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Title: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: pfibiger on February 26, 2010, 02:45:03 PM
From the INCH weekly ECAC column:

"ECAC Hockey will soon announce its all-decade team spanning the seasons 1999-2000 through 2008-09. The list of candidates was impressive to peruse and brought back memories of many of the league's greatest players over the last 10 years. A panel of coaches, media and sports information directors voted on the nominees. Look for that to be announced in the near future. And how do you pick just two goalies from a list that includes the likes of Danis, LeNeveu, Kalemba, Dekanich, McKee, Grumet-Morris and Scrivens?"

My attempt at putting together these teams:

F: Lee Stempniak
F: Dominic Moore
F: Tyler Burton
D: Reid Cashman
D: Doug Murray
G: David LeNeveu

F: Matt Moulson
F: Marc Cavosie
F: T.J. Trevelyan
D: Mark McRae
D: Noah Welch
G: Yann Danis

Honorable Mention: Matt Murley, David McKee, Mike Moore, David McIntyre, Chris Higgins, Nick Dodge.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on February 26, 2010, 02:55:19 PM
That's a pretty good team.

Some other guys who come to mind:

Andy McDonald
Jeff Hamilton
David Jones
Lee Jubinville
Sean Backman
Marc Arcobello
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Lowell '99 on February 26, 2010, 06:23:24 PM
Not even an honorable mention for Stephen Baby?
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: WillCMJr on February 27, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
I would at least consider Vesce!  Murray to me should be a lock for 1st team!

I think Lenny is a bad candidate because of the shortness of his career, not his greatness of course.

And I wouldn't vote for McKee.

Scrivens gets my honorable mention.  While not the best, his longevity and statistical consistency over the past 3 years have been awesome.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Josh '99 on February 28, 2010, 04:20:31 AM
Quote from: WillCMJrI would at least consider Vesce!  Murray to me should be a lock for 1st team!

I think Lenny is a bad candidate because of the shortness of his career, not his greatness of course.

And I wouldn't vote for McKee.

Scrivens gets my honorable mention.  While not the best, his longevity and statistical consistency over the past 3 years have been awesome.
Will raises a fair point - as great as Lenny and McKee were, maybe guys who stayed around and played at a high level for four years (Scrivens, Kalemba, Silverthorn, Richards; Mike Walsh omitted intentionally because he sucked).  

I wonder whether they might separately honor/recognize/(whatever the proper word is) the late Nathan Marsters (RPI '04), whose too-soon passing still feels a bit surreal.  Marsters was, at the beginning of the 2003-04 hockey season, the only active goalie to have won a game at Lynah, which I thought was an interesting trivia note at the time.  He also (unbeknownst to many) did the Dryden pose more than once during RPI games at Lynah, which I probably thought was obnoxious at the time but (in hindsight) probably was an homage as much as anything else.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: ugarte on February 28, 2010, 09:34:50 AM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: WillCMJrI think Lenny is a bad candidate because of the shortness of his career, not his greatness of course....
Will raises a fair point - as great as Lenny and McKee were, maybe guys who stayed around and played at a high level for four years (Scrivens, Kalemba, Silverthorn, Richards; Mike Walsh omitted intentionally because he sucked).  ...
I think it would be a shame to eliminate a guy from the all-ECAC team on the grounds that he was too good for the ECAC (or college hockey at all).
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on February 28, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
Quote from: ugarteI think it would be a shame to eliminate a guy from the all-ECAC team on the grounds that he was too good for the ECAC (or college hockey at all).

Question is, is it the best players or the players who made the greatest contribution to their college team?  I tend to agree with you -- hard to not pick Paul Kariya for the 90's all-decade Hockey East team, even if he only played one year.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: French Rage on March 02, 2010, 02:27:10 AM
Just make it the entire 2002-2003 starting lineup.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Give My Regards on March 02, 2010, 09:26:15 AM
Just for the sake of completeness, here are the previous ECAC(H) All-Decade teams.  There doesn't appear to be one for the 1960's, perhaps in part because ECAC Hockey was kind of a loose association of teams until the 1964-65 season.


