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Title: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 17, 2009, 06:57:35 PM
This is enough to make one vomit. At any rate:

http://www.nhl.com/league/ext/Central%20Scouting/2010/PrelimRankingsNCAAWatch.pdf
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Josh '99 on November 17, 2009, 07:09:10 PM
Ew.  I'm just going to assume that this is only a partial list.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 17, 2009, 08:48:51 PM
Considering it has A, B, and C players, I'm not so sure. The complete list was just top 30ish, but the bulk of the players on the NCAA watch list weren't on it.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Jim Hyla on November 17, 2009, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: CowbellGuyThis is enough to make one vomit. At any rate:

http://www.nhl.com/league/ext/Central%20Scouting/2010/PrelimRankingsNCAAWatch.pdf
It just shows how bad a coach he is.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: pfibiger on November 17, 2009, 09:17:11 PM
It is probably complete. That said, plenty of kids get drafted who aren't on any watch lists, and lots of players high up on these lists never get drafted. I could see someone taking a flyer on either Esposito (bloodlines, early season play) or Axell (size).

There are also a bunch of draft-eligible players committed to Cornell for next year and beyond. Mathieu Brisson is predicted to be an early pick in 2010 and Brian Ferlin could be drafted pretty high too. Andy Iles has size working against him but he could definitely be drafted as well. Oh, and Gotovets was already drafted in 2009.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: cbuckser on November 17, 2009, 09:25:19 PM
This shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: scoop85 on November 17, 2009, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: cbuckserThis shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.

Ryan Vesce, for one
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: RichH on November 17, 2009, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: cbuckserThis shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.

Ryan Vesce, for one

Martin St. Louis for a more notable example.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: cbuckser on November 17, 2009, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: scoop85
Quote from: cbuckserThis shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.

Ryan Vesce, for one

Martin St. Louis for a more notable example.
Those are the two guys I had most prominently in mind.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: CowbellGuy on November 17, 2009, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: cbuckserThis shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.
My post was vague, but it was more along the lines of, "Look how lame Harvard is despite all their blue chippahs," rather than, "Where are the Cornell players?" I wasn't really expecting to see any.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: cbuckser on November 18, 2009, 02:02:04 AM
Quote from: CowbellGuy
Quote from: cbuckserThis shouldn't be surprising.  Isn't John Esposito the only player on the Cornell roster who will first be draft eligible in 2010?  Undersized playmakers are habitually overlooked by NHL scouts.
My post was vague, but it was more along the lines of, "Look how lame Harvard is despite all their blue chippahs," rather than, "Where are the Cornell players?" I wasn't really expecting to see any.
I know.  I was writing about the list itself, rather than what you had written.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: ugarte on November 18, 2009, 09:27:20 AM
All hail the mighty roll players!
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Trotsky on November 18, 2009, 04:19:01 PM
"Zero NCAA Victories: The Next Generation"
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Josh '99 on November 18, 2009, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Trotsky"Zero NCAA Victories: The Next Generation"
Good title; applies to Clarkson as well.  :-D
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Dpperk29 on November 18, 2009, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Josh '99
Quote from: Trotsky"Zero NCAA Victories: The Next Generation"
Good title; applies to Clarkson as well.  :-D

Yup. And don't worry, it won't be changing this year.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Trotsky on November 19, 2009, 08:07:02 AM
At least Clarkson won recently (http://www.tbrw.info/ecac_History/ecac_NCAA_Records_by_Team.htm):

NCAA records of ECAC* teams, since adoption of regional system in 1992:

7-7 Cornell (I haven't brought myself to adding the last loss)
2-8 Clarkson
1-7 Harvard
1-5 SLU
1-2 Vermont
0-3 Princeton
0-2 Colgate
0-2 RPI
0-2 Yale
0-1 Brown

* As ECAC members.  Quinnipiac went before, UVM has been since.

Current losing streak (last win) -- NOT including consolation games

1 Cornell (2009)
1 Clarkson (2008)
2 Vermont (1997)
2 RPI (1985)
3 SLU (2000)
3 Colgate (1990)
3 Dartmouth (1949)
3 Princeton (none)
3 Yale (none)
4 Brown (1951)
6 Harvard (1994)
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: cth95 on November 19, 2009, 09:10:52 PM
Quote from: Trotsky6 Harvard (1994)

No wins since '94 despite plenty of chances.

I guess that just means Harvard really sucks.
Title: Re: Central Scouting Fall NCAA Watchlist
Post by: Give My Regards on November 20, 2009, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: TrotskyCurrent losing streak (last win) -- NOT including consolation games

1 Cornell (2009)
1 Clarkson (2008)
2 Vermont (1997)
2 RPI (1985)
3 SLU (2000)
3 Colgate (1990)
3 Dartmouth (1949)
3 Princeton (none)
3 Yale (none)
4 Brown (1951)
6 Harvard (1994)

Just for the sake of completeness, Union currently has a losing streak of 1 or a non-winning streak of 6 (thanks to a tie) in the NCAA tournament, dating back to their Division III days.  Their last NCAA tourney non-consolation win was in 1985.