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Title: RPI Internet Video
Post by: jtwcornell91 on December 04, 2009, 05:16:14 PM
$7 on b2sports: http://www.b2tv.com/partner_members.asp?id=27
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Lauren '06 on December 04, 2009, 05:28:51 PM
Or free here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rpi-tv-channel-6-stream---live-football-and-hockey
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ursusminor on December 04, 2009, 06:17:39 PM
and RPI TV's free version appears to be higher resolution than what B2 puts out on the web after they process it. :-P
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: andyw2100 on December 04, 2009, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: ursusminorand RPI TV's free version appears to be higher resolution than what B2 puts out on the web after they process it. :-P

Is the RPI TV free version you refer to the one that will be available for free via the ustream.tv link above? I don't care all --that-- much about saving $7.00. (Although it would be nice.) I just want the best quality "broadcast" I can get.

Thanks!
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: BCrespi on December 04, 2009, 06:32:12 PM
Quote from: Lauren '06Or free here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rpi-tv-channel-6-stream---live-football-and-hockey

The stream is already running, and the quality looks pretty solid.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: andyw2100 on December 04, 2009, 06:33:15 PM
The stream is playing music now. Will it have one of the radio broadcasts for sound when the game starts?

Thanks!
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Rosey on December 04, 2009, 06:34:03 PM
ustream.tv looks great.  And we get warmups!
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ursusminor on December 04, 2009, 06:34:11 PM
Quote from: andyw2100
Quote from: ursusminorand RPI TV's free version appears to be higher resolution than what B2 puts out on the web after they process it. :-P

Is the RPI TV free version you refer to the one that will be available for free via the ustream.tv link above? I don't care all --that-- much about saving $7.00. (Although it would be nice.) I just want the best quality "broadcast" I can get.

Thanks!
Yes. I do add that I have only watched it once via ustream. Because I paid for B2 for the season prior to the announcement that RPI TV would send their signal directly to the net, I didn't try ustream until RPI's most recent game vs. Union, but the signal was noticeably better.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Trotsky on December 04, 2009, 06:35:25 PM
Dunno, but WRPI is playing godawful Eurotrash right now, so, maybe.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ursusminor on December 04, 2009, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: andyw2100The stream is playing music now. Will it have one of the radio broadcasts for sound when the game starts?

Thanks!
Yes. WRPI's broadcast will go with it. WRPI won't start broadcasting the game until 6:45 or later.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Trotsky on December 04, 2009, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: andyw2100The stream is playing music now. Will it have one of the radio broadcasts for sound when the game starts?

Thanks!
Yes. WRPI's broadcast will go with it. WRPI won't start brodcasting the game until 6:45 or later.
So when did Troy's "underground" start playing crap like the soundtrack from The Matrix?
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: andyw2100 on December 04, 2009, 06:38:04 PM
Thanks. I'm in Ithaca, so I may try to listen to the Cornell radio broadcast if it stays reasonably in sync with the video.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Lauren '06 on December 04, 2009, 06:39:59 PM
That sounds like a pep band, so I'm going to assume game audio is a go.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: andyw2100 on December 04, 2009, 06:41:20 PM
Quote from: Lauren '06That sounds like a pep band, so I'm going to assume game audio is a go.

It was. Gone now, though.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Jacob '06 on December 04, 2009, 06:42:04 PM
And they even manage to get a clock on their broadcast!
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: imafrshmn on December 04, 2009, 06:42:26 PM
Every away game, and especially tonight's, the hosts' webcasts put Redcast to shame.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Trotsky on December 04, 2009, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: Jacob '06And they even manage to get a clock on their broadcast!
Although the lights have just done very dim.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 04, 2009, 06:43:11 PM
RedCast audio, it goes without saying, is not yet up.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Al DeFlorio on December 04, 2009, 06:46:14 PM
RedCast up 15 minutes late and deep in a tunnel.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Rosey on December 04, 2009, 06:48:29 PM
Well, Brendon Nash haters: you now have more ammo.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: imafrshmn on December 04, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: Kyle RoseWell, Brendon Nash haters: you now have more ammo.
Can you explain to those not listening to the Redcast audio?
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: DisplacedCornellian on December 04, 2009, 06:56:46 PM
Most cliched introductions ever.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: imafrshmn on December 04, 2009, 07:02:15 PM
Video off air now.  Ugh.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Lauren '06 on December 04, 2009, 07:03:11 PM
Reload it.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: jeff '84 on December 04, 2009, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Lauren '06Or free here:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/rpi-tv-channel-6-stream---live-football-and-hockey

Thanks!!
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: jtwcornell91 on December 04, 2009, 07:11:41 PM
Quote from: imafrshmnEvery away game, and especially tonight's, the hosts' webcasts put Redcast to shame.