ECAC All-Decade Team – 1970's

First team:

F Joe Cavanagh, Harvard (1968-71)
F Rick Meagher, Boston University (1973-77)
F Lance Nethery, Cornell (1975-79)
D Bill Blackwood, Clarkson (1974-78)
D Ron Wilson, Providence (1973-77)
G Bruce Bullock, Clarkson (1967-71)

Second team:

F Gordie Clark, New Hampshire (1970-74)
F Mike Eruzione, Boston University (1973-77)
F Joe Mullen, Boston College (1975-79)
F Dave Taylor, Clarkson (1973-77)
D Peter Brown, Boston University (1972-76)
D Vic Stanfield, Boston University (1971-75)
G Jim Craig, Boston University (1975-79)
G Brian Shields, Clarkson (1973-77)


ECAC All-Decade Team – 1980's
(no first- or second-team designations)

F Steve Cruickshank, Clarkson (1978-82)
F Scott Fusco, Harvard (1982-86)
F Pete Lappin, St. Lawrence (1984-88)
F Lane MacDonald, Harvard (1985-89)
F Joe Nieuwendyk, Cornell (1984-87)
F Adam Oates, RPI (1981-85)
D Dave Fretz, Clarkson (1981-85)
D Mark Fusco, Harvard (1979-83)
D Ed Small, Clarkson (1977-81)
D Randy Velischek, Providence (1979-83)
G Cleon Daskalakis, Boston University (1980-84)
G Don Sylvestri, Clarkson (1981-85)


ECAC All-Decade Team – 1990's

First team:

F Joe Juneau, RPI (1987-91)
F Martin St. Louis, Vermont (1993-97)
F Todd White, Clarkson (1993-97)
D Ray Giroux, Yale (1994-98)
D Brian Mueller, Clarkson (1991-95)
G Tim Thomas, Vermont (1993-97)

Second team:

F Peter Ciavaglia, Harvard (1987-91)
F Ted Drury, Harvard (1989-93)
F Mike Harder, Colgate (1993-97)
F Eric Perrin, Vermont (1993-97)
D Dan Laperriere, St. Lawrence (1988-92)
D Sean McCann, Harvard (1990-94)
G Trevor Koenig, Union (1994-98)
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: mikek on March 02, 2010, 03:17:25 PM
Player breakdown by team:

Clarkson - 10
Sucks - 7
BU - 6
Vermont - 3
Cornell - 2
SLU - 2
RPI - 2
Providence - 2
Yale - 1
Union - 1
Colgate - 1
BC - 1
UNH - 1

Hopefully we'll be able to move up this list after this past decade is announced
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on March 02, 2010, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: mikekHopefully we'll be able to move up this list after this past decade is announced

Considering Cornell's W-L dominance of the decade, the tabulation of ECAC First Team (http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_History/all_ECAC_Teams.htm) by team for the years 2000-09 is pretty surprising:

11 St. Lawrence
8 Clarkson
7 Cornell
7 Dartmouth
6 Colgate
5 Harvard
4 RPI
4 Princeton
3 Yale
2 Quinnipiac
1 Brown
1 Union
1 Vermont
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Al DeFlorio on March 02, 2010, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: mikekPlayer breakdown by team:

Clarkson - 10
Sucks - 7
BU - 6
Vermont - 3
Cornell - 2
SLU - 2
RPI - 2
Providence - 2
Yale - 1
Union - 1
Colgate - 1
BC - 1
UNH - 1

Hopefully we'll be able to move up this list after this past decade is announced
Makes you wonder how Cornell can have twice as many Whitelaws as Clarkson since 1970.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: French Rage on March 02, 2010, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: mikekPlayer breakdown by team:

Clarkson - 10
Sucks - 7
BU - 6
Vermont - 3
Cornell - 2
SLU - 2
RPI - 2
Providence - 2
Yale - 1
Union - 1
Colgate - 1
BC - 1
UNH - 1

Hopefully we'll be able to move up this list after this past decade is announced
Makes you wonder how Cornell can have twice as many Whitelaws as Clarkson since 1970.

