance of a 10. I expect Northern Iowa to get an 8 or 9 and they have much better good wins than Cornell does.
???????????
Old Dominion, Siena and Wichita State - at least - are better than any team that Cornell beat this year. In a way, UNI has the same problem that Cornell does - the BCS teams that it played and beat (Iowa and ISU, for example) are bad teams from good conferences; they also have a couple of terrible losses. But their conference is also better than the Ivy League, so their overall profile is considerably better.

The most impressive features of Cornell's record are Win% and "good losses" and that usually doesn't lead to a 10 seed.
I was referring to the unusual English "much better good wins", not to the specifics.:-O
Noted. I should have added scare quotes to "good wins".
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 11, 2010, 10:55:38 AM
Feinstein is almost more of a fan. I believe he covers the Patriot league and roots for the mid majors. He puts a mid major team in his #25 spot every week in the AP poll not because he thinks they should be in the top 25 but because they had a good week and deserved some recognition.
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 11, 2010, 12:26:40 PM
Wittman's in pretty good company here: http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20100310/SPORTS03/3100363/1128

One would hope Donahue received some consideration for COY.
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 11, 2010, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioWittman's in pretty good company here: http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20100310/SPORTS03/3100363/1128

One would hope Donahue received some consideration for COY.

Donahue has gotten some consideration for COY
http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2010/03/donahue-finalist-for-pair-of-national.html
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 11, 2010, 05:29:28 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfan
Quote from: Al DeFlorioWittman's in pretty good company here: http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20100310/SPORTS03/3100363/1128

One would hope Donahue received some consideration for COY.

Donahue has gotten some consideration for COY
http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2010/03/donahue-finalist-for-pair-of-national.html
Thanks.  Not sure following Calipari is much of an honor.
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: ugarte on March 11, 2010, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNot sure following Calipari is much of an honor.
It usually involves coaching a team with scholarship and postseason restrictions. Almost sounds like the Ivy League. Almost.
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 12, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
Donahue gets NABC District 13 Coach of the Year

http://www.nabc.org/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/D1All-DistrictCoaches
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Trotsky on March 12, 2010, 10:39:31 PM
Quote from: phillysportsfanDonahue gets NABC District 13 Coach of the Year

http://www.nabc.org/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/D1All-DistrictCoaches

District 1 is Siena and District 5 is Syracuse.  What are the boundaries of District 13?  Tompkins County? ;-)
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: phillysportsfan on March 13, 2010, 12:01:50 AM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: phillysportsfanDonahue gets NABC District 13 Coach of the Year

http://www.nabc.org/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/nabc/genrel/auto_pdf/D1All-DistrictCoaches

District 1 is Siena and District 5 is Syracuse.  What are the boundaries of District 13?  Tompkins County? ;-)

Couldnt find anywhere that specified the districts but it might be more about conference than location since from last years all district players, District 13 includes Harvard, American, Dartmouth, Navy, Lehigh, all Ivy and Patriot league schools
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 13, 2010, 09:28:27 AM
Nice piece here on the Big Red: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/361909-cornell-awaits-seeding-why-they-are-the-team-that-no-one-wants-to-play

And a Penn guy's Ivy League blog, with his analysis of Cornell's chances in the Big Dance toward the bottom of the page: http://rushthecourt.net/2010/03/12/checking-in-on%E2%80%A6-the-ivy-league/
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: ebilmes on March 14, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNice piece here on the Big Red: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/361909-cornell-awaits-seeding-why-they-are-the-team-that-no-one-wants-to-play

That was actually written by a high school sophomore.
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 14, 2010, 12:19:53 PM
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNice piece here on the Big Red: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/361909-cornell-awaits-seeding-why-they-are-the-team-that-no-one-wants-to-play

That was actually written by a high school sophomore.
Thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.  The Cornell Sun should recruit him.

Here's another of his: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/362141-anythings-possible-a-look-at-the-top-10-mid-majors-in-college-bb
Title: Re: Basketball-Poll on What Seed Added
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 14, 2010, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: ebilmes
Quote from: Al DeFlorioNice piece here on the Big Red: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/361909-cornell-awaits-seeding-why-they-are-the-team-that-no-one-wants-to-play

That was actually written by a high school sophomore.
Thanks.  I hadn't noticed that.  The Cornell Sun should recruit him.

Here's another of his: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/362141-anythings-possible-a-look-at-the-top-10-mid-majors-in-college-bb
Careful, he lists the Lobos first. We don't want to awaken the you know who.