I think we should switch to b2, since we'd have a lot of away games included in the season package.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ScrewBU on December 04, 2009, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: Kyle Roseustream.tv looks great.  And we get warmups!


Yeah but imagine how much money they must be losing.  

Redcast is pay and the powers that be have already made it perfectly clear that they're losing money, we're lucky to have anything at all, and ours is better quality ::screwy::
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Jacob '06 on December 04, 2009, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: ScrewBU
Quote from: Kyle Roseustream.tv looks great.  And we get warmups!


Yeah but imagine how much money they must be losing.  

Redcast is pay and the powers that be have already made it perfectly clear that they're losing money, we're lucky to have anything at all, and ours is better quality ::screwy::

The major difference is that this broadcast is just a port of a TV broadcast. From what I can gather they have a campus TV station that is filming the game and broadcasting. (I assume this means they probably have much nicer cameras and production equipment than some small webcast operation that rolls in just for games) Then they aren't hosting the video at all, they are just streaming through ustream which probably solves a lot of the bandwidth issues. It would be great if we could implement a system like this, but we don't have a campus TV station.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Rita on December 04, 2009, 07:43:22 PM
RPI tv wants our feedback: Sports@rpitv.org.

Maybe we can inquire as to what their rates are and how we can get them to do all the Cornell games?
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ScrewBU on December 04, 2009, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: RitaRPI tv wants our feedback: Sports@rpitv.org.

Maybe we can inquire as to what their rates are and how we can get them to do all the Cornell games?
::cheer::::cheer::::cheer::
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ScrewBU on December 04, 2009, 08:30:36 PM
Quote from: Jacob '06
Quote from: ScrewBU
Quote from: Kyle Roseustream.tv looks great.  And we get warmups!


Yeah but imagine how much money they must be losing.  

Redcast is pay and the powers that be have already made it perfectly clear that they're losing money, we're lucky to have anything at all, and ours is better quality ::screwy::

The major difference is that this broadcast is just a port of a TV broadcast. From what I can gather they have a campus TV station that is filming the game and broadcasting. (I assume this means they probably have much nicer cameras and production equipment than some small webcast operation that rolls in just for games) Then they aren't hosting the video at all, they are just streaming through ustream which probably solves a lot of the bandwidth issues. It would be great if we could implement a system like this, but we don't have a campus TV station.

I'm not trying to argue, honest, but to host on ustream you (in theory) need nothing else than a webcam and a laptop.  As you say yourself, they take care of the bandwidth issues.  So what costs so much, the camera crews?  The cameras?  There are seriously cheap 1080p cameras out there, and I'm sure you could find 2-3 guys that would do it for low/no cost.   Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: releck97 on December 04, 2009, 09:49:01 PM
RPI TV Video and Audio put Time Warner to shame.  I bow to the quality of the video Friday night.  Perhaps CU needs to enlist the services of ICTV to cover their games...They have proven to understand how to produce sports programs...unlike the "pros".
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: upperdeck on December 04, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
I would think if CU offered a group a deal on getting into the game they could get camera coverage for next to nothing and stream it.. the bigger issue might be that while CU is losing money on the package its unclear if that means on every sport.. if hockey-bball-lax left the fold for example they might might really be losing money and they only those games might be shown and not several sports like now..

they really need to create some club to handle it, offer them access to the games when they aren't recording and make the club resonible for producting multiple sports..

if there are 20 in the club and all get into hockey and 2 have to work thegame  thats a pretty good deal for both,
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: RichH on December 05, 2009, 12:37:40 AM
Quote from: ScrewBUI'm not trying to argue, honest, but to host on ustream you (in theory) need nothing else than a webcam and a laptop.  As you say yourself, they take care of the bandwidth issues.  So what costs so much, the camera crews?  The cameras?  There are seriously cheap 1080p cameras out there, and I'm sure you could find 2-3 guys that would do it for low/no cost.   Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