Darnedest thing about team sports.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: KeithK on March 02, 2010, 04:13:58 PM
Quote from: French Rage
Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: mikekPlayer breakdown by team:

Clarkson - 10
Sucks - 7
BU - 6
Vermont - 3
Cornell - 2
SLU - 2
RPI - 2
Providence - 2
Yale - 1
Union - 1
Colgate - 1
BC - 1
UNH - 1

Hopefully we'll be able to move up this list after this past decade is announced
Makes you wonder how Cornell can have twice as many Whitelaws as Clarkson since 1970.

Darnedest thing about team sports.
It's the system.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Tom Tone on March 02, 2010, 07:00:32 PM
From http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/3/2/MICE_0302101658.aspx

All-ECAC Hockey Teams
First Team
F - Chase Polacek, Rensselaer
F - Broc Little, Yale
F - Sean Backman, Yale
D - Mike Schreiber, Union
D - Brendon Nash, Cornell
G - Ben Scrivens, Cornell

Second Team
F - Mario Valery-Trabucco, Union
F - David McIntyre, Colgate
F - Colin Greening, Cornell
D - Tom Dignard, Yale
D - Taylor Fedun, Princeton
G - Allen York, Rensselaer

Third-Team
F - Riley Nash, Cornell
F - Aaron Volpatti, Brown
F - Travis Vermeulen, St. Lawrence
D - Derek Keller, St. Lawrence
D - Evan Stephens, Dartmouth
G - Keith Kinkaid, Union

All-Newcomer Team
F - Jerry D'Amigo, Rensselaer
F - Brandon Pirri, Rensselaer
F - Louis Leblanc, Harvard
D - George Hughes, St. Lawrence
D - Nick D'Agostino, Cornell
G - Keith Kinkaid, Union
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Josh '99 on March 03, 2010, 09:17:51 AM
Quote from: Tom ToneFrom http://cornellbigred.com/news/2010/3/2/MICE_0302101658.aspx

All-ECAC Hockey Teams
First Team
F - Chase Polacek, Rensselaer
F - Broc Little, Yale
F - Sean Backman, Yale
D - Mike Schreiber, Union
D - Brendon Nash, Cornell
G - Ben Scrivens, Cornell

Second Team
F - Mario Valery-Trabucco, Union
F - David McIntyre, Colgate
F - Colin Greening, Cornell
D - Tom Dignard, Yale
D - Taylor Fedun, Princeton
G - Allen York, Rensselaer

Third-Team
F - Riley Nash, Cornell
F - Aaron Volpatti, Brown
F - Travis Vermeulen, St. Lawrence
D - Derek Keller, St. Lawrence
D - Evan Stephens, Dartmouth
G - Keith Kinkaid, Union

All-Newcomer Team
F - Jerry D'Amigo, Rensselaer
F - Brandon Pirri, Rensselaer
F - Louis Leblanc, Harvard
D - George Hughes, St. Lawrence
D - Nick D'Agostino, Cornell
G - Keith Kinkaid, Union
NOW can we stop asking why Schafer keeps sending Brendon Nash out in important situations?

It would've been nice to see some recognition for the fine season Gallagher (fourth in conference scoring) has had.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on March 03, 2010, 09:59:39 AM
No ROTY, POTY or COTY yet it seems.

I thought they waited until Albany week to announce the teams last year.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on March 03, 2010, 10:05:19 AM
The teams by class (italic are Seniors, bold are returning.  Maybe):

All-ECAC Hockey Teams
First Team
JR F - Chase Polacek, RPI
JR F - Broc Little, Yale

SR F - Sean Backman, Yale
SR D - Mike Schreiber, Union
SR D - Brendon Nash, Cornell
SR G - Ben Scrivens, Cornell


Second Team
SR F - Mario Valery-Trabucco, Union
SR F - David McIntyre, Colgate
SR F - Colin Greening, Cornell
SR D - Tom Dignard, Yale

