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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: billhoward on February 22, 2010, 06:32:15 PM

Title: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: billhoward on February 22, 2010, 06:32:15 PM
Does Cornell stand out by doing more of its losing to the league's weakest teams? Look at the top 4 (actually top 5 since it's a tie for fourth) of the 12 teams vs. the lowest 4:

Rank Team   ECAC    Versus bottom 4: Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Clarkson
#1  Yale    14-4-2  0 losses, 0 ties to bottom 4 (vs. sub-.500 teams, only 1 loss, to Harvard)
#2T Union   12-4-4  1 loss, 2 ties to bottom 4
#2T Cornell 13-5-2  2 losses to bottom 4
#4T RPI     10-8-2  3 losses to bottom 4
#4T Colgate 10-8-2  0 losses, 1 tie to bottom 4

I think this could be as telling about Cornell's quirkiness as the Saturday night-fold theory. Only RPI has lost more games (3) than us against the teams in the bottom third of the ECAC.

(Entering final weekend. Assuming I read the WLT grid correctly: http://ecachockey.com/men/2009-10/standings)
Title: Re: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: ugarte on February 22, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: billhowardDoes Cornell stand out by doing more of its losing to the league's weakest teams? Look at the top 4 (actually top 5 since it's a tie for fourth) of the 12 teams vs. the lowest 4:

Rank Team   ECAC    Versus bottom 4: Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Clarkson
#1  Yale    14-4-2  0 losses, 0 ties to bottom 4 (vs. sub-.500 teams, only 1 loss, to Harvard)
#2T Union   12-4-4  1 loss, 2 ties to bottom 4
#2T Cornell 13-5-2  2 losses to bottom 4
#4T RPI     10-8-2  3 losses to bottom 4
#4T Colgate 10-8-2  0 losses, 1 tie to bottom 4

I think this could be as telling about Cornell's quirkiness as the Saturday night-fold theory. Only RPI has lost more games (3) than us against the teams in the bottom third of the ECAC.

(Entering final weekend. Assuming I read the WLT grid correctly: http://ecachockey.com/men/2009-10/standings)
I think you've proven that Yale is the best team in the conference. Which I think everyone believes already.
Title: Re: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: Josh '99 on February 22, 2010, 07:53:38 PM
Quote from: billhowardDoes Cornell stand out by doing more of its losing to the league's weakest teams?
Judging by what you posted, no.
Title: Re: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: RatushnyFan on February 24, 2010, 02:49:29 PM
Doesn't your analysis show that Cornell, Union and RPI have all struggled against some lesser teams?  Only Yale and Colgate stand out.
Title: Re: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: billhoward on February 24, 2010, 03:46:20 PM
Yes, the statistics don't make a strong case for my point. Three of the top five teams have given away too many points to the league's basement. I forgot about the two ties Union has and that means both Cornell and Union have given away 4 points. RPI is lucky it has those 2 wins over Yale to balance out its even worse record.
Title: Re: Cornell's penchant for losing to losers
Post by: ebilmes on February 24, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
Cornell is 2-4-2 against the top 32 teams in D-1 (according to KRACH), and 14-4-1 against the bottom 26 teams in D-1. The 4 includes Quinnipiac, Princeton (x2), and Dartmouth.