I guess I'll be the one to make a reference to it (and several beers in Albany will do that) but they (we) already had a volunteer setup which was providing it all for no cost to them, but politics forced us into these different directions of corporate dealings and "losing money" as the meme goes.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: Jim Hyla on December 05, 2009, 01:04:36 AM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ScrewBUI'm not trying to argue, honest, but to host on ustream you (in theory) need nothing else than a webcam and a laptop.  As you say yourself, they take care of the bandwidth issues.  So what costs so much, the camera crews?  The cameras?  There are seriously cheap 1080p cameras out there, and I'm sure you could find 2-3 guys that would do it for low/no cost.   Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

I guess I'll be the one to make a reference to it (and several beers in Albany will do that) but they (we) already had a volunteer setup which was providing it all for no cost to them, but politics forced us into these different directions of corporate dealings and "losing money" as the meme goes.
To be fair, we have many more sports we can watch now.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ursusminor on December 05, 2009, 01:25:06 AM
Quote from: releck97RPI TV Video and Audio put Time Warner to shame.  I bow to the quality of the video Friday night.  Perhaps CU needs to enlist the services of ICTV to cover their games...They have proven to understand how to produce sports programs...unlike the "pros".
To the best of my knowledge, RPI TV is a student club. Certainly RHamilton, the member of RPI TV who posts on USCHO, is an undergrad.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: RichH on December 05, 2009, 01:43:37 AM
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ScrewBUI'm not trying to argue, honest, but to host on ustream you (in theory) need nothing else than a webcam and a laptop.  As you say yourself, they take care of the bandwidth issues.  So what costs so much, the camera crews?  The cameras?  There are seriously cheap 1080p cameras out there, and I'm sure you could find 2-3 guys that would do it for low/no cost.   Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

I guess I'll be the one to make a reference to it (and several beers in Albany will do that) but they (we) already had a volunteer setup which was providing it all for no cost to them, but politics forced us into these different directions of corporate dealings and "losing money" as the meme goes.
To be fair, we have many more sports we can watch now.

Very fair, Jim...both to us and to the athletes & families who benefit from the "other sports" coverage.  Also, to be fair, personally, I've rarely had problems with the quality or reliability of the RedCast since ICS was given the duties.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ScrewBU on December 05, 2009, 12:57:17 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: ScrewBUI'm not trying to argue, honest, but to host on ustream you (in theory) need nothing else than a webcam and a laptop.  As you say yourself, they take care of the bandwidth issues.  So what costs so much, the camera crews?  The cameras?  There are seriously cheap 1080p cameras out there, and I'm sure you could find 2-3 guys that would do it for low/no cost.   Maybe I'm missing something, I don't know.

I guess I'll be the one to make a reference to it (and several beers in Albany will do that) but they (we) already had a volunteer setup which was providing it all for no cost to them, but politics forced us into these different directions of corporate dealings and "losing money" as the meme goes.
To be fair, we have many more sports we can watch now.

Very fair, Jim...both to us and to the athletes & families who benefit from the "other sports" coverage.  Also, to be fair, personally, I've rarely had problems with the quality or reliability of the RedCast since ICS was given the duties.

  Well there you go, Redcast does cover lots of other sports, and I'm sure that adds significant overhead.  And it definitely is valuable to the fans and parents.

  I do remember the volunteer setup, I didn't want to say anything for fear of opening old wounds.   But it was extremely well done back then, and when you start to look at what's out there in 2009 in terms of technology....put it this way, I would like to see what the volunteers could come up with and compare that to Redcast.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: ursusminor on December 09, 2009, 12:17:16 PM
I forgot to mention that the game is available online now in high definition http://www.rpitv.org/.
Title: Re: RPI Internet Video
Post by: mnagowski on December 09, 2009, 02:42:32 PM
QuoteI do remember the volunteer setup, I didn't want to say anything for fear of opening old wounds. But it was extremely well done back then, and when you start to look at what's out there in 2009 in terms of technology....put it this way, I would like to see what the volunteers could come up with and compare that to Redcast.

I don't think there is anything stopping a student organization from doing this, much like Slope TV has been streaming the basketball games. It's a simple matter of involvement and inertia, just like the idea of student-organized bus trips to away games.