JR D - Taylor Fedun, Princeton
SO G - Allen York, RPI


Third-Team
JR F - Riley Nash, Cornell
SR F - Aaron Volpatti, Brown
SR F - Travis Vermeulen, St. Lawrence
SR D - Derek Keller, St. Lawrence

JR D - Evan Stephens, Dartmouth
FR G - Keith Kinkaid, Union
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 03, 2010, 11:54:36 AM
Thank God we're rid of Backman.  It seems like he's been killing us forever.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 03, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Thank God we're rid of Backman.  It seems like he's been killing us forever.
Are we rid of him yet? I'd still like another chance, not likely we'd meet in the consy.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Trotsky on March 03, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Thank God we're rid of Backman.  It seems like he's been killing us forever.
Are we rid of him yet? I'd still like another chance, not likely we'd meet in the consy.

I'd like two more chances.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Jeff Hopkins '82 on March 03, 2010, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: Jeff Hopkins '82Thank God we're rid of Backman.  It seems like he's been killing us forever.
Are we rid of him yet? I'd still like another chance, not likely we'd meet in the consy.

I'd like two more chances.

OK, I can live with that.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: adamw on March 05, 2010, 12:42:45 PM
For laughs - here's my ballot ... if you care .... had to submit this a while ago, but just got around to blogging it...

http://blog.collegehockeynews.com/?p=380
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: WillCMJr on March 05, 2010, 06:05:27 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: WillCMJrI would at least consider Vesce!  Murray to me should be a lock for 1st team!

I think Lenny is a bad candidate because of the shortness of his career, not his greatness of course.

And I wouldn't vote for McKee.

Scrivens gets my honorable mention.  While not the best, his longevity and statistical consistency over the past 3 years have been awesome.
Will raises a fair point - as great as Lenny and McKee were, maybe guys who stayed around and played at a high level for four years (Scrivens, Kalemba, Silverthorn, Richards; Mike Walsh omitted intentionally because he sucked).  

I wonder whether they might separately honor/recognize/(whatever the proper word is) the late Nathan Marsters (RPI '04), whose too-soon passing still feels a bit surreal.  Marsters was, at the beginning of the 2003-04 hockey season, the only active goalie to have won a game at Lynah, which I thought was an interesting trivia note at the time.  He also (unbeknownst to many) did the Dryden pose more than once during RPI games at Lynah, which I probably thought was obnoxious at the time but (in hindsight) probably was an homage as much as anything else.

I wouldn't say that McKee was too good to play in the ECAC, he's been a flop as a pro.  And while Lenny is very very good, he certainly has not succeeded in the level expected of someone when they leave early.  IMHO, if you leave early, anything other than NHL is a failure.
Title: Re: ECAC All-Decade Team?
Post by: Jim Hyla on March 05, 2010, 08:06:30 PM
Quote from: WillCMJr
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: WillCMJrI would at least consider Vesce!  Murray to me should be a lock for 1st team!

I think Lenny is a bad candidate because of the shortness of his career, not his greatness of course.

And I wouldn't vote for McKee.

Scrivens gets my honorable mention.  While not the best, his longevity and statistical consistency over the past 3 years have been awesome.
Will raises a fair point - as great as Lenny and McKee were, maybe guys who stayed around and played at a high level for four years (Scrivens, Kalemba, Silverthorn, Richards; Mike Walsh omitted intentionally because he sucked).  

I wonder whether they might separately honor/recognize/(whatever the proper word is) the late Nathan Marsters (RPI '04), whose too-soon passing still feels a bit surreal.  Marsters was, at the beginning of the 2003-04 hockey season, the only active goalie to have won a game at Lynah, which I thought was an interesting trivia note at the time.  He also (unbeknownst to many) did the Dryden pose more than once during RPI games at Lynah, which I probably thought was obnoxious at the time but (in hindsight) probably was an homage as much as anything else.

I wouldn't say that McKee was too good to play in the ECAC, he's been a flop as a pro.  And while Lenny is very very good, he certainly has not succeeded in the level expected of someone when they leave early.  IMHO, if you leave early, anything other than NHL is a failure.
Agree.