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General Category => Hockey => Topic started by: HpyGlmore2-05 on February 07, 2003, 10:38:33 PM

Title: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: HpyGlmore2-05 on February 07, 2003, 10:38:33 PM
1.  What do people think about Dartmouth's goal?  From section B, it looked like 1.  Dartmouth was in the crease.  2. A Darthmouth player's stick was high in the air, and 3. Dartmouth players were obstructing LeNeveu = no goal


2.  What the heck did Doug Murray do to get the 10 min miscondcut?
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Jordan 04 on February 07, 2003, 10:43:42 PM
[q]2. What the heck did Doug Murray do to get the 10 min miscondcut?[/q]

Going a little to far with the argument with Murphy.  Verbal stuff.  Probably said the magic word (more than once...)
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 07, 2003, 10:47:59 PM
No goal, puck was high in the air, puck was in the net... high sticking all the way. Murphy is blind.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: atb9 on February 07, 2003, 10:54:59 PM
From the fifth row of section E...

High stick.  Forget the interference.  It looked like the puck hit the Dartmouth stick head high.  Ridiculous call and we were chanting "still a shutout" the rest of the game.

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on February 07, 2003, 10:55:44 PM
IIRC, Murphy's arm was up before the goal so he was intending to call something on us any way. . .it appeared that he was concentrating on that and not on the crap going on in the crease (high stick, crease, and interference). Whatever, a wins a win and Dan Murphy still sucks!

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Dart~Ben on February 07, 2003, 11:05:32 PM
Wow, and I thought UNH's fans were bitter.

YOU GUYS WON 6 TO FREAKING 1 - you broke an 8 game winless streak. Quit bitching about the damn officials.

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 07, 2003, 11:07:13 PM
When your goalie's going for a team record number of shutouts, you bitch about the one goal... believe me, if it was the second goal, it'd matter a lot less.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: atb9 on February 07, 2003, 11:18:26 PM
Give me a break, Ben.  Lenny is trying to tie and break Ken Dryden's shutout record.  People in Omaha know who Ken Dryden is, right?

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 07, 2003, 11:23:37 PM
Okay boys, no need to get feisty... it's a good night :-D.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Josh '99 on February 08, 2003, 02:22:24 AM
Jordan wrote:
Quote[q]2. What the heck did Doug Murray do to get the 10 min miscondcut?[/q]

Going a little to far with the argument with Murphy.  Verbal stuff.  Probably said the magic word (more than once...)
He also looked like he was about ready to pick Murphy up and break him in half.

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: redice on February 08, 2003, 08:40:02 AM
And how about Trevor Byrne lobbying for a penalty when hats were thrown on the ice for Moulson's hat trick.  At that point in the game, DC was obviously NOT going to win.   Lobbying for a penalty because the home team fans were throwing hats on the ice was pretty poor!   I'm surprised that he wasn't successful.  This officiating crew came on the ice with a bug up their a$$.   Did anyone notice the linesman berating a couple of Dartmouth players for not leaving  the ice fast enough at the conclusion of the pre-game warm-ups?  I think that set the tone for the officials' conduct the whole night.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Chips \'03 on February 08, 2003, 11:36:24 AM
Err.... Actually, that should have been a penalty. The hats, fine, the bag of skittles, not so fine. That's why it took like, ten minutes to clear 'things' off the ice.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: Ben Doyle 03 on February 08, 2003, 11:59:30 AM
Bill, I too noticed the little conference after warm-ups at the door. . .that linesman was none to pleased with the extra 30-45 seconds of ice time the Dartmouth player took.

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 08, 2003, 12:17:05 PM
[Q]Err.... Actually, that should have been a penalty. The hats, fine, the bag of skittles, not so fine. That's why it took like, ten minutes to clear 'things' off the ice.[/Q]
The skittles were stupid, and we got a warning for that. Which is why Dmouth thought they could maybe get away with the hats breaking the warning. Luckily, Murphy's been around long enough to realize it's a time honored hockey tradition and competely legit. But, I dunno, if you're DC, you kinda have to try, especially since the warning was issued.

And hey, at least Murphy was better than the RPI ushers ::rolleyes::
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: ugarte on February 08, 2003, 01:19:02 PM
DeltaOne81 '03 wrote:
QuoteLuckily, Murphy's been around long enough to realize it's a time honored hockey tradition . . .
So, are you saying that you think that maybe there is a hockey referee who "hasn't been around long enough" to know what a hat trick is?

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: jkahn on February 08, 2003, 01:48:31 PM
For what it's worth, the Dartmouth student announcer thought it was definitely a high stick, and after the call on Murray following the goal said "Cornell's really getting shafted here."  But let's not dwell on that; as hockey players say "c'est la vie."  The announcer did an excellent job of play-by-play - I immediately knew who got each goal (even when it was Chris Abbott) and generally the assists as well, as he was clearly prepared and called our players by name as soon as they had the puck.  Another good comment he made was that "the Cornell fans are as annoying as advertised."  Thanks for the well-called game - whoever you are.

Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: DeltaOne81 on February 08, 2003, 02:00:17 PM
[Q] So, are you saying that you think that maybe there is a hockey referee who "hasn't been around long enough" to know what a hat trick is?[/Q]

No, they know what it is,

but I'm saying there are people in positions of power in hockey rinks who maybe haven't been around hockey long enough to understand that it's a time honored tradition, and not something 'those crazy kids do' - witness Age's experience at RPI. I'd like to hope that none of the refs fall into that category, but honestly, if Torguson (sp?) (who looked pretty young to me) or someone ECAC refs gave fans (particularly at Lynah) a warning for it, I wouldn't be terribly shocked.
Title: Re: Murray's Penalty/NO GOAL
Post by: redice on February 08, 2003, 03:27:21 PM
Actually, CU did once receive a penalty for hats being thrown on the ice following a CU hat trick at Lynah.  It was probably 10-15 years ago...it was during a not-very-glorious part of CU Hockey history.   We didn't have many hat  tricks during  that period of time.  And, when it happened, it was a pretty wild celebration (similar to last night's).   The referee was Peter Dawe (or Dawes).   I believe that was his last year of doing Div I game.  Yes, I heard there was a connection between that incident and his departure.  Does anyone else remember this....maybe more specifics?